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Graphical Performance Readme


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I'm pretty sure the settings were only removed from sight in the options and so, I think it might be possible to force it through command lines.

 

Anyone willing to try these? My card got f*cked up and is getting RMAed so I can't try it out.

 

Add in commandline.txt:

 

-shadowquality=(0-4)

-reflectionquality=(0-4)

-waterquality=(0-4)

 

Try them out and report back, might work.

 

Btw, THESE AREN'T OFFICIAL OR ANYTHING. I'M JUST TAKING A WILD GUESS HERE.

IT IS WORKING!!!!!

THE GAME RUNS NOW FINE!!!! THE WATER LOOKS UGLY NOW ;D

I have done this: -reflectionquality 1 -waterquality 1 -shadowquality 1

 

ITS WORKING THE WATER IS NOW MUCH MORE BLUE OF COLOR AND LOOKS MOR E UNREALISTIC!!!!

BUT I HAVE NOW 3 fps more!!!

 

IM GONAN post a picture

ahahaha lol))

 

PLACEBO EFFECT))) he gave u non existing commands and u make yourself to believe they work, believe u have 3fps boost and that quality of picture have changed)))

 

BRAVO!!

 

 

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I'll pin it for now, it might calm things down a bit (yeah right I really am not looking forward to getting up tomorrow when the Europeans have the game).

 

Going to change the topic title too if the TC doesn't mind.

Maybe GTA IV is racist to Americans and you'll have no problems from Europeans? J/k. :p

bosss..

i recently installed gta 4 in my pic i hav 1.5gb ram, 8500nvidia graphic card, intel motherboard, 30gb hardrive extra space for gme ..

after installling it .

the gme start running bt the problem is that while i play gme the screen start shaking..

or swinging..

kindly helpme out..

my mail id is [email protected]

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I'll pin it for now, it might calm things down a bit (yeah right I really am not looking forward to getting up tomorrow when the Europeans have the game).

 

Going to change the topic title too if the TC doesn't mind.

Maybe GTA IV is racist to Americans and you'll have no problems from Europeans? J/k. tounge.gif

bosss..

i recently installed gta 4 in my pic i hav 1.5gb ram, 8500nvidia graphic card, intel motherboard, 30gb hardrive extra space for gme ..

after installling it .

the gme start running bt the problem is that while i play gme the screen start shaking..

or swinging..

kindly helpme out..

my mail id is [email protected]l.com

here is how to fix it: http://www.gamingfix.whut/fix-gta-camera-o...-card-with.html

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I'll pin it for now, it might calm things down a bit (yeah right I really am not looking forward to getting up tomorrow when the Europeans have the game).

 

Going to change the topic title too if the TC doesn't mind.

Maybe GTA IV is racist to Americans and you'll have no problems from Europeans? J/k. tounge.gif

bosss..

i recently installed gta 4 in my pic i hav 1.5gb ram, 8500nvidia graphic card, intel motherboard, 30gb hardrive extra space for gme ..

after installling it .

the gme start running bt the problem is that while i play gme the screen start shaking..

or swinging..

kindly helpme out..

my mail id is [email protected]

 

Buy yourself a legal copy. The camera shake is the copy protection.

 

 

Lol @ chngdman tounge.gif

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Then can you please tell us if there are commands to adjust these settings?

Looks like they take those out too badd man angry.gif

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DAMN, is there any guy who has this version of gta iv?! ANSWER MEE ph34r.gifangry.gif sorry but im rly confused about this sh*t. sad.gif

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Its a BETA version that had these features, so i think C* removed the features in all of the final versions of the game before being released.

 

Leave it to Cockstar to f*ck up a game intentionally dozingoff.gif.

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They're basically trying to prevent their support staff having to deal with thousands of irate customers, who don't seem to realise that their 5 year old PC can't run the game on maximum settings! But, as with most people, reading appears to be an art that they have yet to master.

The problem with that oversimplified and inaccurate interpretation is that even systems comfortably above the minimum requirements will stutter and suffer consistently low framerates at the auto-detect configured settings and even considerably lower settings than those.

 

If the game runs badly at the settings which are supposed to be optimal for your hardware profile... then the makers simply screwed up. I have settings right now that are lower than what the game recommended for me (using a computer in excess of the recommended requirements except for a 2.13ghz dual core, which is less than recommended), with nothing else hogging resources in the background either, and framerates are still consistently sluggish enough that they make it hard to aim a weapon or identify a fast-moving car.

 

That is not a failure to understand the developer's intent on my part. It's a failure to polish a game engine on the developer's part. Let's not develop Stockholm Syndrome, akin to assuming that we are imbeciles because we look at an unfinished job and don't think of it as a professional piece of work. Of course it's finished, we're just too dumb to appreciate the purpose behind its flaws! No... no, I don't think so.

 

Hopefully there will be some optimizations in coming patches, but I wouldn't expect anything major. The engine has simply been poorly handled and that's too involved an overhaul to be worthwhile fixing in a free patch. Therefore, we're screwed and left with something that demands more resources than is strictly necessary and then utilizes them ineffectually; to a result which causes gameplay to suffer and become more difficult, sadly.

 

Conversely also consider that the game stutters and suffers low framerates on the PS3 and Xbox versions where the developer knew the exact hardware that people would be using and simply managed to avoid optimizing the game to run smoothly on those versions, either. This does set a fairly consistent precedent that someone in charge as part of this game consistently failed to value optimization and performance and glossed over the entire subject.

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I just bought GTA IV without realising there were so many problems. However, my specs are well above the recommended 'minimum' (RAM (4GB): Intel core duo, 2.40GHz; NVIDIA 512MB GEFORCE 8600GT) so I thought all would be ok. The game has all of the usual problems (v poor frame rate on default settings, texture losses after 2 mins of playing on lowest possible settings etc.). Except for another 'interesting' fault... For work, I use a statistics package called SPSS (Statistics Package for the Social Sciences), and after a day of fiddling around with GTA I started working again. All of my saved SPSS files (i.e. spreadsheets) were missing the SPSS logo, and when I tried to open them I was prompted to 'insert GTAIV cd 1 to continue'... OH MY EFFING GOD suicidal.gif I thought I'd lost about a months worth of work, all for installing a criminally underdeveloped game on my laptop. Anyway, uninstalled GTA and all is fine...

I am quite new to the world of PC gaming, but seriously, how can a game be so poorly programmed that it actually starts fvcking around with other files on my computer?? Rockstar are, quite literally, legally culpable for releasing this game in its present state. Do they need to re-do the engine? Will they recall the lot and re-release? Why won't they tell anyone what's going on? I really can't believe that anyone would release such an obviously faulty product and then say basically nothing for over a month.

P.S. None of the new NVIDIA drivers work for my card and there's no-way I can be arsed to start re-programming the game (as is suggested on other parts of this forum). I am a 'noob'. Wish I'd held onto my xbox... cryani.gif

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I just bought GTA IV without realising there were so many problems. However, my specs are well above the recommended 'minimum' (RAM (4GB): Intel core duo, 2.40GHz; NVIDIA 512MB GEFORCE 8600GT) so I thought all would be ok. The game has all of the usual problems (v poor frame rate on default settings, texture losses after 2 mins of playing on lowest possible settings etc.). Except for another 'interesting' fault... For work, I use a statistics package called SPSS (Statistics Package for the Social Sciences), and after a day of fiddling around with GTA I started working again. All of my saved SPSS files (i.e. spreadsheets) were missing the SPSS logo, and when I tried to open them I was prompted to 'insert GTAIV cd 1 to continue'... OH MY EFFING GOD suicidal.gif  I thought I'd lost about a months worth of work, all for installing a criminally underdeveloped game on my laptop. Anyway, uninstalled GTA and all is fine...

I am quite new to the world of PC gaming, but seriously, how can a game be so poorly programmed that it actually starts fvcking around with other files on my computer?? Rockstar are, quite literally, legally culpable for releasing this game in its present state. Do they need to re-do the engine? Will they recall the lot and re-release? Why won't they tell anyone what's going on? I really can't believe that anyone would release such an obviously faulty product and then say basically nothing for over a month.   

P.S. None of the new NVIDIA drivers work for my card and there's no-way I can be arsed to start re-programming the game (as is suggested on other parts of this forum). I am a 'noob'. Wish I'd held onto my xbox... cryani.gif

That would likely be a problem caused by SecuROM. It's known for being invasive, and causing unusual conflicts which can affect your OS or even your hardware.

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Well the best fix for me was getting rid of vista and installing xp-sp3. Running the game on vista I was having massive stuttering. Now on xp it runs so smooth. biggrin.gif I have Q6600 2G RAM 8800GTX. Im running high and very high now with good frames.

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dr.strangelove

hi guys,

 

like i said, here are the final benchmarks after overclocking my cpu from 1,86 to 2,66GHz

 

Statistiken

Durchschnittliche FPS: 36.53

Dauer: 37.14 Sek

CPU-Auslastung: 87%

Systemspeicher-Auslastung: 79%

Videospeicher-Auslastung: 98%

 

Grafikeinstellungen

Videomodus: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texturenqualität: Mittel(middle)

Renderqualität: Hoch(high)

Sichtdistanz: 15

Detaildistanz: 25

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Service Pack 3

Grafikkarte: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT

Video-Driver Version: 180.84

Soundkarte: Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio

Intel® Core2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz (actually 2,66GHz)

 

File ID: benchmark.cli

 

i use no commandlines etc., just pure overclocking. although i tried many of the tweaking-guides, the only thing that helped was overclocking.

 

 

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My apologize for my post in a wrong topic.

I was confused with the topictitle.

Again Im sorry sad.gif

 

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Average FPS: 58.11

Duration: 37.57 sec

CPU Usage: 73%

System memory usage: 88%

Video memory usage: 76%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1024 x 768 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: Medium

Render Quality: Very High

View Distance: 29

Detail Distance: 30

 

Hardware

Microsoft® Windows Vista Home Business

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT

Video Driver version: 180.48

Audio Adapter:

Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHZ

 

 

Game runs fine for about 30 minutes then I get memory leak and it stutters now and again, thats why I haven't bothered cranking up the graphic settings. I also get missing textures now and again confused.gif

 

Runs fine in fog and rain too mercie_blink.gif

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dr.strangelove
@dr.strangelove how u overclock i have same processor like u plz tell me plz teach me i'm noob abt overclocking

just higher you fsb (front side bus) in your bios setup of your mainboard. i don't know your mobo manufacturer, so read the manual of you mobo how do this. the highest fsb i can reach is 380, maybe you can get it higher (400).

standard fsb is 266 x 7(thats the multiplier) = 1,86

or type "overclocking e6300" in google to find some more precise guides, its not that complicated, trust me.

!!! but its important to have a good cpu cooler !!!

i don't recommend the boxed intel cooler.

 

 

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can anyone post their original timecyc.dat file?

No they cannot.

We are not a file sharing network.

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timecyc.dat - ain't that a ASCII file and a configuration file at that? Weather Settings?

 

If the answer is yes, I don't see why not - configuration files get passed around all the time as well as information about them. They do not store anything but the settings, so if it is copyright infringement is to tell someone which settings and texture filtering you are using in Fallout 3 or any other game then is it illegal to share such a file. Even some San Andreas mods are just slightly modified configuration files. Or whats the problem?

 

Most of the time they have a .ini extension though.

 

Also, I don't have it ATM though; uninstalled. sad.gif

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It would be great if developers can tell us what system they used to test the game before sending it to market.

 

Somehow, I have a weird feeling that they didn't have enough guys in their Quality Assurance department. Perhaps the finance and marketing department was in hurry to send a poorly tested product in market ASAP for the sweet smell of money.

 

And making games for consoles first is a bad move.

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If it's any consolation, it runs poorly on the consoles, too.

 

I don't own a console, so my experience here is lacking, but I know that games made for consoles are supposed to be configured to run smoothly on the dedicated hardware they're to be run on. Imagine my surprise, then, when playing GTA IV on a friend's PS3 and seeing it stutter and struggle to keep up with the decidedly not-intense action of driving a truck in the rain. I was dismayed.

 

Thankfully the PC version has the advantage that those of us who like having framerates fast enough that motion doesn't appear jerky can turn down settings until we get it. Bad performance in a console game is an embarassment.

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Bad performance in a console game is an embarassment.

lol.gif well put. They know EXACTLY what set of hardware they have, I mean it's not going anywhere development wise.

 

I saw it on my friends PS3. He sees it as a minor thing, but framerate on PS3 seems horrible (as it's not measurable). It's enough to stand and just look around to see everything fall apart - framerate, popup, lag. Ghastly experience.

 

PC version is a bit broken right now, but it's nowhere near the console version lol.gif

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I have ati radeon 2400 pro and 1 gb ram and intel[R]pentium, Dual Cpu E 2140 1.60 ghZ 1.61 ghZ

can I paly gta 4 anyway , on very minimum resulution and low quality

Pls answer me, Thank you !

I will kill my self suicidal.gif if I cant play Gta 4 ;(

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I have ati radeon 2400 pro and 1 gb ram and intel[R]pentium, Dual Cpu E 2140 1.60 ghZ 1.61 ghZ

can I paly gta 4 anyway , on very minimum resulution and low quality

Pls answer me, Thank you !

I will kill my self suicidal.gif if I cant play Gta 4 ;(

no way man. not a chance

 

sorry blush.gif

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I have ati radeon 2400 pro and 1 gb ram and intel[R]pentium, Dual Cpu E 2140 1.60 ghZ 1.61 ghZ

can I paly gta 4 anyway , on very minimum resulution and low quality

Pls answer me, Thank you !

I will kill my self  suicidal.gif  if I cant play Gta 4 ;(

no way man. not a chance

 

sorry blush.gif

ofhh I can play gta 4 on my computer but its auto resulution 800/600 and all low quality,,, and sometimes I cant see rouds cars and other bulding,,,, ;( ...... I watched video on youtube and its rly amazing graphic icon14.gificon14.gificon14.gifbiggrin.gif --great pc u have.....

now help me pls .... My friend have Very high pc and he want to play gta 4 but he dont have internet on his computer..... Pls can u say me can he play gta 4 and if he have did he must get some specyfic crack to play it Thank you man! confused.gif

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Well,the game's gotten pretty dark without setting anything up or down.I needed to turn up brightness,contrast and saturation MORE to get the same visual quality as before.The game runs a bit smoother but nothing big.Sad that 2 months wasn't nearly enough for a proper optimization "fix"Not only the patch,but two drivers also add to this so maybe the patch didn't do so much,it was the drivers.Oh,and when i turn shadow quality to med or low the shadows start to flicker.That was no problem before.At least they threw a bone to the dogs they call "customers" who support them....

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SLI is currently supported after Title Update 1 is applied and Nvidia driver 180.84 is used.

hurrray !

any comments, guys ?

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