extender Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I've looking many many many threats from here and all over the internet. And what I can see is that most people who get over 40FPS and can run this game high detail settings and density without no problems are having mostly 8800GT/8800GTS/8800GTX with E8400/Q6600 CPU. Not to sound pessimistic but the GeForce 8800's seem to play a big part in the game's graphics for some kind of odd reason. And E8400/Q6600 also along with 8800. Maybe Rockstar Ported this game to run perfectly with E8400/Q6600 and 8800 series together? It looks like the game knows how to use 8800 and E8400/Q6600 resources fully. 8800 even over performs 280GTX/HD4870 etc guys. And so far what I've seen then most of the people who are having the trouble with the game are using either AMD X4/ATI 4870/GeForce 280GTX/Intel Quad etc powerful GPU's/CPU's. Looks really really odd. What do You think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester123 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I wipe my own ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub12 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 It's simple. If you want to run GTA IV, get a fast quad core. Preferably a Core i7, those are acing the game! It's not that 8800 outperforms the 4870, no. An 8800+Quad will outperform GTX 280+Dual. The duals are forming a heavy bottleneck, so the GPU capabilities are not used. Someone proved this in a thread just a few minutes back. This game is heavily CPU limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arewenotmen Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I think there's some truth in the OP. I think there's some issue with the game & the latest generation cards - there's too much variation in CPU to be that. I have an AMD X2 5200 and I'm doing fine, but it seems that's because I have an 8800GTX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extender Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 I think there's some truth in the OP. I think there's some issue with the game & the latest generation cards - there's too much variation in CPU to be that. I have an AMD X2 5200 and I'm doing fine, but it seems that's because I have an 8800GTX. Lol. You got 8800GTX? That even proves even more my thoughts. So everyone! Sell your GTX280 etc and buy 8800GT/GTX/Ultra . GTA IV just knows how to take advantage of the 8800. At least it looks like so so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.whiz Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 im using that logic to buy a 9800GTX 1GB. hopefully it will be used just as good as the 8800GTX and even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arewenotmen Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 The GTX is only about £150 now too - good cards. I can run Far Cry 2 - a very pretty but immensely boring game by the way - and Crysis at full everything, in a window, 1900x1200. The 280GTX is just under twice as fast in some tests, but it's not enough to make me think about upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParoXum Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 It's simple. If you want to run GTA IV, get a fast quad core. Preferably a Core i7, those are acing the game! It's not that 8800 outperforms the 4870, no. An 8800+Quad will outperform GTX 280+Dual. The duals are forming a heavy bottleneck, so the GPU capabilities are not used. Someone proved this in a thread just a few minutes back. This game is heavily CPU limited. Quoted for the truth. Folks, read it when a member tell the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.whiz Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 It's simple. If you want to run GTA IV, get a fast quad core. Preferably a Core i7, those are acing the game! It's not that 8800 outperforms the 4870, no. An 8800+Quad will outperform GTX 280+Dual. The duals are forming a heavy bottleneck, so the GPU capabilities are not used. Someone proved this in a thread just a few minutes back. This game is heavily CPU limited. Quoted for the truth. Folks, read it when a member tell the truth. while there is some truth in that, it still doesn't explain how someone can play the game at med-high settings on a 3.2 dual core with 8800GTX with like 40 fps and when i've seen benchmarks of the same but with a GTX280 with less fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParoXum Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 You cant compare different users with the same systems. Some just dont know how to setup their computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 It's simple. If you want to run GTA IV, get a fast quad core. Preferably a Core i7, those are acing the game! It's not that 8800 outperforms the 4870, no. An 8800+Quad will outperform GTX 280+Dual. The duals are forming a heavy bottleneck, so the GPU capabilities are not used. Someone proved this in a thread just a few minutes back. This game is heavily CPU limited. Quoted for the truth. Folks, read it when a member tell the truth. while there is some truth in that, it still doesn't explain how someone can play the game at med-high settings on a 3.2 dual core with 8800GTX with like 40 fps and when i've seen benchmarks of the same but with a GTX280 with less fps. Could be the architecture of the cards or clocks maybe. Anyone tried underclocking their 280 or 260 down to 8800 core speeds etc? Maybe the 280s are causing massive bottleneck and the CPU has no chance to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.whiz Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 everyone should still keep in mind that for the most part, graphics seem to be random. we got one user who set up the game at three identical systems with different results if i'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParoXum Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 everyone should still keep in mind that for the most part, graphics seem to be random. we got one user who set up the game at three identical systems with different results if i'm not mistaken. Yeah, and most important yet : graphic looks the same between LOW and HIGH. There's not much difference between sliders. Except vehicles density and distances, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extender Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 So I did some "research" and there are the results. Im 90% sure that 8800 series and good C2D or Quad with the 8800 is the perfect setup for this game. Average FPS: 56.05 Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: High View Distance: 29 Detail Distance: 37 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz Average FPS: 43.05 Display: 1280x1024 Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: High View Distance: 50 Detail Distance: 40 Shadows: Level 6 Intel Duo Core e6600 2.4ghz Processor Nvidia 8800GTX 768mb GPU Statistiken Durchschnittliche FPS: 48.47 Dauer: 37.08 Sek CPU-Auslastung: 87% Systemspeicher-Auslastung: 95% Videospeicher-Auslastung: 92% Videomodus: 1152 x 864 (60 Hz) Texturenqualität: Hoch <- Max Renderqualität: Sehr hoch <- Max Sichtdistanz: 25 <- didn't try to set it higher - don't see much popping things around Detaildistanz: 37 Grafikkarte: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX Intel Pentium III Xeon-Prozessor <- Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Average FPS: 42.35 Duration: 37.12 sec CPU Usage: 92% System memory usage: 86% Video memory usage: 95% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: Very High View Distance: 25 Detail Distance: 48 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512 Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 3.2GHz meanwhile high end or very very good GPU and CPU guys are having those kind of settings and they get bad FPS Average FPS: 24.06 Duration: 37.79 sec CPU Usage: 89% System memory usage: 92% Video memory usage: 100% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (75 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: Highest View Distance: 100 Detail Distance: 100 Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ Average FPS: 26.98 Duration: 37.43 sec CPU Usage: 88% System memory usage: 76% Video memory usage: 79% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: High View Distance: 27 Detail Distance: 100 Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series <- MSI R4850 512MB Intel Pentium III Xeon processor <- Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 @ 2.53GHz CPU: Core2 Quad Q9450 3.06GHz RAM: 8GB DDR2 GPU: XFX 9800GX2 1024MBAverage FPS: 35.86 Duration: 38.15 sec CPU Usage: 51% System memory usage: 50% Video memory usage: 97% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (75 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: Very High View Distance: 38 Detail Distance: 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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