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Crazy Asian
Whats the point lol

 

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I'm with you.

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Dingdongs

This has gone one way to long and is just a flop of sh*t from whoever is posting. The point is it's coming out for 360 and thats final. PS3 owners sitting here arguing aren't going to get it. One day when a lot of you posting here understand how business works you'll know what I mean.

 

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Now seriously, how does this have anything to do with DLC? I am sorry for acting like a fanboy, but you act like you are working for microsoft. You are trying to prove that the 360 is better. Gets annoying.

 

Well by this logic we shouldn't even be talking about PS3 because the DLC is Xbox Live-exclusive.

 

So yeah, stop talking about PS3.

But this thread is about the possibility of the DLC. The chances might be slim but let's hope it will come out to sony's ps3.

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LitoBX
anybody else notice that theres a chance we may get a DLC considering the fact that rockstar could make a different DLC for the ps3. so 360 get the damned thingy and we could possibly get a different DLC maybe in a odd year or so

its possible sly.gif

This has nothing to do with The Lost and Damned. This would be best in the GTA NeXt section

or the GTA IV main board.

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Danny-Vain

yes it may never come to us ps3 owners, but exclusives have mostly been broken lately, lets Final Fantasy, Saints Row, Bioshock Some Others What Are Going to either ps3 or xbox 360. it just takes time. or maybe ps3 owners might get something completly something diferent maybe just lil things like extras, cars, clothing, weapons, new cheats etc..

 

id would like to say good one for the 360 owners

but its sh*t for us

but its bussiness

 

but like always and forever i will always love my Playstation, no matter what exclusives the 360 gets.

 

i hate the Wii tho

worst console ever xD

 

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Im back GuruAskew, I got held up at the annual Area 51 chilli cook-off.

 

I did manage a smile at your 'conspiracy' thing, so at least you have humour to douse those fanboy flames.

 

Once again, nobody thinks TLAD was finished and held back for a year: it had to be devloped in tandem with the main game to some degree, firstly so R* could make it work with the tech, and the biggest part, the overlapping storylines.

 

Lionhead/Microsoft had a similar strategy with Fable 2. Fans felt it was short lived, and a few months later they announce 3 lots of DLC with close release dates. Its not a conspiracy, its just the reality of the business side of games.

 

I dont know why you feel such joy in the fact that PS3 owners are left with jack to do after missions. Its a really cynical situation that the some of the GTA fans who supported R* from III onwards are now getting shat on thanks to corporate tit -for- tat.

 

And back O/T, i think it depends how many DLCs are released on 360 if Sony try and get their own. If MS milk the hell out of the current map, then im sure Sony will have to respond in some way. If not, I think they will wait it out until V and save a load of money they havent got.

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It's funny, Sony made a much stronger system spec-wise but then they f*cked it up by making it notoriously difficult to develop for.

 

As it stands the technical superiority of the PS3  is an abstract concept and you have games like GTAIV where the difference is practically non-existent and games like the upcoming "Resident Evil 5" where the consensus is that the 360 version looks better.  That's right, a Japanese game.

 

Furthermore, the technical superiority of the SNES didn't kill the Genesis, the technical superiority of the Xbox didn't kill the PS2 and the technical superiority of the PS3 and Xbox 360 both haven't killed the Wii. 

 

With its poor game selection, primative online service and antiquated controller the components that make the PS3 technically superior on paper might as well be sitting in a box at Sony's warehouse for all they've done to enhance actual games.

 

I'd personally rather have a game like "Gears of War 2" push my system to it's limits than have a bunch of forgettable PS3 games that never even come close to utilizing the system's supposed "potential".

It's funny that video game developers are understanding how to use blu ray. Also what is funny is that some of the more recent games look better on the ps3 then on the 360. And saying you would rather have gears instead of having games that won't reach to ps3's potential is pure and utter bollocks. Wait till killzone 2's release. Then hopefully, you will see the light.

Now seriously, how does this have anything to do with DLC? I am sorry for acting like a fanboy, but you act like you are working for microsoft. You are trying to prove that the 360 is better. Gets annoying.

I have both consoles, and it's so obvious the 360 delivers on having the better cross-platform games.

 

I should know because i have both versions of GTA:IV and while i have bought the 360 version of many others, i rented the PS3 version(s) as well(gamefly) to see if it was worth switching versions.

 

GTA:IV looks and performs better on the 360, heck it's rendered in 720p w/2X FSAA compared to 640p on the PS3(no fsaa).

 

Also the PS3 version has far too bright colors and a blurry like filter to the whole image, it really hurts the eyes after you play the 360 version.

 

The only fault the 360 has is it's shadow texturing is worse then on the Ps3, but all others are 360 advantages.

 

And it's not just GTA:IV, it's Saints Row and especially Fallout 3, in which all over the place the PS3 version has lower quality textures.

 

Here's the problems why the PS3 is not as powerful a gaming console as the 360:

 

-The PS3's Ram is split into 2-256MB specific modules, of which while it combines for 512MB, if a developer uses more then the 256MB of VRam, then they need to 'borrow' from the other 256MB pool(main ram), of which can take up a major performance hit(frame rate).

 

The 360's 512MB of unified Ram is not only easier for the developers, it leaves more Ram for textures.

 

The PS3 was released a year later then the 360, but instead of having more Ram, Sony stupidly put in the same ammount, in a less versitale way.(non unified)

 

-The PS3's OS takes up some 48MB Ram more then the 360. Now that may not seem like alot, but when a graphically heavy game like GTA:IV or Fallout 3..ect, it does matter.

 

-The GPU in the 360 has better shader performance then the PS3's, as well as it has more shaders available.(play Fallout 3 and you'll see how the lighting is better on the 360, since it's shader heavy).

 

Now the PS3 does have BR, but the developers have barely tapped into that extra potential, but the problem is that the PS3's weaker Ram becomes a bottleneck.

 

So while Sony can claim performance numbers all they wish, when games like GTA:IV are rendered in lower resolutions, and games like Fallout 3 have lower texture quality, it's obvious that Sony's numbers are inflated.

 

I had both consoles since each was launched, and the 360 delivers better visuals.

 

But i do use my PS3 for BR, since after R:FOM2(a very good FPS) i have no use to play any games on it.

 

I notice for others like me who own both consoles, everyone agrees the 360 is the better gaming platform for cross-platform games, hands down.

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The BigSlick

Fellow ps3 owners, you have to understand that your wishfall thinking wont come close to the $50 million R* invested. We have to understand Sony played this generation like retards, now xbox is the flagship console (sad but true). I have an open mind, maybe the DLC will come some where down the line based on what other exclusive deals have turned out in the past.

 

 

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The BigSlick

on a personal note, I just love how Guru spends all day every day on this thread arguing about GTA and constantly reffering it to a big conspiracy theory. Come on its just a game.

 

In the eyes of Guru, the TOP CONSPIRACY THEORIES!

 

9/11

JFK Assasinations

Apollo Moon Landing Hoax

Global Warming

GRAND THEFT AUTO IV PS3 DLC!

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GuruAskew

Ultimately there hasn't been a case of a cross-platform game that looks significantly worse on 360 than it does on PS3 just like there hasn't been a PS3-exclusive game that looks significantly better than a cross-platform or 360-exclusive game.

 

If PS3 could actually deliver an experience that blew the 360 away people would notice and reward Sony accordingly but that just isn't the case.

 

For all it's on-paper technical superiority it's just not something that has resulted in a significantly-superior gaming experience.

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UrbanTheEmcee

I really shouldn't feed into this Bullsh*t, but sometimes you just gotta say something.

 

THIS CONTENT WASN'T PLANNED OUT BY ROCKSTAR GAMES.

 

MICROSOFT PAID FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS CONTENT.

 

IF MICROSOFT DIDN'T OFFER ROCKSTAR $50 MILLION DOLLARS, DLC MAY HAVE NEVER BEEN MADE ON THIS SCALE, OR AT ALL.

 

EXAMPLE: I TELL SOMEONE TO BUILD ME A HOUSE, AND I'LL PAY THEM $50 THOUSAND DOLLARS. THEN MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR GETS MAD AND SAY'S, "THAT ISN'T EXCLUSIVE, I MIGHT GET IT LATER." (NO!)

 

PS3 OWNERS SAYING THEY'LL GET THIS CONTENT, IS LIKE 360 OWNERS SAYING WE WILL GET GOD OF WAR III, WHICH SONY DEVELOPS.

 

YES, ROCKSTAR DEVELOPS THIS CONTENT, BUT MICROSOFT PAYS FOR IT'S DEVELOPMENT.

 

THE ONLY WAY YOU GUYS WILL PLAY THIS CONTENT IS TO BUY A 360, OR WAIT UNTIL MICROSOFT CHARGES SONY A FORTUNE TO GET IT.

 

(F**K! YOU PEOPLE ARE UNBELIEVABLE!)

 

I'm not as angry as it seems I am, I just feel like I needed to state the undeniable facts. If you can't respect that your whole perspective is whack. I'm not a fanboy, I just like common sense to dictate my actions.

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hp_quad

Man f*ck PS3 bring it to Games for Windows - Live, that's right.

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Magic_Al
I really shouldn't feed into this Bullsh*t, but sometimes you just gotta say something.

 

THIS CONTENT WASN'T PLANNED OUT BY ROCKSTAR GAMES.

 

MICROSOFT PAID FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS CONTENT.

 

IF MICROSOFT DIDN'T OFFER ROCKSTAR $50 MILLION DOLLARS, DLC MAY HAVE NEVER BEEN MADE ON THIS SCALE, OR AT ALL.

The "may not have been made" part is certainly true but the "wasn't planned out" is not. Microsoft and Rockstar made their deal extremely early in GTA IV's development. The exclusive DLC deal was announced at the same time GTA IV was announced. It was never not part of the plans.

 

My guess is after the very successful Xbox version of San Andreas Microsoft approached Take Two about making GTA IV an Xbox 360 exclusive. This would have happened while Microsoft was helping with early GTA IV development in the first year after San Andreas was done, but before the 360 itself was released and two years before the PS3 was released. Microsoft had to supply prototype hardware for Rockstar to develop on (Power Mac G5 computers that ran an Xbox 360 virtual machine at 1/3 speed). You know Microsoft knew what GTA had done for the PS2 and they wanted a PS3 killer and they had money. They wanted to buy GTA and steal it completely from Sony. Rockstar said no and the exclusive DLC was a compromise. That's my theory.

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gta 4 gamer
It's funny, Sony made a much stronger system spec-wise but then they f*cked it up by making it notoriously difficult to develop for.

 

As it stands the technical superiority of the PS3  is an abstract concept and you have games like GTAIV where the difference is practically non-existent and games like the upcoming "Resident Evil 5" where the consensus is that the 360 version looks better.  That's right, a Japanese game.

 

Furthermore, the technical superiority of the SNES didn't kill the Genesis, the technical superiority of the Xbox didn't kill the PS2 and the technical superiority of the PS3 and Xbox 360 both haven't killed the Wii. 

 

With its poor game selection, primative online service and antiquated controller the components that make the PS3 technically superior on paper might as well be sitting in a box at Sony's warehouse for all they've done to enhance actual games.

 

I'd personally rather have a game like "Gears of War 2" push my system to it's limits than have a bunch of forgettable PS3 games that never even come close to utilizing the system's supposed "potential".

It's funny that video game developers are understanding how to use blu ray. Also what is funny is that some of the more recent games look better on the ps3 then on the 360. And saying you would rather have gears instead of having games that won't reach to ps3's potential is pure and utter bollocks. Wait till killzone 2's release. Then hopefully, you will see the light.

Now seriously, how does this have anything to do with DLC? I am sorry for acting like a fanboy, but you act like you are working for microsoft. You are trying to prove that the 360 is better. Gets annoying.

I have both consoles, and it's so obvious the 360 delivers on having the better cross-platform games.

 

I should know because i have both versions of GTA:IV and while i have bought the 360 version of many others, i rented the PS3 version(s) as well(gamefly) to see if it was worth switching versions.

 

GTA:IV looks and performs better on the 360, heck it's rendered in 720p w/2X FSAA compared to 640p on the PS3(no fsaa).

 

Also the PS3 version has far too bright colors and a blurry like filter to the whole image, it really hurts the eyes after you play the 360 version.

 

The only fault the 360 has is it's shadow texturing is worse then on the Ps3, but all others are 360 advantages.

 

And it's not just GTA:IV, it's Saints Row and especially Fallout 3, in which all over the place the PS3 version has lower quality textures.

 

Here's the problems why the PS3 is not as powerful a gaming console as the 360:

 

-The PS3's Ram is split into 2-256MB specific modules, of which while it combines for 512MB, if a developer uses more then the 256MB of VRam, then they need to 'borrow' from the other 256MB pool(main ram), of which can take up a major performance hit(frame rate).

 

The 360's 512MB of unified Ram is not only easier for the developers, it leaves more Ram for textures.

 

The PS3 was released a year later then the 360, but instead of having more Ram, Sony stupidly put in the same ammount, in a less versitale way.(non unified)

 

-The PS3's OS takes up some 48MB Ram more then the 360. Now that may not seem like alot, but when a graphically heavy game like GTA:IV or Fallout 3..ect, it does matter.

 

-The GPU in the 360 has better shader performance then the PS3's, as well as it has more shaders available.(play Fallout 3 and you'll see how the lighting is better on the 360, since it's shader heavy).

 

Now the PS3 does have BR, but the developers have barely tapped into that extra potential, but the problem is that the PS3's weaker Ram becomes a bottleneck.

 

So while Sony can claim performance numbers all they wish, when games like GTA:IV are rendered in lower resolutions, and games like Fallout 3 have lower texture quality, it's obvious that Sony's numbers are inflated.

 

I had both consoles since each was launched, and the 360 delivers better visuals.

 

But i do use my PS3 for BR, since after R:FOM2(a very good FPS) i have no use to play any games on it.

 

I notice for others like me who own both consoles, everyone agrees the 360 is the better gaming platform for cross-platform games, hands down.

Buddy, i don't understand the whole RAM bullsh*t and stuff like that. But when I find out some games that are developed better on the ps3 then 360, I will reply back.

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LitoBX

Oh. My. God.

 

 

You people are unbelievable.

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PretendWereDead

From the Kikizo preview:

 

 

Although this downloadable content is Xbox 360 exclusive for now, it wouldn't surprise us to see it turn up for PS3 and eventually PC at some point. Sony execs have dropped hints - albeit very cryptically - and pretty much all third party 'exclusives' these days are really just 'timed exclusives'. In fact, if the top-secret second episode doesn't take too long to see release (we asked - Rockstar has no news for us at this stage), perhaps the supposed GTA 'retail release' that hit the rumour mill earlier this month is actually a boxed edition of Episode 1 and 2.

 

 

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Pat
Sony execs have dropped hints.

Yeah, uh, I'm not all too sure Sony has seen the exclusitivity contract much more than we have, if at all.

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It's funny, Sony made a much stronger system spec-wise but then they f*cked it up by making it notoriously difficult to develop for.

 

As it stands the technical superiority of the PS3  is an abstract concept and you have games like GTAIV where the difference is practically non-existent and games like the upcoming "Resident Evil 5" where the consensus is that the 360 version looks better.  That's right, a Japanese game.

 

Furthermore, the technical superiority of the SNES didn't kill the Genesis, the technical superiority of the Xbox didn't kill the PS2 and the technical superiority of the PS3 and Xbox 360 both haven't killed the Wii. 

 

With its poor game selection, primative online service and antiquated controller the components that make the PS3 technically superior on paper might as well be sitting in a box at Sony's warehouse for all they've done to enhance actual games.

 

I'd personally rather have a game like "Gears of War 2" push my system to it's limits than have a bunch of forgettable PS3 games that never even come close to utilizing the system's supposed "potential".

It's funny that video game developers are understanding how to use blu ray. Also what is funny is that some of the more recent games look better on the ps3 then on the 360. And saying you would rather have gears instead of having games that won't reach to ps3's potential is pure and utter bollocks. Wait till killzone 2's release. Then hopefully, you will see the light.

Now seriously, how does this have anything to do with DLC? I am sorry for acting like a fanboy, but you act like you are working for microsoft. You are trying to prove that the 360 is better. Gets annoying.

I have both consoles, and it's so obvious the 360 delivers on having the better cross-platform games.

 

I should know because i have both versions of GTA:IV and while i have bought the 360 version of many others, i rented the PS3 version(s) as well(gamefly) to see if it was worth switching versions.

 

GTA:IV looks and performs better on the 360, heck it's rendered in 720p w/2X FSAA compared to 640p on the PS3(no fsaa).

 

Also the PS3 version has far too bright colors and a blurry like filter to the whole image, it really hurts the eyes after you play the 360 version.

 

The only fault the 360 has is it's shadow texturing is worse then on the Ps3, but all others are 360 advantages.

 

And it's not just GTA:IV, it's Saints Row and especially Fallout 3, in which all over the place the PS3 version has lower quality textures.

 

Here's the problems why the PS3 is not as powerful a gaming console as the 360:

 

-The PS3's Ram is split into 2-256MB specific modules, of which while it combines for 512MB, if a developer uses more then the 256MB of VRam, then they need to 'borrow' from the other 256MB pool(main ram), of which can take up a major performance hit(frame rate).

 

The 360's 512MB of unified Ram is not only easier for the developers, it leaves more Ram for textures.

 

The PS3 was released a year later then the 360, but instead of having more Ram, Sony stupidly put in the same ammount, in a less versitale way.(non unified)

 

-The PS3's OS takes up some 48MB Ram more then the 360. Now that may not seem like alot, but when a graphically heavy game like GTA:IV or Fallout 3..ect, it does matter.

 

-The GPU in the 360 has better shader performance then the PS3's, as well as it has more shaders available.(play Fallout 3 and you'll see how the lighting is better on the 360, since it's shader heavy).

 

Now the PS3 does have BR, but the developers have barely tapped into that extra potential, but the problem is that the PS3's weaker Ram becomes a bottleneck.

 

So while Sony can claim performance numbers all they wish, when games like GTA:IV are rendered in lower resolutions, and games like Fallout 3 have lower texture quality, it's obvious that Sony's numbers are inflated.

 

I had both consoles since each was launched, and the 360 delivers better visuals.

 

But i do use my PS3 for BR, since after R:FOM2(a very good FPS) i have no use to play any games on it.

 

I notice for others like me who own both consoles, everyone agrees the 360 is the better gaming platform for cross-platform games, hands down.

Buddy, i don't understand the whole RAM bullsh*t and stuff like that. But when I find out some games that are developed better on the ps3 then 360, I will reply back.

Having enough Ram is one of the the most important aspects of eithier a console or pc GPU's, as with more Ram the developers can raise the quality of textures and other graphical resources.

 

The PS3 has less Ram available(due to it's OS taking up more) and it's less versitale, and because of this, the developers need to cut down on something..and usually it's texture quality or in GTA:IV's case, Rockstar had to render the PS3 version in 640p.

 

Please don't buy into Sony's hype b.s, because if so, why was the 360 version of GTA:IV rendered in 720p w/2XFSAA, while the PS3 ran in a lower 640p w/no FSAA.?

 

GTA:IV is a very heavy Ram intensive game, and Rockstar ran into trouble with the weaker PS3's Ram structure.

 

And not just Rockstar but so many other developers have had this problem(ie..Bethesta with Fallout 3)

 

And if you still seaching for better developed cross-platform game on the PS3, after 2 yrs+ since it's launch, then you will never see it happen.

 

It the same comparing the 360 to a decent pc rig, as you will never see a better developed version on the 360 compared to it's pc counterpart.(unless the developer gets lazy).

 

Anyway, i'm not sure why PS3 owners are even in this forum, as the Lost and Damned is a 360 exclusive.

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I'll tell you why, Normally I would discuss it in the General GTA4 section, and was tempted to call a new thread "PS3 Spectators", we are long time GTA supporters, whether you late Xboxers to the party accept it or not, the PS controller is the best console playing solution, and in cases like mine, bests the PC solution of control. It's not perfect but I much prefer it despite anyone elses' opinion.

 

What is neat is how well Rockstar makes out with the additions, and the pricing of $20 is very reasonable if the content is large enough to equate to a PSP version, perhaps... IN THE LONG RUN, this should equate to some nice PS3 and PC downloads, I am not ruling it out at all.

 

At the top of this page of the thread, the Truth that Microsoft courted Rockstar to MAKE the DownLoadable Content is stated as fact, an undeniable truth...However, I've been here since GTA Vice and GTA3, and that's not what I EVER READ, so it is in fact, NOT TRUE!

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OGTiago

No, buy a 360.

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El Zilcho
What the f*ck is so hard to understand! NO DLC FOR PS3!

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Slamman

^^ With such an ardent distaste for Playstation and Sony, one might make you out to be a Fanboy, are you??

 

Fact is For MILLIONS of console gamers, Sony was the first, and the adoption of the control layout is fantastic as far as ergonomics go, it is also a very graphically superior game regardless, and Vice City, San Andreas, Etc, even the PSP versions were well rendered and animated, there are faults with any system and any programming, but it never REALLY sells the game short.

 

DLC as a whole is more then two exclusively TIMED episodes, it will work as a system for both consoles, and speculated for PC as well, I can't see it not being possible technically to add downloads that integrate... That's the main issue. DLC is what that means to all gamers. (I am saying this without regard to Fanboyism)

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Greco!

I heard the DLC is already on the PS3 version because there was enough room on the blu-ray disc but the 360 ran out of room because of DVD9 so you have to pay and download it to your harddrives while PS3 owners get it free

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BluRay as the disc, and HDD as the internal will play a factor, I'm betting, but NO, the DLC is not on PS3's version, it came about a time after the initial game design. It's also currently being developed, to what end, no one as a consumer can say, the initial foray is experimental, and that's as a marketed product as well as for RN to see what they can make integrate... So for now, there's a lot to look forward to!

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GuruAskew

The Xbox 360 exclusivity isn't hard for PS3 owners to understand.

 

It's hard for them to accept.

 

If you drop $700 on a gaming system you aren't gonna wanna come to grips with the fact that the one you can get for $200 is delivering better games.

 

I mean, it's annoying as hell to see the absolute and utter denial that PS3 owners vomit forth on this board but it's understandable.

 

As for it being a "timed" exclusive: you can throw that around all you want but you have to acknowledge that $50 million undoubtedly buys you a hell of a lot of time.

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I'll tell you why, Normally I would discuss it in the General GTA4 section, and was tempted to call a new thread "PS3 Spectators", we are long time GTA supporters, whether you late Xboxers to the party accept it or not, the PS controller is the best console playing solution, and in cases like mine, bests the PC solution of control. It's not perfect but I much prefer it despite anyone elses' opinion.

 

What is neat is how well Rockstar makes out with the additions, and the pricing of $20 is very reasonable if the content is large enough to equate to a PSP version, perhaps...  IN THE LONG RUN, this should equate to some nice PS3 and PC downloads, I am not ruling it out at all.

 

At the top of this page of the thread, the Truth that Microsoft courted Rockstar to MAKE the DownLoadable Content is stated as fact, an undeniable truth...However, I've been here since GTA Vice and GTA3, and that's not what I EVER READ, so it is in fact, NOT TRUE!

Oh Slamman, I know how long you've been here. You're about as infamous as Bluespot. I remember those good ole' days of ceedot acting like he was a mod, and blowing everybody he could to reach the top. I even remember you're old avatar pic, you looked like that guy from HBO's OZ.(Cyrill)

 

I respect your opinion, but you do seem a little bias when it comes to PS3-360 discussion. I might even seem that way aswell.

 

On Topic: I do believe I read somewhere that Microsoft is paying for the development of this content. I'm surprised a follower such as yourself would've missed it. I would try to look it up, but we both know that would be like trying to find a needle in a hay stack.(So Many Articles) Also i'm not one of these younger members, so you want find me putting too much emotion into something that can be proven with the passing of time.

 

So may the most informed GTA fan be happy with the end results. wink.gif

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The Lost And Damned And All DLC Is For The Xbox 360 Only. Get Over It Or Go f*ck Yourself.

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whether you late Xboxers to the party accept it or not, the PS controller is the best console playing solution

I dont understand this on either side? Both pads are good and after playing with either one for about 3 mins it just feels like Im playing with a joypad, not an 360 pad or a dualshock.

 

@GuruAskew

 

Most of the time the ps3 owners are just saying they want the dlc whats wrong with that...

 

...or are you and your 360 friends just worried it will come to the ps3 and you all just trying to convince yourselves?!? wow.giftounge.gif

 

 

 

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@GuruAskew

 

Most of the time the ps3 owners are just saying they want the dlc whats wrong with that...

 

...or are you and your 360 friends just worried it will come to the ps3 and you all just trying to convince yourselves?!? wow.giftounge.gif

This is exactly what he's doing. If you didn't care so much Askew, why does it bother you so?

 

Insecurities are always, always due to doubt. Not overconfidence.

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The Lost And Damned And All DLC Is For The Xbox 360 Only. Get Over It Or Go f*ck Yourself. 

This community keeps getting worse because of users like you.

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