Ron Taboga Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) 3,8 Ghz Intel Pentium D or an AMD Athlon 64 3700+1 Gb Ram 14,9 Gb HDD Space A Geforce 7300-7800(not on the requirements but it will run the game on lower settings then 1024x786)(for 640x480 or 800x600) or a 7900 GTX for (1024x768)(You will also run it on a Geforce 6800 but only on 640x480 on low graphics and without trafic or it will lagg) Here he quotes them saying the Pentium D as a minimum. I don't understand why would single core processor crash the game. Let it run slower, why crash it? I think the engine was programmed from scratch to run it on a dual core at least. They never even implemented the case into the engine that it could be run on a single core so there are many unexpected errors that can occure during running the game...i guess it could be so but i don´t know Edited November 26, 2008 by Ron Taboga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cojage Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Besides, what modern pc game you can play nowadays on minimum/normal settings in a resolution higher than 1024x786 with a single core? I cant think of any. I dont think Far Cry 2 plays great with a single core cpu for example, and that game has comparable graphics with gta4 i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I think the engine was programmed from scratch to run it on a dual core at least. They never even implemented the case into the engine that it could be run on a single core so there are many unexpected errors that can occure during running the game...i guess it could be so but i don´t know I was thinking about that. If the game seeks two cores it would be baffled if it could only run one core/thread. Late P4s and Pentium Ds don't have two cores BUT do emulate them so this should be less of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixxio Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Let it run slower, why crash it? I think having GTA4 playing slow as sh*t would just take out the "fun" of the game, and it would just make no sense playing the game at all, well that's my opinion. F*ck, I wouldn't even bother if I wanted to try it on a p4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Taboga Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I think the engine was programmed from scratch to run it on a dual core at least. They never even implemented the case into the engine that it could be run on a single core so there are many unexpected errors that can occure during running the game...i guess it could be so but i don´t know I was thinking about that. If the game seeks two cores it would be baffled if it could only run one core/thread. Late P4s and Pentium Ds don't have two cores BUT do emulate them so this should be less of a problem. But on the other side the Game should automaticly run both Core threads in one core simultanesly on a Single Core. In that case the CPU would be at 200% or more and would perhaps crash after some time cause not all threads could be executed correctly maybe. So the Game would run extremely slow but it should run. I also don´t really see the point why it should not run on Low with a single Core. There are also some really fast Single Cores out there like the Athlon 64 4000+ which are way faster than all Pentium 4 and D´s and they should at least be able to start the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasil Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) I was wondering if all this stuff about high requirements, heartbreaking german reviews, etc could be just marketing. I mean, tons of people are gonna buy this despite the requirements, even not meeting the minimum. So what if the game runs flawlesly after all?. Post release reviews will claim Rockstar success (again) all over the net...and everyone will forget about minor issues because the game runs at 30 fps on low settings in a single core processor. Edited November 26, 2008 by Vasil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan87 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 You are definitely wrong. Lots of people will not bother buying a high spec demanding game. A perfect example would be Crysis. However, if R* optimized the game to run on low spec PC with playable frame rates then this is another situation. R*, by the looks of it, didn't do that. We should still wait and see how things will turn out to be, maybe the final version of the game will be more optimized. Only 6 days to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasil Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 That´s the point, maybe they´ll lose some sales in the beginning, but they´ll keep selling it like candy when people realise they won´t need a quad in order to play the game properly. If the multi is as good as it seems to be, they have the perfect mixture here. I know it´s only cheap speculation, just trying to convince myself: It can´t be an epic fail, It can´t be an epic fail... . 6 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avean Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Complaining about high requirements ? You guys ever played this game before ? It has extreme high details and its for a reason even PS3 and Xbox360 struggles for a proper framerate sometimes. And the PC edition has better graphics and 3 times the view distance. So its only natural its demanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ_Vercetti Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 C'mon, stop bragging about requirements, who doesn't want to invest into upgrading, go for console and live happily ever after, until a new generation releases... Those who own PCs capable of playing GTA4 should be pleased for being able to do it and enjoy the superb gameplay, who cares if you have the same graphics as consoles, at least you have the same gameplay, and that's what makes games worth buying, right?! and those who have high end rigs, lucky them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickzu Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Complaining about high requirements ? You guys ever played this game before ? It has extreme high details and its for a reason even PS3 and Xbox360 struggles for a proper framerate sometimes. And the PC edition has better graphics and 3 times the view distance. So its only natural its demanding. There's plenty of games that look better and have lower requirements. DiRT, Crysis (yes, even Crysis), FC2... I mean...Crysis, I know someone's going to look at this and go "zomgxor you can't compare gta with crysis they're two different games"....BUT Crysis has large open maps, stunning detail, very high resolution textures...and the recommended requirements are: Recommended System Requirementsfrom Crytek and EA OS - Windows XP / Vista Processor - Intel Core 2 DUO @ 2.2GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Memory - 2.0 GB RAM GPU - NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS/640 or similar Edit: Also you can't really compare a 5 year old console being laggy with these outrageous system requirements Edited November 26, 2008 by mortal_soldier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) It has extreme high details and its for a reason even PS3 and Xbox360 struggles for a proper framerate sometimes. I just have to ... ... ... OK, I'm done now. BUT Crysis has large open maps, stunning detail, very high resolution textures...and the recommended requirements are: Yes, but ... Crysis is a PC game (not properly optimized one at that) while GTA IV is a "ground up build" i.e. a port. Edited November 26, 2008 by mkey82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iminicus Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD - A MILLION BILLION THANKS TO YOU!I totally needed that. Man I am calm now, all I wanted to know is the graphics aspect. But... scans from magazines are frowned upon here. I suggest you delete them and just give brief info... WTF? You can post scans if you want. What you have to do is thumbnail them or resize so they don't page stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¤FireStyle¤ Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD - A MILLION BILLION THANKS TO YOU!I totally needed that. Man I am calm now, all I wanted to know is the graphics aspect. But... scans from magazines are frowned upon here. I suggest you delete them and just give brief info... WTF? You can post scans if you want. What you have to do is thumbnail them or resize so they don't page stretch. No, he is refering to copyright issues here...not image or resizing issues... Also I know those specs are high....but they said that the game looks the same as the console versions on the lowest gfx...so I mean if that's the case then youcan't go wrong there !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iminicus Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD - A MILLION BILLION THANKS TO YOU!I totally needed that. Man I am calm now, all I wanted to know is the graphics aspect. But... scans from magazines are frowned upon here. I suggest you delete them and just give brief info... WTF? You can post scans if you want. What you have to do is thumbnail them or resize so they don't page stretch. No, he is refering to copyright issues here...not image or resizing issues... Also I know those specs are high....but they said that the game looks the same as the console versions on the lowest gfx...so I mean if that's the case then youcan't go wrong there !!! You are a moron. He can post up the scans anyway. What copyright issues you talking about? He isn't claiming the article is his, so that nulls the issue. OT: Post the scans. Just resize them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickzu Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 but they said that the game looks the same as the console versions on the lowest gfx...so I mean if that's the case then youcan't go wrong there !!! Do you not get it dude, man...guy! This is a matter of honor and pride for PC-gamers...the game MUST run maxed out!!!11!!!one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delite Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 So a pentium D CAN run it? It won't crash? This review says the game crashed on Pentium D and Pentium 4.. Yeah but the min specs say you can have a Pentium D...I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickzu Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 So a pentium D CAN run it? It won't crash? This review says the game crashed on Pentium D and Pentium 4.. Yeah but the min specs say you can have a Pentium D...I'm confused. Bad drivers/badly optimized review copy of the game (they get released before the actual game goes gold). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 You are a moron. He can post up the scans anyway. What copyright issues you talking about? He isn't claiming the article is his, so that nulls the issue. OT: Post the scans. Just resize them. You are a moron. Scan are illegal on this forum. Full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadDevil Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 So a pentium D CAN run it? It won't crash? This review says the game crashed on Pentium D and Pentium 4.. Yeah but the min specs say you can have a Pentium D...I'm confused. Theres no technical reason for it not to run on a Pentium D unless it requires SSE4, which I think most or all AMD CPU's don't have. Pentium D = Core Duo (Does anyone remember the Core Duo range from 2005/2006?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delite Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 phew then there still may be a chance my old D will run it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasil Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Some still don´t get it or you just eat everything R* puts in your mouth. Based on the media I´ve seen so far, this game should run at 1680x1050, with almost everything maxed out at stable 25-30 fps at least in a mid-range machine (good dual core, 2gb ram, hd3870/8800gt 512, and yes, I´m talking abour FC2 and Fallout 3, open ended games with huge maps and AI workaround, which look better than this gta). I´m not talking about the gameplay, I have no doubt it will be good, and I know I´ll enjoy this even if I had to play it with the lower detail settings at 320x240, but as far as graphic engine is concerned, If reality is something near this review, it doesn´t speaks very highly of R*Toronto work. Edited November 26, 2008 by Vasil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avean Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Complaining about high requirements ? You guys ever played this game before ? It has extreme high details and its for a reason even PS3 and Xbox360 struggles for a proper framerate sometimes. And the PC edition has better graphics and 3 times the view distance. So its only natural its demanding. There's plenty of games that look better and have lower requirements. DiRT, Crysis (yes, even Crysis), FC2... I mean...Crysis, I know someone's going to look at this and go "zomgxor you can't compare gta with crysis they're two different games"....BUT Crysis has large open maps, stunning detail, very high resolution textures...and the recommended requirements are: Recommended System Requirementsfrom Crytek and EA OS - Windows XP / Vista Processor - Intel Core 2 DUO @ 2.2GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Memory - 2.0 GB RAM GPU - NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS/640 or similar Edit: Also you can't really compare a 5 year old console being laggy with these outrageous system requirements GTAIV has 10x bigger map and over 250 000 more models ingame. You cant compare any game with GTAIV. On top of that there is no loading and you can walk detailed outside and inside of buildings. You cant just bring a 7000 series graphics card to the table. Myself i am sitting on GTX 280 and 8GB of memory. I have to play in 1920x1200 resolution (26" screen") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickzu Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 GTAIV has 10x bigger map and over 250 000 more models ingame. You do know the game doesn't render it all at once, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 GTAIV has 10x bigger map and over 250 000 more models ingame. You do know the game doesn't render it all at once, right? Also you do understand the game doesn't load 100000 civilians right on start-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadDevil Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 On top of that there is no loading and you can walk detailed outside and inside of buildings. The game is constantly loading game data (Streaming would be a better word), this is why Pop-In Occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickzu Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The game is constantly loading game data (Streaming would be a better word), this is why Pop-In Occurs. It was proven in SA that infernus+NOS is faster than PS2. It happened on my PC too, but not nearly as much (probably because it reads the data from the hard drive and not the DVD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unopescio Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 14,9 Gb HDD Space FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdnalsi Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Post the damn scans already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avean Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 GTAIV has 10x bigger map and over 250 000 more models ingame. You do know the game doesn't render it all at once, right? Actually it does, but in low poly mode and to hide it they blur it out and use fog. Which is highly eliminated in the PC version due to higher memory. I work as a game developer and have high knowledge about this engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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