chitoryu12 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Also - killable kids in Fallout 3! WATDAFAKSUPWITDAT?I know killing children is disgusting, but F3 got away with killing kids in games (not that I have, I have just seen pics), too bad GTAIV won't get away with such an idea... If you saw dead kids in Fallout 3, it was either a bug or a hack. Kids are invincible in the game. In fact, just yesterday I point-blank shot a girl with a .44 magnum just to prove it to a friend, and all she did was run away screaming "I give up!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregrein Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) Wow, after reading the posts in this thread, I realized something. You people are disgusting. Edited November 28, 2008 by gregrein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavcas Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 Because having kids and/or animals in a gta game would be a sick and disgusting idea. If there were, Rockstar would be sued a million times oever. whats sick and disgusting about it exactly? R* left kids out because there are too many whiners in the world, who sue anyone for anything, because they themselves are sick, and imagine that everyone else is too. So, by having kids in this type of game, in their mind, they think that would somehow be bad for anybody, well, everybody. But its just stupid, I dont think any sane person would murder a human being ever, for no reason, adult or child, just because he likes playing a violent video game. End. That's probably true with animals as well. There would be protesters and everything because of that. But there are loads of games with animals in it and adding them to GTA would just make it realistic. There isn't really a need for both kids and animals. Kids in GTA would be an obvious mistake if they do it, it's ok if they are in cutscenes ie. GTA Vice City Stories. In VCS there was a baby no kids at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chukkles Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 You can do some pretty disturbing things to little girls in Bioshock, you can actually take their lives if you choose. But it will never be needed in GTA, unless you want some smaller speed humps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) I don't want to kill small children, or animals. However I would be up for teenagers. Would be fun slaughtering a group of teenagers riding skateboards. Edited November 28, 2008 by Miamivicecity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunde Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I don't want to kill small children, or animals. However I would be up for teenagers. Would be fun slaughtering a group of teenagers riding skateboards. Then you should get Saints Row 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Apart from the obvious uneeded flak R* would get if they included children in the game, what use would they serve? It seems the only reason seems to be so you guys can shoot them or otherwise harm them? Doesn't that tell you something? Why does it matter what age or size the "peds" are that you run over, shoot, set or fire or blow up? The simple answer is, because they aren't, Rockstar didn't put them in for various reasons and there's nothing we can do about it. It is obvious why they were not added. But i think it's a leap to say they would add nothing to the game. They added some pretty 'unnecessary' stuff into IV to add to the much touted 'Living, breathing city' but you don't have kids or animals. I mean they should have at least added mounted police around central park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItWasntMe Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I mean they should have at least added mounted police around central park That's such a good call... Police dogs as well would be a great way of introducing animals that you 'need' to harm... As for kids... Who the f**k honestly think's it would make a blind bit of difference to your overall game experience...? It's one thing to laugh at a generic ped bouncing off the bonnet of your car, but to want it to be a kid takes a certain type of nutjob. Kids aren't in because it makes no sense. Animals aren't in because the real NYC is a place where no animal other than rats and pigeons can live unless they're in a zoo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I don't want to kill small children, or animals. However I would be up for teenagers. Would be fun slaughtering a group of teenagers riding skateboards. Then you should get Saints Row 2 Already have, but I would like it in GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les_Paul Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 you idiots. becuase kids on the game would make perverts by the game to rape and kill them. its not a good idea. and to the person who said killiing animals is just as bad as killing people needs to get his hippie ass burnt in hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjMiikkii Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Flying rats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItWasntMe Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 becuase kids on the game would make perverts by the game to rape and kill them Pray tell... How does one go about using the 'rape' function on normal peds at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RATEDR307 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Now, for animals, the most that they could put in is up to a very large sewer rat, as if you walked around one of the above cities shooting any other animal, there would be an angry mob of animal rights/animal lovers who would like to......torture you in a very unpleasant ways......stabbing, shooting, water torture, shock torture, the works...... Not really, there's a lot of video games where you can kill animals. Call of Duty 4 and 5 you can kill dogs, and in the new Brother in Arms game you can kill sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 If they add them, Rockstar should make them optional. Perhaps a meter to turn them on or off and not require them for any mission, etc. Actually, there are two seventeen year olds in the game. One inside the cutscenes and one outside cutscenes, who is killable as a pedestrian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavcas Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 If they add them, Rockstar should make them optional. Perhaps a meter to turn them on or off and not require them for any mission, etc. Actually, there are two seventeen year olds in the game. One inside the cutscenes and one outside cutscenes, who is killable as a pedestrian. where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Humboldt Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Context, context, context... The dogs in Cod are attack dogs, they wan't your balls for breakfast. There is a difference between an SAS soldier silently dispatching of a dog to maintain stealth and a criminal kicking an innocent pooch to death for sadistic glee. Kids in GTA? I can't see it ever happening (except in cut-scenes) Really not worth the agro for R*. But 'Chav Culs' would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiliGTAFan Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) Wow, after reading the posts in this thread, I realized something. You people are disgusting. Not all of us are with the OP! I don't want to kill small children, or animals. However I would be up for teenagers. Would be fun slaughtering a group of teenagers riding skateboards. Lol, that's an exact thing you could do in SR2. Edited November 28, 2008 by FiliGTAFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebeans Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Shooting adults in gruesome ways, beating them to death with baseball bats, stabbing them to death with knives? Fine. But I draw the line with children. Even in a video game you don't go around killing children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzoboy Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I could imagine the moral dilemma from R* workers about making kids too, I bet most of them have families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiendishDog Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Also - killable kids in Fallout 3! WATDAFAKSUPWITDAT?I know killing children is disgusting, but F3 got away with killing kids in games (not that I have, I have just seen pics), too bad GTAIV won't get away with such an idea... and some bugs too LOL! and those pigeon they are just like hidden packeges they are not something you see on the street like pepople reading books or news papers Fallout 3 has kids but they're not killable. If you shoot them they run away. And then adults will come over and shoot you lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TECHN9CiAN Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 The GTA franchise is already infamous for pushing things as far as possible, so adding children and "fuzzy animals" would make them an easy target for PeTA and a bunch of bleading-heart parents whining about it. R* got away with it (for now) with Bully because it's a lesser known game, but GTA with kids and animals wouldn't last a week on the market without getting lawsuites and other complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsrule247 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 There are animals in many games like Far Cry, Fable, Call of Duty franchise, so I would hope that the next GTA has animals as well. As for children... what would really be the point? There is no reason to kill children. However if the game had children such as Fable where they could not be killed then it would be alright I guess. But even then, it would still be a pointless feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h5d Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) I've heard it's because, from Rockstar some time ago, they don't like the idea of children or animals in their games. Personally, I think it'd be cool to have children and animals in GTA, and you'd be able to interact with them like they were a pedestrian. becuase kids on the game would make perverts by the game to rape and kill them Pray tell... How does one go about using the 'rape' function on normal peds at the moment? Actually raping people would be cool to have in GTA too, I think. It'd be hilarious to rape children in GTA, at least I think. I guess it's just my dream, that people move beyond their typical thinking and actually realize that everything is perspective, everything is relative, and there is no right or wrong. More people need to do psychedelic drugs, I think. I've never done psychedelic drugs though, I may sometime. Edited November 29, 2008 by h5d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serbian warrior Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Because having kids and/or animals in a gta game would be a sick and disgusting idea. If there were, Rockstar would be sued a million times oever. How is killing animals worse than killing adult people exactly? Animals are probably left out for other reasons, such as hardly anyone cares about animals in GTA. You're night, killing animals in a game is hardly sue worthy, there are already games where you can kill animals. If children were put in the game, then... I don't have to spell it out. Well I will spell it... L-A-W-S-U-I-T lawsuits children, stay away from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 If they add them, Rockstar should make them optional. Perhaps a meter to turn them on or off and not require them for any mission, etc. Actually, there are two seventeen year olds in the game. One inside the cutscenes and one outside cutscenes, who is killable as a pedestrian. where? Well, one is the daughter of a Mexican man. I think this is her. And if you look on the in-game internet, there is a spoof site of MySpace that uses pictures of random pedestrians. One profile shows a black-haired girl as 17 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Actually raping people would be cool to have in GTA too, I think. It'd be hilarious to rape children in GTA, at least I think. Why would anyone find it hilarious to rape a child? I know it's just a video game, but come on there needs to be a line drawn, especially when it's completely un-necessary to begin with. GTA gets assreamed enough as it is aka Jack Thompson. Adding the ability to rape children would put a nail in GTA's coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rautatie Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 It would be good if GTA games would have children. I hate little children, so shooting them would be fun (Of course, I wouldn't shoot them in real life, never). But animals; no, no and no. I like animals very much, and I couldn't kill an animal in the game. So, yes for children - no for animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
computergeek Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 The way i see it, there isn't much more thrill killing a small character model as opposed to a big one. So why waste the time animating these character models? But, for the sake of it, lets suppose they do... So as the animator, you've just finished giving your kiddie peds basic kid functions. Perhaps climbing and dangling of trees, sliding down railings, playing ball. Now you can't just leave them there looping that animation 24/7 can you? Normal peds have jobs. Your kiddie peds need a job too. Now whats that damn thing that kids always go to? I think its called school... so you throw in a school bus vehicle and have your kids spawning all over the school campus. Have them sit in classes. Play on the field. etc. If anybody wanted to follow your new kiddie peds, they'd notice they spend from 8am to 3pm in a school, with a 1hr lunch break from 12-1 where they play ball on the field. Then the take the buses home. Some walk to the park and climb the trees. Others take the subway, eat at the fast food places. They really are brilliantly animated. eventually you realize waltzing the school corridors gets boring. fast. shooting your ak on the other hand, never does get boring. So out comes the ak, and Niko turns into Seung-Hui Cho, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Charles Whitman and any other 'high school' shoot'em up perpetrator i can think of. The game hits the market and gets fantastically positive reviews. 6 months later, its America's deadliest school shooting. Some 14 year old loner just capped a third of his school in the cafeteria. Police find a copy of GTA IV in his console. The media reports eerie similarities between the school shooting and what can be achieved in the game. Parents of the dead protest that such a game can be released... etc. More shootings. More protests. So you see, throwing in something like that is just asking for trouble. As for animals, well to those i have no objections. Far cry 2 had a fair amount of animals that could be made road kill. Euphoria probably doesn't work quite so well on them though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereisnospoon Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 The way i see it, there isn't much more thrill killing a small character model as opposed to a big one. So why waste the time animating these character models? But, for the sake of it, lets suppose they do... So as the animator, you've just finished giving your kiddie peds basic kid functions. Perhaps climbing and dangling of trees, sliding down railings, playing ball. Now you can't just leave them there looping that animation 24/7 can you? Normal peds have jobs. Your kiddie peds need a job too. Now whats that damn thing that kids always go to? I think its called school... so you throw in a school bus vehicle and have your kids spawning all over the school campus. Have them sit in classes. Play on the field. etc. If anybody wanted to follow your new kiddie peds, they'd notice they spend from 8am to 3pm in a school, with a 1hr lunch break from 12-1 where they play ball on the field. Then the take the buses home. Some walk to the park and climb the trees. Others take the subway, eat at the fast food places. They really are brilliantly animated. eventually you realize waltzing the school corridors gets boring. fast. shooting your ak on the other hand, never does get boring. So out comes the ak, and Niko turns into Seung-Hui Cho, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Charles Whitman and any other 'high school' shoot'em up perpetrator i can think of. The game hits the market and gets fantastically positive reviews. 6 months later, its America's deadliest school shooting. Some 14 year old loner just capped a third of his school in the cafeteria. Police find a copy of GTA IV in his console. The media reports eerie similarities between the school shooting and what can be achieved in the game. Parents of the dead protest that such a game can be released... etc. More shootings. More protests. So you see, throwing in something like that is just asking for trouble. As for animals, well to those i have no objections. Far cry 2 had a fair amount of animals that could be made road kill. Euphoria probably doesn't work quite so well on them though... That was deep, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strojio Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 you can shoot pigeons so why can't you stamp on guide-dogs while the terrified blind owner desperately tries to fend you off woth his white stick? one knife blow to the stomach and he's crippled on the ground, doubled over in agony with blood pissing out of a deep hole in his abdomen. then you continue the frenzied onslaught on the defenceless dog which shrieks and yelps as you wear it down with a volley of kicks and punches in front of screaming bystanders, before one final, fatal blow crushes it's skull like a flimsy coconut shell. y'know they tried to make it realistic, well what's realistic about not killing animals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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