"The Lost" Safe House

[W Blue Sky Lives 0]

After I saw this screen I wondered if that building actually existed in the game as it stands. I flew around Alderney for a while using the screenshot for reference, and found what I was looking for. Some of you might already know about this, but here is some pictures for those who don't.

 

 

As you can see, the door has changed for DLC. This one is definitely not accessible.

 

This is the best replication of the new screenshot that I could get.

If you look at the windows of the new screenshot, you can see that the logo has been moved down on top of the windows.

 

 

 

[BenMc20 0]

Hopefully being on the third island means all 3 are already accessible.

[W Blue Sky Lives 0]

Could be. I'd assume so, since during Niko's story the bridges were opened from East to West.

[Dual Weilder 0]

nice find

[Niko Bellico 0]

Nice find That is the real location

[W Blue Sky Lives 0]

Also notice that there was a camera added above the door, and graffiti added to the wall on the building to the right.

[MC. 137]

Dude, that's awesome. I can't believe I've never seen that before. Excellent find man.

[W Blue Sky Lives 0]

Thanks. I can't believe it either - Ivan's "mini mission" takes place in the alleyway to the right of the building. I have to go study (ugh, finals week), but I'll be back later. If anyone wants to do some exploring themselves, take a gander around the area, particularly on the same block. The whole complex attached to the safe house is abandoned, and there's a few garages. The gang bikes appear a lot in traffic in this area (you can see them in two of my pics), as well as another gang called "The Liberty Wrath" (the guy on the bike with the white helmet and bird wings can be seen in the trailer), but that's a different story. If anyone finds anything related to the safe house, post it here. If you find something significant, post a picture or a snap map and I'll take it for you.

[Niko Bellico 0]

i wonder were the Angels of Death hang out is?

 

[W Blue Sky Lives 0]

I thought of that earlier, and did a small skim over Dukes, but I didn't find anything significant. I know they hang out around that Burger Shot a lot. I'm going to find that gang topic and map out a small area to see if they do have some sort of hide out.

[MC. 137]

i wonder were the Angels of Death hang out is?

YEAH! It's around Algonquin. I have to check it out again and confirm location with pics soon.

[Magic_Al 893]

On the islands locked-or-unlocked issue, there's an interesting wrinkle involving the Jason character: Jason is Anna Faustin's boyfriend/pimp who Niko kills in "No Love Lost". Jason being alive in the new trailer proves TLAD begins before Niko arrives in Liberty City. When Niko kills Jason the bridges are closed because of a terrorism threat. That means Jason and his Lost brothers must have gotten over to Broker/Dukes/Bohan before the Niko storyline started. TLAD's story either concludes entirely before Niko's arrival (a prequel just like past Stories games), or bridges become closed during TLAD after Jason gets across. It could also be that west-to-east traffic is allowed through the barricades, depending on the nature of the terrorism threat. Or, Rockstar might not make the bridge closings consistent between the two stories.

[Darrel 597]

Great find.

[MC. 137]

Here's the Angels Of Death location:

 

 

They also have a bar near their hangout:

 

 

 

Waypoint of the hangout and bar:

 

[Niko Bellico 0]

It could be their hang out...or it could be just a tag to mark their territory.

[W Blue Sky Lives 0]

Oh, nice. I think I've seen that tag before, I just never thought about it. I know I've seen the bar, many times. I'll go check it out. I don't think their main hang out is going to be in Algonguin, though, I'm putting my money on BOABO for that. They are always around that area, and it's clear across the map. I didn't see any tags like the one you saw though, so who knows. Time will tell. For some reason, there is always a crowd of them near the Burger Shot in Beechwood.

[Mafioso86 3]

there's another small Lost Clubhouse in Alderney... either Acter or Berchem.... i'll see if i can find the exact location.

 

Oh by the way... the Liberty Wrath are one of the sports teams... hockey I'm thinking, not a gang.

 

Edit: OK the other Lost Clubhouse is in Acter on the corner of Aspdin Rr and Berner Rd. It just looks like a little dive bar but it has the words THE LOST written in the top rocker style on the side of the building.

 

As far as the Angels of Deaths' hangouts I never saw the bars in Algonquin but I'm gunna go check them out. I always see them around the Burgershot in Beechwood City. There's also some garages and scrapyards that they hang out around sometimes in Beechwood and BOABO where you'll also find Hellfuries parked outside pretty often.

 

Thanks for these pics by the way, they're awesome... good to see some action between the Lost and Angels.

 

Edit #2: OK so I feel dumb.... the bar is the building to the right of the Clubhouse shown above with the satellite dish on the roof... just walk around the corner to were the front door is to see the "Lost" sign.

Edited December 16, 2008 by Mafioso86

[AussieDude 2]

I wonder if the last mission of the TLAD will be "No Love Lost" but from the bikers perspective instead of Niko, which ends in jason being killed but everyone else runs off.

[MrKlorox 1]

Doubtful as you see Johnny well after Faustin is no longer an issue.

 

In the opening to Ray's mission Taking In The Trash features a meth addicted lady member of the Lost.

 

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I'm betting this woman is Leila Sharpe, Johnny's "Old Lady."

 

 

[Mafioso86 3]

Doubtful as you see Johnny well after Faustin is no longer an issue.

 

In the opening to Ray's mission Taking In The Trash features a meth addicted lady member of the Lost.

 

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I'm betting this woman is Leila Sharpe, Johnny's "Old Lady."

she's Ashley Butler... Billy's old lady.

[MrKlorox 1]

Yeah, I came across her database entry a while back before the announcement and made the link correctly then. But upon trying to present it to the forum, I came back across the wrong name and ran with it. Oops. Regardless I hate her. I wanna punch my monitor when I hear "I feel like death" fall out of her mouth.

[Mafioso86 3]

Yeah, I came across her database entry a while back before the announcement and made the link correctly then. But upon trying to present it to the forum, I came back across the wrong name and ran with it. Oops. Regardless I hate her. I wanna punch my monitor when I hear "I feel like death" fall out of her mouth.

heh... well tweekers are damned idiots... can't blame you lol.

[KGBeast 351]

Concerning the bridge closings, if you remember what Roman tells Niko early on, you can cross them, he was just suggesting Niko stayed in Broker since he didn't have a visa. I assume legal citizens are allowed to cross.

[AussieDude 2]

Yeah. And Roman doesnt explains the terrorists, he just says "f*cking Terrorists" Now that means they could have just had a terrorist attack. Or they are expecting one or something

[Mafioso86 3]

One thing that I was thinking about that is pretty cool involving the map is that Niko arrives in Liberty City for the first time at the beginning of GTA IV, just like the player, he does not know the city and must learn it. Johnny on the other hand was born and raised in Alderney, he knows Liberty City well. It can be assumed that like Johnny, the player, having played GTAIV, also knows Liberty City very well.

[Dillinger8 1]

One thing that I was thinking about that is pretty cool involving the map is that Niko arrives in Liberty City for the first time at the beginning of GTA IV, just like the player, he does not know the city and must learn it. Johnny on the other hand was born and raised in Alderney, he knows Liberty City well. It can be assumed that like Johnny, the player, having played GTAIV, also knows Liberty City very well.

That's a great observation. You kind of almost blew my mind. But you're correct, it's probably something that Rockstar had to think of when planning the DLC.

[techliveadmin 0]

Perhaps Johnny and the Lost are responsible for the events leading up to the terrorist attack? Wouldn't that make alot of sense? Think about it, bridges are opened during Johnny's time but closed during Niko's. As one of the other users said, the terrorist attack would have been recent, so putting 2 and 2 together is it plausible that maybe Johnny and the Lost are responsible for the attack?

 

btw I don't believe the DLC is exclusive, almost every single exclusive is a timed exclusive. I wouldn't be surprised if by next year around this time the PlayStation 3 Computer Home Entertainment System sees something, even if it is smaller.

 

EDIT:

 

Since he's dating that guys daughter, could it also be that a bad deal went down between the Lost and the Mafia? or Is that pushing it a little too far?

 

 

Edited December 17, 2008 by techliveadmin

[W Blue Sky Lives 0]

One thing that I was thinking about that is pretty cool involving the map is that Niko arrives in Liberty City for the first time at the beginning of GTA IV, just like the player, he does not know the city and must learn it. Johnny on the other hand was born and raised in Alderney, he knows Liberty City well. It can be assumed that like Johnny, the player, having played GTAIV, also knows Liberty City very well.

Very good point. Interesting how that works out.

 

Thanks for the input guys, and the pictures of the AoD tags. Saturday this week I'm going to be in bed all day since I have surgery friday, so I think I might make a new thread where we can compile everything we find that's related to these two gangs with pictures, including tags, hideouts, and hangouts. If you have done some exploring yourself and have found anything that pertains to the things I just mentioned, send me a snap map and I'll try to get some quality pics.

[mrpain 43]

Found pics of the safe house

 

[SPACEMONKEYS! 0]

Found pics of the safe house

 

 

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