I run at 38fps, and you don't!

[abottig]

tverst i agree with you , i see others on this forum with godly specs like myself but have major issues with this game , i got the 180.84 beta drivers that helped a very small amount i get bout 30 to 35 fps but with alot of jittering when i move the cam , not to mention the mem leaks , same preformance no matter how i put the setting, i cant play like this. 1680x1050 i hate this res but im forced to use it , my first thoguth was sound processing but i got a x-fi so down the drain with that.

any ideas wen patch apposed to come out ? thanks for reading

 

 

Qx8400 2333mhz

780inforce 1333fsb

2x2gb OCZ x-treme 1333mhz

EVGA 9800GX2 (2 GPU's)1gig vram

sata2 seagate 500g w/2otherhdds

it's very odd that the game recommends a quad core processor, yet it seems to have trouble actually utilizing it. i've heard of others whose quad-cores arent cutting it in gta4.

 

that sucks.

 

but i have no sympathy for these other morons who think they should be able to run the game just because they have a computer. if you want to play gta4 and you have a sh*t computer, then either upgrade or buy a 360. quit bitchin.

[Sturmk]

I overclocked my C2D 8500 to 4ghz and the game is still running like crap.

 

My Rig:

 

Asus P5Q

C2D [email protected]

4Go DDR2 800

Gigabyte 4870x2

iiyama B2403WS

[abottig]

I overclocked my C2D 8500 to 4ghz and the game is still running like crap.

 

My Rig:

 

Asus P5Q

C2D [email protected]

4Go DDR2 800

Gigabyte 4870x2

iiyama B2403WS

yes, but what kind of graphics card do you have?

[Jodo]

Abottig i agree with you however majority of machines i see on this post are close-asgood-rarely better than mine and we all have these issues no doubt theres fixing in need , but let me confirm your query, i have a wide range of stat displays for both my machines and yes with 180.48 gpu drivers i was getting around 50% total usage on all four cores , after i got beta180.84

it went up to 60-65% usage , currently this game does not come close to usin the true power of quad cores as for dual cores i dont know my dual core machine is a 1066fsb therefore i could care less what score it gets with a e8400 3g.

 

but yep as for all of you who say its a processor inadequent problem , need to rethink that.

[Jodo]

you could have the Qx9770 and still have bad preformance , its about the chipset , if your north bridge processor isnt adequent to deliver the data fast enough your cpu is waiting on that next packet.

[jaboyle]

Before I purchased this game I prepared myself by learning as much as I could about how to overclock my cpu. It was time very well spent! When I first booted the game I was prepared for it to be sh*t, and not run. I was wrong, and right from the start it worked flawlessly.

 

I'm running at:

1600x900(60Hz)

medium textures

highest rendering

33 distance

max distance detail

max traffic density

max shadows

 

On this:

Core 2 Duo e6600 2.4Ghz, overclocked to 3.2Ghz($155 tigerdirect.com)

4gb OCZ 1066mhz RAM(Overkill, but cheap. 800mhz is $45 newegg.com)

BFG 8800GT OC 512mb($172 directron.com, but you can get a 9800gtx for $190 at newegg or a gtx260 for $220 )

 

Fortunately I already had this stuff, and all I needed to do was overclock my processor. Thank God for the Core 2's overclock ability! If you have one of these and you aren't overclocking, then you are wasting your cpu's potential!

Back up your talk with a video and some pictures before posting anything. My specs tower yours easily and I still have problems myself.

 

 

My specs

 

3.6 ghz core 2 quad

2 gigs of ram overclocked to 907mhz

Gx260 core 216 898mb

 

Stats

 

texture high

rednering very high

distance 33

detail 33

traffic density 50

shadows 2

 

 

I average about 41fps on most areas and about 29-33 on high density areas.

 

 

Come back when you have proof sir.

WHERE'S YOUR PROOF ASSHOLE?

yeh where is your proof !!!!

[Kozak]

Why should i risk damaging my hardware and invalidating the warranty just for this game? Every other game released lately works fine.

At last a decent post by our best game Pacman.

[yerkonoku]

I use EVGA Precision to overclock my GTX 260 core 216. Seems to give it a little boost, I don't overclock my quad though.

[MastaMafia]

You dont need to O/C any Quad or heavy Dual Core to run this game good. the largest problem in most systems is your Video Card, Ram and PSU.

[Socratatus]

It is NOT easy to overclock if you are new to it. It`s not even easy if you`re experienced. Do not listen to over confident waffle from kids just showing off!

 

If could easily blow your machine by destroying your CPU (through overheat), etc.

 

First find a good site that knows about overclocking YOUR brand of Motherboard. Learm all about the FSB\MHZ, PSU, cooling flow, etc, etc, don`t just blindly wing it. It takes time and careful constant testing over a few days after each step up in overclocking.

 

Even then you may not even get the extra power you want at stock values, depending on your CPU and motherboard.

 

My PC is overclocked, but it took about 2 weeks of researching my motherboard forums and learning what exactly things like FSB did and Timings before I was ready to push her up.

 

If you`re not sure do not do it.

 

but please, don`t just start messing with your BIOS cos some kid says `I have and you don`t!` best thing to do is ignore him.

[Rcguy150]

If he's referring to his benchmark results, here's mine.

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 53.11

Duration: 37.02 sec

CPU Usage: 77%

System memory usage: 64%

Video memory usage: 98%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1280 x 960 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: Medium

Render Quality: Highest

View Distance: 45

Detail Distance: 45

 

Hardware

Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512

Video Driver version: 180.84

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)

AMD Phenom 9950 Quad-Core Processor

 

 

Note, that's with all my components at stock values.

[IEK]

 

I overclocked my C2D 8500 to 4ghz and the game is still running like crap.

 

My Rig:

 

Asus P5Q

C2D [email protected]

4Go DDR2 800

Gigabyte 4870x2

iiyama B2403WS

yes, but what kind of graphics card do you have?

"Gigabyte 4870x2"

[camdean]

 

It is NOT easy to overclock if you are new to it. It`s not even easy if you`re experienced.  Do not listen to over confident waffle from kids just showing off!

 

If could easily blow your machine by destroying your CPU (through overheat), etc.

 

First find a good site that knows about overclocking YOUR brand of Motherboard. Learm all about the FSB\MHZ, PSU, cooling flow, etc, etc, don`t just blindly wing it. It takes time and careful constant testing over a few days after each step up in overclocking.

 

Even then you may not even get the extra power you want at stock values, depending on your CPU and motherboard.

 

My PC is overclocked, but it took about 2 weeks of researching my motherboard forums and learning what exactly things like FSB did and Timings before I was ready to push her up.

 

If you`re not sure do not do it.

 

but please, don`t just start messing with your BIOS cos some kid says `I have and you don`t!` best thing to do is ignore him.

Pardon ?

 

 

It took me 20 minutes to do it after using overclockers.co.uk's forums as a guide, I asked them first before doing anything, they know their sh*t, trust me, if you go and check their website and forums you might even find my post and similair ones and see for yourself how easy it is.

 

As I have said everytime, use a guide, ask some REAL tech heads for advice on your system, I had decent CPU fan onboard already but hadn't used it yet, I decided to for this game because I knew it was going to be a killer. I followed everything they told me to do, and it took me 20 minutes to have it all set (I made a weird mistake where it didn't save options and was testing it as normal) but apart from that it was easy as pie ..

 

Use a decent guide and a bit of brain and it's real cheap and easy way of getting some more speed, 2 weeks is a joke lol - sorry but it really is !!

 

The longest part for me was waiting on an email from these guys to use their forums, that was a day or two, but the actual process was 20 minutes long. Just google Overclockers.co.uk, this is where I got my fan from, my favourite online shop for parts and the forums are so handy.

 

 

Ask people who know their sh*t, don't listen to people who might not even own a PC

Edited December 9, 2008 by camdean

[ElectricNZ]

It is NOT easy to overclock if you are new to it. It`s not even easy if you`re experienced. Do not listen to over confident waffle from kids just showing off!

 

If could easily blow your machine by destroying your CPU (through overheat), etc.

 

First find a good site that knows about overclocking YOUR brand of Motherboard. Learm all about the FSB\MHZ, PSU, cooling flow, etc, etc, don`t just blindly wing it. It takes time and careful constant testing over a few days after each step up in overclocking.

 

Even then you may not even get the extra power you want at stock values, depending on your CPU and motherboard.

 

My PC is overclocked, but it took about 2 weeks of researching my motherboard forums and learning what exactly things like FSB did and Timings before I was ready to push her up.

 

If you`re not sure do not do it.

 

but please, don`t just start messing with your BIOS cos some kid says `I have and you don`t!` best thing to do is ignore him.

Um... yes it is

 

For E6600 OC'ing, a basic OC includes going into the bios and changing the default FSB from 266 to 333. Which changes the final clock from the stock 2.4ghz to 3ghz...

 

How is that not easy? You can easily do that on a stock cooler.

 

Why do people think it's easy to fry their CPU, I have never known ANYONE out of years spent with overclocking enthusiasts, who has accidentally fried their CPU.

 

Only a person who is new to overclocking would be stupid enough to set their clocks high enough for it to fry, BUT with that said. The only way for people to achieve these clocks is to up the vcore, without upping the vcore the computer just won't boot. It won't fry the cpu cause the cpu doesn't have enough volts to achieve such clock... and since only people who are new to overclocking would do something so moronic, they wouldn't change the vcore anyway. Which basically means any new overclocker whos messing around with FSB will be fine.

[Mr Heckler]

I have that same exact processor. Regardless of anything, you shouldn't have to overclock your cpu to run this game. Overclocking is nice to have and I even have my multiplier one or two settings above default...it's at 2.6, but you do know that overclocking also shortens the processors lifetime and makes your computer unstable even with a good power supply, heatsink, thermal grease and other hardware..

 

Oh and yeah, think of your poor CPU on those hot July days with no AC....I hope you have a good case.

 

I vote Antec 900 for casing

 

I'm sorry, but this is absolute nonsense.

 

 

I have been overclocking systems for years... using a variety of methods from simple multiplier increases, to voltage and FSB increases. I ran an athlon 1.2ghz t-bird at 1.57ghz until I upgraded, I overclocked my old Athlon XP 2500+ to a 3200+ and ran it for 5 years. I used a coolermaster jet 7 heatsink and fan and never had to crank that up past 30% fan speed. My case temps were around 36-40º and my CPU temps were between 44-54º using a Lian Li ally case with 4 internal fans. That CPU would go even higher than that... But I didn't like my idle temps to go above 50º so I clocked it lower than it was capable of. I even added some soundproofing to the case to help deaden the noise of the stock case fans as it was in my bedroom... and I ran that overclocked CPU for 5yrs and every 12 months I cleaned out the heatsink and fan, reapplied some thermal grease and cleaned out the rest of the case.

 

Since upgrading my rig a couple of months ago I passsed the CPU along to some one else and it's STILL running as a 3200.

 

I never had cooling/heat issues, never had crashing related to the CPU... the only reason I replaced the system was because the northbridge fan failed on the motherboard and caused some problems.

 

If it is done correctly and you test the stability correctly there is no reason not to overclock if you want to. It's all down the capacity of the hardware if it will allow overclocking. Some will and some won't... Same with video cards.

 

To claim it will shorten the life of the part if churlish... because it if shortens the lifespan of a CPU from 10yrs to 8yrs.. it will still outlive it's usefulness and will become obsolete long before it fails.

 

The only way parts will fail is if they have been overclocked outside of their capability... and each CPU is different and will give different results. So it is normally a user error than a hardware issue. If you don't know how to do it right (and won't learn), don't do it at all and don't listen to stupid advice telling you it's bad for the hardware.

[IEK]

overclocking may not be the most difficult thing ever but its not as simple as you make it sound in most cases.

keeping in mind not everyone has the same setup, often it requires a lot of bios changes (such as multiplier, fsb, ram, voltage, in some cases northbridge), and if you want things to be rock solid it is wise to run test such as prime 95 for atleast 5 hours (24 hours reccomended).

so dont go giving people the wrong idea :\

[abottig]

It is NOT easy to overclock if you are new to it. It`s not even easy if you`re experienced. Do not listen to over confident waffle from kids just showing off!

 

If could easily blow your machine by destroying your CPU (through overheat), etc.

 

First find a good site that knows about overclocking YOUR brand of Motherboard. Learm all about the FSB\MHZ, PSU, cooling flow, etc, etc, don`t just blindly wing it. It takes time and careful constant testing over a few days after each step up in overclocking.

 

Even then you may not even get the extra power you want at stock values, depending on your CPU and motherboard.

 

My PC is overclocked, but it took about 2 weeks of researching my motherboard forums and learning what exactly things like FSB did and Timings before I was ready to push her up.

 

If you`re not sure do not do it.

 

but please, don`t just start messing with your BIOS cos some kid says `I have and you don`t!` best thing to do is ignore him.

i was going to reply, but everyone else exposed you before i could.

[abottig]

overclocking may not be the most difficult thing ever but its not as simple as you make it sound in most cases.

keeping in mind not everyone has the same setup, often it requires a lot of bios changes (such as multiplier, fsb, ram, voltage, in some cases northbridge), and if you want things to be rock solid it is wise to run test such as prime 95 for atleast 5 hours (24 hours reccomended).

so dont go giving people the wrong idea :\

"Before I purchased this game I prepared myself by learning as much as I could about how to overclock my cpu."

--that is the first sentence of this post.

 

overclocking is easy if you take your time to understand what you're doing. someone with average intelligence can easily use google to teach themselves how to overclock a cpu. it's not rocket science.

 

...well, maybe for some of us it is.

[IEK]

 

overclocking is easy if you take your time to understand what you're doing. someone with average intelligence can easily use google to teach themselves how to overclock a cpu. it's not rocket science.

 

...well, maybe for some of us it is.

oh i agree, but it seems there are many people around here that don't fit that category

[funkymonkey]

Whats graphics configuration do you recomend for this PC?

 

Processor: Intel® Core2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz (2 CPUs)

Memory: 2048MB RAM

Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTS 320mb

 

[deicida]

I had my E6600 @ 3.4 GHz for a year, stable. It's actually not that hard to overclock your cpu (ram is a different story) especially if you have a good motherboard. Go read a good guide there are plenty.

[willhub]

 

It is NOT easy to overclock if you are new to it. It`s not even easy if you`re experienced.  Do not listen to over confident waffle from kids just showing off!

 

If could easily blow your machine by destroying your CPU (through overheat), etc.

 

First find a good site that knows about overclocking YOUR brand of Motherboard. Learm all about the FSB\MHZ, PSU, cooling flow, etc, etc, don`t just blindly wing it. It takes time and careful constant testing over a few days after each step up in overclocking.

 

Even then you may not even get the extra power you want at stock values, depending on your CPU and motherboard.

 

My PC is overclocked, but it took about 2 weeks of researching my motherboard forums and learning what exactly things like FSB did and Timings before I was ready to push her up.

 

If you`re not sure do not do it.

 

but please, don`t just start messing with your BIOS cos some kid says `I have and you don`t!` best thing to do is ignore him.

Hi.

 

 

Actually it is easy to overclock even if you are a novice, some programs overclock your CPU at the click of a button..

 

All you need to do to overclock is raise the FSB.

 

The hard bit is the stability, combining that with patience (8 hours+ of orthos/other stress testing programs)

 

Modern CPU's such as the C2D will not overheat, the Tjunction max for example on my E8500 is 100 degrees, when you reach this temperature the CPU will throttle back to prevent overheating. Also the main factor of killing a CPU is voltage. It is NOT easy to kill a CPU until you go for suicide.. I got my E8500 and P5Q-E mobo along with 4GB PC8500 ram and was overclocked and stable within a couple of days.

 

All the above has probably being said already but thats my take on this.

[deicida]

I wouldn't recommend using a program to alter the fsb from windows. Don't be afraid and just digg into the bios after reading a decent guide.

[polkunus]

Is it easy to overclock?

Its dangerous

U must have good cooling;

And knowledge in overcloking different devices

No you don't, Overclocking is extremely user-friendly now.

[_formation_100_]

Why pay more for a new cooler, its cheaper to buy a more expensive CPU with higher clock speeds then it is to OC(most of the time)

[deicida]

Why pay more for a new cooler, its cheaper to buy a more expensive CPU with higher clock speeds then it is to OC(most of the time)

I can't buy a core duo @ 3.4GHz

[willhub]

Why pay more for a new cooler, its cheaper to buy a more expensive CPU with higher clock speeds then it is to OC(most of the time)

Lol no...

 

I'll give you an example:

 

C2D E8200: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....B)%20-%20Retail

C2D E8500: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....B)%20-%20Retail

 

The E8500 will overclock more, but if you where going with a stock cooler it would struggle more than the E8200 could probably. Overclocking needs good cooling...

 

The price differences are not so big there but in terms of E8500 to E8600 they are and if you got an E8500 E0 steeping then an E8600 E0 stepping the overclock gap would be small, might aswell save money with the E8500 and get a cooler.

[Chevyboy]

Why pay more for a new cooler, its cheaper to buy a more expensive CPU with higher clock speeds then it is to OC(most of the time)

As soon as they make a 4Ghz C2D processor I'll be sure to thank you for this tidbit of info. Dumbass.

[willhub]

Why pay more for a new cooler, its cheaper to buy a more expensive CPU with higher clock speeds then it is to OC(most of the time)

As soon as they make a 4Ghz C2D processor I'll be sure to thank you for this tidbit of info. Dumbass.

Then we would all be at 5Ghz+

[ElectricNZ]

lol my friend has his E8500 @ 5ghz, running on a phase change unit, minus 50 degrees celsius