Slamman Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) I want only solo recordings and live material regarding the two former "New Yardbirds" members discussed here, no Led Zeppelin, that's for the Zep Thread on page three...currently. Here I wanna hear (read) about your first time seeing either Jimmy Page (tour with Black Crowes or Solid Ground?) and Robert Plant... who also played with The Black Crowes opening in 1990. What tracks or albums are your favorites, and describe how you enjoyed any live shows you saw. For the record, saw Plant in 1990, saw Page and Plant on their tour here locally as well, years later. Never thought it would happen. Plant and Page also did Knebworth in 1990 for the Nordoff-Robins benefit show, and that was out on DVD as well as broadcast at the time in full. Jimmy Page released his solo Outrider album in 1988 with Plant joining in vocals on a song entitled; The Only One. A song so good, it could be new Zep, and left us thinking the new Zep was not far off, in fact!! Robert was out on tour in support of Manic Nirvana, and I bought Now and Zen soon after, IIRC, but that made me take a vested interest in his solo work after Zep and Coda in the early 1980s. Pictures at 11, Principle of Moments, and with the two or three albums under his OWN wing, he said the Spectre of Zeppelin that had loomed so large for him, was not so painful that he could once again incorporate the Zep legacy back into his live set. You may be blissfully unaware, but after John Bonham's death, it was too fresh (the pain) for Robert in particular to examine what had happened to Zeppelin. His live shows were all his solo work until the time when infusion of Zep sampling to Now and Zen.. late 1980s... well, the reunion rumors were in the air again. Sadly, Robert Plant's last album was not a major hit, but released under the radar, and now he's out with Allison Krous, in a seemingly odd pairing. Still, two of the most respected musicians continue producing music for our benefit. My Hats off to both of them, long may they rock forth... Edited August 20, 2008 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Who the hell were the "Yardbards?" Anyway...P&P do not Zep make...you still see them live if you can. Unfortunately I was unable to back in '98 when they did their tour together in support of the Walking Into Clarksdale album. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiekid Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Who the hell were the "Yardbards?" You're kidding, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJimmy Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Who the hell were the "Yardbards?" Are you f*cking serious? Slamman, I'm learning more and more that you have an AWESOME taste in music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Who the hell were the "Yardbards?" You're kidding, right? No I'm not. They were the "Yardbirds." "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 I'm using the term coined for them when they formed, or it WAS the name of Led Zeppelin before Keith Moon said anything! The New Yardbirds...not the Yardbirds specifically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makeshyft Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Goddamnit... he was saying that you wrote "Yardbards", not "Yardbirds". He was pointing out a typo. Then three people failed to realise this. Nobody reads anymore. Read people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiekid Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Haha shiiiiit. I did read that. Whoops. Well, I figured by the way you said "Who the hell are the Yardbards" I figured you made the typo and had no idea who they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 "Wonderful One" off of the No Quarter album is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 I type by memory, more then looking at the letters, but some-damn-how I managed to muck that up 3 times, I fixed it though! Wonderful One is mellow. I like the video and I picked up the CD of the same Unledded show used, so that was a nice find. Walking into Clarksdale is not as concise an effort. Of course they were making an effort not to rehash as much of the old library. I think the new Zep reunion is set for DVD or CD release, last I heard. If you missed the Atlantic Records B-day performance, you owe yourself a look at that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 I type by memory, more then looking at the letters, but some-damn-how I managed to muck that up 3 times, I fixed it though! Wonderful One is mellow. I like the video and I picked up the CD of the same Unledded show used, so that was a nice find. Walking into Clarksdale is not as concise an effort. Of course they were making an effort not to rehash as much of the old library. I think the new Zep reunion is set for DVD or CD release, last I heard. If you missed the Atlantic Records B-day performance, you owe yourself a look at that one! People always say the Atlantic anniversary gig sucked, but actually, in the venue, the show sounded good (even though Page was drunk off his ass). It was the way the audio was broadcast to TV that made it sound like crap. Walking into Clarksdale's lyrics are miles and miles above anything Zeppelin has done. However the instrumentation and basic arrangement of the music wasn't very good. They should have dropped the middle eastern crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 Dropped the middles Eastern influence? Many say it's infused to Zep from it's earliest days. The trip that inspired the songs from 1975 was where it really got ingrained into Plant and Page (Kashmir...just heard it on radio last night, still ACE!). I don't recall anything being off about the 40th Anniversary broadcast, if you compare it to Knebworth 90, that was not the tightest, but still very pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Dropped the middles Eastern influence? Many say it's infused to Zep from it's earliest days. The trip that inspired the songs from 1975 was where it really got ingrained into Plant and Page (Kashmir...just heard it on radio last night, still ACE!). I don't recall anything being off about the 40th Anniversary broadcast, if you compare it to Knebworth 90, that was not the tightest, but still very pro. Yes, but they drove too much into it to the point of the songs being annoying. I also hate Kashmir. At the 40th anniversary gig, they showed up four hours late and Page was incredibly drunk. The guitar was broadcast really muffled and terrible sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 If you hate Kashmir, I can't really say you're a Zeppelin fan, can I? I love virtually all their work. I've yet to get Plant's last solo album, and I admit, Page, as a influence on British rock, kinda demanded my looking at his work as a solo artist, with Coverdale and in 1988 on Outrider. Still. No one can touch Plant's voice... and given the 70s excess was about the flaunting shirtless sexuality it seems, in the general public, which you see interviews with Plant, Page, or any other Zeppelin musician, they seem very down to Earth grounded for their stature. I found all the Satanist statements I was learning to seem rather obviously offbase when you first hear a soft-spoken Jimmy Page talking. Just cause he bought Aleister's old house and had fleeting interest in the occult...oh, and trashed hotel rooms and bedded countless groupies?? Hammer of the Gods, indeed. Haha Anyway, I am truly glad they at least paired up more then one, post-Zep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 If you hate Kashmir, I can't really say you're a Zeppelin fan, can I? I love virtually all their work. I've yet to get Plant's last solo album, and I admit, Page, as a influence on British rock, kinda demanded my looking at his work as a solo artist, with Coverdale and in 1988 on Outrider. Still. No one can touch Plant's voice... and given the 70s excess was about the flaunting shirtless sexuality it seems, in the general public, which you see interviews with Plant, Page, or any other Zeppelin musician, they seem very down to Earth grounded for their stature. I found all the Satanist statements I was learning to seem rather obviously offbase when you first hear a soft-spoken Jimmy Page talking. Just cause he bought Aleister's old house and had fleeting interest in the occult...oh, and trashed hotel rooms and bedded countless groupies?? Hammer of the Gods, indeed. Haha Anyway, I am truly glad they at least paired up more then one, post-Zep I love every Zeppelin song except for Hot Dog, Kashmir and Stairway to Heaven (the first is just a crappy song, Kashmir is repetitive and overrated and Stairway is just overrated). Jimmy is still an occultist, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makeshyft Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Kashmir is a great song to have on in the background while you're doing something. Also, it's a really great party song, fun to turn up when you're half-cut. I can see what you mean about it being repetitive, though. I can't really just sit and listen to it on its own steam. Stairway has been played to death. While I still think it's a great song, I have heard it too many times to really enjoy it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 If you hate Kashmir, I can't really say you're a Zeppelin fan, can I? I don't think that's exactly fair, I'm assuming there's a lot of Zep' fans that don't like Kashmir. To completely disregard someone's opinion as a fan because they don't like one popular song is a little narrow minded. And speaking of Jimmy Page, I had the pleasure of seeing him play with the Foo Fighters in June, performing Rock N' Roll and Ramble On. Fantastic playing and excellent choice of songs. If only they did Black Dog also, that would have been fantastic. But anyway, I digress, I've yet to listen to a P & P collaboration since the heyday of Led Zeppelin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 If you hate Kashmir, I can't really say you're a Zeppelin fan, can I? I don't think that's exactly fair, I'm assuming there's a lot of Zep' fans that don't like Kashmir. To completely disregard someone's opinion as a fan because they don't like one popular song is a little narrow minded. And speaking of Jimmy Page, I had the pleasure of seeing him play with the Foo Fighters in June, performing Rock N' Roll and Ramble On. Fantastic playing and excellent choice of songs. If only they did Black Dog also, that would have been fantastic. But anyway, I digress, I've yet to listen to a P & P collaboration since the heyday of Led Zeppelin. You're really lucky. John Paul Jones was there too! Although the vocalist kinda screwed up Ramble On from the videos I've seen. Look up "Page and Plant Unledded" on Youtube. It's their Unplugged performance from the nineties. Best performances of that night: "Wonderful One" (not a Zep song) () "The Rain Song" (cut from the CD! The bastards!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-jCNySpWiM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-jCNySpWiM&feature=related) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 I've not met a Zep fan who doesn't like Kashmir. Rather then the predictible "Stairway to Heaven", Kashmir is Plant's own personal fav Zep track, last time he was questioned anout it...anyway. I love when they do Stairway and That's the Way live. The instrumental Zep numbers are unequalled as well! JPJ got the cold shoulder though he wanted to take part, and I think that's pretty sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I've not met a Zep fan who doesn't like Kashmir. Rather then the predictible "Stairway to Heaven", Kashmir is Plant's own personal fav Zep track, last time he was questioned anout it...anyway.I love when they do Stairway and That's the Way live. The instrumental Zep numbers are unequalled as well! JPJ got the cold shoulder though he wanted to take part, and I think that's pretty sad Plant has always been a dick to JPJ. I remember one instance either from 75 or 77, everyone except for JPJ was high or drunk and they screwed up No Quarter big time. Jonesy, being the best musician in the group, saved them all from getting booed and started a boogy that trumped them all, and basically saved the gig. After the set was over, Plant said something like "well at least we can play in the pool hall" or whatever. If I were JPJ I woulda punched him in the mouth. Plant was up there high on coke, strutting, being a rockstar while JPJ was working his ass off! Kashmir is cheesy and repetitive BTW. Achilles and The rain song are the best tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) I don't think JPJ takes things hard on the chin, but I never understood the reasoning. I got the Principle of Moments on CD and at least, Pictures at 11 on LP. The song Big Log was an instant classic. Other Arms got airplay here as well, but not anymore, sadly. EDIT add... I whipped out Page and the Crowes CD, still a great listen! I would recommend one track if you iTune it (D/L to sample), "Your Time is Gonna Come"! Edited August 27, 2008 by Slamman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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