dr.strangelove Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 hi guys, there is a thing that helped to gain 10 to 15fps more. and its overclocking the cpu. i got a e6300 @ 1.87 benchmark results Statistiken Durchschnittliche FPS: 22.84 (!!!) Dauer: 37.05 Sek CPU-Auslastung: 86% Systemspeicher-Auslastung: 91% Videospeicher-Auslastung: 92% Grafikeinstellungen Videomodus: 1152 x 720 (60 Hz) (!!!) Texturenqualität: Mittel Renderqualität: Mittel Sichtdistanz: 20 Detaildistanz: 24 Hardware Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 Grafikkarte: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT Video-Driver Version: 180.43 Soundkarte: Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Intel® Core2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz File ID: Benchmark.cli ----------------------------- after overclocking to 2.33GHZ ----------------------------- Statistiken Durchschnittliche FPS: 36.46 (!!!) Dauer: 37.19 Sek CPU-Auslastung: 87% Systemspeicher-Auslastung: 79% Videospeicher-Auslastung: 98% Grafikeinstellungen Videomodus: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) (!!!) Texturenqualität: Mittel Renderqualität: Mittel Sichtdistanz: 12 Detaildistanz: 20 Hardware Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 Grafikkarte: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT Video-Driver Version: 180.84 Soundkarte: Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Intel® Core2 CPU 6300 @ 2.33GHz File ID: benchmark.cli so the only thing i changed was the view distance from 20 to 12 and the res from 1152 x 720 to 1680 x 1050 (i need this res, other ones are too ugly on a 22") and gained some serious fps. so if ur able to overclock your cpu - do it! tomorrow im going to buy new ram. now i have 2gb 667, and im gonna get 2gb corsair 800, as a consequence i will be able to overclock to 2.8 GHZ without changing voltage. by the way i use a brand new noctua u12p to cool down my cpu - great cooling and silent, but its expensive (~50€). after 3hours of playing i got only 48C°. and i hear nothing. again great cpu cooler. so im going to post my fps after the next overclocking step. greetings dr. strangelove p.s. sorry for my bad english, but as u noticed (german benchmark results) im from austria if u want more infos about the cpu cooler --> http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc2PGEz4q5o http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1259/noct...12p_cpu_cooler/ http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=product...ts_id=14&lng=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.strangelove Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 (edited) can someone please help me with this? i have a 512 mb graphic card, but gta iv only recognizes 426 mb, and sometimes 464. i don't have any other programs running, so i don't know what the problem is. i'm using xp by the way. anyone? thats normal, trust me. u will never have 512mb of video ram, cause theres always something using vram. so don't panic, its absolutely normal Edited December 28, 2008 by dr.strangelove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayushisrocking Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Good call. Of DUTY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZorro Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Is there any option that disables shadows completely ?? I have shadow density to lowest but i still see shadow like trees and cars how do i turn those of ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meki Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I tried the new driver 185.20 today and it was the first time possible for me to run the benchmark. So I would just to write it down here, maye to compare different systems between each other: Statistiken Durchschnittliche FPS: 44.92 Dauer: 37.20 Sek CPU-Auslastung: 77% Systemspeicher-Auslastung: 35% Videospeicher-Auslastung: 90% Grafikeinstellungen Videomodus: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texturenqualität: Hoch Renderqualität: Maximum Sichtdistanz: 27 Detaildistanz: 54 Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium Service Pack 1 Grafikkarte: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 Video-Driver Version: 185.20 Soundkarte: Lautsprecher (Creative SB X-Fi) Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz File ID: Benchmark.cli edit: oh sorry, wron thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggeo Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 The end HAS to be this: NEVER make a lousy port and then claim that it is a next-gen game. Why? First, it is a port from a CONSOLE version. IE an inferior system. Second, you NEVER EVER write software for next year's computer. It's a bad business idea. Because people will have forgotten about the game, or moved on to the newer games, when the computers are ready..... (not that this game IS a next-gen. If anything, it's actually a previous-gen with a beefed up graphics engine - which is then supposed to make use of the graphics card!) Well you read my post wrong. I was sarcastic when I said that next generation CPU will play it right. Was from the first in here I said that was a bad port and a console game. Any developer wich build a game for PC build it upon any new a PC can give and that mean, SLI, AA, AF, etc. But the game doesn't support AA and SLI. Doesn't support any controller. Unless you have an XBOX controller so you can configure it right. I was wrote in another topic that I prefare a new release build it from the scratch and build on a new engine just for PCs anf I will buy it. But patch a console port to make it playable on PCs I don't know if it's something I like. I mean we can wait a new version of PS emulator wich can emulate games from PS3 and play PS3 version opn the PC. Like we did with Geand Turismo I & II, USING PS EMU. But not exactly I call PC games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggeo Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) The end HAS to be this: NEVER make a lousy port and then claim that it is a next-gen game. Why? First, it is a port from a CONSOLE version. IE an inferior system. Second, you NEVER EVER write software for next year's computer. It's a bad business idea. Because people will have forgotten about the game, or moved on to the newer games, when the computers are ready..... (not that this game IS a next-gen. If anything, it's actually a previous-gen with a beefed up graphics engine - which is then supposed to make use of the graphics card!) Well you read my post wrong. I was sarcastic when I said that next generation CPU will play it right. Was from the first in here I said that was a bad port and a console game. Any developer wich build a game for PC build it upon any new a PC can give and that mean, SLI, AA, AF, etc. But the game doesn't support AA and SLI. Doesn't support any controller. Unless you have an XBOX controller so you can configure it right. I was wrote in another topic that I prefare a new release build it from the scratch and build on a new engine just for PCs anf I will buy it. But patch a console port to make it playable on PCs I don't know if it's something I like. I mean we can wait a new version of PS emulator wich can emulate games from PS3 and play PS3 version opn the PC. Like we did with Geand Turismo I & II, USING PS EMU. But not exactly I call PC games. Sorry for doub\le post but I don't know how that happened. A moderator can delete it, Edited January 2, 2009 by biggeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Guys, in need your attention ( Especialy GERMANS Attention) Can anyone who have german version confirm that it have additional Settings available??? Is it look like this for you guys?? Can you see the difference with this one shot? As far as i know German and dutch langs i can see that german version have 3 additional settings that was never seen in english or russian versions. 1) Water quallity (Wasserqualitat) 2) Reflection something (Reflektionsuflosung) 3) Dont know what probably Sharpness or Shatter (Shattenqualitat) Please anyone confirm if this screenshot is real!! It may be mod\memory hack (but i doubt because it was posted in 1st day of reales, mods and hacks cannot be created so fast) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seregas2001 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Voodooman: need a German edition They probably 'unofficial patch' or other 'commandline.txt' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iYateszy Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) Statistics Average FPS: 6.78 Duration: 39.39 sec CPU Usage: 68% System memory usage: 83% Video memory usage: 91% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1024 x 768 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Low Render Quality: Medium View Distance: 1 Detail Distance: 1 Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS Video Driver version: 101.38 Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) Intel® Core2 Duo CPU T7300 @ 2.00GHz File ID: benchmark.cli Sh*t, and I thought this was a decent gaming laptop. Time to start saving for a new PC. Edited January 3, 2009 by iYateszy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heat84 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) According to Google's translator: texturenqualität=Texture quality schatten=shadow wasserqualität=water quality reflektionsauflösung=lightwave resolution renderqualität=rendertime quality It wouldn't translate vollbild. According to Wiktionary it means fullscreen. Maybe that's actually aspect ratio? An translates to to(as in 4 to 3) How does mo analyzer mean benchmark? I understand the analyzer part, but mo? Google's translator doesn't even know what to do with that. I can't believe there's no Germans around here. Or at least someone that took or is taking High School German. I took Spanish and only passed because the teacher liked me(no not in the hot for teacher way). Google seems to be confused when I translate aspect ratio to German. aspect=Aspekt ratio=Verhältnis aspect ratio=Seitenverhältnis Seiten translated to English=pages Edited January 3, 2009 by heat84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Guys, in need your attention ( Especialy GERMANS Attention) Can anyone who have german version confirm that it have additional Settings available??? Is it look like this for you guys?? Can you see the difference with this one shot? As far as i know German and dutch langs i can see that german version have 3 additional settings that was never seen in english or russian versions. 1) Water quallity (Wasserqualitat) 2) Reflection something (Reflektionsuflosung) 3) Dont know what probably Sharpness or Shatter (Shattenqualitat) Please anyone confirm if this screenshot is real!! It may be mod\memory hack (but i doubt because it was posted in 1st day of reales, mods and hacks cannot be created so fast) DUDE as i said there are only 3 new options, and i listed them all, all the others that i dont listed not point of my interest. thx for correcting what schatten mean (shadows) because i was thinking its car damage (shatter) or alpha sharpening aka noise grain that makes shadows and trees and some semi-transparent surfaces look ugly. about render and reflektion qulitat its no need to be translated by google because its clearly visible what these options mean (lol @[email protected] ROFL). vollbild is screen aspect ratio, MO analyzer is Autoconfiguration of optimal settings, mabstat is benchmark, but i didnt translated this all in original post because its easy to understand and these options exist in international version of GTA 4. I didnt asked for anyone who KNOW GERMAN because i dont need translator, i asked for anyone WHO HAVE GERMAN VERSION OF GTA 4 AND CAN CONFIRM IF THESE OPTIONS PRESENT IN GAME OR NOT. GUYS with german version: PLEASE UPLOAD SOMEWHERE YOUR GTAIV.EXE, LAUNCHGTA4.EXE, paul.dll, GTAIV.exe.cat, GTAIV.exe.cfg, gta4Browser.exe, (and probably other dll and exe files from game directory except gameux helper live helper and firewall installer and bink 32) and post links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Strange... now i found this Its really strange... this ( i mean latest screenshot) probably may be not german version but Multi 5 that include german lang as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taphiriel Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) First, sry for my bad english, my last English lesson was 10 years ago The Screen above is not an original Menu from the German Version. This MO-Analyzer and "Maßstab" are not in the normal Menu. I dunno what this "Mo-Analyzer" does. "Maßstab" is the german word for measure or scale. But the "Benchmark-Test" is missing at this screenshot. Perhaps this Mo-Thing is a different Benchmark "Vollbild (Fullscreen), "Schattenqualität" (Shadow quality), "Reflektionsauflösung" (Resolution of the reflections) and "Wasserqualität" (Water quality) are also not in the normal German version. It seems it's a kind of Mod for the Menu. And "Bildformat" is the translation for Aspect Ratio not "Vollbild" edit: The last Screenshot from Voodooman shows the normal german menu. edit2: I found the same Screenie with the additional Options on the German Page http://www.pcgameshardware.de. There was some screenshots from the Game, the Article was from 1st December (German Release Date was the 3th Dec). It could be a sort of Beta or Presspreview Version, with more Options instead of the final version. Edited January 3, 2009 by Taphiriel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seregas2001 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I think It is necessary to add likely something in 'commandline.txt' for open all graphics settings... 0_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynoz Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) The performance with GTA4 is terrible on my gaming rig. I know alot of people having these problems with this game but isn't my average fps way to low or is it just this game? Maybe some driver problem? And is it normal GTA4 only "sees" 1GB memory of my single 4870X2 card (2 gpu, total 2 GB of memory) I've installed the latest ATI driver and latest Intel Chipset drivers on my OS. I guess maybe I should go to O/C my CPU. Statistics Average FPS: 44.59 Duration: 36.31 sec CPU Usage: 92% System memory usage: 56% Video memory usage: 75% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1280 x 1024 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: High View Distance: 32 Detail Distance: 67 Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 Video Driver version: 7.14.10.630 Audio Adapter: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Intel® Core2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz Memory: OCZ 4GB (400MHZ 4-4-4-12) Edited January 3, 2009 by Zynoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How-To-Improve-GTA-IV Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 The screenshot above is from a press-release, a copy magazines received to test and rate the game. They had this options and a much better performance. I'm wondering why Rockstar took out this options and sucked up the performance so badly. But where did YOU find this screenshot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seregas2001 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Here http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,669009/N...d=669009&page=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatsCool Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) its so bad that they cut these options out from the final game! because then can maybe much more people play the game without lags oh and vollbild means fullscreen on or off(windowed) Does someone know why im losing 2-3 fps when i have damage on my car? Edited January 5, 2009 by ThatsCool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniwes Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 b) Its next-next gen *rolls eyes* No, it's a next-gen port. We're currently in a Generation which allows medium settings. The next gen will allow high settings. Pretty clever if you ask me. The problem is, PCs are a Generation above Consoles at the moment, but because of crappy coding (I guess), IV won't run to the full usability of PCs today, Minimum should be consoles, Medium should be above consoles and high should be Crysis-like if they Optimised it correctly. Crysis like ? you mean coded so bad that it won't run? It is probably best if we compare crappy coded games to crappy coded games.. and crysis is one crappy built game.. Good call. Crysis ran perfectly for me, totally smooth on the highest settings XP would allow, throughout the entire game. Except for some sound issues at the start, GTA IV has run without any issues either, despite the fact the game doesn't allow me to adjust my view distance beyond a certain level with high res textures, even though my graphics card can definitely take it. I guess people need to learn to buy proper hardware and learn to keep their software clean and up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azadori Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Damn! i really need these options.... if someone finds out how to do this he receives a cookie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatsCool Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Damn! i really need these options.... if someone finds out how to do this he receives a cookie! Yes! Why did C*ckstar cut that out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) I'm pretty sure the settings were only removed from sight in the options and so, I think it might be possible to force it through command lines. Anyone willing to try these? My card got f*cked up and is getting RMAed so I can't try it out. Add in commandline.txt: -shadowquality=(0-4) -reflectionquality=(0-4) -waterquality=(0-4) Try them out and report back, might work. Btw, THESE AREN'T OFFICIAL OR ANYTHING. I'M JUST TAKING A WILD GUESS HERE. Edited January 6, 2009 by Warlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatsCool Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) I'm pretty sure the settings were only removed from sight in the options and so, I think it might be possible to force it through command lines. Anyone willing to try these? My card got f*cked up and is getting RMAed so I can't try it out. Add in commandline.txt: -shadowquality=(0-4) -reflectionquality=(0-4) -waterquality=(0-4) Try them out and report back, might work. Btw, THESE AREN'T OFFICIAL OR ANYTHING. I'M JUST TAKING A WILD GUESS HERE. IT IS WORKING!!!!! THE GAME RUNS NOW FINE!!!! THE WATER LOOKS UGLY NOW ;D I have done this: -reflectionquality 1 -waterquality 1 -shadowquality 1 ITS WORKING THE WATER IS NOW MUCH MORE BLUE OF COLOR AND LOOKS MOR E UNREALISTIC!!!! BUT I HAVE NOW 3 fps more!!! IM GONAN post a picture Edited January 6, 2009 by ThatsCool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 HOLY F*CKING COW! That's f*cking awesome. WOW! I'm the first to discover this, man this is awesome. PLEASE post some pics dude, and thanks so much for trying it out. Out of the millions who visit this place, you seem to be the only one who bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatsCool Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) The Water is now much more blue and does not more have so good reflection and the shadowes and the reflections of the cars are loking now much more worse I try now all commands again but with 0 instead of 1 Oh and i get 3-5 fps more now Now i dont have anymore lags thx man ur the best! Edited January 6, 2009 by ThatsCool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 That's awesome. Glad to help bro. Thanks for posting pics too. Try it with 0 and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heat84 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) Shadow quallity wasn't one of the the extra settings in the German version. Its the same as the shadow adjustment thats visible in every other version(I believe). The extra setting you didn't try was Fullscreen. Its already known that you can adjust that with the command line. Very interesting findings though. I'll have to try the waterquality and reflectionquality commands. @Thatscool: Maybe you could post a before picture? I'm not playing the game much right now until I upgrade my rig, so I don't have a mental before picture(well I sort of do but I don't trust it) like I probably would if I played as often as I'd like to. Edited January 6, 2009 by heat84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The water doesn't look as 'flat' without the command. You can see waves and beautiful reflections on the water if you don't use thye command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Toronto Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 These commandlines do not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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