I think I have found a pc setup

[catzilla]

I don't really play games. I play half life and gta in spare time. That's about it.

If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't even use windows at all, but unfortunately, wine has a poor implementation of WIN32API as of now.

[akjs123]

I would suggest you wait a couple of days till the patch comes out, see how it affects others game performance with similar hardware to what you're planning to buy. That way you can decide better if its worth the cost.

[weedking]

If money isn't an issue, go Intel. If you want to save a few bucks go with the AMD. From what I was reading the performance difference isn't that major but yeah, the Q6600 is the better chip. I ordered a X4 9750 only because I'm strapped for cash and I need a cheap quad core.

[null_]

I would suggest you wait a couple of days till the patch comes out, see how it affects others game performance with similar hardware to what you're planning to buy. That way you can decide better if its worth the cost.

Werd

[catzilla]

Well, I'm leaving this thread, since all I get is newbs bashing me. No point of escalating to a flame war. Good luck to the topicstarter.

[rundll32]

 

dunno about you but personally, if I was thinking of upgrading at this point, I'd be looking at the i7 chips as you'll give yourself more options to upgrade in the future. However, they cost quite alot at the mo, quick look at google says £1199 for the whole system, so I'm not sure how much that would be in your money. But you would save more in the long run.

You could build it yourself and save abit, I built my first 3 months ago, if I can do it anyone can. Good place to start if your interested is buildyourown.org.uk.

If the price of 1199 is in Euros, then it will be about the same as my first set up of 1349,00 dollars. But I don't think I will build it myself, too lazy

 

Now the i7 alternative is tempting though

 

Edit: typing fail, again

[disposeablehero]

 

Well, I'm leaving this thread, since all I get is newbs bashing me. No point of escalating to a flame war. Good luck to the topicstarter.

Ironic, the guy who sayd Vista is buggy and Xp is better calling someone noob, lol. Weres the facts plinko? You have none, just mindless rhetoric and baseless lies. The real reason your leaving is you have no facts to back up your stupidity.

[big.bender]

don´t buy a raptor or have you money like papers ? a raptor is to expensive and it makes no real change to a normal HDD. Buy a good Samsung HDD and your right .

[rundll32]

I would suggest you wait a couple of days till the patch comes out, see how it affects others game performance with similar hardware to what you're planning to buy. That way you can decide better if its worth the cost.

Werd

I think I will do just that, it will also be funny to see how GTA runs on my current system with a new patch..

[lothar863]

Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price

1 Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Item #: N82E16811129021

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy -$30.00 Instant

 

$139.99

$109.99

2 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

Item #: N82E16822148230

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$83.98

($41.99 each)

1 DFI LANPARTY DK 790FX-M2RS AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

Item #: N82E16813136044

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$139.99

1 Antec TruePower Quattro TPQ-1000 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

Item #: N82E16817371012

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy -$20.00 Instant

 

$249.99

$229.99

4 Crucial Ballistix 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Desktop Memory Model BL12864AA106A - Retail

Item #: N82E16820148205

Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

$91.96

($22.99 each)

1 Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit English 1pk DSP OEI DVD for System Builders - OEM

Item #: N82E16832116493

Return Policy: Software Return Policy

$179.99

1

HIS Hightech H487F1GP Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

Item #: N82E16814161247

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

HIS HWOWDVD World of WarCraftR Special Trial DVD - Retail

Item #: N82E16800997038

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$25.00 Instant

-$39.99 Combo

 

$10.00 Mail-in Rebate

$314.98

$249.99

1

AMD Phenom 9850 BLACK EDITION 2.5GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HD985ZXAGHBOX - Retail

Item #: N82E16819103249

Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

AMD Free Gamecock Legendary On-line Game for Window - OEM

Item #: N82E16800995061

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$49.99 Combo

 

$213.99

$164.00

Subtotal: $1,249.89

 

 

did it in just a few mins the price can be lowered swaping different componets and still get the same preformance

[rundll32]

don´t buy a raptor or have you money like papers ? a raptor is to expensive and it makes no real change to a normal HDD. Buy a good Samsung HDD and your right .

My current budget is 1500 dollars

[CEMEH_CEMEHbl4]

I think windows vista is stupid. Get xp.

Why? XP is an aging dog sure it may be more stable than Vista (not for me) but XP used to be gash too. Vista is the current OS and has DX10 O_o

 

Isn't there a new OS coming from Micro$oft soon?

i agree Windows 7 is coming

 

and it will be not so retarded like VISTA

[disposeablehero]

I think windows vista is stupid. Get xp.

Why? XP is an aging dog sure it may be more stable than Vista (not for me) but XP used to be gash too. Vista is the current OS and has DX10 O_o

 

Isn't there a new OS coming from Micro$oft soon?

i agree Windows 7 is coming

 

and it will be not so retarded like VISTA

How is it retarded? Please explain? More BS.

[rundll32]

did it in just a few mins the price can be lowered swaping different componets and still get the same preformance

Ok, url?

[chillum]

I think I will spend my money on this system, it will cost me approximately 1349,00 dollars (I chose the hardware, they build it for me)

 

Antec Nine Hundred Black Miditower

 

Corsair Powersupply 550W Bulk, black,

 

Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4, AMD 790X, DDR2,

 

AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition Quad-Core 2.5 GHz Boxed, 4MB Cache, Socket AM2+, 125w,

 

Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 2048MB CL5 (can double the memory for a small amount of money if necessary?)

 

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 1GB GDDR3, PCI-Express 2.0, 2xDVI/HDMI/HDCP, Lite-R

 

Western Digital Caviar GP 500GB SATA2,

 

Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer,

 

Sony NEC Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-5200A,

 

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit

 

If anyone see any stupid about this setup please let me know, as I am not the best computerbuilder around

at least 4 gig RAM are crucial nowadays. But get CL4 ram. CL5 is outdated.

 

If you want a gaming rig, forget the i7. Its just sh*tty for gamers, if you render alot or do other cpu intensive tasks (aside from gaming) then you need an i7 for the future.

 

And think about forgetting the X-fi extreme Gamer and getting a 4870 instead. should give you 20% more gaming power, and if you want to be future proof get the 1gb version.

 

550W are more than enough, you could run a x2 with it.

 

 

Spinpoint F1 as a hard drive would be an alternative, too.

 

 

just my 2 cents.

 

[bluebird2008]

took me about 2 hours to physically build and I have to say I did quite enjoy it, also feel better at not being ripped off by PC world and Curry's etc for a junk machine that have dated components. If you dont want to/cant be bothered to,thats fair enough, I spent far more hours reading up on it than building. But I stand by that, even if you get one thats pre-built, I'd go all out and get the i7. You'll save alot more in the long run.

[rshizzle]

Go and buy a CORE i7 DUDE!!!

 

It's Amazing bro!!!!

 

 

[disposeablehero]

I think I will spend my money on this system, it will cost me approximately 1349,00 dollars (I chose the hardware, they build it for me)

 

Antec Nine Hundred Black Miditower

 

Corsair Powersupply 550W Bulk, black,

 

Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4, AMD 790X, DDR2,

 

AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition Quad-Core 2.5 GHz Boxed, 4MB Cache, Socket AM2+, 125w,

 

Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 2048MB CL5 (can double the memory for a small amount of money if necessary?)

 

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 1GB GDDR3, PCI-Express 2.0, 2xDVI/HDMI/HDCP, Lite-R

 

Western Digital Caviar GP 500GB SATA2,

 

Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer,

 

Sony NEC Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-5200A,

 

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit

 

If anyone see any stupid about this setup please let me know, as I am not the best computerbuilder around 

at least 4 gig RAM are crucial nowadays. But get CL4 ram. CL5 is outdated.

 

If you want a gaming rig, forget the i7. Its just sh*tty for gamers, if you render alot or do other cpu intensive tasks (aside from gaming) then you need an i7 for the future.

 

And think about forgetting the X-fi extreme Gamer and getting a 4870 instead. should give you 20% more gaming power, and if you want to be future proof get the 1gb version.

 

550W are more than enough, you could run a x2 with it.

 

 

Spinpoint F1 as a hard drive would be an alternative, too.

 

 

just my 2 cents.

Depends, I love high quailty sound and the xtreme gamer on my 5.1 surround sounds sounds ten times better then onboard.

[rundll32]

A lot of different meanings here, but thanks for all the replies

[disposeablehero]

Go and buy a CORE i7 DUDE!!!

 

It's Amazing bro!!!!

Disagree, benchmarks show little to zero performance increase in games. Also, games are more GPU bound then CPU bound, Dual Cores are not even bottlenecks yet, by the time Core i7 is needed for games the current crop will have been upgraded twice. For the price Core I7 is a complete and utter waste for a gamer.

[rshizzle]

 

Go and buy a CORE i7 DUDE!!!

 

It's Amazing bro!!!!

Disagree, benchmarks show little to zero performance increase in games. Also, games are more GPU bound then CPU bound, Dual Cores are not even bottlenecks yet, by the time Core i7 is needed for games the current crop will have been upgraded twice. For the price Core I7 is a complete and utter waste for a gamer.

when i set my cpu clock at 3,2 ghz what i have tested also on my i7 is 4steps fore on the quad to extreme in benchmarks

 

+ i have a ATI Radeon 4870 DDR5 1GB Overclocked edition

 

so okey The games are GPU bound

 

Check here my benchmark on GTA IV....

 

only i7 can do that

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 69.72

Duration: 38.92 sec

CPU Usage: 23%

System memory usage: 44%

Video memory usage: 77%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Render Quality: High

View Distance: 32

Detail Distance: 70

 

Hardware

Rockers International Team® Windows Vista Eternity" 2009 x64

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series

Video Driver version: 7.14.10.621

Audio Adapter: Speakers (SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio)

Intel® Core i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz

[bluebird2008]

I no what your saying about about the i7 is not good value for performance yet, but if you get it now you aint gonna have to worry about upgrading the mobo and DDR3 Ram. If you get a Quad now, you're gonna have to upgrade everything in about 2 years, as that chipset has run its course.

[disposeablehero]

I no what your saying about about the i7 is not good value for performance yet, but if you get it now you aint gonna have to worry about upgrading the mobo and DDR3 Ram. If you get a Quad now, you're gonna have to upgrade everything in about 2 years, as that chipset has run its course.

The money you would save now not going to Icore 7 would make it easy to go icore 7 in 2 years. A icore 7 now will cost over $1000 (Motherboards alone are close to $400). Plus, in 2 years time the Icore 7's on the market now will be replaced. It is a big watse of money getting a core I 7 right now.

[chillum]

 

Go and buy a CORE i7 DUDE!!!

 

It's Amazing bro!!!!

Disagree, benchmarks show little to zero performance increase in games. Also, games are more GPU bound then CPU bound, Dual Cores are not even bottlenecks yet, by the time Core i7 is needed for games the current crop will have been upgraded twice. For the price Core I7 is a complete and utter waste for a gamer.

when i set my cpu clock at 3,2 ghz what i have tested also on my i7 is 4steps fore on the quad to extreme in benchmarks

 

+ i have a ATI Radeon 4870 DDR5 1GB Overclocked edition

 

so okey The games are GPU bound

 

Check here my benchmark on GTA IV....

 

only i7 can do that

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 69.72

Duration: 38.92 sec

CPU Usage: 23%

System memory usage: 44%

Video memory usage: 77%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Render Quality: High

View Distance: 32

Detail Distance: 70

 

Hardware

Rockers International Team® Windows Vista Eternity" 2009 x64

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series

Video Driver version: 7.14.10.621

Audio Adapter: Speakers (SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio)

Intel® Core i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz

LOL , you bought the i7 for what ?

 

Every Q9770 rocks over the heaviest i7 in gaming aspects.

Search for benchmarks by yourself if you don't believe me.

 

If you render with 3dMax and want to game in the meanwhile, the i7 MIGHT be right for you.

The i7 is just NOT a gaming plattform.

 

You could've spend the extra $$$ in a X2 or a crossfire with the two 4870's , maybe water cooling to get the q9770 @ 4 ghz

 

And i don't believe that the i7 is only stressed with 23% in your benchmark, try to get it to 100% should be easy, but i suppose you can't because you can't use 100% of its poewer due to HT limits in games.

 

And if you spend some thousand $$$ in a "gaming" rig, try not to use warez like "Rockers International Team® Windows Vista Eternity" 2009 x64 " you save at the wrong end,

and its not really clever showing everyone you use a pirated os, i know its not fair, but they (R*) don't have to give you proper support

 

Again: The i7 is not a bad processor, if i had a alot of money i probably would get me one, but i work more with my pc than i game, so the working power would outweigh the not superior performance in gaming, which is not that bad at all, but nothing compared to a q9770

Edited December 9, 2008 by chillum