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Ronnyboy

Moon Landing Conspiracy

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Spaghetti Cat

I put this in another topic about landing on the moon 40 years ago...

 

 

user posted image

 

 

Landing site is in the center, whats left of the lander is casting a shadow.

 

There are better photos of the later missions here...

 

 

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poopskin
I mean, really, this stuff is just idiotic.

Welcome to the world of conspiracy theories.

I can agree with you on that.

Thirded. and just to piss off the NWOers, i <3 Big Brother.

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Long Haired Freaky Guy

I've never really got into the whole Moon Landing conspiracy theories, but in my opinion the moon landing was a fake. I need to read more into it to be able to debate it, but I don't think my opinion will change.

 

Plus, would the camera man not have been first person to walk on the moon?

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Mike Tequeli
I've never really got into the whole Moon Landing conspiracy theories, but in my opinion the moon landing was a fake. I need to read more into it to be able to debate it, but I don't think my opinion will change.

 

Plus, would the camera man not have been first person to walk on the moon?

I've always been surprised at how willingly people will embrace their own ignorance.

 

And yes the camera man was the first on the moon, Neil Armstrong.

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SWEETSAPRIK
This particular conspiracy theory is one that I don't even bother arguing about anymore. At this point, every question, every bit of so called "evidence", and every example of ignorance and misinformation has literally been addressed thousands of times already. Anyone who still thinks there is any doubt will never be convinced. You could take them to the damn moon and they'd still argue it's not possible. There's really no point even trying to educate people like that.

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Leftcoast

 

No, you have misunderstood me.

They landed, took photograpghs, which were not good enough. So The images and recordings we see are in a studio set.

Maybe some of the ones we see are genuine, like the breath taking shots of Earth, but the ones with the flaws... my opinion is that the origionals didn't come out well enough to be substabtial proof to the commines... hence the mistakes in the re-shot versions.

 

Ok, Star Wars came out 8 years later and it didn't look as genuine as the moon landing. And NO, the government could not have done a better job with special effects than the actual experts. Though certain people in the government are sneaky and good at other devious feats, they are not movie makers and do not possess the skills to have faked the moon landing in 1969. If they had the necessary special effects in 1969 to do so, then the special effects would have already existed in the movies at the time. We all know how horrible the special effects were in late 60's movies. So, this should be definitive proof that we did in fact land on the moon.

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Long Haired Freaky Guy

 

I've never really got into the whole Moon Landing conspiracy theories, but in my opinion the moon landing was a fake. I need to read more into it to be able to debate it, but I don't think my opinion will change.

 

Plus, would the camera man not have been first person to walk on the moon?

I've always been surprised at how willingly people will embrace their own ignorance.

Never mind....can't be arsed explaining myself...

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Mad Tony
I've never really got into the whole Moon Landing conspiracy theories, but in my opinion the moon landing was a fake. I need to read more into it to be able to debate it, but I don't think my opinion will change.

 

Plus, would the camera man not have been first person to walk on the moon?

I've always been surprised at how willingly people will embrace their own ignorance.

Never mind....can't be arsed explaining myself...

Well it's not good coming on here claiming the moon landing was a fake but then refusing to explain why or how when your opinion is challenged.

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Long Haired Freaky Guy

 

I've never really got into the whole Moon Landing conspiracy theories, but in my opinion the moon landing was a fake. I need to read more into it to be able to debate it, but I don't think my opinion will change.

 

Plus, would the camera man not have been first person to walk on the moon?

I've always been surprised at how willingly people will embrace their own ignorance.

Never mind....can't be arsed explaining myself...

Well it's not good coming on here claiming the moon landing was a fake but then refusing to explain why or how when your opinion is challenged.

It wasn't a claim, it was stating my opinion on the matter. dozingoff.gif

 

As Sweets said, if you already have your opinion on a conspiracy theory, then you're going to stick to it, and no matter how much anyone argues against you, you stick to your belief. It's the same with any conspiracy theory, such as the whole 9/11 thing; you either believe that Bush was in on it, or that it truly was a terrorist attack.

 

I have my opinion on this matter and am not repeating stuff that's already been said just to stop some kids on an internet site trying to attack me. dozingoff.gif

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Vercetti21

Do you at least have a logical reason that led you to believe the original moon landing is fake?

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Saggy
I've never really got into the whole Moon Landing conspiracy theories, but in my opinion the moon landing was a fake. I need to read more into it to be able to debate it, but I don't think my opinion will change.

 

Plus, would the camera man not have been first person to walk on the moon?

I've always been surprised at how willingly people will embrace their own ignorance.

Never mind....can't be arsed explaining myself...

Well it's not good coming on here claiming the moon landing was a fake but then refusing to explain why or how when your opinion is challenged.

It wasn't a claim, it was stating my opinion on the matter. dozingoff.gif

 

As Sweets said, if you already have your opinion on a conspiracy theory, then you're going to stick to it, and no matter how much anyone argues against you, you stick to your belief. It's the same with any conspiracy theory, such as the whole 9/11 thing; you either believe that Bush was in on it, or that it truly was a terrorist attack.

 

I have my opinion on this matter and am not repeating stuff that's already been said just to stop some kids on an internet site trying to attack me. dozingoff.gif

Well, one of the points of the D&D is that it's supposed to be a venue for deeper discussion than just stating your opinion and not elaborating. I mean, at least you were honest in that you didn't have much to say on it, but this isn't really the place for that. If you could at least comment on one or two of the already stated things, just for reference, at least we'd get a sense of where you're coming from.

 

Personally I think to try to prove a conspiracy and theorize how they may have kept it covered up for so many years is far more complex and convoluted than the actual technology that really got us there. I mean, I can't recount how many times I've seen a different NASA scientists offer up a simple provable explanation to something that people go, "Aha," or try to explain with something huge.

 

Like the waving flag for example. There is actually a horizontal support that goes along the top of the flag, and that combined with the inertial forces from a low atmosphere and lower gravity, caused the flag to keep waving for longer than it should after Buzz Aldron waved it a little bit to get it into the ground.

 

 

Then aside from that, there's there one thing that proves we were there beyond a shadow of a doubt, and it's a little mirror surface that we have on the moon that we should laser beams at for scientific data. Now I guess the dozens if not hundreds of universities or otherwise independent facilities are all involved in the conspiracy.... Nah, we were there.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/21jul_llr.htm

 

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Mad Tony

Don't forget the Russians who tracked the shuttle. I'm sure if they uncovered that it was all a hoax they'd expose it as soon as possible. Unless of course... they're in on it too.

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Wanted Assailant

It's so ridiculous that I don't even care about theories like these anymore.

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XXI Inc

Pride is bullsh*t!

 

Ontopic: This is something too big to be faked.

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james227uk

I fully believe we went to the moon. Apparently, the flag waved because they expected the moons surface to be soft, like sand, but it wasn't. The flag didn't go in properly because the surface is rock. Still, why I agree it shouldn't have waved without air on the moon, I still think it's possible for it to wave.

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BigAmericanTitties
I fully believe we went to the moon. Apparently, the flag waved because they expected the moons surface to be soft, like sand, but it wasn't. The flag didn't go in properly because the surface is rock. Still, why I agree it shouldn't have waved without air on the moon, I still think it's possible for it to wave.

It only waved when one of the astronauts was moving it. The only reason the flag stayed up is because there was a horizontal rod going from the top of the base pole. So when the astronauts were adjusting it, they were making the flag wave.

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John The Grudge

I'm certain that they did go to the moon. Just listen to Buzz Aldrin speak. That enthiusiasm is for real. He once punched a man for suggesting it was faked. He's definately been to the moon and is deperate for humans to be sent to Mars. Plus Armstrong was at the time probably one of the greatest pilots alive. I can't imagine somebody like him being complicite in such a charade. I imagine he was eager to test himself by going to the moon.

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Niall

Just ask the moon.

 

 

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philster_12

do we have a Astronaut who went to the moon, here in GTAF, if we have one then lets just ask him,

 

Or Find an Astraunaut's blog on the Internet

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Tobias Fünke
do we have a Astronaut who went to the moon, here in GTAF, if we have one then lets just ask him,

 

Or Find an Astraunaut's blog on the Internet

We have a large population of 60 year old astronauts here on GTAF.

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philster_12
do we have a Astronaut who went to the moon, here in GTAF, if we have one then lets just ask him,

 

Or Find an Astraunaut's blog on the Internet

We have a large population of 60 year old astronauts here on GTAF.

Good, Now lets just find this Astraunaut and ask him.

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Long Haired Freaky Guy
So I get flamed for voicing my opinion, but no one has said anything about the last few posts, which have clearly not been serious...

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Mad Tony

I think it's because you still haven't explained why you think they were faked. Normally when somebody says something as absurd as "the moon landings were fake" people expect that person to elaborate further as to why they think this.

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Long Haired Freaky Guy
I think it's because you still haven't explained why you think they were faked. Normally when somebody says something as absurd as "the moon landings were fake" people expect that person to elaborate further as to why they think this.

If you read my post properly, you will see that I said that it was my personal opinion on the matter, and that it was pointless to explain why as it has all been said before. As I also stated, everyone has their opinion on everything that happens in the world, and we will stick to our belief regardless of what other people say.

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Mike Tequeli
I think it's because you still haven't explained why you think they were faked. Normally when somebody says something as absurd as "the moon landings were fake" people expect that person to elaborate further as to why they think this.

If you read my post properly, you will see that I said that it was my personal opinion on the matter, and that it was pointless to explain why as it has all been said before. As I also stated, everyone has their opinion on everything that happens in the world, and we will stick to our belief regardless of what other people say.

Well this is Debates and Discussions, keep opinions to yourself if you can't back them up. At least cite certain sources or posts or something.

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Mad Tony
I think it's because you still haven't explained why you think they were faked. Normally when somebody says something as absurd as "the moon landings were fake" people expect that person to elaborate further as to why they think this.

If you read my post properly, you will see that I said that it was my personal opinion on the matter, and that it was pointless to explain why as it has all been said before. As I also stated, everyone has their opinion on everything that happens in the world, and we will stick to our belief regardless of what other people say.

I know it's your opinion. You keep on repeating this and avoiding giving any reasons WHY you think the moon landings were faked. As Mike just pointed out, this is D&D. It's pointless to post your opinion on something without actually saying what makes you think that.

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Long Haired Freaky Guy
I think it's because you still haven't explained why you think they were faked. Normally when somebody says something as absurd as "the moon landings were fake" people expect that person to elaborate further as to why they think this.

If you read my post properly, you will see that I said that it was my personal opinion on the matter, and that it was pointless to explain why as it has all been said before. As I also stated, everyone has their opinion on everything that happens in the world, and we will stick to our belief regardless of what other people say.

Well this is Debates and Discussions, keep opinions to yourself if you can't back them up. At least cite certain sources or posts or something.

I find it funny that you totally avoid the point of my post, and still decide to try and get a reaction out of me. Why don't you actually spend time on the 'spammers' who are talking about astronauts on this forum? dozingoff.gif

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Mad Tony
I think it's because you still haven't explained why you think they were faked. Normally when somebody says something as absurd as "the moon landings were fake" people expect that person to elaborate further as to why they think this.

If you read my post properly, you will see that I said that it was my personal opinion on the matter, and that it was pointless to explain why as it has all been said before. As I also stated, everyone has their opinion on everything that happens in the world, and we will stick to our belief regardless of what other people say.

Well this is Debates and Discussions, keep opinions to yourself if you can't back them up. At least cite certain sources or posts or something.

I find it funny that you totally avoid the point of my post, and still decide to try and get a reaction out of me. Why don't you actually spend time on the 'spammers' who are talking about astronauts on this forum? dozingoff.gif

I don't want a reaction out of you, I just want to know why you think the moon landings were hoaxed. Perhaps then we could have a proper debate instead of just you going "It's my opinion" without giving any reasons.

 

If I told you I thought the Earth was flat you'd be more than justified in asking for the reasons why I held this particular view.

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Long Haired Freaky Guy
I think it's because you still haven't explained why you think they were faked. Normally when somebody says something as absurd as "the moon landings were fake" people expect that person to elaborate further as to why they think this.

If you read my post properly, you will see that I said that it was my personal opinion on the matter, and that it was pointless to explain why as it has all been said before. As I also stated, everyone has their opinion on everything that happens in the world, and we will stick to our belief regardless of what other people say.

Well this is Debates and Discussions, keep opinions to yourself if you can't back them up. At least cite certain sources or posts or something.

I find it funny that you totally avoid the point of my post, and still decide to try and get a reaction out of me. Why don't you actually spend time on the 'spammers' who are talking about astronauts on this forum? dozingoff.gif

I don't want a reaction out of you, I just want to know why you think the moon landings were hoaxed. Perhaps then we could have a proper debate instead of just you going "It's my opinion" without giving any reasons.

 

If I told you I thought the Earth was flat you'd be more than justified in asking for the reasons why I held this particular view.

The reason is, my opinions would just be blasted down and I'd feel stupid, but I hold my opinion and don't want to be attacked just for holding an opinion. I only have the basics to back my opinion up, and as said, you would just lay into them and try to make me feel stupid.

 

One of the main ones that I have always held to is the fact that we haven't landed on the moon since. Technology has advanced by far since then, and so landing on the moon should prove to of a much easier feat, rather then trying to work on advanced robots that can land on the moon and do the job for us.

 

I don't understand much about the whole crosshairs on the picture thing, so going into that would prove pointless as I'd just be copying off a website and trying to prove something that I don't even understand.

 

I just can't be arsed getting attacked for just coming in and saying I don't believe it happened, yet the spammers are let off. dontgetit.gif

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Mad Tony

 

I think it's because you still haven't explained why you think they were faked. Normally when somebody says something as absurd as "the moon landings were fake" people expect that person to elaborate further as to why they think this.

If you read my post properly, you will see that I said that it was my personal opinion on the matter, and that it was pointless to explain why as it has all been said before. As I also stated, everyone has their opinion on everything that happens in the world, and we will stick to our belief regardless of what other people say.

Well this is Debates and Discussions, keep opinions to yourself if you can't back them up. At least cite certain sources or posts or something.

I find it funny that you totally avoid the point of my post, and still decide to try and get a reaction out of me. Why don't you actually spend time on the 'spammers' who are talking about astronauts on this forum? dozingoff.gif

I don't want a reaction out of you, I just want to know why you think the moon landings were hoaxed. Perhaps then we could have a proper debate instead of just you going "It's my opinion" without giving any reasons.

 

If I told you I thought the Earth was flat you'd be more than justified in asking for the reasons why I held this particular view.

The reason is, my opinions would just be blasted down and I'd feel stupid, but I hold my opinion and don't want to be attacked just for holding an opinion. I only have the basics to back my opinion up, and as said, you would just lay into them and try to make me feel stupid.

 

One of the main ones that I have always held to is the fact that we haven't landed on the moon since. Technology has advanced by far since then, and so landing on the moon should prove to of a much easier feat, rather then trying to work on advanced robots that can land on the moon and do the job for us.

 

I don't understand much about the whole crosshairs on the picture thing, so going into that would prove pointless as I'd just be copying off a website and trying to prove something that I don't even understand.

 

I just can't be arsed getting attacked for just coming in and saying I don't believe it happened, yet the spammers are let off. dontgetit.gif

I'm sorry but that's a pretty lame reason. At least if you give reasons it shows that you are willing to put your point across and debate it with others. Wait, when did I say I would try to make you feel stupid? confused.gif

 

Ah, finally, a reason. icon14.gif

 

The reason we haven't been to the moon since the early 70s is because getting to the moon was mainly about beating the Russians in the space race. What's the point of going there again when we've already won the race? It would be just a huge waste of money.

 

I wasn't trying to make you look stupid there, by the way, I was just giving you my response.

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