Capricornus Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Bah! Let's make this simple: If animals were in a GTA game, pet owners and the f*ckers of PETA (People Eating Tarantula Ass) would be all over R* If kids wre in the game, loads upon loads of parents would be on R* ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numdmind Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Also - killable kids in Fallout 3! WATDAFAKSUPWITDAT?I know killing children is disgusting, but F3 got away with killing kids in games (not that I have, I have just seen pics), too bad GTAIV won't get away with such an idea... You couldn't kill the kids in Fallout 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpEJay Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I love this kind of topic, seeing peoples opinions on controversial topics... Does anyone ever stop to think about things a little, usually i would never cross the line of mixing this reality crap into the GAME world, but for the sake of this topic it's worth a little venture. The difference between right and wrong in the real world is blatent, the idiots who mix reality as being consequence to video games, movies or anything else is simply ignorant. Everyone has an imagination, fantasies or thoughts, which could be judged upon, but when shared, creatively such as in games and movies it's just like anything else in life, an open target for someone to be bias towards. Without thought, daily... There are family soap operas with deaths of kids & animals, murders of them, and other such brutality like rape, drug abuse and anything right down to underage sex etc. But the way the story is told depicts it's fine for minors to view such material, yet the bottom line is still the same, the thoughts provoked and then realized in a persons mind is still there, yet because these family soap operas are not graphicly portraying them, it's judged OK. Now look at horror flicks, rated for adults....... People able to make the choice to view them as entertainment, or not view them because of personal preference. The huge depth of brutality through all of the brutal graphic material, all the controversy in the past over certain things in certain movies, exists and will always do so and evolve like anything to get more brutal as a creative mind invents it.... Catching my waves here?? The reason you will never get the ability to slice kids into small pieces isn't because of the idiots who shout ''this is wrong to show anyone'' or ''this will make people go out and try it''..... That isn't the reason.... The reason is because everything is controled and regulated by people who are small minded, that believe there own ignorant crap because they don't have an imagination to WHY this should exist anywhere (or for what reasons), or why it would be entertainment to someone, when in reality it is blatently something that shouldn't exist, just like any kind of murder, everyone has the right to live. So GTA... Killing some animals is and always will be natural, others not, but the fact is, a man and his dog would have a lot of stories to tell which simply a man alone wouldn't have. The way GTA works could include such things, or the rabid crazy dogs which are fenced off and would rip a piece of your tender lil azz for dinner.... Animals, really.... Have been torn limb from limb in many games already... Or indeed used for other reasons ((see postal & cats))... GTA is going for a grimey reality and would have a more rich world with animals in there, however... Until our lil ps3's and pc's can handle more realistic use's of humans, what's the point..... Rockstar couldn't begin to include a single animal without making the game totally un-even, there's a reason the pigeons have a basic loop animation and use very few polys, like any props in any game.... Your talking sandbox world here on a huge scale, not a linear path in an adventure game where animals can be scaled in appropriately. Other than the total lack of freedom to portray kids or young teens in games, the same reasons would apply and in all honesty it wouldn't make any game worthwhile to include them unless you enjoy barbie games or something... Oh the sims... *cough*... Maybe one day in the far away future animals might make an appearance in a GTA, they could always make a small appearance as a side salad somewhere, but really.... GTA has a lot of places to go with the world GTA 4 has opened.... I'd say you should hope for more destructable environments, such as blowing chunks out of buildings, more clothing deformations other than the gunshot wounds, such as rips and tears, facial bruising and cuts, small things like that.... Oh and not forgeting the massively under-used areas of liberty city which we would all enjoy playing around with Then you'd get your hopes coming true much, much sooner.... Rockstar have no problem telling it the way it is ... There is huge scope for depth to expand with now GTA 4 is in place. It starts with the dlc and binding in lots of new details and the start of there innovation with the lost and damned.... Story innovation.... What will follow, and when we'll get some of the other million desires of innovation everyone wants from them, is just the damn waiting time! Anyways, i've flapped my keyboard gums plenty enough and now iam wandering off topic, but yeah animals / kids.... Plenty more interesting and worthwhile controversial things should and probably will come to GTA! SpE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObsessedWithGTA4 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 There is a child stroller prop in the game. If you know where Lil Jacobs Cafe is, you go down the expressway towards the airport you will run into a burger shot. On your right by the guard rail is a opening to drive down. Go down there by the water and dock and you will see the stroller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps3_,man Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 If a pigeon isn't a animal I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the all seeing eye Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^LOOK AT THE TITILE Please someone explain it to me. By asking a question like that, you are obviously a retarded animal and child batterer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^LOOK AT THE TITILE Please someone explain it to me. By asking a question like that, you are obviously a retarded animal and child batterer By reacting like that, you are obviously a closet animal and child batterer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordy. Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Dan or Sam Houser once said that they'd rather not have fluffy animals in their games. (excluding Bully of course) As for kids, the media don't need to ask Sam/Dan about that now do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelao Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I've come to the realisation that most people in this thread are not reading replies that are more than 4 lines long. THIS, is why we can't have nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTRACER Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 As I was about to say in the other thread, I would be rather annoyed to see cats and dogs in GTA, being run over by cars and trucks or being shot and beaten up by the main character of the game. A pigeon is slightly different, I suppose. You can't run them over and when you shoot them, they disappear in a cloud of feathers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTASIX Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Kids is just wrong. Its an adult themed game. Imagine the headlines "game allows players to murder children". Just no. Same with animals. Its just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Legend Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 There are kids in the GTA world. They only know to keep their asses inside the house at all times. Just sitting around, listening to the radio. They know what's up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucke Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't GTA IV include teenagers? You know driving the faggio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adiohead Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 There are kids in the GTA world. They only know to keep their asses inside the house at all times. Just sitting around, listening to the radio. They know what's up. haha! i bet they're all inside playing sr2 on their 360's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loczek47 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Killing animals ? f*ck no. Killing children ? f*ck yeah ! You can call me "psycho" , I don't f*cking care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strojio Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Killing children? You people are sick. Killing children is wrong, unless you snuff out their lives with your bare hands, in front of horrified onlookers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinee Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 even if rockstar put in little kids and animals i bet you they have to take it out of the game because some little fck said dsfsfsdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QwertyAAA Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Why no kids? For the same reason you can't kill children in F3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfire29 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) I wont say too much as new to the forums after just purchasing GTA 4 for the PC but I actually hate all the litigous bullsh*t and I hold the view that all these people who want to be percieved as do gooders are the ones with the biggest poblem because clearly in the case of many of these people they cannot distinguish between killing computer game character and killing someone in real life. All this bull started when some mentally ill guy played man hunt! I thereafter am subjected to shallow games because even though I can tell whats virtual and whats real some cant so I am the one who loses out on pure realism. Now before you lambast me , the fact is in games I pretty much always take the morally good choice like in bioshock because I felt for these virtual kids as I was immersed but I like the choice to be their all the same. I also think some people are trying to enforce their nanny state style values on us all but the fact is life aint like that! And tbh the fact this game has an age limit should mean more mature open minded , free thinking attitudes but If I was a betting man I would be willing to bet a high portion are either irate parents who didnt read the age limit or people either under age or just old enough to play. Also in regards to the rape comment, yeah rape is bad but go down this "Life is all fluffy" route and GTA will go to wreck and ruin, are you therefore fine that in some older versions of gta you can pay a hooker, do the biz then kill her and take the money back? Sorry but just because someone would do that in game doesnt mean they would do it in real life, also put someone thats mentally unstable in front off any product and thats asking for trouble and I hate how these dogooders are never bloody happy, free society my backside! Solution have a big pink fluffy button marked "Dogooder" for people that want to play GTA with my little pony guns and such Please this is GTA not watch with mother Actually just to expand on the fact about the older GTAs and the hookers, I dont believe most that are whining about kids didnt know about this aspect so spare us the false principals since if it was felt so strongly then after you saw what could happen to the hooker in the older games you would use those ow so high and mighty principals and not buy the most recent installment Edited December 4, 2008 by foxfire29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitoryu12 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't GTA IV include teenagers? You know driving the faggio. Yeah, but apparently there's some magical age you hit where it's all right to kill them. I'm not quite sure what it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmonicideals Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I've always been curious as well, why they haven't put at the very least some stray animals. You know, maybe some guard dogs, dogs and cats and rats in the alleys. At the very least, the blood and damage from animals would have effect on your traction. Like someone else said, it isn't any worse than commiting mass murder throughout the game. No one is going to be any more or less inclined to kill an animal than they are a human in GTA. What I want is a PARADE. That's right, line up the teeny-boppers from the high school band. Let's get some mega-flammable floats covered in people. No children, but young, short adults would be an "acceptable" pallet to use. I want crowds lined up and down the street and the road filled with people for a mile at a specific time during the day, a couple times an in-game month at random places. So you wouldn't always run into it, but maybe on some good days you'll catch it right at the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanmies Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 i can't understand the people who say that killing children is bad. killing adults not?? killinkg trees not? you look just like the people who think that videogames are the cause of the violence of the teenages. the fact is, if rocks put kids in the game, it should be prohibited in the whole galaxy. just because the people who works censoring games are assholes. I remember fallout 2. there is nothing better than use drugs on a child and then kill him with the goddamn biggest hammer. there is nothing pyscho on it, it is just fun. the sims is presented as the most gay, casual, fun game, but i that game you can kill a child, a dog and the babys. you can f*ck in front of them and you can drop them in the pool and sell the ladder. and no ones cries for that, dont know why. oh, yeah, i know, the people who works censoring games are assholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereisnospoon Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 i can't understand the people who say that killing children is bad. killing adults not?? killinkg trees not? you look just like the people who think that videogames are the cause of the violence of the teenages. the fact is, if rocks put kids in the game, it should be prohibited in the whole galaxy. just because the people who works censoring games are assholes. I remember fallout 2. there is nothing better than use drugs on a child and then kill him with the goddamn biggest hammer. there is nothing pyscho on it, it is just fun. the sims is presented as the most gay, casual, fun game, but i that game you can kill a child, a dog and the babys. you can f*ck in front of them and you can drop them in the pool and sell the ladder. and no ones cries for that, dont know why. oh, yeah, i know, the people who works censoring games are assholes. Exactly. They are VIRTUAL, they are not real. The only thing it brings is closer to realism in the game, that's not a bad thing either, it's still virtual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunr Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 What about half children half animal creatures? whoa! Yeah! Maybe not that either. No children at all for me. I wish gtai v really expanded the pigeon idea. Pigeon flying all around the city and perched all around would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerdeadfreek Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 SAVE THE COMPUTER GENERATED CHILDREN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerdeadfreek Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Good God people,think of all the fake sperm and fake eggs you have destroyed playing through the game as is.If you have owned the game for more than 1 month,you have probably killed billions already. people do need things to cry about i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adiohead Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 you can kill kids in bioshock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strojio Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 you can kill kids in bioshock True, and great fun it is too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Legend Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 "Why the hell there is still no kids or animal?" This doesn't relate, but you know how drug addicts and criminals "turn there life around" and become people of the faith, and believe in a holy life. This sounds very hypocritical, and there isn't any logic behind it. Drug addicts now have faith, what bullsh*t. How dare them talk such bullsh*t. So back to your question, no animals and kids because people are hypocritical. And it's easier to leave things out so they cannot be questions. I'd like to know how old you are also..... As I've grown through the years of GTA, things strike me different. I started at 14 or 15, playing the game with ONLY a smile on my face. Now at 19, I think about what I'm doing a lot more often. I don't like going through GTA games and murk every random person I see. Cause it almost puts stress on me. People ideas and views will grown along with them, the progression of age. The 15 yr old of today isnt that of 50 years ago. The new Milli has warped our minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remizov Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I still see GTA as a humourous take on the criminality and world in general. Including children/animals would change the tone of the game and the character you play - from satirical to sociopath/psycho. Though maybe one or two guard dogs like the ones you encounter (that really love to bite your arse whenever you're looking the other way) in Mafia isn't much to worry about if included in a future GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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