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Ronnyboy

Moon Landing Conspiracy

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Tobias Fünke

The government was clearly using anti-gravity devices they stole from the UFO that crash landed in Roswell. Which was shot down by a laser beam from the lost city of Atlantis.

 

Do you believe everything the government tells you? sarcasm.gif

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TV1213

WE WENT PERIOD.

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Our Lord & Savior

I've always been interested in how people can allow themselves to be deluded enough to believe the moon landings were faked, so I came up with this all-in-one handy dandy question to silence any and all of the critics.

 

If the moon landings were faked, then why did the Soviet Union not call out the United States on their bluff?

 

At that time, both countries were bitterly engaged in the Space Race. If the Russians thought it was faked, as they could have easily detected with their technological might, why would they not have publicly announced that it was faked? What did they have to lose? Clearly, if there was any chance at all that it was faked, they would have done so, and in so strike a devastating blow to the morale of the entire United States and shamed beyond recognition NASA and everyone involved with the program.

 

The only answer to the above question would be that the Soviet Union and the United States were in cahoots, but to what end? Then you start having to drag in the notion of a giant, secret world government like the Illuminati, in which case you lose all credibility.

 

The end. The moon was visited in 1969 and many times after. You'll notice that all the critics who talk about how we didn't go to the moon have no formal training in any field, let alone any space-related field of science.

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K^2
This completely obliterates any ideas about the Moon Landing being a hoax:

 

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

 

If you still believe it was a hoax after reading this, you're f*cking retarded.

If you think that link provides any proof that moon landings happened, you fail at reading comprehension. It debunks various proofs that it was a hoax, and does it well enough. But showing that there is no evidence for the hoax is not proof that there was no hoax.

 

 

If the moon landings were faked, then why did the Soviet Union not call out the United States on their bluff?

And that would do Soviet Union any good? You point out yourself that Soviets and US were rivals. If Soviets were to claim that US didn't land, everyone would assume they are fabricating any evidence to that end, AND it would make them look like sore looses. As soon as US presents believable proof that they did go, Soviet Union is forced to go along with it, regardless of whether or not they think it actually took place. The only way that Soviets could save face in the situation is to pretend that they had no serious intentions for the Moon, and their goal was Mars. And that's exactly what they did.

 

Now, you can make arguments on how unlikely it is for such information not to have surfaced after collapse of Soviet Union, but that just goes into long list of circumstantial evidence suggesting that Moon Landing has most likely happened. It is by no means a proof that it certainly happened. We do not possess such a proof. The closest we get to 'proof' is that some of the shots from Apollo missions would be ridiculously difficult to fake, and it would be cheaper to just go. Especially if you consider that at very least, an unmanned mission would need to take place either way.

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makeshyft
The closest we get to 'proof' is that some of the shots from Apollo missions would be ridiculously difficult to fake, and it would be cheaper to just go. Especially if you consider that at very least, an unmanned mission would need to take place either way.

Also, the fact that thousands of people were involved in the Apollo program. Simply keeping every one of those people quiet in regards to the hoax would be impossible.

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Svip
The closest we get to 'proof' is that some of the shots from Apollo missions would be ridiculously difficult to fake, and it would be cheaper to just go. Especially if you consider that at very least, an unmanned mission would need to take place either way.

What about the mirror the astronauts placed on the moon that we still use today?

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K^2

Soviets have their own retroreflectors and other equipment on the Moon. They've never been there. Presence of reflectors simply proves Lunar Landers have been there. Not that men have walked on the Moon.

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Leftcoast

 

It's also interesting that you can have pages and pages of posts even though there hasn't been any legitimate argument to refute the obvious in who knows how long. I do enjoy reading the posts, hence, I was here this late in the game to post this reply.

 

I say enough is enough and let's move on..... But since we have not I will quote myself. I will also say again from a tech point of view, NO ONE AT THE TIME HAD THE TECHNOLOGY TO FAKE THE MOON LANDING VIDEO!

 

Like I said before, Starwars was made almost a decade later and didn't look as good. The government has no secret movie making secrets, they would have to use what film makers already knew and the tech just didn't exist at the time of the moon landing for it to be a fake.

 

If you think other wise, BRING IT ON! I dare you............

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Mad Tony

 

The closest we get to 'proof' is that some of the shots from Apollo missions would be ridiculously difficult to fake, and it would be cheaper to just go. Especially if you consider that at very least, an unmanned mission would need to take place either way.

Also, the fact that thousands of people were involved in the Apollo program. Simply keeping every one of those people quiet in regards to the hoax would be impossible.

And this is perhaps one of the best arguments against almost any big conspiracy theory, not just the moon landing one.

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Svip
Soviets have their own retroreflectors and other equipment on the Moon. They've never been there. Presence of reflectors simply proves Lunar Landers have been there. Not that men have walked on the Moon.

A. The Soviet Union is gone.

 

B. They do? Interesting, do you have a link with more information on that? Not because I am defying your claims, but because I actually interested.

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Original Baby Gangsta

wow i had no idea there were many disbelievers on man setting foot on the moon. Don't we have tickets now for a few hundred thousands bucks for a trip to the moon anyways? I remember sweeptakes for a chance to win a trip up there, too. idk

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Leftcoast

 

And this is perhaps one of the best arguments against almost any big conspiracy theory, not just the moon landing one.

 

Agreed,

 

However, the interesting part is that sure as "you know what" there have to be some good juicy conspiracies out there. The real trick is finding out which are crap and which are not. This one is obviously crap.

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flameweilder
And this is perhaps one of the best arguments against almost any big conspiracy theory, not just the moon landing one.

 

Agreed,

 

However, the interesting part is that sure as "you know what" there have to be some good juicy conspiracies out there. The real trick is finding out which are crap and which are not. This one is obviously crap.

I haven't heard any "good" conspiracy theories...can you tell me any?

 

I'm not trying to be a prick, just asking out of pure curiosity.

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Mad Tony

 

wow i had no idea there were many disbelievers on man setting foot on the moon. Don't we have tickets now for a few hundred thousands bucks for a trip to the moon anyways? I remember sweeptakes for a chance to win a trip up there, too. idk

They offer flights into space, not onto the moon. I expect a trip to the moon would costs hundreds of billions of dollars more.

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Mike R.L.

I feel the need to drop in on this topic and say, I also do not believe the human race has been to the moon.

 

Why do all that in 1969 through to what, 74? when did the apollo missions end? anyhoo..

 

Why do all that then, when ever since then all we've done is go up into the first layer of space to put up satellites and whatnot? it doesn't make sense. There is so much evidence to support a hoax as well, like the colour cameras used inside the Apollo module on the way to the moon. Buzz filming out the window and what not, but... why use the crappy Black and White camera for the footage of the moon landing? why not the colour cameras the apollo 11 team had (without a doubt) in the LM?

 

Its obvious WHY not, its whether you choose to believe it or not.

 

Man has never walked on the Moon.

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bigmike72

Show me a picture of the lunar rover on the moon and that will shut me up or maybe they could finally scrap up some money and shut the critics up and actually go to the moon god knows that the technology is more advanced now.

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Mad Tony

 

I feel the need to drop in on this topic and say, I also do not believe the human race has been to the moon.

 

Why do all that in 1969 through to what, 74? when did the apollo missions end? anyhoo..

 

Why do all that then, when ever since then all we've done is go up into the first layer of space to put up satellites and whatnot? it doesn't make sense. There is so much evidence to support a hoax as well, like the colour cameras used inside the Apollo module on the way to the moon. Buzz filming out the window and what not, but... why use the crappy Black and White camera for the footage of the moon landing? why not the colour cameras the apollo 11 team had (without a doubt) in the LM?

 

Its obvious WHY not, its whether you choose to believe it or not.

 

Man has never walked on the Moon.

This has already been covered in the thread. Pretty much the whole point of going to the moon was purely to beat the Russians in the space race. That's why nobody's been up there since the 70s. It'd be kind of pointless going now.

 

Seriously, we went to the moon. That is a fact. It's whether or not you choose to believe it.

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K^2
I haven't heard any "good" conspiracy theories...can you tell me any?

That's the problem. If the conspiracy theory sounds good, it can't be a good conspiracy. And you need a really good conspiracy for it to stay a secret. So whatever it is, it's probably the last thing you would have guessed. And even if some shred of good evidence does leak out somewhere, there will be a mass of conspiracy theory lunatics flooding information highways with such quantities of ridiculously fake evidence, that you'll never see it.

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Leftcoast

Here is an interesting example. I was kinda POed the other day about some insurance companies. I insinuated that the insurance companies were at east influenced by gangsters and or criminally minded individuals. (In common english, I said the Ins companies were run by crooks). I was told that I was a crazy conspiracy theorist and that the Ins. companies were run by law abiding upstanding people.

 

The funny thing is the moment this individual has some reason to report a claim on their insurance, they would probably at least begin to agree with me.

 

Getting more to the point, at some point, the conspiracies (the real ones) become so irrefutable, that they turn from a conspiracy into some kind of scandal. To try and say that NO conspiracies exist, is just as crazy as saying that everything is a conspiracy.

 

Yes, some things are conspiracies, and some things are not..... This is the way that it is.

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SanAndreasManiac

I really believe that the moon landing was a hoax

why there hasn't moon exploring after the 70's?

after Nixon's Watergate scandal was undercovered?

that's interesting.....

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Ari Gold
I really believe that the moon landing was a hoax

why there hasn't moon exploring after the 70's?

after Nixon's Watergate scandal was undercovered?

that's interesting.....

Because, you know, as it has been ascertained about a million times in this topic, the reason the United States went to the moon WAS TO BEAT THE RUSSIANS. To BEAT them. Once they BEAT them to it (actually reached the moon a few times), they had no point of going again, hence why they haven't gone since the 1970s. Why do you think now they're trying to go to Mars? Why bother spending millions of dollars going to the Moon for no real purpose, when they're trying to go to Mars? Not to mention the fact that thousands of employees work for NASA; if the landing was in fact a hoax, then surely someone would've leaked the truth by now.

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General Goose

Bart Sibrel's a prick who relies on discredited theories and lies, and it was good when Buzz Aldrin punched him in the face.

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Mad Tony
Bart Sibrel's a prick who relies on discredited theories and lies, and it was good when Buzz Aldrin punched him in the face.

I agree. I feel sorry for Buzz Aldrin though. Imagine how it must feel to do something as significant as walk on the moon but then get heckled for decades after by conspiracy theorists telling you you never went.

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General Goose
Bart Sibrel's a prick who relies on discredited theories and lies, and it was good when Buzz Aldrin punched him in the face.

I agree. I feel sorry for Buzz Aldrin though. Imagine how it must feel to do something as significant as walk on the moon but then get heckled for decades after by conspiracy theorists telling you you never went.

SWEAR ON THE BIBLE>

 

Yeah, he was harassing the astronauts. Someone is using little nitpicks to support a scientifically discredited, implausible theory and then accusing you, an elderly hero, of lying about it, going along with it and milking of off all the goodies that came with it. The way he constantly asked them to swear on the bible. THe astronauts refused. Now, I tried watching Bart Sibrel's Astronauts Gone Wild but couldn't be asked to watch the rest. But the comments were all "Oh, it's very suspicious how they didn't swear on the Bible."

 

It's called maintaining your respect. Some deranged, stupid loony who believes in a conspiracy theory that has been disproved and laid to rest by the sensible population who have a brain wants you to swear on the Bible you did something the world knows you did. Do you give into the man's demands knowing fully well he won't shut up, and thus lose some of your dignity and self-respect in the process? I hope not.

 

Now, I ain't a scientist. I don't exactly understand all the arguments for and against the conspiracy all that well. They sound trivial and well, I kinda trust the scientific majority to be right on this. But, I do understand how implausible it will be to "fake" several moon landings especially on such a scale, what with NASA having so many workers. It was such a large scale project and under such scrutiny, I cannot see how it can be faked. Surely some credible evidence proving the landings were fake would have got out, and not just all the evidence promoting the landings?

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Leftcoast

 

I agree. I feel sorry for Buzz Aldrin though. Imagine how it must feel to do something as significant as walk on the moon but then get heckled for decades after by conspiracy theorists telling you you never went.

 

I'm sure Buzz doesn't care, in fact, he probably thinks they are nuts. It's not like people claiming Saddam Hussein rigged elections, we know this one is false, and we still have yet to hear any legitimate argument to the contrary. For real people, if you thing it was fake, give some legitimate support. Don't just say, "Yah, I still think it was faked". Please let us know what is going on in your cranium.

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Bob_Dole

I'm pretty confident that we did actually land on the moon in '69 but this is still one of my favorite conspiracy theories besides the JFK Assassination of course.

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roryhynes

I've always though that some of the photos and film have been heavily doctored, although I do believe that NASA reached the moon. and that many astronauts have walked about on the surface.

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AB0333

No, videos are not fake. NASA reached the moon.

 

Mythbusters proved it.

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