Bullet_Chris Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I wonder how powerful a PS3 is in: - Processor - GFX Card - Ram etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelly Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_hardware The CPU can't be directly compared to PC CPUs because it's a PowerPC processor, but the closest analogy would be a 3.2GHz Intel Atom with 7 x87 floating-point coprocessors, not that such a thing exists. It's very different from other CPUs. The GPU is basically a 7800GTX, minor ignorable differences and a different bus instead of PCI-E. RAM, 256MB of relatively fast system RAM and a 256MB GDDR3 frame buffer. The weakest link of the console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel. Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_hardware The CPU can't be directly compared to PC CPUs because it's a PowerPC processor, but the closest analogy would be a 3.2GHz Intel Atom with 7 x87 floating-point coprocessors, not that such a thing exists. It's very different from other CPUs. The GPU is basically a 7800GTX, minor ignorable differences and a different bus instead of PCI-E. RAM, 256MB of relatively fast system RAM and a 256MB GDDR3 frame buffer. The weakest link of the console. Actually Jallar (not arguing with you mate, I've only been PC gaming for 6 months ) I really wouldn't call the PS3's RAM that fast, it's a mere 256 MB of GDDR3 700 Mhz, but modern DDR2 is clocked around 800-1066 MHZ anyway. I OCd mine from 667 MHZ to 800 MHZ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Fozborne Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 He was talking about the XDRAM used in the console which is very fast, not the GDDR3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta_rodney Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 The GPU is basically a 7800GTX Does that mean it can't render DirectX 10 or newer effects ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Fozborne Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 You are correct that the 7800GTX doesn't support Direct X10... But the PS3 doesn't use DX10 at all. The Xbox 360 doesn't either. Only Vista is DX10-capable and only windows supports DX at all. The reverse also applies. For example: if you buy a Macbook Pro that has a 9600GT (which does support DX10) you will NOT be able to play DX10 games without serious modification. The OS doesn't support the hardware capabilities of the DX platform. But yes, the 7800GTX can support the latest PS3 effects. Sony wouldn't use a product that doesn't enable them to compete with the 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta_rodney Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Ah ok, thank you for the info. It mean that a normal (not enhaced) game port from PS3 to PC doesnt require DX10+ as minimum to work, a DX9c card will do it , true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelly Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 The PS3 uses a specialized version of OpenGL, no DirectX whatsoever. If you're wondering about the system requirements for a port you should look at the port's requirements, not the specs of the console because it's entirely irrelevant. They have to practically develop the game over again to get it to run on lots of different hardware configurations as opposed to the single specific PS3 implementation so it's no use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel. Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 The PS3 uses a specialized version of OpenGL, no DirectX whatsoever. If you're wondering about the system requirements for a port you should look at the port's requirements, not the specs of the console because it's entirely irrelevant. They have to practically develop the game over again to get it to run on lots of different hardware configurations as opposed to the single specific PS3 implementation so it's no use. Indeed, GTA 4's minimum specification is, rather stupidly, the spec of the consoles themselves . Jallar: I know this is completely off topic, but I am interested to know your PC specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackmackg Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 You are correct that the 7800GTX doesn't support Direct X10... But the PS3 doesn't use DX10 at all. The Xbox 360 doesn't either. Only Vista is DX10-capable and only windows supports DX at all. Its called the xbox for a reason, you know "DirectX-box". yeah i know vary catchy name. its running off a form of DX9c. like how ps3 has a version of OpenGL. Also you people listen to jallar. he seems to know his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel. Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 You are correct that the 7800GTX doesn't support Direct X10... But the PS3 doesn't use DX10 at all. The Xbox 360 doesn't either. Only Vista is DX10-capable and only windows supports DX at all. Its called the xbox for a reason, you know "DirectX-box". yeah i know vary catchy name. its running off a form of DX9c. like how ps3 has a version of OpenGL. Also you people listen to jallar. he seems to know his stuff. Indeed he does, don't bother contradicting him...You won't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Fozborne Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 You are correct that the 7800GTX doesn't support Direct X10... But the PS3 doesn't use DX10 at all. The Xbox 360 doesn't either. Only Vista is DX10-capable and only windows supports DX at all. Its called the xbox for a reason, you know "DirectX-box". yeah i know vary catchy name. its running off a form of DX9c. like how ps3 has a version of OpenGL. Also you people listen to jallar. he seems to know his stuff. I said the Xbox doesn't use DX10... and then you go on to contradict me by saying it uses 9.0c. I don't understand what you're contradicting me with as we're saying the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelly Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Jallar: I know this is completely off topic, but I am interested to know your PC specs. Old AMD dual-core, some memory sticks cobbled in there, some hard drives shoehorned in - the only thing that really pulls its weight in it is the 8800GTX, coincidentally the only part I'll keep (along with the drives obviously) when I upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Jallar, you don't go on Overclock.Net do you? I swear I've seen your sig as someones av there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelly Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Jallar, you don't go on Overclock.Net do you? I swear I've seen your sig as someones av there. I do, and that's where I stole it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel. Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Jallar: I know this is completely off topic, but I am interested to know your PC specs. Old AMD dual-core, some memory sticks cobbled in there, some hard drives shoehorned in - the only thing that really pulls its weight in it is the 8800GTX, coincidentally the only part I'll keep (along with the drives obviously) when I upgrade. Cool, thanks for the advice mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) He was talking about the XDRAM used in the console which is very fast, not the GDDR3. Time not withstanding, GDDR ram ranges from 2 to 5 spec, and they are all in use, as DDR is as well. The time factor shifts in everyone's eyes. What is too fast to obsolensence, etc. I feel it's unwise to move so swiftly that one is being discarded a year later. However, everything dates drastically in a 5 year time frame in computer tech. Sony is looking for 10 years from the PS3. PSM Magazine commented on the earliest incarnation of GTA 4, at that time, felt to be a PS3 exclusive, and since the xbox wasn't thought to even have it, there was no wide counterclaim to that. I think it was almost a year after that article that we learned of dual platforms! OF course, they kepy everyone wondering about the PC, but I didn't have much doubt about it myself. The fact remains the nVidia was claimed state of the art a few years back as the PS3 entered the market... the CPU Cell is not very tested in game markets, prior, so there's a lot to learn as these 10 future years progress. I have no doubt some exploitation of a time tested system will result. That's not taking away from the PC end, BTW. I feel hardware in place for a time strictly benefits in that fashion. Edited November 16, 2008 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 He was talking about the XDRAM used in the console which is very fast, not the GDDR3. Time not withstanding, GDDR ram ranges from 2 to 5 spec, and they are all in use, as DDR is as well. The time factor shifts in everyone's eyes. What is too fast to obsolensence, etc. I feel it's unwise to move so swiftly that one is being discarded a year later. However, everything dates drastically in a 5 year time frame in computer tech. Sony is looking for 10 years from the PS3. PSM Magazine commented on the earliest incarnation of GTA 4, at that time, felt to be a PS3 exclusive, and since the xbox wasn't thought to even have it, there was no wide counterclaim to that. I think it was almost a year after that article that we learned of dual platforms! OF course, they kepy everyone wondering about the PC, but I didn't have much doubt about it myself. The fact remains the nVidia was claimed state of the art a few years back as the PS3 entered the market... the CPU Cell is not very tested in game markets, prior, so there's a lot to learn as these 10 future years progress. I have no doubt some exploitation of a time tested system will result. That's not taking away from the PC end, BTW. I feel hardware in place for a time strictly benefits in that fashion. We care why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnyboy Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 He was talking about the XDRAM used in the console which is very fast, not the GDDR3. Time not withstanding, GDDR ram ranges from 2 to 5 spec, and they are all in use, as DDR is as well. The time factor shifts in everyone's eyes. What is too fast to obsolensence, etc. I feel it's unwise to move so swiftly that one is being discarded a year later. However, everything dates drastically in a 5 year time frame in computer tech. Sony is looking for 10 years from the PS3. PSM Magazine commented on the earliest incarnation of GTA 4, at that time, felt to be a PS3 exclusive, and since the xbox wasn't thought to even have it, there was no wide counterclaim to that. I think it was almost a year after that article that we learned of dual platforms! OF course, they kepy everyone wondering about the PC, but I didn't have much doubt about it myself. The fact remains the nVidia was claimed state of the art a few years back as the PS3 entered the market... the CPU Cell is not very tested in game markets, prior, so there's a lot to learn as these 10 future years progress. I have no doubt some exploitation of a time tested system will result. That's not taking away from the PC end, BTW. I feel hardware in place for a time strictly benefits in that fashion. We care why? No one really cares, he just doesn't want to get yelled at for making thousands of two word posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 He was talking about the XDRAM used in the console which is very fast, not the GDDR3. Time not withstanding, GDDR ram ranges from 2 to 5 spec, and they are all in use, as DDR is as well. The time factor shifts in everyone's eyes. What is too fast to obsolensence, etc. I feel it's unwise to move so swiftly that one is being discarded a year later. However, everything dates drastically in a 5 year time frame in computer tech. Sony is looking for 10 years from the PS3. PSM Magazine commented on the earliest incarnation of GTA 4, at that time, felt to be a PS3 exclusive, and since the xbox wasn't thought to even have it, there was no wide counterclaim to that. I think it was almost a year after that article that we learned of dual platforms! OF course, they kepy everyone wondering about the PC, but I didn't have much doubt about it myself. The fact remains the nVidia was claimed state of the art a few years back as the PS3 entered the market... the CPU Cell is not very tested in game markets, prior, so there's a lot to learn as these 10 future years progress. I have no doubt some exploitation of a time tested system will result. That's not taking away from the PC end, BTW. I feel hardware in place for a time strictly benefits in that fashion. We care why? No one really cares, he just doesn't want to get yelled at for making thousands of two word posts. Yeah, no one really cares about technical information, we really just all care about the Jonas Brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'm repeating the fact that just because the console tech ages, doesn't mean it automatically means poorly. You know you read it, whether you care or not... doesn't matter, you READ IT! HA! I mean, come on, grow up, learn a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Some people hate learning. Maybe because they can't stand the fact they don't know everything, therefore, they don't want to learn anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Yes, it actually does mean poorly. Technology isn't like cheese, it can't age well. It can, indeed, 'stand up to time,' but still fails in comparison to new technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Yes, it actually does mean poorly. Technology isn't like cheese, it can't age well. It can, indeed, 'stand up to time,' but still fails in comparison to new technology. And some cheese is just bad to start with, like that Wii cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Yes, it actually does mean poorly. Technology isn't like cheese, it can't age well. It can, indeed, 'stand up to time,' but still fails in comparison to new technology. And some cheese is just bad to start with, like that Wii cheese. It's not really bad cheese, it's just a party cheese. At least it doesn't come in cubes anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel. Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Yes, it actually does mean poorly. Technology isn't like cheese, it can't age well. It can, indeed, 'stand up to time,' but still fails in comparison to new technology. And some cheese is just bad to start with, like that Wii cheese. It's not really bad cheese, it's just a party cheese. At least it doesn't come in cubes anymore. Hahaha, the PS3's a grill. Bloody hell, look at the Xbrick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Jesus, enough with the fanboyism. And yes, I do prefer my 360 over my PC now that I have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Where do you live? I'm going to call child services, and have your PC taken into protective custody. It's obviously unloved. Seriously, though, I don't see much 'fanboyism,' only poking fun at obvious console flaws. I didn't think you could be a PC fanboy, I figured the term only applied to those of low enough standards to opt for one of the consoles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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