New York subways at risk

[GTASIX]

The worst ever thing they could do is do something on christmas eve, day, or boxing day. That would be f*cking horrible.

 

(to any terrorists reading, the real worst day to do something would be february the 30th, so do it then)

[Vanilla Shake]

Apparently this is a warning for throughout the holiday season, and its been "planned" since September. f*ck it. I'm riding the subway no matter what.

 

Here's a video about it that I found. Link

[swolo yaggins]

(to any terrorists reading, the real worst day to do something would be february the 30th, so do it then)

Unfortunately, the terrorists aren't so f*cking stupid as to fall for your clever deception of a date that doesn't exist.

[Eddie280]

Well you have to think about it this way: Terrorist are always planning something and the majority of the time security services are stopping anything from a suicide bombing to an assassination attempt without us(or the media) even knowing.

 

If it has gotten to this point whereby the authorities are forewarned of a possble attack then that's pretty encouraging. It's less likely that the attack will succeed.

 

A similar attack was foiled in London in 06 I think. A terrorist cell had plans to detonate a huge bomb on a train as it passed under the Thames this would have the Thames to flood in through the broken tunnel and water log the entire system. Could have caused thousands of deaths and paralysed London's transport network for months.

 

Scary stuff.

[Mad Tony]

 

Yes, our beloved Department of Homeland Security that has made us all feel very safe indeed must be right. Of course we must trust everything that they say because if we don't we will certainly be killed by vicious TERRORISTS.[/sarcasm]

 

There may very well be some violent act but it there were I wouldn't doubt it's the works of the Department of Homeland Security or its sister organisations.

 

Just remember...

"Those who would give up a little Liberty for a little Security, will deserve neither, and lose both."

- Benajmin Franklin

I'm an ignorant patriot whose ideas are not to be critiqued.

I altered someone's post to draw attention away from the fact that I'm a f*cking retard.

Fixed.

 

Seriously though, I actually thought that little exchange was pretty amusing. You said something, he made it obvious that he disagreed, you immediately jumped to calling him ignorant and insinuating that he was the one who couldn't take criticism. Irony?

 

Basically what I was gonna say. Not buying into the conspiracy theories doesn't make me ignorant, nor does it have anything to do with me being patriotic. This isn't the first time I've been called ignorant for not buying into this kind of thing.

[HolyGrenadeFrenzy]

 

Basically what I was gonna say. Not buying into the conspiracy theories doesn't make me ignorant, nor does it have anything to do with me being patriotic. This isn't the first time I've been called ignorant for not buying into this kind of thing.

No, but you drole on and on about "other's conspiracy theories" like you are some kind of expert....an expert that refuses to look at anykind of research that doesn't support your own predertermined conclusions, before you even look at them.

 

Hell, many of us don't really care how things go for the most part and life is just a ride that is full of changes that rarely surprise us lest we close our minds to the possiblities that surround us.

 

Your "There are no such things as conspiracy" is hilarious because the whole world has spun on different forms of conspiracy since the dawn of civilization. Sanction has usually been about the same and "All the world is a stage.........."

 

You do not critique that which you ignor and in truth you demonstrate a vital position that is used worldwide to great effect from classical debate course.

 

Your position? Invincible Ignorance Which as usual also denotes the proclaiming of others ignorance and crying Red Herring as a form of distraction and therefore a transposed Red Herring in and of itself. Because the use of Invincible Ignorance as a position that others accept your claim that others are ignorant without any proof.

 

You ignore any proof or evidence that others provide, inconsequentially, in the name of," MY POSITION IS SUPERIOR and YOURS INFERIOR, REGARDLESS OF MY LACK OF EVIDENCE OR THE DISMISSAL OF YOURS". Only the ill use of Invincible Ignorance does that in debate.[/b]

 

I mean,really,"Who are we to question the gods?"

 

I bet you don't even have a clue what I just said in very plain speach for anything political.

 

To assume that others hold a position that you deem they do without a line of questioning and investigation does not follow a line of logic that supports any kind of knowledge, regardless of the issue.

 

Disinformation and Reverse Disinformation is a media standard that we are not past yet in the "civilized world", unfortunately.

 

The use of Dialectic is a rather broad and obvious route to control most opinions and attitudes of people. Like yours, Mad Tony, for instance.

Edited November 27, 2008 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy

[Mad Tony]

 

Basically what I was gonna say. Not buying into the conspiracy theories doesn't make me ignorant, nor does it have anything to do with me being patriotic. This isn't the first time I've been called ignorant for not buying into this kind of thing.

No, but you drole on and on about "other's conspiracy theories" like you are some kind of expert....an expert that refuses to look at anykind of research that doesn't support your own predertermined conclusions, before you even look at them.

 

Hell, many of us don't really care how things go for the most part and life is just a ride that is full of changes that rarely surprise us lest we close our minds to the possiblities that surround us.

 

Your "There are no such things as conspiracy" is hilarious because the whole world has spun on different forms of conspiracy since the dawn of civilization. Sanction has usually been about the same and "All the world is a stage.........."

 

You do not critique that which you ignor and in truth you demonstrate a vital position that is used worldwide to great effect from classical debate course.

 

Your position? Invincible Ignorance Which as usual also denotes the proclaiming of others ignorance and crying Red Herring as a form of distraction and therefore a transposed Red Herring in and of itself. Because the use of Invincible Ignorance as a position that others accept your claim that others are ignorant without any proof.

 

You ignore any proof or evidence that others provide, inconsequentially, in the name of," MY POSITION IS SUPERIOR and YOURS INFERIOR, REGARDLESS OF MY LACK OF EVIDENCE OR THE DISMISSAL OF YOURS". Only the ill use of Invincible Ignorance does that in debate.[/b]

 

I mean,really,"Who are we to question the gods?"

 

I bet you don't even have a clue what I just said in very plain speach for anything political.

Oh jeez, here you go again. I've told you about 10 times already, just because I don't buy into your conspiracies doesn't mean I'm ignorant or see my opinion as superior.

 

I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job, I don't believe there is a secret Freemason conspiracy to take over the world and I don't believe any of the other crap that comes out of Alex Jones' mouth. However, you're entitled to your opinion. I'm not gonna stop you. Just accept that I don't buy into this sort of thing and get over it.

Edited November 27, 2008 by Mad Tony

[HolyGrenadeFrenzy]

Oh jeez, here you go again. I've told you about 10 times already, just because I don't buy into your conspiracies doesn't mean I'm ignorant or see my opinion as superior.

Oh, YOU TOLD ME, alright.

 

I have never ask you to buy into anything at all.

 

Don't worry you gaping 15 year old brat, you'll either learn in life or discover that you are not right about others all the time, no matter how self righteous you are.

 

Your a sell out.

 

In other words, you write people off, as you see fit, before you know them at all.

 

Being a sell out is not just about dropping others for money.

 

 

[fuckindumass]

 

'Invincible Ignorance' That has a nice ring to it. Say it with me, 'Invincible Ignorance'. Ahh, that's nice. How could I have overlooked that when choosing my username?

[Mad Tony]

Oh jeez, here you go again. I've told you about 10 times already, just because I don't buy into your conspiracies doesn't mean I'm ignorant or see my opinion as superior.

Oh, YOU TOLD ME, alright.

 

I have never ask you to buy into anything at all.

 

Don't worry you gaping 15 year old brat, you'll either learn in life or discover that you are not right about others all the time, no matter how self righteous you are.

 

Your a sell out.

 

In other words, you write people off, as you see fit, before you know them at all.

 

Being a sell out is not just about dropping others for money.

Ooo, resulting to personal insults, that's mature

[HolyGrenadeFrenzy]

 

Oh jeez, here you go again. I've told you about 10 times already, just because I don't buy into your conspiracies doesn't mean I'm ignorant or see my opinion as superior.

Oh, YOU TOLD ME, alright.

 

I have never ask you to buy into anything at all.

 

Don't worry you gaping 15 year old brat, you'll either learn in life or discover that you are not right about others all the time, no matter how self righteous you are.

 

Your a sell out.

 

In other words, you write people off, as you see fit, before you know them at all.

 

Being a sell out is not just about dropping others for money.

Ooo, resulting to personal insults, that's mature

It isn't an insult. It is an observation.

 

Ya, know.....the thing that your refuse to do before you jump to conclusions.

 

And, yes, I am actually qualified to make that observation.

 

It is a completely human thing to do, selling out, and it is even forgivable yet that doesn't make it any less wrong.

 

Besides, you have a pretty handy set of names you call people yourself, which must be why you assume it is just name calling......lest you consider your own position and ever even come close to doubting your treatment of others as proper.

 

HINT: If you want respect....give respect.

 

But if you would rather just flame away to make yourself look good......go right on ahead.

 

I have attempted several times to treat you with respect by giving you multiple sourcesd of information that are useful to either side of any organized aurgument but you scoff and jump to the conclusion that I am just poking at you for your ignorrance, which you feel the need to hide......clearly.

 

One of the most important skills in any discussion is the use of other's knowledge to benefit you, regardless of whether you stick to a position or change it.

 

 

There are no clear cut one man shows message board and while it should go without saying.....I say it again.

 

@f*ckindumass> One Man Show= another classic username?

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On Topic

 

I dislike news like this about the threats to public safety but it is better than finding out afterward.....the hard way.

Edited November 27, 2008 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy

[Vive La France]

 

NYPD and MTA police already have the authority to randomly search peoples bags and detain them for nothing more than being on MTA property. This is a huge abuse of power as it is and I can only imagine what sort of batsh*t crazy policies they'll enact to "protect" the system now that there's been a direct threat.

 

I don't know what the f*ck is going on in America, the military industrial complex used to be a beast that you just didn't f*ck with. The CIA can cripple South America democracies and install despots, they can kill populist leaders and replace them with fundamentalist dictators (Iran anyone) but they can't f*cking kill one dude in a cave in Pakistan? Terrorists around the world are wearing smug f*cking smiles knowing that they got away with one of the largest mindf*cks in history and they'll keep coming in hordes until somebody does something about it.

Imagine what would happen without it, though. The thing is, it is an unfortunate price to pay for safety. And I myself value my life over a search of my bag.

Yeah but that's like wearing a foot thick styrofoam suit just because there is the possibility of getting hit by a bus. There's many ways one can die, cities in general tend to be dangerous places, while I agree a little security is essential for order... under the Bush era it's stepped on peoples toes to the extent where they can't sh*t without clearing it with homeland security.

 

They should focus resources to putting an actual face on the enemy and eradicating them.

No, it's more like wearing a helmet while riding a bike. The thing is, you would prefer to give up pretty much most of the security you have for the added convenience of no bag searches? Seriously, I'm fine with it.

 

Oh, yeah, and anyone who thinks that a club of independent contractors is running the government is nuts.

Edited November 27, 2008 by Vive La France

[PetsOvernight]

I'll be catching an Amtrak train out of Penn Station on Christmas Eve, so I'm not too worried. Guess I'll try not to ride the subway while I'm in town.

[SWEETSAPRIK]

 

Oh jeez, here you go again. I've told you about 10 times already, just because I don't buy into your conspiracies doesn't mean I'm ignorant or see my opinion as superior.

Oh, YOU TOLD ME, alright.

 

I have never ask you to buy into anything at all.

 

Don't worry you gaping 15 year old brat, you'll either learn in life or discover that you are not right about others all the time, no matter how self righteous you are.

 

Your a sell out.

 

In other words, you write people off, as you see fit, before you know them at all.

 

Being a sell out is not just about dropping others for money.

Ooo, resulting to personal insults, that's mature

It isn't an insult. It is an observation.

 

Ya, know.....the thing that your refuse to do before you jump to conclusions.

 

And, yes, I am actually qualified to make that observation.

 

It is a completely human thing to do, selling out, and it is even forgivable yet that doesn't make it any less wrong.

 

Besides, you have a pretty handy set of names you call people yourself, which must be why you assume it is just name calling......lest you consider your own position and ever even come close to doubting your treatment of others as proper.

 

HINT: If you want respect....give respect.

 

But if you would rather just flame away to make yourself look good......go right on ahead.

 

I have attempted several times to treat you with respect by giving you multiple sourcesd of information that are useful to either side of any organized aurgument but you scoff and jump to the conclusion that I am just poking at you for your ignorrance, which you feel the need to hide......clearly.

 

One of the most important skills in any discussion is the use of other's knowledge to benefit you, regardless of whether you stick to a position or change it.

 

 

There are no clear cut one man shows message board and while it should go without saying.....I say it again.

 

@f*ckindumass> One Man Show= another classic username?

----------------------------------------------------------

 

On Topic

 

I dislike news like this about the threats to public safety but it is better than finding out afterward.....the hard way.

Oh shut the f*ck up already.

 

You are an ignorant, incoherent, rambling douchebag. "That isn't an insult. It is an observation."

[kerouac.]

@HolyGrenadeFrenzy - As far as I can tell you're the only one flaming here. Rather than calling everyone ignorant for not subscribing your views, why don't you rather elaborate on them and defend your position? All I see here is a lot of hot air and no credible arguments.

 

As for "selling out" (which has NOTHING to do with the topic); you live in a consumerists society, you are using an internet forum dedicated to a consumable product (one that parodies our society but a consummable nonetheless) therefore you are a CONSUMER and just as much of a "sell out" as anyone else here. So either relocate to a corrugated metal shack in cuba, or shut the f*ck up.