creat3d22 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I skipped most of the thread so my apologies if this was already mentioned... GAME OF THE YEAR! No doubt about it, 9.5/10! This is a game I'll be addicted to for a loooong time! Now, get the f*ck out of here if you don't like it. Shouldn't you be discussing Vice City or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredFredrickson Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I agree, PC games almost always need "some" kind tweaking.... BUT NOT f*ckING BETA TESTING ON AN OFFICIAL RELEASE. This game is just terribly coded and should never have been released like this. Oh really tried fallout 3 on the PC lately, that game still crashes at the drop of a hat, come to think of it I had a fair few crashes with Mercs2 and farcry2 as well (and no I didn't go spamming the forums about the problems). Yet after nearly 58 hours of gaming on the PC version of GTA 4 I have had in total ONE crash. Now I will totally agree that this is not the most efficient port I have ever seen and on a technical level it could be seen as a failure. However many of the problems a lot of people are experiencing are down to THEIR hardware not the game. However it is a hell of a lot easier for them to blame Rockstar than blame themselves. There are quite a few rockstar sympothizers on this board. It's surprising. True, it may not be neccessary for so many people to complain. But when you're sitting at your computer with a brand new $60 game that doesn't run on a perfectly good machine- it's nice to vent. Dear god will you listen to yourself, apparently anyone that enjoys the game and gets a lot of pleasure from the game is now a "Rockstar Sympathiser" tell me are you noting our names in a lil black book. I am not a Rockstar Sympathiser I have been a very out spoken critic of Rockstar's activities in the past and I will do so again if I feel they warrant that criticism. I have noticed an inordinate number of posts from people going "Rockstar suck because I can't play high settings on my 8600gt", for the record High settings is better than the console settings and the 8600gt is WORSE than the gpu in the consoles. So is that Rockstars fault then ? How about all the dozens of posts from people going "this game runs badly on a single core" ? I mean Rockstar specifically state you need a Core2Duo so are Rockstar to blame for that as well ? I could go on and list dozens of other complaints users have had about GTA 4 and they all have ONE thing in common it was THEIR machine and nothing to do with Rockstar. Let us have venting space. If you want to talk about anything else- maybe you should contact rockstar and beg them to fix it for everybody ELSE who IS having problems, instead of sitting here and gloating about how special you are and how you magically got this POS to run at ungodly speeds. Stop telling people to shut up. We're all in pain here. Venting space !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you whiners have practically taken over the forum. The minute anyone tries to say anything remotely positive about the PC version they are lept upon and accused of either "working" for Rockstar or being a "Rockstar Sympathiser". This is a free forum if I want to "vent" my frustration about people "venting" then I will do so. Oh and I don't believe I ever told anyone to "shut up" I am merely expressing my opinion that 80% of the stuff that Rockstar is being blamed for has sod all to do with them and more to do with the user. My point is this- I can get the game to run, but I'm both interested in better performance, and I enjoy identifying with other people on this board that are having trouble- even more so than I am. It helps in a group setting to make us all feel better. There's nothing wrong with enjoying the game, if you get it to work better than us. I'm just saying, maybe you should stop bragging about how well yours works, and stop trying to discount the people who genuinely have problems. I have no doubt, some people can play with no problems, and some people have problems. No reason to have different sides of the issue. Why argue amongst eachother? My hope is that we can ALL play - and get in a deathmatch multiplayer and do what we REALLY want to do, have fun with the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushir Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 GTa is over. EA demanded that R* screwed it because it was too violent to join the roll of "big good games" of EA. hehehehe. "big good games" of EA ... like Dead Space ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Nice try moron i have fallout 3 and farcry 2 and the "tweaking" i had to do to these games to work is a f*cking wet dream compared to GTAIV. Go promote this game to people who don't know what they are talking about and sell them a sh*t salad. Tweaking ? did I say anything about tweaking I am talking about CRASHES that no amount of tweaking fixes. As for promoting GTA 4 I know it's a f*cking shock isn't it I mean I am only on a GTA forums board now aren't I, god forbid should I want to talk about how great GTA 4 is on a GTA forum. I notice how quickly the whiners and complainers fall into name calling too which completely devalues your argument. I am sorry you can't get GTA 4 running on your machine, perhaps you should look into attending some computer classes at your local college to teach the basics of operating a PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engioc Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 If the game was without flaws and worked out of the box... as anyone should expect any game to be... then your argument might hold water. But as it stands it's got more flaws in it than the game itself. If/when rockstar fix the problems and the game can be run on systems within the recommended specs, and the same people are making the same arguments and complaints... then I will gladly stand behind your comments. But as that is not the case, please remove your rose tinted specs and see what's really happening. Guess what my copy of GTA 4 did when I got it ? That's right it worked straight out of the box no faffing about or anything. Sure I had to sign up to the social club etc etc. My point is that this is being blown way out of proportion to what it is, those 19 steps that the TC listed well guess what ten years ago you could have added another 20 steps onto them just to get a game working. This is what PC gaming has ALWAYS been like, I remember buying Mechwarrior 2 after seeing all the fancy screenshots. I got it home installed it and the game looked like a bloody dog on my pc. It was nearly 2 years before I could play it with any decent graphics. I remember having to hop through rings to install games no end of time in the past. In short GTA 4 is not doing ANYTHING different to every other single damn PC game that has ever come out. That is why I say if you can't handle it then buy a console, if you want an absolute guarantee that the game you buy will be 100% working on your machine then buy a console. If you want to be hand held and led every single step of the way then buy a console. The nature of the PC means there is always a chance that the game you buy MAY not work on your machine, this is not unique to Rockstar it is unique to the PC though. There are quite a few rockstar sympothizers on this board. It's surprising. True, it may not be neccessary for so many people to complain. But when you're sitting at your computer with a brand new $60 game that doesn't run on a perfectly good machine- it's nice to vent. The fact is, there's an overwhelming majority of people here complaining that it's not working well, and about 3 people who have it running perfect. Let us have venting space. If you want to talk about anything else- maybe you should contact rockstar and beg them to fix it for everybody ELSE who IS having problems, instead of sitting here and gloating about how special you are and how you magically got this POS to run at ungodly speeds. Stop telling people to shut up. We're all in pain here. The majority....well that's not because most people cant get it working, that's because the majority who can run the game aren't on here, their playing GTA4 and loving it. Some people seem to think these problems are so serious they cannot be fixed or will take a long time to be fixed. The fact the game works for other people to me proves there is nothing too seriously wrong with the underlying game system. If that were the case then it probably wouldn't work of any PC config. For now I totally agree with the fact that PC gaming always carrys the risk that a game you buy wont work out of the box, GTA4 is not the first one and it wont be the last, if in a few months or so people are still experiencing major problems, then sure its time to complain. I just think right now is way too soon to get so worked up about the problems, its 1 week guys, just 1 week. You waited so long for the game to be released on PC, and now your ready to give up after just 1 week, it doesn't make any sense why you cant wait a little longer, get the patches as they come out and then enjoy playing GTA4 like many others are already doing. In the mean time go play something else for a while but don't be so hasty to return GTA4 to the shop just because right now it has a few problems (in the first week). If you do return it to the shop, well that's your choice but I think you'll be missing out on a great game, once its patched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTxC Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 My experience: - bought the game- installed the game - registered over Social Club (had Live ID before) - launched it - played Looks like I'm genetically different? - I got only one crash so far, since a week. It's running alright, no problems with it, I play it like it is meant to be played. Great game. Good luck to the guys having problems with it, hope you get it running like mine is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornkid Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Game works for some, not for others... The people who can't get it to run are Numpty's and should go to pc classes.... Well done Charlie, way to alienate people that can only get 18 FPS on a decent rig, can work a pc, and read min game specs, Which seem to be wrong..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Game works for some, not for others... The people who can't get it to run are Numpty's and should go to pc classes.... Well done Charlie, way to alienate people that can only get 18 FPS on a decent rig, can work a pc, and read min game specs, Which seem to be wrong..... Well maybe I am a bit too sick of the complainers attacking anyone that may even slightly hint they got the game running perfectly fine and they are quite happy with the product. In my view these complainers are the ones ruining this board, they are not interested in a construction solution to anything and just want an opportunity to bitch and bash Rockstar at any chance they get. Most of the complainers are showing an astonishing lack of knowledge about PC gaming, it has always been PROBLEMATIC what is happening with GTA 4 is nothing new. Yet if you believe the whiners this is apparently a whole new experience hell if memory served the first gta 3 was probably just as problematic as this one. That is why I suggested computer classes because they are showing a distinct lack of knowledge with regard to the history of PC gaming. It's simple you want to be breast fed and have everything done for you then buy a damn console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand theft ERROR 4 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) If gta 4 is so perfect as any other game, why are people complaining "only" about gta 4?? So stfu! And your memory dosent serve you, gta 3 didnt have so much problems as gta 4... Edited December 15, 2008 by Grand theft ERROR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornkid Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I agree entirely with you about some of the whiners, they are going about it the wrong way....... The game has great potential, not many games I would play at 18 FPS.... I am a patient sort of bloke, no ranting or raving from here, to busy keeping fingers and legs crossed that a solution can be found... On a seperate note, I find the whiners can be highly entertaining, Just select which ones you take seriously.. Love the site btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSpecht Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 1 Buy it 2 Install it 3 Register online 4 Try to run - get BSOD 5 Try again - get cryptic error message (alpha code, no description) 6 Google message to discover it means the game won't run without XP SP3 (why couldn't the error say that?) 7 Download and install SP3, then reboot It's needed to run the game, your silly fault for not checking box that comes with game ! SP3 is not needed it is just gfwl/microsoft forcing you to upgrade. A simple registry change to tell the computer that is had sp3 is all that is needed Wait, what? How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornkid Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) If gta 4 is so perfect as any other game, why are people complaining "only" about gta 4??So stfu! And your memory dosent serve you, gta 3 didnt have so much problems as gta 4... Hmmm, as an educated guess on a GTA4 forum I would imagine nothing would be gained by slagging off other games.... I am with you that the game has problems, but just wonder if you could put the handbag down, you are not fighting in a queue for your pension dear,, I will save you the aggro and tell myself to STFU, Edited December 15, 2008 by Cornkid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiti Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I am a patient sort of bloke, no ranting or raving from here, to busy keeping fingers and legs crossed that a solution can be found.. Well ,what if the next PATCH doesn't do nothing to improve the game,and the patch after that ,and the one after those...what then dude ? will you still keep your fingers crossed ? i think you will have your eyes crossed from those 18 fps of yours . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null_ Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I can't understand why people don't keep their PC's updated. I had Service Pack 3 since ages, why the f*ck haven't you? Then when you get virus, or your computer messes up you cry like little girls. Jerks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornkid Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I am a patient sort of bloke, no ranting or raving from here, to busy keeping fingers and legs crossed that a solution can be found.. Well ,what if the next PATCH doesn't do nothing to improve the game,and the patch after that ,and the one after those...what then dude ? will you still keep your fingers crossed ? i think you will have your eyes crossed from those 18 fps of yours . I am not sure that a patch will solve it, maybe modders will get there first. You are probably right about FPS sending me cross eyed, LOL I will not stay patient forever, after a month with no answers I shall be sacking game, and Rockstar Toronto, the thing that narks me most is that there is very little word from Rockstar about anything, JEEZ.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornkid Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I can't understand why people don't keep their PC's updated. I had Service Pack 3 since ages, why the f*ck haven't you? Then when you get virus, or your computer messes up you cry like little girls. Jerks. Very Grown Up I think I'll try that serv pack 3 and all my probs will go,, Oh wait had it for ages, Dicksplash..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DML Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I can't understand why people don't keep their PC's updated. I had Service Pack 3 since ages, why the f*ck haven't you? Then when you get virus, or your computer messes up you cry like little girls. Jerks. I was running fine off SP2. I had to install SP3 a week-or-so before getting GTA IV - in preparation for the game. I don't understand why they made a game require it, but it is Rockstar afterall, so I was hardly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creat3d22 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 This thread is going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSearched Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 From users review GTA IV get 1.5 STARS out of 5 at AMAZON.COM and not only. I agree with most review there: http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/product/B00...erBy=addOneStar Actually a user there with name ROCCO say them all, I post here just few wich happen to be my oppinion too: How it should happen. 1 Buy the game 2 Install it 3 Run it 4 Have many hours of fun How GTA4 does it. 1 Buy it 2 Install it 3 Register online 4 Try to run - get BSOD 5 Try again - get cryptic error message (alpha code, no description) 6 Google message to discover it means the game won't run without XP SP3 (why couldn't the error say that?) 7 Download and install SP3, then reboot 8 Run it again 9 Create (unwanted and should be completely optional) logins and gamertags for both Windows Live and RS Social Club - after installing Windows Live software (and an immediate follow-on) update, then reboot again 10 Link the two tags - eventually, when both sites are available and accepting logons 11 Start playing - get woeful performance (OK, my PC isn't a great spec any more but it still ran Crysis perfectly well) 12 Get fatal crash that takes Windows out as well 13 Reboot, then go online to see if there are any tips or tricks to getting this monster to work even a little bit 14 Find, download and install slightly dodgy Nvidia beta driver which has been rushed out just for this game 15 Reboot one more time, then run it again. A marginal improvement but still not playable by any stretch of the imagination 16 Leave it for a day, then come back and try some more tricks 17 Run it, get about 5 minutes into the game (after waiting nearly that long for it to load) then get a different crash, again with a cryptic alpha code 18 Google the code, find out it is possibly caused by either the DRM (SecuRom) or faulty install disc with a corrupted .CAB file somewhere 19 Consider ordering RAM, CPU and GPU upgrades, then reconsider and write this review instead. Finally, unless they get on top of the situation in the next 2 weeks (i.e. before Christmas) I expect this to be the end of the line for the GTA franchise, and possibly Rockstar as well. WELL DONE R* To my dismay, this is the situation to many many new games and mostly those big titles. Least recent game i was perfectly happy with, was Drakensang, which was indeed buy/install/play. Sticking to little Drakensang (if anyone has played it) it practically invites you to play just the moment you start it up. And it takes a direct route no fancies. Leaning over to GTA4, you are still clicking things away. Well really the first thing you see when starting the game isnt the game. Wherein the newspages for the foremost told sidestories for enjoyment ,for the latter it told troubleshooting to anyones dismay. Go figure. I think there are too many decision makers at work, who are not really a gamer. Who of which would (with great excitement) add 10000 trailers even if that meant you cant skip them. Or internet "support" for any single player game out there, not realizing the other company who also does that is google. Or because its hip, try Gamepad support for their kewl Crysis lol. Who player cares if its not for gaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engioc Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Game works for some, not for others... The people who can't get it to run are Numpty's and should go to pc classes.... Well done Charlie, way to alienate people that can only get 18 FPS on a decent rig, can work a pc, and read min game specs, Which seem to be wrong..... Well maybe I am a bit too sick of the complainers attacking anyone that may even slightly hint they got the game running perfectly fine and they are quite happy with the product. In my view these complainers are the ones ruining this board, they are not interested in a construction solution to anything and just want an opportunity to bitch and bash Rockstar at any chance they get. Most of the complainers are showing an astonishing lack of knowledge about PC gaming, it has always been PROBLEMATIC what is happening with GTA 4 is nothing new. Yet if you believe the whiners this is apparently a whole new experience hell if memory served the first gta 3 was probably just as problematic as this one. That is why I suggested computer classes because they are showing a distinct lack of knowledge with regard to the history of PC gaming. It's simple you want to be breast fed and have everything done for you then buy a damn console. Well I'm not sure I will totally agree with these kinds of comments either, sorry about that and not wanting to start a fight here. It really shouldn't be that difficult to get a game to work even on a PC. Install, update any OS components and drivers and it should work fine. None of those steps are very hard and if you cant perform them then yes PC gaming is probably not for you. However I am sure there are some genuine problems with GTA4 on some peoples PC's even the ones who know what their doing. I feel for those who are having problems, they bought a game in good faith and so far its turned out bad for them, nobody likes a game that doesn't work. I'll agree many of the comments being made on these boards show a real lack of understanding of PC gaming and GTA4 is indeed not the first or last game to ship with bugs, its rare to find a game with no bugs at all. Having said that I dont believe its fair to suggest every person experiencing problems doesn't understand how to run/config a PC well enough to play some games. It really shouldn't be that difficult and R* themselves are admitting there are problems by the simple fact patch 1 is already out and you can bet there will be a few more over the next few months. Again not wanting to start an argument but I do see both sides of what is happening here. people need to chillout and stop whining, on both sides because none of it will fix the problem and simply running away or buying a console instead is really necessary, R* have stated they are commited to long term support for GTA4 on PC. Bugs in games are nothing new on PC's but then again to be honest neither are the whiners when it doesn't work for them. I look forward to the day patches resolve these current problems. Be patient like you were before release and dont do anything crazy like taking it back to the shop or buying a console and ditching your PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heckler Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 If the game was without flaws and worked out of the box... as anyone should expect any game to be... then your argument might hold water. But as it stands it's got more flaws in it than the game itself. If/when rockstar fix the problems and the game can be run on systems within the recommended specs, and the same people are making the same arguments and complaints... then I will gladly stand behind your comments. But as that is not the case, please remove your rose tinted specs and see what's really happening. Guess what my copy of GTA 4 did when I got it ? That's right it worked straight out of the box no faffing about or anything. Sure I had to sign up to the social club etc etc. My point is that this is being blown way out of proportion to what it is, those 19 steps that the TC listed well guess what ten years ago you could have added another 20 steps onto them just to get a game working. This is what PC gaming has ALWAYS been like, I remember buying Mechwarrior 2 after seeing all the fancy screenshots. I got it home installed it and the game looked like a bloody dog on my pc. It was nearly 2 years before I could play it with any decent graphics. I remember having to hop through rings to install games no end of time in the past. In short GTA 4 is not doing ANYTHING different to every other single damn PC game that has ever come out. That is why I say if you can't handle it then buy a console, if you want an absolute guarantee that the game you buy will be 100% working on your machine then buy a console. If you want to be hand held and led every single step of the way then buy a console. The nature of the PC means there is always a chance that the game you buy MAY not work on your machine, this is not unique to Rockstar it is unique to the PC though. Mate.. I am not arguing that PC games have come a long way towards being more playable out of the box... I think that the fact we are getting more console games looking into PC gaming is a good thing... we have been conditioned by PC games to expect problems and hassles getting things to work. Hell.. some of even like the challenge... but I have been working in the IT game for so long that I am sick and tired of having to fix other peoples problems and I want it to work first time... like it does on a console. I happy that is what happened for you... I wish I had been so lucky. I remember trying to get bootdisks working on my old 386SX2 with 1mb ram just so I could play the original X-Wing game... Spent hrs tweaking settings ad reading stuff... no internet back then to fall back on. But just because that's what we are used to... doesn't mean we have to just accept it... if console gamers aren't used to it, they're not gonna suddenly accept it on a PC game... and I think that if enough of them start playing PC games and experiencing that crap.. their voices being added to the pot might just help make things better. Getting a game to work on every combination of hardware.. we all know it's not gonna happen... but the true measure of any company is how they react to problems and what they do to resolve them and make sure the same mistakes don't happen again... In this regard, Rockstar have failed miserably and their continued silence on the matter is damaging to their reputation with everyone who does have an issue getting this game to work... 90% of people just want to know exactly what the problem is and that it's being fixed... the other 10% are just w*nkers out to troll bait... Give that 90% the answer and a lot of the complaints will go away... but Rockstar aren't doing that... yet... we live in hope. Sure there have been other games that weren't great, had problems... But I'm not aware of any game that has had this much hype, this much publicity and this many sales... and had so many problems. I think this one might go down as the biggest failure in PC gaming history.. certainly in the last decade. I remember Mechwarrier 2 aswell... didn't have any problems with it I'm trying to remember what my PC specs were at the time... possibly a p200 or p2 350... can't remember the year... and between 98 and 2004 I built a new system every 9-14 months. It's taken me almost 2 weeks to get this game running at an acceptable level... not a good one which it should be considering my specs at the moment... but it's playable and I can overlook the glitching and occasional FPS drops... I'm getting 37-38 in benchmark and an average of around 20-30 when actually playing the game... a little more indoors and a lot less outside when things get bonkers.... which is usually after I start shooting rpgs at the cops from the roof garden of Player X (now mine) apartment. Surprised the hell out of me I missed a chopper and they started rappelling out on to the roof terace to kill me... had to try a little parquet experiment that failed... wish I could have recorded it... an rpg fired too close sent me spinning through the air and down the street for half a mile before touch down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William. Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Funny to see how complainers seem to think about how it's all Rockstar's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzysztof Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 everyone is sooking about all these problems with game. really its not the game its your crappy computers most of the time!! i recently looked on gamespot and they gave it a 9/10 the users gave it a 7.2/10. most people reviewed it and gave it a absolute pointless 1!!! for christ sake!!!!!!!!!! just because of some problems like maybe a lamp post isnt popping up at the right time that could be easily fixed in the future, there pc's not handling it aswell, and they just end up going ahead and thinking about all the crap stuff!!!!!!!!!! these people give GTA a bad name! screw those people!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quemical Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 If you just want to pop in the disc and play, get a console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JORDAN_BENNETT Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 What you guys don't realize is thst rockstar has already sold about US $500 000.00 worth of GTA IV copies. Yes they have made the hugest profit in video game history. So sulk all ya want.......It' far from rockstar's end..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk Russian 9 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Funny to see how complainers seem to think about how it's all Rockstar's fault. Funny to see you thinking it isn't. Not everyone here is a total newbie to PC gaming, people are experiencing real issues, such as horrid FPS, error codes, instability, memory leak, texture loss, etc. Consider for once that maybe R* Toronto messed up. That instead of optimizing the game they tried to optimize the protection. There are so few people online playing IV on PC right now, and that just goes to show you that a small percentage got really lucky and had no problems. Oh and on the installation things . . . Please explain to me why they couldn't leave Securom, R* Social Club, and Games For Windows Live out of the installation. I understand previously that work was done so that the game could run correctly, but this is just for kicks. New GPU drivers? Windows SP3? Was it all really necessary? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggeo Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 1 Buy it 2 Install it 3 Register online 4 Try to run - get BSOD 5 Try again - get cryptic error message (alpha code, no description) 6 Google message to discover it means the game won't run without XP SP3 (why couldn't the error say that?) 7 Download and install SP3, then reboot It's needed to run the game, your silly fault for not checking box that comes with game ! 8 Run it again 9 Create (unwanted and should be completely optional) logins and gamertags for both Windows Live and RS Social Club - after installing Windows Live software (and an immediate follow-on) update, then reboot again 10 Link the two tags - eventually, when both sites are available and accepting logons Oh no, a few minutes work, dam I think it's time slit my wrists !! 19 Consider ordering RAM, CPU and GPU upgrades, then reconsider and write this review instead. Obviously your PC would be not capable of running it if you had to think about all these choices. Good try kid My PC way above recomende specs as you can see here but still can't play. my system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggeo Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Hm I must be a super wonderful intellect because I had no bloody problem getting GTA 4 set up on my PC. Look if you want a system that practically wipes your own arse for you then piss off and buy a damn console. Sorry I am just getting sick and bloody tired of these whiners going "ohhhh it's too hard". I am not just whining, I try to find solutions and as you can see my PC is above average: my system And if you just see the polls arround and the messages from people who really have problems then the're two times more than the people who could play the game in an accepted pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveBossa Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 1 Buy it 2 Install it 3 Register online 4 Try to run - get BSOD 5 Try again - get cryptic error message (alpha code, no description) 6 Google message to discover it means the game won't run without XP SP3 (why couldn't the error say that?) 7 Download and install SP3, then reboot It's needed to run the game, your silly fault for not checking box that comes with game ! SP3 is not needed it is just gfwl/microsoft forcing you to upgrade. A simple registry change to tell the computer that is had sp3 is all that is needed It said it on the box lol, don't be a dumb ass But it was too much of a chore for them to put that in the error message.? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggeo Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Amazing how these angry people keep popping up here and there claiming that they have great frame rates, absolutely no problems, easy install etc etc. Makes you wonder who they might be working for......... nuge nuge, wink wink. Well make me wonder myself. Even I have better graphic card from CharmingCharlie, and he claims that he play the game at reat FPS with no problem and I can't. Well maybe I do something wrong I try again. But instead we see here here angry people who defend R*, whould be better if R* try and help all the people with problems, so they don't think that they just want their money. And most are kids who saved to buy this game, not like me who I can spend little more here and there cause I have my work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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