HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) The morphing synthetic skin concept car of the future? Most of the following videos are rehashed in their organization but it is still a great thing to see so, I included them anyway. Trailer Premiere BMW GINA Light Visionary Model: Premiere (HQ version) BMW GINA. Geometry and Function in N Adaptions - interior BMW GINA Light Visionary Model - Exterior BMW GINA Light Visionary Model: Design 2008 BMW GINA Light Visionary Vehicle - Studio Video So, how does this vehicle grab you? Do any of you believe the design principals of future vehicles will go to this sort of thing more often or is it a one time fad? There is really no reason not to enter into a new dynamic way of using car materials and it looks like some creative concepts are off the ground level. But, like Svip says, it isn't a hover car or anything as cool as that. Edited November 13, 2008 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch. Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Old? But, as for future technologies, this isn't it, in my opinion it's a throwback to a zeppelin. We should be looking at using bio plastics etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Old? But, as for future technologies, this isn't it, in my opinion it's a throwback to a zeppelin. We should be looking at using bio plastics etc. Yeah, it is old but only in internet veiw of old being that info was only "new" less than six monthes or so ago. And sure....new innovations are plausible to several extents yet the actual definition of bio-plastic vs modern assumptions about such things is another matter entirely. So, you don't like the concept or is the entire thing too premature to place a judgement on for how it will take off for future developements. Space Age Tech will require us to transform our veiws of what "can be" in order for any new possiblities to really take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch. Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I don't think that a fabric is the way forward. rigid carbon nanotube structure's are where it's gonna be at. As thick as a hair, stronger than steel. it is a good concept, albeit a flawed one. It's a concept where even the concept materials don't yet exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 I don't think that a fabric is the way forward. rigid carbon nanotube structure's are where it's gonna be at. As thick as a hair, stronger than steel. it is a good concept, albeit a flawed one. It's a concept where even the concept materials don't yet exist. So, you would go the way of the Fullerenes? I fully agree that they are a much underspoken substance for materials in the use of everyday things, cars being only one example. I have thought this since 1991, if I remember correctly, when Bucky Balls were made the cover art focus and articles in Popular Science. The thing that seemed so facinating at the time and even more so since was how much easier it was to produce than previously accepted. Much can be done with this fabulous matterial and I feel that its use should be highly encouraged. The only limit will be the finding and procuring of enough carbon to go round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picolini Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I like the dynamic change in shape, and how smooth it is. The concept is butt ugly though, and I doubt it'd hold up well in the real world. I also like seeing the head lights in action, how they pop out like that, very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch. Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Much can be done with this fabulous matterial and I feel that its use should be highly encouraged. The only limit will be the finding and procuring of enough carbon to go round. Well tbh, with the rate of scientific advances too, it'll no doubt be a synthetic product with carbon like properties (except maybe not the electrical conductivity for a car), as the carbon nanotubes are strong because of their cylindrical shape as lack of 90 degree bends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suction Testicle Man Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 A Lagonda wrapped in tent canvas..? It would take a couple of hours before the council estate kids would take a flicknife to it, not to mention I really don't see what is so innovative about electric gullwing doors and a headrest that pushes through canvas like a Lord of the Rings orc being born. It's f*ck ugly too Though if they found an alternative that looks as good as painted metal, that is as strong and safe, I'd be the first (and probably the only) to have Cortina body panels forged out of it. If at first you don't succeed, you fail, and the test will be terminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) Much can be done with this fabulous matterial and I feel that its use should be highly encouraged. The only limit will be the finding and procuring of enough carbon to go round. Well tbh, with the rate of scientific advances too, it'll no doubt be a synthetic product with carbon like properties (except maybe not the electrical conductivity for a car), as the carbon nanotubes are strong because of their cylindrical shape as lack of 90 degree bends. Well, sure tubes are better than angled matterials for strength. C60 is soccerball shaped and can even gain some properties of any matterial it can contain yet the whole time the C60 still has a hardness on par with diamonds and a much higher tensile strength as well. Strong and not brittle, that is pretty amazing as far as the scientific community is concerned all its other magnificient properties are just additional boons. Now, C70 is harder still while maintaining a very close tensile strength as the C60. I haven't studied the complexities of C128, lately but I could I suppose. Now, being at the molecular level, you can achieve alot of things when something has less steps in manufacturing than something that has more complex and various steps than one that is much simplier. Ove the past nearly two decades the means of producing C60 matterial has multiplied expotentially. One of the best and easiest ways of production is in tubular form. The "other" forms are still quite malleable, although many of the crystaline forms are stronger than previous crystalline structures they still cannot compare to the tube forms structures for strength of course. The whole thing kinda alludes to other possible structures that are resilent for production with such materials. Torus C60 structures, for instance, would have an incredible life time. Now the biggest difficulty with producing vehicles of such matterials is one of current economic value due to the amount of matterial massed currently on planet wide. C60 used to hold a value higher than gold by a multiple of seven. This will go down with time but many a college student has paid for college tution by producing C60 at home/garage labs and with military applications and nanotech interests in the matterial at an all time high there is no end in view. (although no such thing last forever this one thing has lasted for a long time) HE is still the most common internal captured element within C60 but it is not the only one. Now back on topic. Would a tubular C60 fabric be possible? If so, would the synthetic skin than is nearly indestructible and eats knives for breakfast be something that manufacturers jumped onto for vehicle matterials? In my opinion, not right away because the cost of such matterials is still so very high and the added complexity of a fabric instead of solid form would multiply the production cost. But the rich vs the superrich may very well find a nich in such productions. So, who knows? Personally, I believe that what stretch says is more likely on a timely basis......but if the internet remains around for prosparity then this thread may have future nuggets for a researcher. As far as fabric goes the current work in "spider web tech" is going pretty strong for armor and such. .....car skins? It certainally has got my curiousity yet I see common clothing at raised rates for being "armor padded" much sooner and more regular than I do "car skins". Not that I would right off the possiblity, mind you. Edited November 16, 2008 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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