dnottis Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 (edited) I reinstalled Windows XP SP3 3 times now but cannot get GTA IV to run any longer. AS soon as the RSGC starts I get a BSOD. Works fine in Vista even on a new install there. I hate Vista and the load times are ungodly long in GTA IV (only in Vista), so I want to get XP SP3 working again. It was working but I decided to reformat the other day. Ran the .net 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5 SP1 updates. Updated C++ redist. IE7 is install... WTF gives Rockstar?? It worked fine then I reinstalled Windows and now 3 reinstalls later I still cannot get it to work, just get a BSOD when launching the game or RSGC. Nothing else causes a BSOD, its definitely something to do with either the app or securom. Securom box doesnt even come, it reboots before that. Personally I think it's something with Securom or an app that needs to be install but I've updated and installed all the .net sh*t and c++ redist. Even DX is updated. All the latest drivers installed. Like I said this was working fine before... TIA Edited December 14, 2008 by dnottis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deicida Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 have you tried to google the bsod error? You might be able to narrow it down at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desolator Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I have the similiar problem with SP3. I don't have BSOD but my computer freeze and I must restart it. I edited registry and now I can play GTA on SP2, game works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnottis Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 have you tried to google the bsod error? You might be able to narrow it down at least. Just a general memory dump. On another HD I have Vista installed and it works there still. So it's nothing with the hardware. I just cannot get XP SP3 to work with GTA IV again now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Personally I do not see why you'd prefer (Out Dated) XP over (New) Vista, but anyway. Maybe the Hard Drive is going bad, have you played any other games off XP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSlongsDaddy Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 right click on the gta4 exe run it as an admin, or try running it under windows 2000 compatbility in the properties of the exe on your desktop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnottis Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 (edited) Personally I do not see why you'd prefer (Out Dated) XP over (New) Vista, but anyway. Maybe the Hard Drive is going bad, have you played any other games off XP? HD is about a month old WD640 AAKS, just had Vista on there with everything and it works fine. Its not the drive. Its the game, specifically it something that happens when RSCG is launched. I prefer XP over Vista because of the GTA IV load times in Vista are awful. XP has the game loaded in seconds. Tried compatability mode - still not working. Someone mentioned .net 1.1 might be required. Right now I've installed .net 2.0 and 3.5 SP1, so its a possibility that 1.1 is required too. Edited December 14, 2008 by dnottis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnottis Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 Looks like the issue is the Nvidia drivers. 180.84 are up to a rev 3. Rev 1 work fine. Dammit nvidia dont add to the bugs of GTA IV with crap drivers. UGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holland99999 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Looks like the issue is the Nvidia drivers. 180.84 are up to a rev 3. Rev 1 work fine. Dammit nvidia dont add to the bugs of GTA IV with crap drivers. UGH 180.84 drivers work fine here! GtaIV Grid Crysis Left 4 Dead C&C Red Alert 3 C&C Tiberium Wars Call of Duty World at War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnottis Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 Looks like the issue is the Nvidia drivers. 180.84 are up to a rev 3. Rev 1 work fine. Dammit nvidia dont add to the bugs of GTA IV with crap drivers. UGH 180.84 drivers work fine here! GtaIV Grid Crysis Left 4 Dead C&C Red Alert 3 C&C Tiberium Wars Call of Duty World at War Right, but guru3d.com was hosting a revision 3 driver that I had grabbed. Are those the ones you installed? Cause the ones from Nvidia, nzone and guru3d are each different Looks like the ones from nzone work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakuAnime Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Personally I do not see why you'd prefer (Out Dated) XP over (New) Vista, but anyway. Maybe the Hard Drive is going bad, have you played any other games off XP? Windows Vista is more resource intensive than Windows XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frost420 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 hey guys, just noticed this post here. i just did a format and reinstall of xp sp3 as well, fully updated. anyways here is my story from another thread... http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=ST&...entry1058762792 solution: 180.48 to install the game. or will it bsod/freeze. "hey man i know exactly your problem. i just did this for 6 hours and finally figured what was up. you cannot install the game with the 180.84 drivers. it will freeze up solid every single time it gets to the release date check. even the offline activation. no matter what. believe me. 6 wasted hours of my life to find out video drivers were the cause of that. anyways use 180.48 and install. to uninstall and reinstall without securom messing with you... open regedit.exe in c:\windows\ and go to find. search for rockstar. delete every entry with rockstar in it (assuming you only have 1 rockstar game installed - gta 4). that will allow a reinstall. i had the game working perfect with the 180.84 drivers before my format btw. hope this helps you and others out. oh and about the autostart of rgsc. try booting into safe mode (hit f8 when computer is starting up. hit it alot till the screen shows.) then open regedit from there, delete all rockstar entries, and it should no longer start up. also can remove it too in safe mode i believe." not too sure what you need for vista. this works for xp sp3 bsod problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnottis Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 hey guys, just noticed this post here. i just did a format and reinstall of xp sp3 as well, fully updated. anyways here is my story from another thread... http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=ST&...entry1058762792 solution: 180.48 to install the game. or will it bsod/freeze. "hey man i know exactly your problem. i just did this for 6 hours and finally figured what was up. you cannot install the game with the 180.84 drivers. it will freeze up solid every single time it gets to the release date check. even the offline activation. no matter what. believe me. 6 wasted hours of my life to find out video drivers were the cause of that. anyways use 180.48 and install. to uninstall and reinstall without securom messing with you... open regedit.exe in c:\windows\ and go to find. search for rockstar. delete every entry with rockstar in it (assuming you only have 1 rockstar game installed - gta 4). that will allow a reinstall. i had the game working perfect with the 180.84 drivers before my format btw. hope this helps you and others out. oh and about the autostart of rgsc. try booting into safe mode (hit f8 when computer is starting up. hit it alot till the screen shows.) then open regedit from there, delete all rockstar entries, and it should no longer start up. also can remove it too in safe mode i believe." not too sure what you need for vista. this works for xp sp3 bsod problem. Sweet man thanks!! Cant believe it was the video drivers. My last install I had 180.60, then GTA IV came out, then I went up to the 180.84 - makes sense now though. Vista doesnt have this issue. I clean installed it with 180.84 and had no issues, this is only a Windows XP issue. I just hate Vista and the load times for GTA IV are alot longer. XP FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frost420 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 no prob man, glad it worked =) i just updated drivers to 180.84 again and back to the same freezing/bsod crap =( cant play the game at all or even use my computer. stuck with 180.48. must be some file we are all missing thats causing these errors. anyways, just a heads up. let me know if 180.84 is useable for you when you get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnottis Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 no prob man, glad it worked =) i just updated drivers to 180.84 again and back to the same freezing/bsod crap =( cant play the game at all or even use my computer. stuck with 180.48. must be some file we are all missing thats causing these errors. anyways, just a heads up. let me know if 180.84 is useable for you when you get a chance. Nope 180.84 are still not usable for me even after I activated, etc. 180.60 work perfect now though... oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidx44 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Looks like the issue is the Nvidia drivers. 180.84 are up to a rev 3. Rev 1 work fine. Dammit nvidia dont add to the bugs of GTA IV with crap drivers. UGH those are BETA drivers!!!! i had the same problem went back to 180.48 and everything run flawless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIR_NazcaC2 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 They're beta's but they're the recommended NVIDIA drivers for GTA:IV. I haven't had any issues with them. (http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_gtaiv_downloads.html) The previous drivers I was using (~180.4x) caused BSOD's with IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frost420 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 i did some more testing with the 180.84's after i was up and running finally. the official beta driver from nvidia - 180.84 - would still lock up my system after game was installed. with anything that used directx. so i looked around to find some "tweaked" 180.84 drivers to try and see if they worked. and i found the answer. try looking at http://www.tweakforce.com/ in the news section 2nd or 3rd post down, you will find: Xtreme-G FW 180.84 Drivers. these have been working perfectly for me now, no more crashes and gta runs smooth. also helps with all other directx crashes that i know of. enjoy =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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