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GtaMaster1993

The DLC, is it really that great?

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dantheleedsman
your right cos microsoft have bottomless funds so they dont give a sh*t they just want to get one over on sony

I can't tell if that was sarcasm or not, but yes, that's exactly what it is. They don't need to break even on the DLC, because just by getting the DLC exclusive on their console, it made the full game sell more on the 360. That's the way I see it. Why else would they make the deal so early on? Microsoft announces they're getting exclusive content, it sways buyers to get the 360 version over the PS3 version, thus getting more 360 sales.

 

So, in theory, Microsoft could have already broke even with how many more copies of GTAIV sold on the 360 compared to the PS3. What was it? 3 to 1?

Spot on my friend, this was an excellent deal by microsoft. All you have to do is find the xbox 360 sales since that announcement and the ps3 sales. I'm willing to bet the xbox sales out weigh ps3 by quite a bit. Then add on how many more gtas were bought for the 360 than the ps3, then how many ppl buy the dlc and theres ur 50,000,000 bucks!

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e2thejdot

Damn.. I thought GTAIV fans were suppose to be the more sophisticated fans of the gaming community. At least in comparison to SR2 fans.

 

Do you really think Bill Gates is pacing in his mansion wondering if he's gonna get his 50 mill back? You seriously think he didn't have a game plan that included buying this DLC not only to spite PS3 owners during this console war, but to get more people to buy his console FOR GTAIV? 60% sold on Xbox 360. Including the money he made off new consoles bought BECAUSE of the DLC deal AND the accessories those people bought (network adapter, hard drive, Xbox Live Gold, etc.) you don't think he's made money off of the DLC already?

 

The DLC could sell 100,000 copies and I don't think Microsoft would crumble or care.

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Niko Bellico

I will be getting it!

 

Whats great is im getting another xbox 360 and getting alot of microsoft points for my birthday in jan 4, so i'll save enough points to buy the DLC in feb 17 and it will be rad....YOU KNOW WHY because my old 360 died and i haven't been playing it for months, i went to a freinds house poped it in and it was exactly like the very first time i played.....YOUN KNOW WHY because i had the GTA jitters and played it on my psp (LCS) THATS WHY.

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Cyraxx

Lol at everybody saying that the DLC suck and is stupid honestly, wake up people lol.gif

 

1. The DLC ISN'T EVEN OUT YET

 

 

2. This is only the first of 2 episodes

 

 

So before you all jump to conclusions saying its dumb and it sucks and is stupid, why don't you all just WAIT for the damn thing to come out and THEN make accusations? sleepy.gif

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DavidGC

Don't forget guys, they're looking to move 360s too. So while some people are buying just the DLC, others are going out and getting their arcade for 200 bucks to buy the damned thing (see what I did there?).

 

But to all those people who are saying "Oh, it'll come to PS3"...it won't. That 50 mil MS gave Rockstar does three things; pays for the development of the packages, keeps them off the PS3, and more than makes up for the lost profit if they were to sell the DLC on other platforms. Rockstar doesn't care how they get the money or what company it comes from. If Nintendo offered Rockstar $400 million to make a clown-themed GTA on the Wii, then guess what? We'd have a new, albeit weird, GTA game.

 

No doubt, if MS gets greedy (but that would never happen!) they'll get it ported to the PC and make even more money.

 

Capitalism motherf*cker, do you understand it?

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Damo.

 

United States

United Kingdom

Canada

Denmark

Mexico

Singapore

Sweden

Other Europe

Australia

New Zealand

Japan

Big country. sarcasm.gif

Just because you decided not to include most of Europe doesn't mean that there's only 11 countries with access to Xbox Live.

Edited by Damo.

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LunaticBrandon

Then don't get it and shut the f*ck up.

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dirtycopVCPD

 

50 Million (even in this economy) is barely pocket change to Microsoft. If you choose not to buy it well I doubt anyone at Microsoft or Rockstar is going to shed a tear.

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ArcaneKnight

The threadstarter is an idiot.. And obviously doesnt own a 360. He deserved to get banned. Completely bashing one console as oposed to another..

 

 

One thing you guys forget though.. Even if Microsoft doesnt make their 50 million back in DLC sales alone, imagine all the consoles they sold because of GTA... The exclusive DLC just gave everyone more insentive to go get the 360 over the ps3. That alone made their 50 million dollar investment worth it. Now those owners will buy other games for their 360 and in the long run earn a huge profit. Smart business move by Microsoft TBH.

 

Now im pretty sure theyll sell more consoles because of this DLC, with how cheap the console has gotten you know a lot of kids are getting 360's for christmas this year.

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GuruAskew

 

The DLC, is it really that great?,

 

Great or not, it's something PS3 owners don't have access to. That's what it all comes down to.

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Graven
Probably less than half of those will be bothered with it depending on the price and then you have to consider that even fewer of those will have access to Xbox Live because it's only available in less than a dozen countries.

 

United States

United Kingdom

Canada

Denmark

Mexico

Singapore

Sweden

Other Europe

Australia

New Zealand

Japan

 

I'd say 3 million downloads max, more likely 1.5-2.0, but I don't believe for a minute that they will charge $25, more likely $15. Remember it's $25m an Episode (1/2).

Xbox Live is currently available in over 30 countries and territories.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Live#Availability

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TruSake

I just can't believe they're going to release this crap without still fixing GTA IV

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LunaticBrandon
I just can't believe they're going to release this crap without still fixing GTA IV

What the f*ck do you mean? Isn't the new stuff in the lost and damned going to be fixing the game. The only problem I have and hear about is the lack of content in this game.

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LitoBX

 

I just can't believe they're going to release this crap without still fixing GTA IV

Yes man, they're going to magically email you and tell you that a Rockstar truck is coming

around your neighborhood to collect your game so they can "fix" it. They told you from the

start they were going for a more serious look, shame on you for thinking it was a bluff.

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DavidGC

Look, the DLC is going to be good. PS3 owners can't have it. I own a PS3 and, yeah, I'm a bit jealous but not enough to go out and buy a 360. I have a PS3 because *I think* it's a quality system and it does what I want it to do. As for "exclusives" I don't really care...pretty much both have "equals" (think Halo 3 <-> Resistance 2) so it's no big deal.

 

PS3 owners can't have this content. Live with it, jeez.

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Spuds725

Just to add my 2 cents--

 

I'm a PS3 player if that matters to some-- I bought my PS3 about a month before IV's release-- and only bought it because IV was coming out-- I honestly didn't know that there was going to be any "exclusive" content for Xbox players-- I only learned of it a few weeks ago-- I am a GTA "fan" (as I'm sure all staff members are here)-- but purposely avoided learning info about IV-- I prefer to play GTAs without any info-- I did watch the trailers but that is about it...

 

My point is, MS's intent was/is to boost their sales and their XBL subscriptions-- however I'm betting most people that purchased the game, didn't know about the future exclusive DLC, I certainly didn't-- the casual gamer probably didn't know about this so I doubt it played much of a role in peoples decision to purchase the Xbox or the PS3-- I chose PS3 as I wanted to be able to play PS2 games on my PS3 and while I've never tried playing on an xbox, the control just looks goofy to me-- I'm used to the PS2 and the PS3 one is identical (other then the PS button and the lack of a wire)-- I didn't want to learn a new controller-- I do think Sony is screwing up by not making the newer PS3s PS2 game compatible-- this is a selling point for me, and a few other people I know of IRL.... but that is a different thread.

 

I do recognize MS's intent-- you think they would have advertised the fact more to the casual gamer-- time will tell how well the DLC will do-- TLAD certainly looks good-- I personally would buy it if available- and am for the first time jealous of xbox gamers-- I don't know if it i would have bought an xbox if I'd known about the DLC-- hard to know how this affected their sales-- did it affect it, probably-- how many more boxes did they sell... thats the $50 million dollar question wink.gif

 

As stated several posts back-- their intent is not to make money off the exclusive content but to get more xbox owners-- which means more xbox sales, more XBL subscriptions, and more licensing fees for xbox games-- the break even will be determined by console sales boosted by this content-- the break even is probably in the neighborhood of a 100,000 to 200,000 consoles I'm betting (purely a guess)-- even MS won't know-- they can only make an educated guess as to how this deal will work out for them-- unless they find a way to survey every xbox buyer as to why they bought that console.

 

Do I hope the DLC will eventually be available on PS3??... of course--- but won't be holding my breath. Anybody got a copy of the contract??

 

For those that have been stating that MS will be making all the money off the DLC sales-- I seriously doubt it-- Rockstar would have to be making some money off the content, otherwise why would they put any effort into the game-- if the only money they get is from the MS deal, the content would likely be crap (no reason to make a quality product)-- I wouldn't want to buy it if that was the case-- if rockstar puts out a good game/experience then they and MS would both make money off the deal-- I'm betting they are splitting the profit in someway-- and rockstar owns the content, not MS-- not that MS doesn't have control as to what can be done with the content.

 

Thats my 2 cents.....

 

Hope everyone has/had a safe and joyful holiday.

Edited by Spuds725

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GTA_dog
Okay, before you start saying " the only reason you don't like the DLC is because you're a PS3 fanboy ", i dont have a PS3, i have a 360.

 

Basically my point is that, what is going to be so great about the DLC, wow, an extra gun or two here, a new car and bike there.. who cares?

 

All there is really going to be is a new playable character, a couple of new weapons and vehicles, and a new, sweet, but short storyline.

 

I cant really see how microsoft can spend 50 million on an item that wont probably hit 1 million in sales.

 

to me it sounds stupid, the entire DLC sounds stupid.

 

I realise there is gonna be new multiplayer modes too etc, and this is only the 1st pack out of the two, but in my opinion, f*ck DLC! it almost seems pointless... suicidal.gif

So what you are saying is you would rather play the normal GTA IV without DLC?

Adding 30+ new missions will open up the storyline more! New vehicles and weapons is awesome! What did you expect? A whole new city?

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LunaticBrandon

Seeing as we will have at least 3 new firearms, 8 new vehicles and new missions I would say that as of now it is that great.

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TECHN9CiAN
Look, the DLC is going to be good. PS3 owners can't have it. I own a PS3 and, yeah, I'm a bit jealous but not enough to go out and buy a 360. I have a PS3 because *I think* it's a quality system and it does what I want it to do. As for "exclusives" I don't really care...pretty much both have "equals" (think Halo 3 <-> Resistance 2) so it's no big deal.

 

PS3 owners can't have this content. Live with it, jeez.

A touch of sanity... thank you. It sucks PS3 players can't have it, it really does, but what can we do? This is capitalism in action. Don't buy a 360. Give those money-hungry bastards the finger and hope that you do get it some day.

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rubiomhs

don't let your imaginary run wild based on a few rumors and what scarce info, pics and vids that have been released. it'll just set you up for a major disappointment. look at all those pc gamers that trusted rockstar. boy were they in for a surprise when they found out the game was absolutely terrible, performance-wise.

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LitoBX

 

Look, the DLC is going to be good. PS3 owners can't have it. I own a PS3 and, yeah, I'm a bit jealous but not enough to go out and buy a 360. I have a PS3 because *I think* it's a quality system and it does what I want it to do. As for "exclusives" I don't really care...pretty much both have "equals" (think Halo 3  <-> Resistance 2) so it's no big deal.

 

PS3 owners can't have this content. Live with it, jeez.

A touch of sanity... thank you. It sucks PS3 players can't have it, it really does, but what can we do? This is capitalism in action. Don't buy a 360. Give those money-hungry bastards the finger and hope that you do get it some day.

 

For starters, the actual butt hurt Playstation 3 owners can stop making

the same topics over and over. They're giving me a huge headache.

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Spuds725
For starters, the actual butt hurt Playstation 3 owners can stop making

the same topics over and over. They're giving me a huge headache.

Mr Obvious: "quit reading them"

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shunsuke
Okay, before you start saying " the only reason you don't like the DLC is because you're a PS3 fanboy ", i dont have a PS3, i have a 360.

 

Basically my point is that, what is going to be so great about the DLC, wow, an extra gun or two here, a new car and bike there.. who cares?

 

All there is really going to be is a new playable character, a couple of new weapons and vehicles, and a new, sweet, but short storyline.

 

I cant really see how microsoft can spend 50 million on an item that wont probably hit 1 million in sales.

 

to me it sounds stupid, the entire DLC sounds stupid.

 

I realise there is gonna be new multiplayer modes too etc, and this is only the 1st pack out of the two, but in my opinion, f*ck DLC! it almost seems pointless... suicidal.gif

A New storyline, idiot. Which is great. + the new features.

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shunsuke
It's closer than 60%-40% but if we assume that 60% of copies were on X360, that's around 6 million copies worldwide give or take.

 

Probably less than half of those will be bothered with it depending on the price and then you have to consider that even fewer of those will have access to Xbox Live because it's only available in less than a dozen countries.

 

United States

United Kingdom

Canada

Denmark

Mexico

Singapore

Sweden

Other Europe

Australia

New Zealand

Japan

 

I'd say 3 million downloads max, more likely 1.5-2.0, but I don't believe for a minute that they will charge $25, more likely $15. Remember it's $25m an Episode (1/2).

Less than a dozen ?

then you say : Other Europe ?

 

nervous.gif

 

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GtaHitmanStrikesBack

its simple they sell it for about $5 and sell a million copies there you go thats 5 mill already

or if they sell it for $10 you get the drift

and so on

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TECHN9CiAN
Look, the DLC is going to be good. PS3 owners can't have it. I own a PS3 and, yeah, I'm a bit jealous but not enough to go out and buy a 360. I have a PS3 because *I think* it's a quality system and it does what I want it to do. As for "exclusives" I don't really care...pretty much both have "equals" (think Halo 3  <-> Resistance 2) so it's no big deal.

 

PS3 owners can't have this content. Live with it, jeez.

A touch of sanity... thank you. It sucks PS3 players can't have it, it really does, but what can we do? This is capitalism in action. Don't buy a 360. Give those money-hungry bastards the finger and hope that you do get it some day.

 

For starters, the actual butt hurt Playstation 3 owners can stop making

the same topics over and over. They're giving me a huge headache.

Mr. Obvious is right: stop reading them. If they piss you off that much, filter them out with ctrl+f.

 

And just so you know, dumbass, I'm a 360 owner (never owned any PS)... I just feel for the PS3 owners who got f*cked over in MS's deal. mad.gif

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Azazel

Behave yourselves, and keep the fanboism to a minimum, if you please. Or rather, if you're able.

 

You should be able to keep a DLC-related thread together for more than three lousy pages before chewing eachother's faces off.

 

 

Azazel trips over cord on his way out

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