emcax24 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 its not really using the gpu for much of anything. it uses the ram on the video card to load the textures. turn your textures on low and turn everything else all the way up. see how much ram it uses. now turn the textures back up. if you run an application to monitor the gpu usage you will see its not doing much of sh*t unless something explodes or you smash over a light pole or your car. go to a large view where you can see a lot of the city, you would think the gpu would be really busy but it wont be doing sh*t. like i said emulation. same thing happens when you play dreamcast emulator or any other console emulator. uses all the cpu and little to none of the gpu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 its not really using the gpu for much of anything. it uses the ram on the video card to load the textures. turn your textures on low and turn everything else all the way up. see how much ram it uses. now turn the textures back up. You answered the question, it really needs a high end 1 Gb VRAM GPU at high GFX settings 1680x1050+. Nobody wants to play with crappy horrible looking low textures running a high end CPU at this res. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 if you had a 8400gs that had 1gb ram it would run at the settings you have in your sig on an i7. the gpu doesnt do that much in this game its just holding the textures and feeding them to the cpu which is doing all the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 if you had a 8400gs that had 1gb ram it would run at the settings you have in your sig Any proof of what you say ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdswine666 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Same setting's as the 8800's. Lower fps but the cards not really doing much. lol definetely weird eh , the i7 is bottlenecking the rig or what ? Is it at stock clock ? The I7's overclocked to 3.4 at the moment, i think it was at 3.8 with the 8800's whick might acount for something. Might run it at 3.8 with the new driver's & see if that makes a differnce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 i have neither an i7 nor a 8400gs, but im sure someone out there does. you dont need to have these in hand to see what im saying is true. look at the benchmarks. lower end system+ high end card = same numbers as the same system on a lower card. find all the q6600 benchmarks for instance. no matter what card they have you will see that the fps are about the same when the processor speed is the same or within 200mhz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) i have neither an i7 nor a 8400gs, but im sure someone out there does. you dont need to have these in hand to see what im saying is true. look at the benchmarks. lower end system+ high end card = same numbers as the same system on a lower card. find all the q6600 benchmarks for instance. no matter what card they have you will see that the fps are about the same when the processor speed is the same or within 200mhz. You still need a 1 Gb VRAM high end card. Only someone with a 1 Gb VRAM low / medium end card + a quad at 4 Ghz or a i7 highly overclocked could test it. And again, it makes no sense to run a rig with a fast high end overclocked quad + a sh*t GPU, since youll always need 1 Gb VRAM to max this game at 1680x1050+. Edited February 19, 2009 by thales100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90NINE Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Made it past 60 with maxed settings http://files.uploadffs.com/1/4ad71fd1/60.PNG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Made it past 60 with maxed settings http://files.uploadffs.com/1/4ad71fd1/60.PNG 63 is pretty impressive, but its not "maxed" since Render Option isnt set to "Highest" , whats your rig ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicetopia Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 21% CPU usage, I'm guessing an i7 is involved (The 8 threads confuses the GTA4 bench) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 21% CPU usage, I'm guessing an i7 is involved (The 8 threads confuses the GTA4 bench) ... Yes thats true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90NINE Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Didn't notice that render quality wasn't @ highest. Some new benchmarks.. fraps benchmark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJpH82B1K8c&fmt=22 non-fraps benchmark (fixed the render quality ;p): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWQBEVW02l8&fmt=22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Didn't notice that render quality wasn't @ highest.Some new benchmarks.. fraps benchmark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJpH82B1K8c&fmt=22 non-fraps benchmark (fixed the render quality ;p): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWQBEVW02l8&fmt=22 Two very different results, 56 or 63 FPS ? Whats your rig config ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90NINE Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 It's in the video descriptions, but I'll post it here anyway. i7 920 @ 3.90 Ghz GTX280 ( core 680 / mem 1270 (2540mhz) / shader 1440) 3GB Dominator 1600Mhz (1556 Mhz) DDR3 (7-7-7-21-64) XP Pro 32bit (customized with nlite for speed) edit: oh yea and its SP2 (registry fix used) I did apply a few game tweaks: farclip, resolution/mem trick, and a lowered bloom effect (visualsettings.dat) I didn't notice any difference in the way the game looked after I applied those tweaks. Also if you're not in a helicopter flying around the city or somewhere high up overlooking the city, the difference between 70 view distance and 100 view distance is barely noticeable. The difference between the two benchmarks is that one benchmark was done while fraps was recording (56 FPS) and one was done without fraps recording (63 FPS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistirius Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 emcax24 is right. GTA is CPU benchmark. If you want to test GPU i sugest trying Crysis. Another thing GTA Benchmark is total crap. Because the real gameplay and benchmark results are two totaly diferent things in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 It's in the video descriptions, but I'll post it here anyway. i7 920 @ 3.90 Ghz GTX280 ( core 680 / mem 1270 (2540mhz) / shader 1440) 3GB Dominator 1600Mhz (1556 Mhz) DDR3 (7-7-7-21-64) XP Pro 32bit (customized with nlite for speed) edit: oh yea and its SP2 (registry fix used) Welcome to the 60+ FPS 1680x1050 100% Maxed Club , btw my Qx9650 at 4 Ghz isnt that bad, only 3 FPS under a i7 at 3.9 Ghz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 go to a large view where you can see a lot of the city, you would think the gpu would be really busy but it wont be doing sh*t. like i said emulation. Bullsh*t. I monitored my GPU via GPU-z and it was well above 80% load at all time (apart when exiting to the menu). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 there must be something wrong with my gpu, the only time it says anything other than 39.0% is when something explodes and it spikes to 72 for a second then back to 39.0% this is me loading the game stealing a car a couple times and getting into 3 cop chases. as you can see the only time it went above 40% was when the game was loading in the beginning. like i told you it doesnt really use the gpu or my card is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArScAn Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Statistics Average FPS: 34.91 Duration: 37.24 sec CPU Usage: 73% System memory usage: 69% Video memory usage: 75% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: Highest Reflection Resolution: Very High Water Quality: Very High Shadow Quality: Very High View Distance: 100 Detail Distance: 100 Definition: Off (On) VSync: On Everything else: Very High Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 Video Driver version: 182.06 Audio Adapter: Alto-falantes (Creative SB X-Fi) Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU @ 2.66GHz CPU overclocked @ 3.33Ghz 4gb Corsair Dominator (Asus Striker Extreme) WD 150Gb 10.000rpm X-fi fatality Vista 64-bit SP1 fresh install GTA IV 1.0.2.0 (commandline.txt -availablevidmem 1.6) Multi-GPU and PhysX disabled on nvidia control panel 3D Settings: Let Application Decide I don't know what is happening cause I should get 50-55fps with these specs... Any help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistirius Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 QX6700 Extreme @ 3,33Ghz It is the QX CPU try overclocking it to at least 3.6ghz or 4.0ghz. If there is no improvement something must be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.R Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 (edited) Ok here it is as far at it goes without overriding the 1GB Vramlimit and this is how i play the game and [email protected],2GHz. 2-way SLI GTX280: Statistics Average FPS: 65.30 Duration: 37.26 sec CPU Usage: 29% System memory usage: 62% Video memory usage: 100% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (59 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: Highest Reflection Resolution: Very High Water Quality: Very High Shadow Quality: Very High View Distance: 31 Detail Distance: 100 Definition: Off VSync: On Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 Video Driver version: 182.05 Audio Adapter: Speaker (Creative SB X-Fi) Intel® Core i7 CPU 965 @ 3.20GHz 3-way GTX280: Statistics Average FPS: 64.40 Duration: 37.49 sec CPU Usage: 30% System memory usage: 54% Video memory usage: 94% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: Highest Reflection Resolution: Very High Water Quality: Very High Shadow Quality: Very High View Distance: 31 Detail Distance: 100 Definition: Off VSync: Off Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 Video Driver version: 182.06 Audio Adapter: Speaker (Creative SB X-Fi) Intel® Core i7 CPU 965 @ 3.20GHz Definition is on in the settings but shows as off, why i dont know. Forcing 3-way SLI in Nhancer just to make sure all cards is working but 3/4-way SLI is a no go in the game just as i expected, but 3-way dont harm the gameplay as it dont lower the FPS ingame from 2-way at least. EDIT: This setup and WC with dual pumps is all powered by a 1000W Coolermaster RealPower M1000 so no need for a beefy 1200W PSU if you pick the right PSU with power on the right rails, even if you OC the cards to the max. Edited February 20, 2009 by E.R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13-37 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) not mine my cousins Statistics Average FPS: 47.35 Duration: 37.11 sec CPU Usage: 91% System memory usage: 49% Video memory usage: 92% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: Highest View Distance: 100 Detail Distance: 100 Definition: Off VSync: On Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT Video Driver version: 178.24 Audio Adapter: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3600+ Edited February 21, 2009 by 13-37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Ok here it is as far at it goes without overriding the 1GB Vramlimit and this is how i play the game and [email protected],2GHz.2-way SLI GTX280: Statistics Average FPS: 65.30 Duration: 37.26 sec CPU Usage: 29% System memory usage: 62% Video memory usage: 100% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (59 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: Highest Reflection Resolution: Very High Water Quality: Very High Shadow Quality: Very High View Distance: 31 Detail Distance: 100 Definition: Off VSync: On Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 Video Driver version: 182.05 Audio Adapter: Speaker (Creative SB X-Fi) Intel® Core i7 CPU 965 @ 3.20GHz 3-way GTX280: Statistics Average FPS: 64.40 Duration: 37.49 sec CPU Usage: 30% System memory usage: 54% Video memory usage: 94% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: Highest Reflection Resolution: Very High Water Quality: Very High Shadow Quality: Very High View Distance: 31 Detail Distance: 100 Definition: Off VSync: Off Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 Video Driver version: 182.06 Audio Adapter: Speaker (Creative SB X-Fi) Intel® Core i7 CPU 965 @ 3.20GHz Definition is on in the settings but shows as off, why i dont know. Forcing 3-way SLI in Nhancer just to make sure all cards is working but 3/4-way SLI is a no go in the game just as i expected, but 3-way dont harm the gameplay as it dont lower the FPS ingame from 2-way at least. EDIT: This setup and WC with dual pumps is all powered by a 1000W Coolermaster RealPower M1000 so no need for a beefy 1200W PSU if you pick the right PSU with power on the right rails, even if you OC the cards to the max. Yep, SLi is still a dud no matter what people say about 184. whatever drivers onwards. It just doesn't do anything, or usually reduce the FPS a little. Can't argue with your choice of PSU either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aragond Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Alright, someone inform the n00b: where the f*&$ IS this benchmark file ends up? 'Cuz I just ran it ("-benchmark" in the commandline.txt), it displayed the video and then immediately exited, but gave me NO feedback, at all. So, where is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 So, where is it? Im in a laptop, out of my gaming PC, but i think its c:/users/home/documents/rockstar games/gta 4/benchmarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble007 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 my new GTX260 bench cpu running at 3.1ghz Statistics Average FPS: 57.60 Duration: 37.12 sec CPU Usage: 63% System memory usage: 64% Video memory usage: 99% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (75 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: Highest Reflection Resolution: High Water Quality: High Shadow Quality: High View Distance: 30 Detail Distance: 41 Definition: Off VSync: On Hardware Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 Video Driver version: 182.06 Audio Adapter: SB X-Fi Audio [D000] Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz File ID: benchmark.cli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotedawg Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Statistics Average FPS: 47.29 Duration: 37.47 sec CPU Usage: 28% System memory usage: 66% Video memory usage: 96% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: Highest Reflection Resolution: High Water Quality: High Shadow Quality: High View Distance: 55 Detail Distance: 100 Definition: Off VSync: Off Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ Video Driver version: 178.13 Audio Adapter: Speakers (6- Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 ) Intel® Core i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz File ID: benchmark.cli edited cause i found one with 3 more fps lol my 9800GTX is the weakest part of my system lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 my 9800GTX is the weakest part of my system lol Yep, 47 FPS with that 96% usage doesnt lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArScAn Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Managed to oc my QX6700 @ 3.6Ghz stable! Finally I get 30-40fps day, 20-30 rain, night, fog and 70 inside buildings @ 1680X1050, max settings, vd30.. However, I noticed some sudden fps drops! My Ram reach 90% inside the game most of time, cpu is @ 60-70%. I was thinking about an upgrade from 4gb to 6gb of ram because I can buy a kit of 4gb (same Ram I own now) by a low price. I know I wont see any major fps increase but will GTA use this 2Gb "extra"? PS: Runing Vista SP1 64-bit! BTW @ 1680, max settings I keep getting 35-40fps! This really s*... Specs on sig... Edited February 22, 2009 by ArScAn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Managed to oc my QX6700 @ 3.6Ghz stable! 3.6 Ghz should run this game pretty fine, and 4 Gb RAM is enough for GTA 4, but unfortunately the GTX 295 has only 896mb of effective VRAM, so to play at 1680x1050 all maxed you may have eventually a RESC10 error - out of video memory. Post a benchie result running at all maxed GFX settings , your VRAM usage is probably reaching 100%, while CPU and RAM usages are probably near 70%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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