GTA IV PC will not work on a 64-bit O/S

[radioman]

XP 64 - latest SP is SP2 there is no 3 for xp64

 

 

Actually, if you check the Windows Update program that comes default with XP and Vista, it will be there as an option to install, that's how I installed SP3 on my XP laptop, and once I did, I got better performance out of the laptop. Windows Update automatically checks for updates everyday/week(depending on how you have it set up), so if it is not there, you can always download it free off the Microsoft website. Hope this helps.

 

The game should work on 64-bit OS's, because it says on the box that it is optimized for 64-bit OS's.

there is no service pack 3 for windows xp 64-bit like the poster you quoted said. you're probably talking about the 32-bit version. they're two completely different os's. stop claiming stuff that's not true.

Please point out where on the microsoft.com website, it says it is not for 64-bit OS's of XP? I just checked, and it says nothing about 32-bit or 64-bit versions, it just say Home Edition, Media Center edition, Professional, etc in the requirements. Hope this helps clear up some confusions.

[dr.whiz]

XP 64 - latest SP is SP2 there is no 3 for xp64

 

 

Actually, if you check the Windows Update program that comes default with XP and Vista, it will be there as an option to install, that's how I installed SP3 on my XP laptop, and once I did, I got better performance out of the laptop. Windows Update automatically checks for updates everyday/week(depending on how you have it set up), so if it is not there, you can always download it free off the Microsoft website. Hope this helps.

 

The game should work on 64-bit OS's, because it says on the box that it is optimized for 64-bit OS's.

there is no service pack 3 for windows xp 64-bit like the poster you quoted said. you're probably talking about the 32-bit version. they're two completely different os's. stop claiming stuff that's not true.

Please point out where on the microsoft.com website, it says it is not for 64-bit OS's of XP? I just checked, and it says nothing about 32-bit or 64-bit versions, it just say Home Edition, Media Center edition, Professional, etc in the requirements. Hope this helps clear up some confusions.

yeah it doesn't say and i'm not sure why so i can understand your logic. however fact still is, there is no service pack 3 for windows xp 64-bit. just do a google search on it and you'll get it confirmed.

[bp2018]

The game will work on a 64 bit OS just fine, however unlike vista x64, xp x64 allows unsigned drivers to be installed onto the system, this can cause alsorts of problems and is most likely what is causing your game not to function.

 

EDIT: forgot to mention, aslong as you have the latest xp x64 Service pack you are good to go.

 

Try updating your sound, video and network drivers to the latest versions, while doing so try to use signed drivers.

[dr.whiz]

 

The game will work on a 64 bit OS just fine, however unlike vista x64, xp x64 allows unsigned drivers to be installed onto the system, this can cause alsorts of problems and is most likely what is causing your game not to function.

 

EDIT: forgot to mention, aslong as you have the latest xp x64 Service pack you are good to go.

 

Try updating your sound, video and network drivers to the latest versions, while doing so try to use signed drivers.

not sure if you meant to say "aslong as you have the latest vista x64 Service pack you are good to go" but yeah, the unsigned drivers issue is just not true. ever since service pack 1 of vista 64-bit you can install any unsigned driver.

 

and there has always been hacks for it anyway.

[bp2018]

The game will work on a 64 bit OS just fine, however unlike vista x64, xp x64 allows unsigned drivers to be installed onto the system, this can cause alsorts of problems and is most likely what is causing your game not to function.

 

EDIT: forgot to mention, aslong as you have the latest xp x64 Service pack you are good to go.

 

Try updating your sound, video and network drivers to the latest versions, while doing so try to use signed drivers.

not sure if you meant to say "aslong as you have the latest vista x64 Service pack you are good to go" but yeah, the unsigned drivers issue is just not true. ever since service pack 1 of vista 64-bit you can install any unsigned driver.

 

and there has always been hacks for it anyway.

Read the first post please, the OP is using XP x64 NOT vista, so no I did not mean vista x64 with sp1.

 

Also when I mentioned unsigned drivers im talking about XP drivers since unsigned drivers on XP x64 really are not a good way to go as they cause more headaches than they are worth.

[dr.whiz]

 

The game will work on a 64 bit OS just fine, however unlike vista x64, xp x64 allows unsigned drivers to be installed onto the system, this can cause alsorts of problems and is most likely what is causing your game not to function.

 

EDIT: forgot to mention, aslong as you have the latest xp x64 Service pack you are good to go.

 

Try updating your sound, video and network drivers to the latest versions, while doing so try to use signed drivers.

not sure if you meant to say "aslong as you have the latest vista x64 Service pack you are good to go" but yeah, the unsigned drivers issue is just not true. ever since service pack 1 of vista 64-bit you can install any unsigned driver.

 

and there has always been hacks for it anyway.

Read the first post please, the OP is using XP x64 NOT vista, so no I did not mean vista x64 with sp1.

 

Also when I mentioned unsigned drivers im talking about XP drivers since unsigned drivers on XP x64 really are not a good way to go as they cause more headaches than they are worth.

i see, i guess we both misunderstood each other. still, since you CAN install unsigned drivers with windows vista x64 (unlike what you hinted), i guess you could say the problems that such drivers may cause are not exclusive for xp x64. still, the signed/unsigned drivers deal is just some silly security thing microsoft has, and shouldn't affect the end result as long as you're not retarded and install some non-legit stuff. just because a driver is unsigned, it doesn't have to mean it's not the one you very much want and very much need.. obviously.

[Democrab]

It does work on Vista Ultimate x64. No wonder it doesn't work on XP x64, it's a piece of sh*t with no support.

No the POS is Vista. I use XP X64, and own a distributor license for SP2C(the last released package.) A fresh XP install blows the doors off of a heavily configured/optimized Vista system, and has the exact same security architecture in the form of group policies and data execution prevention/stack protection; as well as signed kernel code filter. I can run advanced system care beta, configuring services etc, and get XP using less than 100MB physical RAM on average, and almost never any page file/virtual RAM. That's not actually disabling any interface functionality too- just like wireless zero config and some file system stuff.

 

I was given a free license for Vista Ultra, and it's been sitting on a shelf for years now because it sucked so much when I tried it.

 

While I'm at it I'd like to debunk two popular claims by Best Buy grade geeks:

1. Rootkit researchers can/have loaded unsigned drivers/kernel code on updated XP and Vista systems. They can be hooked and injected from user land still too.

 

2. Virtualization isn't limited to Vista, AMD-V and Intel-VT can be disabled in a BIOS though(it actually prevents ring -1 malicous code.) There are not many solutions outside security and virtual machines that use it currently.

And Vista stays good, whereas XP turns into a swirling bucket of crap after about 2 weeks.

[fuckin playa]

I have Vista Ultimate x64 and i play it since 9.12!So....I get no problems

[DIO_SVK]

Hi i have a little problem with GTA IV.on Windows XP x64 PLEASE HELP

 

I will be glad if someone solve my problem i like this kind of forums it helps

 

 

 

 

GTA IV Running on WinXP SP2 x64

 

if broken : http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=ST&f=233&t=391146

[copperwire93]

I once run gtaiv on 64 xp, and i got many missing textures, cars hover in road, peds lost their face/head and so laggy, so i revert back to 32bit edition

[FazZfilmz]

I'm still shocked that people still use... what's it called... SP... oh'yeah... XP.

 

Since Vista x64 was officially released, it has probably been the best OS in... well since the Amiga OS and some older Mac OS's (cough cough).

 

I never thought (coming from 25 years of using computers) I'd be sitting in my house, with 4 PC's built into it, controlling a number of fun and useful features, a main HTPC (this one) which runs a 1080p TFT screen as the main, a 1080p projector on the secondary, have the ability to playback full HD content, including 8 channel audio in HD PCM on either of both screens, play a game on one, use software on the other, play HD audio whilst building advance websites, edit films in HD, edit HD audio, create master pieces with PhotoShop etc and well... I think you see where I'm going. Computers are endless and yet there's ALWAYS more to come... every second. To limit the potential with an OLD operating system, which is essentially the base of the software side of things, then what can you honestly expect.

 

OK, so not everyone can use Vista x64, but at least the x86 by any means. I'm eager to try out the final release of Windows 7, but not that bothered as Vista is doing so well and for some time now too. Windows 7 looks very similar in the versions I've tried, but as not officially out, drivers are hugely lacking of course and I've only been able to mess around with the 32bit version, which is pointless in my books.

 

64bit is naturally the way forward, yet anything new and different people (humans to the point) always shy from different and most likely better, but give it sometime and you'll soon change your mind.

 

I think if XP works for you fine, stay with your Commodore 64 and be happy, but if not... simple change... the alternatives have been around for awhile youngling and if you’re not happy with that, you could always buy a Mac (sorry for the bad language) and have the ability to do... not very much.

[Chronine]

Just like the topic title says, GTA IV PC will not work on 64-bit Windows XP. Which is completely retarded considering the ridiculous amount of RAM this game requires and how little RAM 32-bit operating systems can support. If you try to install you will be greeted with this message:

 

 

Your operating system is not compatible. Click the image below to find out more information.

 

 

Clicking the image does nothing, by the way. Other than the System Recommendations lists no one online has a single word to say about this game not being supported on XP 64-bit. I'm hoping this will get some Google hits and spares some individuals the time I've wasted acquiring this game.

 

I'm also hearing a friend of mine is getting awful framerates on even the lowest screen resolution with his 9600GT. Thank you, Rockstar, Sony, and all you companies involved for making such an awful product.

Bullsh*t. You need XP service pack 3, and that one isn't available for XP x64. You should install Vista 64 instead if you have so much ram anyway. XP is obsolete.

 

 

No the POS is Vista. I use XP X64, and own a distributor license for SP2C(the last released package.) A fresh XP install blows the doors off of a heavily configured/optimized Vista system, and has the exact same security architecture in the form of group policies and data execution prevention/stack protection; as well as signed kernel code filter. I can run advanced system care beta, configuring services etc, and get XP using less than 100MB physical RAM on average, and almost never any page file/virtual RAM. That's not actually disabling any interface functionality too- just like wireless zero config and some file system stuff.

 

I was given a free license for Vista Ultra, and it's been sitting on a shelf for years now because it sucked so much when I tried it.

 

While I'm at it I'd like to debunk two popular claims by Best Buy grade geeks:

1. Rootkit researchers can/have loaded unsigned drivers/kernel code on updated XP and Vista systems. They can be hooked and injected from user land still too.

 

2. Virtualization isn't limited to Vista, AMD-V and Intel-VT can be disabled in a BIOS though(it actually prevents ring -1 malicous code.) There are not many solutions outside security and virtual machines that use it currently.

 

You're an idiot. Vista is superior in any way compared to that old piece of sh*t XP. XP is 8 years old for christ sake! Move on. XP doesn't handle dual and quad cores as well as vista, it doesn't have DX10, it utilizes free RAM memory in a very smart way, it looks about a million times better, and it is much less safe/hacker proof. These are all facts that can't be denied. If you think Vista sucks, it's because:

 

1) you're too dumb to figure out to use it properly

2) your computer is a piece of sh*t

3) both 1 and 2 at the same time (probably you)

 

 

1. XP isn't obsolete, they just don't release service packs anymore. I downloaded some December 1 drivers, and a XML core update just 48 hours ago.

 

2. My machine will be current for the next 3 years; at least.

 

3. You probably don't even know the difference between the 9.0C and DirectX 10 API. Even if you do you're probably too much of a mouth breather to code in any low level programming language, and have no idea what any of it means in a software engineering context.

 

4. Enlighten me on how Vista is more secure, or even what additions it has that give that impression. I followed it's entire development process, and even talked to some of the open source developers they contacted to work on it. I'm actually more secure and stable(comparatively) with XP x64 using group polices and DEP.

 

5. BS on the RAM utilization. It uses the same process queue algorithms, and it also shows you it's sloppy when it comes to efficiency just in task manager; no need to do any digging.

 

6. I installed Royal Noire on XP, I know what Vista looks like; whoopee.

 

7. It's not me. If it is, it doesn't show in my pay checks. I configure embedded infrastructures all the time that run everything from OpenVMS to OpenBSD and Fedora 10, Vista is noobware(which is why it's on shelves at walmart..and your PC)

 

8. MS Kernels utilize dual core in the context of execution threads, both on XP and vista. There are actually engineering specs published on it.

Lol, Owned...

[eksekseksg3]

I've only read the first page or so of this thread, but I installed GTA IV perfectly fine on Windows XP 64-bit, I didn't even need to change any compatibility things or anything, it installed normally.

 

Now, I can't really say the same for the gameplay, after about 10 minutes textures start to disappear left and right, and I can't really do anything about it but reload my last save game or just restart GTA.

[DIRTYDUNKY]

I've only read the first page or so of this thread, but I installed GTA IV perfectly fine on Windows XP 64-bit, I didn't even need to change any compatibility things or anything, it installed normally.

 

Now, I can't really say the same for the gameplay, after about 10 minutes textures start to disappear left and right, and I can't really do anything about it but reload my last save game or just restart GTA.

i have the exact same problem

works fine on XP64 just texture issue which is effecting all OS's

i got mine from steam

installed fine

boots fine

 

i used cacheboost from systweaks for a temp fix but my trial ran out

 

so i cant play anymore again for more than 10 minutes

but i DO NOT crash to desktop and i DO NOT have error messages

i run Windows XP 64 bit v2003 SP2 (there is no SP3 for x64 but that doesnt matter for GTAIV)

[udedenkz]

Hello!! Hello!! Coming Through! Coming Through! Watch Out! Xcuse Me!

 

XP64 Pros,

- Higher Memory Limit Than XP32 - Although XP32 is M$ limited and NOT hardware limited

- 64-bit applications usually crunch numbers faster - 7Zip 64 > 7Zip32

- 32-bit applications work at around 98-102% performance

- Slightly faster

- You are actually using your CPU's potential a bit more this way.

- Less Viruses and Stuff Will Work

 

XP64 Cons,

- 98% performance might annoy someone...'

- 16-bit installers and applications don't work - although they could if M$ would put in extra work - Some of these apps are pretty useful

- Drivers Sometimes Missing.

 

Vista64 Pros,

- Higher Memory Limit Than V32 - Although V32 is M$ limited and NOT hardware limited

- 64-bit applications usually run faster - 7Zip 64 > 7 Zip 32 for example

- 32-bit applications performance varies but almost identical if not better than 32-bit Vista

- Slightly Faster Obviously

- Less Viruses and Stuff Will Work

 

Vista64 Cons,

- Slightly Worse Performance Might Annoy You

- 16-bit applications don't work - blame M$

- Easier to find drivers for 32-bit

 

XP vs Vista - XP Pros / Vista Cons,

- Much Smaller Memory Footprint than Vista - try making Vista run on 75MB of RAM (With drivers)

- Consumes Considerably Less Hard Drive Space - More Space For Porno or Games or Whatever Else - 2/3GB vs 5/8GB

- Runs about everything - stable - good drivers - Vista has some issues with software that XP can run without problems

- You will get Hardware Accelerated Sound which equals better performance - On vista, good luck.

- Overall faster and less bulky than Vista (highly noticeable on older systems) - In general, everything that runs on both Operating Systems will run faster on XP

 

XP vs Vista - Vista Pros / XP Cons,

- Interface look pretty cool in Vista - XPs is more simple

- There are a few games that use DX10 which is Vista only, that is if you care

- Automatic Update / Driver Update is pretty nice feature

- More joe the plumber friendly GUI

 

Thank You! Bye Bye!

[FazZfilmz]

 

Vista64 Cons,

- Slightly Worse Performance Might Annoy You

- 16-bit applications don't work - blame M$

- Easier to find drivers for 32-bit

1. The drop in performance is either due to the age of the software or typically is the lack of REAL/MODERN support from developers, take Adobe CS3 to CS4 for example, its huge improvement, which isn't even fully 64bit, but takes great advantage of it when available.

 

2. Who the HELL is 'still' using 16bit applications?! ...Hardly a con?

 

3. 32bit drivers have always worked fine on Vista x64 and when 64 bit drivers are available or developed eventually it usually makes an improvement in performance but more important it's much more stable.

 

In favour of us (the users) against M$, I would agree that your first con and only your first con is partially correct. I'd hope more developers on the Windows platform would embrace 64 bit, but most just see it as secondary to anything. You could say it's down to the us the users too, as developers are doing this for money (mostly) and not for free, so targeting the mass users would be most profitable which are still probably using technology of 10 years ago such as 32 bit OS's.

[udedenkz]

 

Vista64 Cons,

- Slightly Worse Performance Might Annoy You

- 16-bit applications don't work - blame M$

- Easier to find drivers for 32-bit

1. The drop in performance is either due to the age of the software or typically is the lack of REAL/MODERN support from developers, take Adobe CS3 to CS4 for example, its huge improvement, which isn't even fully 64bit, but takes great advantage of it when available.

 

2. Who the HELL is 'still' using 16bit applications?! ...Hardly a con?

 

3. 32bit drivers have always worked fine on Vista x64 and when 64 bit drivers are available or developed eventually it usually makes an improvement in performance but more important it's much more stable.

 

In favour of us (the users) against M$, I would agree that your first con and only your first con is partially correct. I'd hope more developers on the Windows platform would embrace 64 bit, but most just see it as secondary to anything. You could say it's down to the us the users too, as developers are doing this for money (mostly) and not for free, so targeting the mass users would be most profitable which are still probably using technology of 10 years ago such as 32 bit OS's.

 

1) 32bit applications running in a 64-bit environment - performance is pretty much the same - unless they of course have some extended abilities with 64-bit systems - unless they are recent applications or care they do not take any advantage of 64-bit.

 

2) Installers for 32-bit applications mostly. Also some things refuse to run in a 64-bit environment regardless. PageDefrag is one of them, need to find a 64-bit alternative.

 

3) What? You need a 64-bit driver for a 64-bit OS or you are screwed or will use a generic driver which probably will not give good performance for you. Drivers might be less of a problem with newer systems and with Vista automatically installing drivers for you.

 

Link

 

 

Yes, all hardware devices need 64-bit drivers to work on a 64-bit version of Windows. To learn how to check for drivers, see Update a driver for hardware that isn't working properly or go to the device manufacturer's website. You can also get information about drivers by going to the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor website.

 

Additionally, some 32-bit programs might use embedded 32-bit drivers, which might make the programs work improperly.

[uthead9]

i have recently installed iv onto my windows XP professional 64-bit.

 

i have registered it and put in my serial but when i go to launch all that happens is it flashes the thing that looks like a command prompt and nothing happens

 

please if anyone could please help i wanna play

[TruXter]

Service pack 2

 

[uthead9]

yep

[copperwire93]

Wait a little longer, click play on RGSC, insert disc 1 try all three

Don't close RGSC.exe

Edited January 17, 2009 by copperwire93

[uthead9]

already thought of that and done it multipul times along with restarting many times

[mr_munch]

don't you need to have service pack 3 for windows xp?

[copperwire93]

don't you need to have service pack 3 for windows xp?

It's 64bit XP dude... the highest Service Pack is 2, there's no SP3

[villin]

I guess this means... x64 is not supported?

 

x64 is garbage anyway just throw it out. I bought it but dont use it.

[TruXter]

I've had it working on xp 64.

Runs just as crummy as xp 32.

 

[DaLexy]

You have to install Framework 2.0, 3.5, Visual C++ Runtimes for 2005 and 2008 instead of SP2.

 

This schould do the trick as it does for me !

[copperwire93]

If all fail, revert to 32bit

[wesley123]

GTA4 requires sp3, so theres the problem i guess.

[DaLexy]

No, as i allready said:

 

 

You have to install Framework 2.0, 3.5, Visual C++ Runtimes for 2005 and 2008 instead of SP2.

 

This schould do the trick as it does for me !

 

And im running XP x64 Pro !