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@cshmech - Overclocking is the process of forcing a component, usually a CPU, to run at a faster clock speed than usual.

Will that overclocking help my FPS in game?

Will it affect performance in other applications? How is it done?

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@lpgunit, Can you give us a budget and a site that you prefer to buy PC components from?

About $120~130 US. I'll buy it at a nearby store... I already have a processor to play with (a C2D @ 2.2Ghz, not really that powerful but may probably do), but my current card and RAM sucks...

Don't buy it at store. They're a rip off. Unless you're gonna go to Circuit City and take advantage of their going out of business sale.

 

I bought thiscard at Newegg.com. But it looks like this. The card is infact a 9800GT even though it looks like a 9600GT. It was $149.00 when I bought a month and a half ago. It went down $5.00 a few days later.

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Nope it doesn't involve anything physical with the hardware.

 

Read this guide to learn how to overclock.

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I bought thiscard at Newegg.com. But it looks like this. The card is infact a 9800GT even though it looks like a 9600GT. It was $149.00 when I bought a month and a half ago. It went down $5.00 a few days later.

 

Any hints on how will it run GTA IV? Oh, and I'm from the Philippines, and the only option for me to buy things is to buy from one of the many shops nearest to my place...

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Definitely upgrade to 2GB RAM atleast to run IV. And the 8800GT is an awesome card, you'll be able to run IV pretty damn well.

 

If you can push a little more though, get the 9800GTX or 9800GTX+.

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Definitely upgrade to 2GB RAM atleast to run IV. And the 8800GT is an awesome card, you'll be able to run IV pretty damn well.

 

If you can push a little more though, get the 9800GTX or 9800GTX+.

OK, here's my target config:

 

* Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2.2Ghz

* Nvidia GeForce 8800GT/9800GT

* 2GB DDR2 - 667Mhz (or better)

 

Don't have much moolah for now; I only have enough to buy another gigabyte of RAM...

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No point in getting a 9800GT is it's more expensive than a 8800GT. So if the 8800GT is cheaper, get that.

 

That rig should run IV fine, just try to get DDR2 800 RAM as they aren't much more expensive at all and you have more overclocking potential with faster RAM.

 

Oh and definitely overclock that CPU. You should be able to get it to 3GHz or more easily. The clock speed is really too low to run IV well.

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Definitely upgrade to 2GB RAM atleast to run IV. And the 8800GT is an awesome card, you'll be able to run IV pretty damn well.

 

If you can push a little more though, get the 9800GTX or 9800GTX+.

OK, here's my target config:

 

* Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2.2Ghz

* Nvidia GeForce 8800GT/9800GT

* 2GB DDR2 - 667Mhz (or better)

 

Don't have much moolah for now; I only have enough to buy another gigabyte of RAM...

I have a pretty much identical setup to that; and while the game does run slowly, it is playable.

 

Depending on your resolution settings, you'll be able to enjoy it without it looking atrocious.

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How to do over-clocking? Does it involve medilling with hardwares?

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Its all made in the BIOS.

 

as long as your PSU is not a cheap no-name one and as long as you dont play with the voltages you cant damage anything easily. But just to make sure, read some guides on the net.

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Well, I can only run at medium, however my specs is: Core2duo, 2,4 GHz (running on 2600 MHz), 4 GB ram, and a GTX 295 (Which is about 1,8 GB mem or whatnot )

I doubt people can say that is a "old computer", maybe it would be better with 8 GB ram, however I really doubt that.

I'm blaming bad port.

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Well, I can only run at medium, however my specs is: Core2duo, 2,4 GHz (running on 2600 MHz), 4 GB ram, and a GTX 295 (Which is about 1,8 GB mem or whatnot )

I doubt people can say that is a "old computer", maybe it would be better with 8 GB ram, however I really doubt that.

I'm blaming bad port.

Your Core 2 Duo is bottlenecking your GTX 295. Unless you have a quad-core processor clocked at 3ghz, you won't see the full benefit of the 295 in GTA IV.

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Definitely upgrade to 2GB RAM atleast to run IV.

I've noticed that GTA IV uses at least 1.2 GB of RAM. If you're running Vista - which takes up another 1 GB - it looks like you really need 3GB!

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I'm planning a new rig:

Motherboard:

Asus P5Q-E Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard £115

 

CPU

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 2 x 3.00Ghz 6Mb Cache 1333 FSB Dual Core Processor £150.00 (

 

RAM:

OCZ Reaper HPC 2GB (2x2GB) DDR2 PC-8500C5 1066MHz Dual Channel Kit £59.00

 

Power:

Corsair 650w ultraquiet- £79

 

Optional cooling: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Socket 775 CPU4 £20.70

 

 

 

With a possible of 3 Graphics Cards:

EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX+ "Superclocked" 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (512-P3-E884-AR)- http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....rodid=GX-083-EA

Powercolor ATI Radeon HD 4870 PCS Extreme 512MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail (AX-4870512MD5-PPH)

- http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....d=56&subcat=939

Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail (11133-00-20)- http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....d=56&subcat=939

 

I am getting it from that site, so please don't suggest alternatives, I would just like a straightforward "this will run GTA at medium settings" or "that won't run GTA".

 

Graphics card wise- Which do I choose? Straight choice between those three please.

 

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That rig will run IV fine. Go with any of the 4870s though, the 1`GB version would be WAY better for a game such as IV which eats VRAM like hell.

 

But if you give a budget, I can try and get you a better deal than that.

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Intel core 2 quad CPU

Q6600 @ 2.40GHZ

2.40 GHz, 3.00 GB of RAM

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im aware that another question like this is unbearable but i have no clue with computers so.

should this work quite well?

 

erm im confused about the Q6600 part, because when i run the benchmark program im told i have a 8800 gtx :S

help would be appreciated

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Intel core 2 quad CPU

Q6600 @ 2.40GHZ

2.40 GHz, 3.00 GB of RAM

physical address extension

 

im aware that another question like this is unbearable but i have no clue with computers so.

should this work quite well?

 

erm im confused about the Q6600 part, because when i run the benchmark program im told i have a 8800 gtx :S

help would be appreciated

Just to be clear, the Q6600 is your Intel CPU (processor), while the 8800 gtx is your graphics/video card.

 

I'm running GTA IV with the exact same CPU, the same amount of memory but with a a slightly higher-end video card (Radeon HD4870), and it's acceptable; 20-35 fps most of the time. GTA IV seems to be very CPU-intensive, so I don't think your video card should make too much of a difference to that score.

 

If I was you, I'd give it a shot; it mightn't be the smoothest game I've seen running on my machine, but its still a whole lot of fun. Just get a good defraging program and make sure that no unwanted programs are running in the background when you run.

 

Hope that helps,

 

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Intel core 2 quad CPU

Q6600 @ 2.40GHZ

2.40 GHz, 3.00 GB of RAM

physical address extension

 

im aware that another question like this is unbearable but i have no clue with computers so.

should this work quite well?

 

erm im confused about the Q6600 part, because when i run the benchmark program im told i have a 8800 gtx :S

help would be appreciated

That PC should run IV very well. You have a great processor, enough RAM (though 4GB is best) and a great video card. You're all set mate smile.gif.

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hm for some reason it seems quite choppy some times and nice the next minute the screen goes all pink and massive

really strange ive never had it happen before,

 

what settings should i be running it on?

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Processor P8600 core2duo @2.4GHz

4 gig ram

NVidia Geforce 9600 GT

42" LCD tv as monitor via vga plug

 

I am having alot of lag during gameplayer and I cannot go above 800x600 75hz or it will crash or have a very low frame rate. I have a hdmi output in computer and input on tv, would that solve it? Any other suggestions would be great until I get the hdmi cable too. My TV can have modes: 800x600 @60/75Hz, 1024x768 @60/70/75Hz, 1280x1024 @60Hz, the actual number of pixels the tv has is 1366x768.

 

Is it possible to make a boot cd that will load only the stuff needed for GTA Iv to run so it will run the best it can?

 

BTW, should try the game with a big tv its great in races, nearly fall off the seat going around corners.

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Statistics

Average FPS: 10.63

Duration: 36.87 sec

CPU Usage: 92%

System memory usage: 82%

Video memory usage: 79%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: Medium

Render Quality: Very High

Reflection Resolution: High

Water Quality: Very High

Shadow Quality: High

View Distance: 24

Detail Distance: 100

Definition: Off

VSync: On

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

Service Pack 3

Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series

Video Driver version: 6.14.10.6903

Audio Adapter: USB Multi-Channel Audio Device

Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.40GHz

 

File ID: benchmark.cli

 

I would like to have help to determine what the weak part of my equipment is

which only gives the game acces to 496 Mb

i just buyed this Radeon EAH4850 and its basicly no difference in the just above mb value

as it was on my previous Geforce 8600 GTS TDH

can realy this winter's testwinner monocle.gif "EAH4850" be to weak to give access to texture quality=wery high, & view distance=100 suicidal.gif

 

is it possible to owerclock a graphic card to gain resourches Mb points? orly.gif can i do anything to atleast increase the FPS to over 10

 

Add: 2 Gb system ram

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Your processor is what's holding you back. With your processor, there is NO way that you can get decent FPS with maxed or even high settings.

 

Upgrade your processor. If you give us a budget, I can get the best possible wink.gif.

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Your processor is what's holding you back. With your processor, there is NO way that you can get decent FPS with maxed or even high settings.

 

Upgrade your processor. If you give us a budget, I can get the best possible wink.gif.

I see, damn i was convinced that 3.40GHz was still enough for todays modern games moto_whistle.gif

 

i have no idea what a processor upgrade goes on today accually alien.gif

how mutch GHz do you recomend for high fps here?

amd or intel? or any other technical values i shall search for?

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Your processor is what's holding you back. With your processor, there is NO way that you can get decent FPS with maxed or even high settings.

 

Upgrade your processor. If you give us a budget, I can get the best possible wink.gif.

I see, damn i was convinced that 3.40GHz was still enough for todays modern games moto_whistle.gif

 

i have no idea what a processor upgrade goes on today accually alien.gif

how mutch GHz do you recomend for high fps here?

amd or intel? or any other technical values i shall search for?

A Core 2 Duo or a Quad-core processor at 3.40 ghz will destroy GTAIV. You have a Pentium 4 which is now severely outdated. If you a LGA 775 socket for your motherboard, an e8400 Core 2 Duo or a Q6600 (or higher model depending on your budget), should be enough to run GTAIV.

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My system results in benchmarks of about 20-35 fps (those values are highly variable).In interiors, I manage to get upto 40-45 fps at the default settings suggested by the game for my system.I have a few doubts though.

 

1.Which OS is better to run GTA IV?Windows Vista SP1 or Windows Xp SP3?

2.My display driver version is 181.22 downloaded from nvidia's website.Should I still opt for the 180.xx beta drivers released by nvidia optimized for GTA IV or are these drivers better than the beta drivers?

 

[P.S.:I apologise if my English is not upto the mark]

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  • 2 weeks later...

Excuse me if this has been asked before, but after screwing around with the graphics settings today in an attempt squeeze out as much frames as possible with minimal quality loss, I noticed that car deformation and euphoria seemed to become more responsive (also running the AMD Fusion utility in the bacground for the first time).

 

So my question is rather simple really. Do the euphoria and car deformation effects upscale with performance (aka. does more available video memory and CPU clock cycles provide some kind of a 'boost').

 

Rolling a car around really flattened the roof when usually I seem get nothing but some dents and scratches. It could be the extra frames making everything seem better but I'm curious...

 

EDIT: I'm running the game with AMD 64 6000+ and ATI 4850 512mb OC with 3Gb RAM if it matters.

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  • 2 weeks later...

i been reading many post in this thread, i watched this video, where shows a bug/glitch in the pc version, which makes the game faster, and in the description of the video i read this:

 

Update #1:

The high framerate seems to be caused by the fact that the environment was not reflected on the street and the cars. So the reflections are possibly the frame-eating bastard. You can't lower them or turn them off in the options.

 

So, there is any patch(a non official from rockstar) or way to deactive this feature on the game? anybody tried to do that?

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