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Ronnyboy

Moon Landing Conspiracy

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Long Haired Freaky Guy
Is it not more important to find out more about the universe that we live in? I just find it stupid to know that they went to the moon just to beat some other country.

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Mad Tony
Is it not more important to find out more about the universe that we live in? I just find it stupid to know that they went to the moon just to beat some other country.

What else are we gonna find out from going to the moon again? NASA are actively trying to find out more about the universe we live in. That's exactly why they haven't been to the moon for a long time because it just diverts resources from things that might actually bring us answers.

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Leftcoast

 

The reason is, my opinions would just be blasted down and I'd feel stupid, but I hold my opinion and don't want to be attacked just for holding an opinion. I only have the basics to back my opinion up, and as said, you would just lay into them and try to make me feel stupid.

 

One of the main ones that I have always held to is the fact that we haven't landed on the moon since. Technology has advanced by far since then, and so landing on the moon should prove to of a much easier feat, rather then trying to work on advanced robots that can land on the moon and do the job for us.

 

I don't understand much about the whole crosshairs on the picture thing, so going into that would prove pointless as I'd just be copying off a website and trying to prove something that I don't even understand.

 

I just can't be arsed getting attacked for just coming in and saying I don't believe it happened, yet the spammers are let off. 

 

Well, if you don't want to post why you have your opinion, then why bother posting anything in here???

 

Other than that, the advances in Aerospace have not been such that it should be much easier to travel to the moon. The largest problem is still exiting the Earth's gravitaional influence far enough to reach the moon. Rocket propulsion and technology is hardly more advance now that it was then... at least for the purposes of reaching the moon. In fact, the way we travel to space is still fundamentaly the same, so how can it be that much easier to get there.

 

Mad Tony is also right to say that just because we havn't been there since dosn't make the case that we were never there.

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Long Haired Freaky Guy
Well, if you don't want to post why you have your opinion, then why bother posting anything in here???

Yawn, get the f*ck over it, you missed your chance. dozingoff.gif

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philster_12

Well anyway, I think new astronauts should go to th moon and back as a training, so in the future theyd be ready for THE REAL SPACE!

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Leftcoast

 

Yawn, get the f*ck over it, you missed your chance.

 

There isn't anything for me to get over. When I give my opinion here, I am willing to state why I feel that way. Sorry.

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_Rob_

The statement, the moon lander is their is a good one, however think about it, they could have easily sent a moonlander duplicate to teh moon so people in the future would see it, and then filmed it all on a set, you also have to realise the space race is a valid reason to fake the landing because it means once again Americans are better than everyone else, and the American government seems to want this to be the case.

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Leftcoast

 

The statement, the moon lander is their is a good one, however think about it, they could have easily sent a moonlander duplicate to teh moon so people in the future would see it, and then filmed it all on a set, you also have to realise the space race is a valid reason to fake the landing because it means once again Americans are better than everyone else, and the American government seems to want this to be the case.

 

My previous point still stands, no one had the special effects tech to fake the moon landing. Just look at late 60's sci-fi movies, it all looked like crap and no where near the quality of the moon landing. The US government isn't in the business of special effects, they would have had to have use the movie industry and the technology just wasn't there.

 

That being said, please, come up with a reasonable argument before coming in here and saying that the moon landing was a fake.

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Mad Tony
The statement, the moon lander is their is a good one, however think about it, they could have easily sent a moonlander duplicate to teh moon so people in the future would see it, and then filmed it all on a set, you also have to realise the space race is a valid reason to fake the landing because it means once again Americans are better than everyone else, and the American government seems to want this to be the case.

Yeah except as Leftcoast said, they would've had to use technology that didn't exist thus this argument is completely invalid. whatsthat.gif

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Spaghetti Cat

 

The statement, the moon lander is their is a good one, however think about it, they could have easily sent a moonlander duplicate to teh moon so people in the future would see it, and then filmed it all on a set, you also have to realise the space race is a valid reason to fake the landing because it means once again Americans are better than everyone else, and the American government seems to want this to be the case.

 

My previous point still stands, no one had the special effects tech to fake the moon landing. Just look at late 60's sci-fi movies, it all looked like crap and no where near the quality of the moon landing. The US government isn't in the business of special effects, they would have had to have use the movie industry and the technology just wasn't there.

 

That being said, please, come up with a reasonable argument before coming in here and saying that the moon landing was a fake.

Let's take the argument at face value for a second...

 

If the moon landing was faked, how is the waving flag argument valid? Did some lazy stagehand leave the door open the a brisk Arizona wind? How do "actors" wearing 100-200 pounds of space-suits jump several feet off the ground? Stings? No, cromakey was invented several years after. A rock with "C" marked in it? Well you got me there with your tin-foil-hat logic. sarcasm.gif

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_Rob_

If the film is sped up you see the "astronauts" are just jumping normally around, and perhaps the door wasn't left open but a slight breeze inside a warehouse would cause it.

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Tobias Fünke
If the film is sped up you see the "astronauts" are just jumping normally around, and perhaps the door wasn't left open but a slight breeze inside a warehouse would cause it.

Than why didn't they film it again? Do you honestly believe The US government and NASA would create a huge conspiracy just to let it be ruined by something that small?

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ghost of delete key

Sweet tapdancing Jesus.

 

I cannot believe that this bullsh*t persists, and draws yet another 2 pages of contest...

 

Yet again, only Svip has pointed out the obvious, mentioning equipment that was left behind. (Lander, vehicles, cubic reflectors used for telemetrics, etc.)

 

Let me point out what any idiot should be able to figure out himself:

 

YOU CAN SEE THAT SH!T WITH A TELESCOPE ON EARTH!!!!!!!!!

 

There.

I said it.

 

 

 

 

That having been said, I know all you punky, pesky naysayers will continue with great fervor to assert your baseless positions with no more punch than "because I know better" and nose-to-the-painting judgments of what the whole picture is, but I suppose that's what makes you "special".

 

This discussion is a supreme waste of bandwidth, EVERY TIME, and yes it appears time and time again.

 

If I were admin here, not only would I insta-ban the whole lot of you, I'd send Men in Black to your home to deal with you.

 

Have a nice day,

and I don't mean that.

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Otter

Well, you can't deny that it makes for far more interesting discussion than twenty topics about healthcare reform.

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Svip
Well, you can't deny that it makes for far more interesting discussion than twenty topics about healthcare reform.

Honestly, no.

 

Healthcare reform may soon be a dead horse to beat, but the moon landing conspiracy is so dead that we had to create toy horse, so we could actually beat it.

 

The difference here is also, that there is a debate to be had on healthcare. The moon landing basically comes down to one thing:

 

Science vs. idiots

 

That's not an interesting debate. That's just people stating facts and others denying them.

 

Healthcare on the other hand is a far more complex topic to tackle, and it certainly isn't facts vs. denial. It is facts vs. facts and how which facts are more important than others. As such, healthcare is a far more interesting debate, because... it is a debate.

 

Despite the fact that I don't care so much about healthcare. But I'll leave that for the healthcare topic.

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Otter

Pardon my continual beating of this particular dead horse, but science vs idiots will always be interesting. You can't deny that its fun to refute the devil's advocate, even when said devil's advocate is advocating the most absurd theories possible.

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Leftcoast

 

Pardon my continual beating of this particular dead horse, but science vs idiots will always be interesting. You can't deny that its fun to refute the devil's advocate, even when said devil's advocate is advocating the most absurd theories possible.

 

Well I second that 100%.

 

It's also interesting that you can have pages and pages of posts even though there hasn't been any legitimate argument to refute the obvious in who knows how long. I do enjoy reading the posts, hence, I was here this late in the game to post this reply.

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DHoff

Saying the moon landing was a conspiracy is like saying the Holocaust was a conspiracy. But that's just my 2.

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leone 13

i dont think we went, if we did whys the flag blowing on the vidoe? Theres no wind on the moon

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Spaghetti Cat

huh? this topic is still open? ok then...

 

...yes there is wind of the moon. everyone knows that, it comes from all that cheese. don't they still teach these things in school? rolleyes.gif

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leone 13

i get it ,funny cat should be ur name!!

anyway i think it was filmed, u cant see the stars on the moon?!!?!?!?

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Otter
i get it ,funny cat should be ur name!!

anyway i think it was filmed, u cant see the stars on the moon?!!?!?!?

Hey fella.

 

As for the flag, it's actually moving due to gravity. It looks like it's fluttering, because the flag was formed to look like it was blowing in the wind.

 

As for the Stars - how many stars can you see during the day? They are incredibly faint compared to the sun.

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Ad Rem

Why bother typing down the explanation when I can just embed a YouTube video?

 

 

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spaceeinstein

I remember back when I was little Fox aired this show that suppose to say the moon landing is a hoax because stars weren't visible in the sky. Even I wasn't that dumb, the brightness of the surface of the moon is drowning out the lights of the dim stars! That made the whole show instantly discredited. I can't believe people would believe that.

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Ad Rem

If someone still has some doubt in their heart though, take a look at the dust that flies around when the astronauts are hopping about. There's no way it would blow six feet away if the gravity was that of Earth.

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Tobias Fünke

The government was clearly using anti-gravity devices they stole from the UFO that crash landed in Roswell. Which was shot down by a laser beam from the lost city of Atlantis.

 

Do you believe everything the government tells you? sarcasm.gif

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TV1213

WE WENT PERIOD.

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Our Lord & Savior

I've always been interested in how people can allow themselves to be deluded enough to believe the moon landings were faked, so I came up with this all-in-one handy dandy question to silence any and all of the critics.

 

If the moon landings were faked, then why did the Soviet Union not call out the United States on their bluff?

 

At that time, both countries were bitterly engaged in the Space Race. If the Russians thought it was faked, as they could have easily detected with their technological might, why would they not have publicly announced that it was faked? What did they have to lose? Clearly, if there was any chance at all that it was faked, they would have done so, and in so strike a devastating blow to the morale of the entire United States and shamed beyond recognition NASA and everyone involved with the program.

 

The only answer to the above question would be that the Soviet Union and the United States were in cahoots, but to what end? Then you start having to drag in the notion of a giant, secret world government like the Illuminati, in which case you lose all credibility.

 

The end. The moon was visited in 1969 and many times after. You'll notice that all the critics who talk about how we didn't go to the moon have no formal training in any field, let alone any space-related field of science.

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K^2
This completely obliterates any ideas about the Moon Landing being a hoax:

 

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

 

If you still believe it was a hoax after reading this, you're f*cking retarded.

If you think that link provides any proof that moon landings happened, you fail at reading comprehension. It debunks various proofs that it was a hoax, and does it well enough. But showing that there is no evidence for the hoax is not proof that there was no hoax.

 

 

If the moon landings were faked, then why did the Soviet Union not call out the United States on their bluff?

And that would do Soviet Union any good? You point out yourself that Soviets and US were rivals. If Soviets were to claim that US didn't land, everyone would assume they are fabricating any evidence to that end, AND it would make them look like sore looses. As soon as US presents believable proof that they did go, Soviet Union is forced to go along with it, regardless of whether or not they think it actually took place. The only way that Soviets could save face in the situation is to pretend that they had no serious intentions for the Moon, and their goal was Mars. And that's exactly what they did.

 

Now, you can make arguments on how unlikely it is for such information not to have surfaced after collapse of Soviet Union, but that just goes into long list of circumstantial evidence suggesting that Moon Landing has most likely happened. It is by no means a proof that it certainly happened. We do not possess such a proof. The closest we get to 'proof' is that some of the shots from Apollo missions would be ridiculously difficult to fake, and it would be cheaper to just go. Especially if you consider that at very least, an unmanned mission would need to take place either way.

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