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JostVice

Documenting GTA IV Data files

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xmen
Anyone tried looking at the IDEs? as someone pointed, looks like IPL is now inside IDE someway too... Looked in pc/data/maps you can find in each subfolder that there are 4 files: Ide, XPL, (could be a xbox leftover, don't know...), WPL (windows placement list?) and a IMG with the models/textures and some other stuff.

 

The IDE structure I could guess from a IDE inside jersey folder:

 

 

WDR(model) name, WTD (texture), Drawdistance, flag?, 0, X, Y, Z, rotationX, rotationY, rotationZ, ?, 0, 0, ?, LOD?

 

 

Also.. vehicle models inside vehicles.img are stored as WFT, and these ones are WDR ? Well, nothing really about data...

yes i think, R* removed object placment through ipl.

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Anyone tried looking at the IDEs? as someone pointed, looks like IPL is now inside IDE someway too... Looked in pc/data/maps you can find in each subfolder that there are 4 files: Ide, XPL, (could be a xbox leftover, don't know...), WPL (windows placement list?) and a IMG with the models/textures and some other stuff.

 

The IDE structure I could guess from a IDE inside jersey folder:

 

 

WDR(model) name, WTD (texture), Drawdistance, flag?, 0, X, Y, Z, rotationX, rotationY, rotationZ, ?, 0, 0, ?, LOD?

 

 

Also.. vehicle models inside vehicles.img are stored as WFT, and these ones are WDR ? Well, nothing really about data...

yes i think, R* removed object placment through ipl.

Then what are the *.WPL files? Windows Placemet List?

 

They could use WPL for the props placement and the IDEs for the normal map buildings placement (That only are spawned one time, when the props are used all around the city map)

 

Just an idea... could also explain the difference between Draw distance and Detail distance... sarcasm.gif

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nebura

Can disable peds passing over player's car?

When I stop at traffic light, they always try to pass me and crash!

It's very annoying devil.gif

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TF{0.o}

 

about the weaponinfo is it possible to increase the damage threshhold so that everything flies trough the air when you use the rocket?

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Gforce

i had a look into the map ide's , they appear to be a mix of ide and ipl (already known afaik)

 

i think this is how they work moto_whistle.gif

obj

 

objmodel(.wdr), texture dictionary(.wtd), draw distance, object type flag, interior/exterior flag, mirror/reflection coord's X, Y, Z, above ground coord's X, Y, Z, rotation coord's X, Y, Z, W, lod group dictionary(.wdd)end

 

 

example of a working obj pair

 

objBKN2_coast_1sed, bkn2_coast, 200, 0, 0, -45.0934, -43.5151, -17.2155, 45.0933, 43.5151, 17.2155, -2.67029e-005, 0, 0, 64.9873, nullBKN2_coast_1sedLOD, bkn2_lod3, 550, 0, 0, -45.097, -43.449, -16.9519, 45.0969, 43.449, 16.9519, -4.57764e-005, -3.8147e-006, 0, 64.8762, bkn2_slod2_grpend

 

tobj

 

tobjmodel(.wdr), texture dictionary(.wtd), draw distance, object type flag, interior/exterior flag, mirror/reflection coords X, Y, Z, above ground coords X, Y, Z, rotation coords X, Y, Z, W, lod group dictionary(.wdd), flagend

 

 

example of a working tobj pair

 

tobjemmissive_projectA, emmissive_bxe2, 299, 12591104, 0, -26.1877, -26.1876, -38.6095, 26.1877, 26.1876, 38.6094, 0, -1.90735e-006, -4.19617e-005, 53.5002, null, 33030207LODemmiss_projectA, lodPROJemis_bxe2, 2000, 12591104, 0, -26.1577, -26.1576, -38.6095, 26.1577, 26.1576, 38.6094, -1.90735e-006, -1.90735e-006, -4.19617e-005, 53.4709, l_lodprojemis_bxe2, 33030207end

 

 

note that the main model entry line has "null" in lod group dictionary section and that lod model entries use a lod dictionary name.

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JostVice

Nice work Gforce, we may start writting all in the wiki

 

anim

 

Modelname(WDR), Texture dictionary (WTD), Animation name (WAD), val1, flag, 0, mirrorx, mirrory, mirrorz, x, y, z, rotationX, rotationY, rotationZ, val2, lodgroup (WDD)

 

 

I don't understand what could the 'val' or the flag do, either that 0... here is a pair from manhat05.ide wink.gif

 

 

04_Sign01_MH5, 04_builds_MH5, manhat05, 45, 12583936, 0, -0.492611, -2.67318, -5.18256, 0.492641, 2.67314, 5.22375, 1.52588e-005, -1.90735e-005, 0.0205908, 5.87037, null08_Backs_04_MH5, 08_builds_MH5, manhat05, 90, 1024, 0, -16.8932, -18.7907, -15.8449, 16.2725, 19.4119, 15.8449, -0.310329, 0.310587, 9.53674e-007, 29.8481, null

 

 

amat section

 

modelname(must be existing in obj section), flag0, flag1

 

 

Didn't do my tests yet as doing all without any coordinator tool is a bit hard, but this looks like some way of material's properties edit or something like that (Just by the name 'amat')

 

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xmen

nice work both of you guys...

here is some of 2dfx

if type = 0

 

modelname, X, Y, Z, type, RX, RY, RZ, RW, flag(0,1,2) ?, ColorR, ColorG, ColorB, ColorA ?, image name*, image name 2* ?, LOD ?, unknown, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, flag, (17-Unknowns) 

 

 

*must be in quote

 

if type = 1

 

 

modelname, X, Y, Z, type, RX, RY, RZ, RW, defined particleName ?, unknown, unknown, unknown, LOD ?, 0, ColorR, ColorG, ColorB

 

 

 

all info is just guess, dont have working game to test confused.gif

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Lucial

Lo Gents, im trying to find out how extras are added to vehicles. Read through a lot of text (tl;dr?) and i understand that some things, like the backfire effect on bashed up cars use flags, and can be added to any car, but then the effects used on the banshee and sultanrs seem to be hardcoded, they can be added by changing the game name in vehicles.ide but then you run into the problem of your car being called banshee or sultanrs when its not. There are other flags in that file that im interested in:

 

ext_gang: Im assuming this would add the gang extras to the car, eg: the sentinel xs, futo GT, sultan TT...

ext_sunroof: Certainly adds extras, but is not responsible for them all

ext_conv: Short for convertible? Adds the roof to convertible vehicle, will test if removing this makes banshees only spawn as convertibles.

livery: Special decals i think, the rust effect on bangers and the american flag on patriots.

ext_strong: No idea.

ext_requi: No idea.

ext_all: No idea.

ext_rare: No idea.

 

Ive done some tests removing ext_sunroof, specifically on the duke, it seemed to remove certain extras, but not all of them, extras still appeared, hood scoops, wings, slats, everything, but sometimes the scoop would not be there and there would just be a hole in the bonnet confused.gif

 

If anyone has any info on this it would be most useful, also if anyone knows how car extras were handled in SA that might be relevant. Some information on how cars spawn would also be useful, ive noticed that when using a car spawner (alex's) the extras seem to be totally random, anybody know how that works? Or if they can be called.

 

(Just to throw another spanner in the works, bikes, which do have extras, like the nrgs different fronts or the freeways saddle bags, dont have any relevant flags, fun fun biggrin.gif)

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Krailer

 

...also if anyone knows how car extras were handled in SA that might be relevant.

In SA extras are contained in the model file (*.dff), and are probably handled by the executable. Extras can be added by editing the model file, even to vehicles that don't have them originally (provided all the parts are named accordingly and placed in the proper order in the model hierarchy) and will spawn in-game in an apparently random manner.

 

 

(Just to throw another spanner in the works, bikes, which do have extras, like the nrgs different fronts or the freeways saddle bags, dont have any relevant flags, fun fun biggrin.gif)

In SA motorbike extras are handled the same way as cars, although they seem to spawn in a certain order, probably to avoid glitches such as 2 different exhausts or 2 different cowls spawning at the same time. I'd guess they're handled pretty much the same way in IV, but it's really just a guess.

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JostVice

The flags in the past game were used for special behaviours (Hidraulics in SA, special habilitties like 'jumping' as enter anim instead of opening the door, no doors flag, and so on) so probably the new addition to IV of extras attached to vehicle parts might be controlled by this... that could explain someway the dukes with hole in the bonnet...

 

The gang extras are interesting, they should be named a special way so they spawn all in the same time (so we see the carbon bonnet and the race seat for futo, etc)

 

Nice work turn.gif

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Kiwisdofly

Could someone point me to the file that governs the camera when Niko is on foot?

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Callen

Sorry for the bump but I've been at this for literally hours!!

 

I can't get this to fire properly. I pull out the AK and it shoots but nothing happens!

 

 

	<weapon type="AK47"> <data slot="RIFLE" firetype="PROJECTILE" damagetype="EXPLOSIVE" group="GRENADE" targetrange="55.0" weaponrange="65.0" clipsize="30" ammomax="600" timebetweenshots="133"> 	<damage base="50" networkplayermod="2.0" networkpedmod="1.0"/> 	<physics force="100.0"/> 	<reload time="5" fasttime="1166" crouchtime="2066"/> 	<aiming accuracy="0.5">   <offset         x="0.16" y="1.0" z="0.55"/>   <crouchedoffset x="0.1"  y="1.0" z="0.12"/>   <reticule standing="0.6" ducked="0.5" scale="0.3"/> 	</aiming> 	<pickup regentime="480000" ammoonstreet="80"/> 	<controller>   <rumble duration="90" intensity="0.1"/> 	</controller> 	<flags>   <flag>GUN</flag>   <flag>CAN_AIM</flag>   <flag>CAN_FREE_AIM</flag>   <flag>ANIM_RELOAD</flag>   <flag>ANIM_CROUCH_FIRE</flag>   <flag>2HANDED</flag>   <projectile>   	<typetocreate type="ROCKET"/>   	<offset    x="0.54" y="0.0" z="0.055"/>   	<rotoffset x="0.0"  y="0.0" z="-1.571"/>   </projectile> 	</flags> </data>  <assets model="w_ak47"> 	<anim group="[email protected]">   <rates firerate="1.2" blindfirerate="1.2"/> 	</anim> 	<effects>   <muzzle fx="muz_machine"/> 	</effects> </assets></weapon>

 

 

 

	<weapon type="UNUSED0"> <data slot="THROWN" firetype="PROJECTILE" damagetype="FIRE" group="MOLOTOV" targetrange="35.0" clipsize="1" ammomax="25"> 	<damage networkplayermod="2.0" networkpedmod="1.0"/> 	<aiming accuracy="1.0">   <offset         x="0.0" y="1.0" z="0.0"/>   <crouchedoffset x="0.0" y="1.0" z="0.0"/> 	</aiming> 	<pickup regentime="240000" ammoonstreet="8"/> 	<controller>       <rumble duration="50" intensity="0.3"/> 	</controller> 	<flags>   <flag>THROWN</flag>   <flag>CAN_AIM</flag>   <flag>CAN_FREE_AIM</flag>   <flag>ANIM_RELOAD</flag>   <flag>ANIM_CROUCH_FIRE</flag>   <flag>SILENCED</flag> 	</flags> 	<projectile type="IMPACT">   <explosion type="MOLOTOV"/>   <physics force="33.0" vehiclevelocity="8.0"/> 	</projectile> </data> <assets model="w_molotov"> 	<anim group="molotov"/> </assets></weapon>

 

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Gforce

while researching the 2dfx sections of the ide files for building my "GTAIV IDE-IO" 3DS max scripts i came across some new data.

 

here are my current findings.

 

Type 0

 

 

modelname, X, Y, Z, type_0, RX, RY, RZ, RW, particleName , 0, 0, effect_size, 100, 0, ColorR, ColorG, ColorB

 

 

Type 2 (take note of the "," at the end of line)

 

 

modelname, X, Y, Z, type_2, RX, RY, RZ, RW, 0, 0, effect_type , 4, 

 

Type 12

 

 

modelname, X, Y, Z, 12, 0, 0, RX, RY, RZ, RW, flag_? (1778914003), 1.4, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 

 

 

Type 17

 

 

modelname, X, Y, Z, type_17, RX, RY, RZ, RW, flag1 ? (2723969791), flag2 ? (3744729013), 0, 0, 

 

 

Effect type examples

--------------------

 

 

1=breaking glass2=explosion3=explosion

 

different particles have different presets within the "0" entries

 

also "type 2" 2dfx entries have different presets within the "0" entries for any given effect_type

 

i have found extra "type" entries of 12 and 17 so far

 

some 2dfx entry types are used more than once per model name, some even use up to 6 per model !!!

 

it also seems that most prop objects (that move) using a 2dfx entry also have an "amat"(attached model animation type ?) entry which appears to be an animation control type

 

so far i have been unable to effect any colour changes from modifying the colour settings

 

i will update with new findings as and when i find them

 

here is a screenshot of what happens when you increase the effect size of the fire from 4 to 25 wink.gif

 

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Gforce

since the recent wpl placement tool was released, i've been able to investigate more of the sections within the binary wpl files.

 

here goes with the information i've managed to work out for the extra sections so far.

 

Section 2 appears to be the grge section.

 

 

X1,Y1,Z1 are the lower left corner (coords) of a box, X2,Y3,Z3 are the upper right corner (coords) of a box and X3 and Y2 are the lower left coords identical to X1 and Y1.

 

 

the "unkn 10" entry is for garage type, known types so far are as follows:-

 

 

1=garage with door,2=pay n spray 3=Delivery for money garage and 5=save garage point

 

 

the "unkn 9" entry appears to be a script call entry, Delivery garages have a 5 and parked/saved garage entries use a 1 in "unkn 9"

 

the screens below illustrate my findings a bit more clearly.

 

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Section 3 in the streamed (in the img's) wpl files is the parked car section, X,Y,Z being the position.

 

Section 4 appears to be the exterior interior cull's, interiors that are accessible without going through doors.

 

 

X1,Y1,Z1 are the lower left corner (coords) of a box, X2,Y2,Z2 are the upper right corner (coords) of a box.

 

the screens below illustrate my findings a bit more clearly.

 

user posted image

 

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Section 10 appears to also be some kind of cull box but so far i am unable to work out what for.

 

 

X1,Y1,Z1 are the lower left corner (coords) of a box, X2,Y2,Z2 are the upper right corner (coords) of a box.

 

 

i have also been working on the Section 15 entries which appear to be some kind of flat 2 poly plane reference entries with 2 entries per corner, i will investigate more later.

 

PS: at the Staff, will someone please pin this damned topic because it's becoming a real f*cking headache to find amongst the endless spam topics ?

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Gforce

Bump!!

 

added info to above post regarding the "unkn 10" and "unkn 9" sections of the "grge" entry of the wpl.

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Andrew

Temporarily pinned. (I have plans for the modding forums)

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Topic unpinned, but has been included in the forum header.

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Gforce

here is a visual update on how garage boxes and cull boxes work within IV, edited from a post elsewhere on the forums.

 

the X1,Y1,Z1 coords will always be the lower left position on the world map and the X2,Y3,Z3 coords will always be upper right position on the world map and garage boxes are always at right angles on the map.

 

the X3 and Y2 coords are for the door position/entrance and can sometimes move around on the lowest verts of the garage box depending on the garage orientation.

 

garage door entrance locations on the box are always defined at the lower left corner of the box face for whichever direction you want to enter the garage

 

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on a side note, the X1,Y1,Z1 and X2,Y2,Z2 coords on cull boxes also work the same way as garage box X1,Y1,Z1 and X2,Y3,Z3 coords.

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JostVice

I've found some clues about the MLO section on the IDE, in a interior IDE.

 

data\maps\interiors\generic\indust1.ide

 

It seems that the MLO is used for some type of placement in the WDD offset. there isn't any indust1.wpl in this folder, so I think they use this for placing the props and stuff.

 

 

BOUND FILE, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?WDR (Needs to be defined in OBJS section), X, Y, Z, Xrot, Yrot, Zrot, Some type of rot?, ?, ?,       ...mloroomstartroomname, some numbersnumbers, numbers ...roomendmloportalstartmloend

 

 

I've just tested the first part, i'm not sure about what the room/portal stuff is about. I think the WDR's coordinates go from the Bounds file, but I can't test this.

 

the room name could be some culling? the portal being the entrances or something

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Gforce

update post to point out that the gtamodding wiki has been updated.

 

wpl page here -------> WPL page

ide page here -------> IDE page

 

also includes procobj.ide info for IV.

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Here is some additional info on WPLs in general. The naming convention of files points to the scale as some of you probably have realised. I calculated the convex hull of each wpl and came up with the following spatial hierarchy.

The wpls in /maps/east, /maps/manhat and /maps/jersey form a tiling like this:

 

user posted image

 

 

The rest of the WPLs are located within img archieves in same folders and are separated by their names by containing either internal string "strbig" or "stream". The strbig- files tile quite similarily than previous upper level WPL and look like this:

 

user posted image

 

 

And finally the most fine grained data is in stream named files and their division looks quite clear. Unfortunatelly the file names didn't fit in, but I assume you get the point from following:

 

user posted image

 

It is noteworthy that the only significantly overlapping hull in these files is the mathat_sw that contains subway related information. I'd assume mre presise division should be found from zone files.

 

I hope this helps in locatiing specific models.

(And sorry for stealing the IGN map for backdrop image; I just couldn't find better one.)

Take care.

 

 

 

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Shadow-Link

nice work pr0f pretty sure this will come in handy for me!

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RussianCJ

Can anyone explain the structure of the 2dfx lines in GTA IV IDE files using the example?

 

bc02_block, 2.20691, -11.7262, 5.65278, 0, 0.0131166, -0.0416005, -0.382319, 0.923, 2, 255, 243, 159, 0, "corona", "", 100, 30, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 64, 31, 35, 15, 1, 1, 0, 12, -0.0667651, -0.0560226, -0.996195, -0.706853, 0.70732, 0.00759613, 0, -1, -1, 1

 

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Can anyone explain the structure of the 2dfx lines in GTA IV IDE files using the example?

 

bc02_block, 2.20691, -11.7262, 5.65278, 0, 0.0131166, -0.0416005, -0.382319, 0.923, 2, 255, 243, 159, 0, "corona", "", 100, 30, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 64, 31, 35, 15, 1, 1, 0, 12, -0.0667651, -0.0560226, -0.996195, -0.706853, 0.70732, 0.00759613, 0, -1, -1, 1

 

take a little look at IDE-IO in this topic

and the pictures in this post illustrate their relationship with the model you want the effect for wink.gif

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RussianCJ

Well, there are examples with using effect type 1, but I'm trying to use "corona" effect, but it doesn't appear with this effect type. sad.gif

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Gforce

did you forget to hit the 2DFX - Lights tab ? Corona is in there wink.gif

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RussianCJ

Well, I have tried to make 2DFX lights with IDE-IO...no results. Can you show line with light effect for example?) Maybe I'm doing something in a wrong way...my example:

 

man_chandeliers, -17.5869, 4.25116, 0.930544, 1, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, -1.0, 0, 76, 68, 35, 2, "corona", "null", 100, 30, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1048640, 0, 70, 9, 1, 1, 0, 9, 0.0, 0.0, 1, 1, 0.0, 0.0, 0, -1, -1, 1

 

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Well, I have tried to make 2DFX lights with IDE-IO...no results. Can you show line with light effect for example?) Maybe I'm doing something in a wrong way...my example:

 

man_chandeliers, -17.5869, 4.25116, 0.930544, 1, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, -1.0, 0, 76, 68, 35, 2, "corona", "null", 100, 30, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1048640, 0, 70, 9, 1, 1, 0, 9, 0.0, 0.0, 1, 1, 0.0, 0.0, 0, -1, -1, 1

 

are you putting the 2DFX entry in the same ide as the definition (objs) entry for "man_chandeliers" ?

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RussianCJ

Yes, I am. There is this line in OBJS section:

 

man_chandeliers, starmansionst, 220, 12582912, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, null

 

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fiveletters

 

I don't think anyone has pointed this out yet. If you change the damagetype on UNARMED to 'BULLET' and add the <physics force= ""/> line (with the amount within the parentheses) it'll give Niko super strength when hitting objects/cars. For some reason it didn't work when I'd punch/push people.

 

The info for it would look like this:

 

<weapon type="UNARMED">

  <data slot="UNARMED" firetype="MELEE" damagetype="BULLET" group="PUNCH_KICK" targetrange="10.0" weaponrange="1.6">

   <damage base="500" networkplayermod="1.0" networkpedmod="1.0"/>

   <physics force="25000.0"/>

   <pickup regentime="0"/>

 

   <controller>

    <rumble duration="60" intensity="0.23"/>

   </controller>

 

   <flags>

    <flag>CAN_AIM</flag>

    <flag>ARMOUR_PENETRATING</flag>

   </flags>

  </data>

</weapon>

 

 

The size change is what you need to add/change to have super punches.

 

Here's a video of it in action with the max force amount:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKBy1DB2uPM

I can't seem to make the font bigger on only ONE segment of the weaponInfo.xml... If I go to options/font, I can only enlarge all of the text. Highlighting does not work either, as the highlighted text will not be highlighted when the fonts window is opened. How can I change the size of only the segments which I need to?

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