They could have let us fly the planes.

[cruisx]

Hav any of you guys seen those jets t the airport yet? I know you cant flay them but i was looking at the closely last night and they seem to be just locked. Like they seem flyable but locked by the devs. you can see through the front windshield, hang man online mode has a man coming out of the jet and the jet even has an interior. I jut wish they had let us fly them =\. Anyone else think that i might be right? who knows they might unlock them later.

[t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m]

I hope we at least get some small planes like the Dodo.

[Werven]

DLC will probably end up adding alot of things.

[Furnace]

Hav any of you guys seen those jets t the airport yet? I know you cant flay them but i was looking at the closely last night and they seem to be just locked. Like they seem flyable but locked by the devs. you can see through the front windshield, hang man online mode has a man coming out of the jet and the jet even has an interior. I jut wish they had let us fly them =\. Anyone else think that i might be right? who knows they might unlock them later.

It was a very early decision not to allow planes, on account of there being only one airport and a small geographical map area, so I doubt they'll let you fly them in a patch and go back on what they said originally. It sucks, but heeey, the choppers are a laugh.

[t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m]

Still, they could add a little more land to the shores for DLC.

[ViceCityNative4Life]

Honestly, I don't miss the planes. The choppers are more fun for me. I could do w/o the planes. The only good thing about the planes are bailing out and parachuting, but you could do that in a chopper. Other than that, I find the planes boring to fly. If they were to have planes in the game, I would want like what they did in sa, where you can buy a ticket and the game flys for you, and you can skip the trip and it will take you right to the landing.

[Starion]

 

It was a very early decision not to allow planes, on account of there being only one airport and a small geographical map area, so I doubt they'll let you fly them in a patch and go back on what they said originally. It sucks, but heeey, the choppers are a laugh.

GTA: Vice City Stories only had one airport and a small geographical map area, but that had planes.

 

 

I would love to jump out of a plane at max speed without a parachute, and watch Euphoria kick in as Niko gets slammed on the trees, buildings, pavement, etc.

 

Planes will be in the next GTA, because the next GTA will not be based on New York, meaning no 12 year old kids reanacting 9/11 and putting the video on Youtube.

Edited August 18, 2008 by Starion

[Crosby]

It would be to weave in and out of the buildings in a plane.

Landing it on the streets/sidewalks is a fun challenge too.

"Opps-sorry about hacking your face off with the propeller pedestrian."

 

Edit: They could at least give us the clipped wing plane in GTA III.

I became a master at flying that thing.

Edited August 18, 2008 by Crosby

[waro]

The only reason that they dont have planes is coz of the videos theyd be getting. Supposedly they had an airport somewhere else but had to remove it so they didnt have planes. This would only be a sh*tty airport like the one u get on san andreas. The removed it as the games in new york so people would send vids in saying omg its happened again with wids crashing into a building. However the next gta is set in miami/vice city so expect a larger map than the old vice city so there is room for planes and much more.

[t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m]

The only reason that they dont have planes is coz of the videos theyd be getting. Supposedly they had an airport somewhere else but had to remove it so they didnt have planes. This would only be a sh*tty airport like the one u get on san andreas. The removed it as the games in new york so people would send vids in saying omg its happened again with wids crashing into a building. However the next gta is set in miami/vice city so expect a larger map than the old vice city so there is room for planes and much more.

I don't think they were cut due to 9/11. And where did you read the next GTA is in Vice City again?

[TheSamurai Hobo]

 

The only reason that they dont have planes is coz of the videos theyd be getting. Supposedly they had an airport somewhere else but had to remove it so they didnt have planes. This would only be a sh*tty airport like the one u get on san andreas. The removed it as the games in new york so people would send vids in saying omg its happened again with wids crashing into a building. However the next gta is set in miami/vice city so expect a larger map than the old vice city so there is room for planes and much more.

bull

 

Where is it said that's the reason? Where does it say next GTA is in VC?

[cruisx]

The only reason that they dont have planes is coz of the videos theyd be getting. Supposedly they had an airport somewhere else but had to remove it so they didnt have planes. This would only be a sh*tty airport like the one u get on san andreas. The removed it as the games in new york so people would send vids in saying omg its happened again with wids crashing into a building. However the next gta is set in miami/vice city so expect a larger map than the old vice city so there is room for planes and much more.

I don't think they were cut due to 9/11. And where did you read the next GTA is in Vice City again?

It probably was the 9/11 thing. You have so many big buildings that you could crash into and some people would probably would do it to. They could have atleast given us parachutes ='( oh well i am sure the PC one will get modded.

[Toxicity²]

The only reason that they dont have planes is coz of the videos theyd be getting. Supposedly they had an airport somewhere else but had to remove it so they didnt have planes. This would only be a sh*tty airport like the one u get on san andreas. The removed it as the games in new york so people would send vids in saying omg its happened again with wids crashing into a building. However the next gta is set in miami/vice city so expect a larger map than the old vice city so there is room for planes and much more.

I don't think they were cut due to 9/11. And where did you read the next GTA is in Vice City again?

It probably was the 9/11 thing. You have so many big buildings that you could crash into and some people would probably would do it to. They could have atleast given us parachutes ='( oh well i am sure the PC one will get modded.

If the planes were removed because of 9/11 then there wouldn't have been planes in Vice City or San Andreas.

 

They were removed because GTA IV just wasn't big enough to justify planes.

[BioVirus]

The reason can't be because it is too small to use planes.

 

Grand Theft Auto III had a Dodo plane.

Grand Theft Auto Vice City also had a plane.

Vice City Stories also had a plane.

 

 

The reason it was not included in GTA IV is because they don't want to be seen as a 9/11 Simulator.

Edited August 18, 2008 by BioVirus

[Werven]

Why would having a plane make it a 9/11 simulator? If you crash into a building it stays intact and you die in the process.

[Crosby]

 

The reason it was not included in GTA IV is because they don't want to be seen as a 9/11 Simulator.

Source? I think they pulled the plug on planes, because

the frame rate wouldn't keep up with a fast moving plane

very well.

[cimt]

Also, these new engines probably wouldn't be able to handle it. The draw distance isn't very good either, so that's another reason why. They'll be looking for work arounds.

[BioVirus]

The good news is that a new GTA should come out within 2 years.

 

They already have everything set up for the PS3/360.

 

 

The time between GTA III and VC was only 1 year, and then 2 years for the masterpiece San Andreas.

 

 

GTA IV laid the framework down, so now the time inbetween GTA's will be only 1 or 2 years and they will have more experience and add a lot more things.

 

 

[CryptReaperDorian]

 

The reason it was not included in GTA IV is because they don't want to be seen as a 9/11 Simulator.

Source? I think they pulled the plug on planes, because

the frame rate wouldn't keep up with a fast moving plane

very well.

I think it's the framerate too. I mean the Boeing 767 (GTA SA's AT-400 and the airliners that crashed into the World Trade Center buildings) goes like 6,000-7,600 mph (5,200-6,590 nautical mph) which is about 28 to 36 times faster than the Infernus in which the framerate has troubles keeping up to. San Andreas had flyable planes and bad framerate but the planes only went probably 200-250 mph.

[BioVirus]

There are planes that go slow, about the speed of a helicopter. A propellor aircraft like the Dodo in GTA III, VC, and SA. That would have solved the problem.

 

However, RockStar staff already gave an "official" excuse. They said there was only one airport and the game is too small for one.

 

We know that they are lying because GTA III is smaller than GTA IV. GTA III also had one airport, yet it didn't matter.

 

In all honesty, nobody cares about a second airport. You are flying over the city, when you are done, you go back and land in the airport. Most players will land in a busy intersection full of cars, anyway.

 

 

The real reason is to protect themselves from being called a 9/11 simulator. Hot coffee scandal, anyone?

Edited August 19, 2008 by BioVirus

[CarbonSpaceTime]

I really think these episode packs will be just additional stuff related to the storyline and missions. Some character added dialogue and stuff. Nothing else.

[jimmylh]

 

 

The reason it was not included in GTA IV is because they don't want to be seen as a 9/11 Simulator.

Source? I think they pulled the plug on planes, because

the frame rate wouldn't keep up with a fast moving plane

very well.

I think it's the framerate too. I mean the Boeing 767 (GTA SA's AT-400 and the airliners that crashed into the World Trade Center buildings) goes like 6,000-7,600 mph (5,200-6,590 nautical mph) which is about 28 to 36 times faster than the Infernus in which the framerate has troubles keeping up to. San Andreas had flyable planes and bad framerate but the planes only went probably 200-250 mph.

6,000 mph??? Hahahahahahah. What have you been smoking? A Boeing 767's top speed is under 600 mph. Even in a straight down dive it could not achive those speeds. Ever hear of the SR71? It can only hit 2,500 mph.

[CryptReaperDorian]

 

The reason it was not included in GTA IV is because they don't want to be seen as a 9/11 Simulator.

Source? I think they pulled the plug on planes, because

the frame rate wouldn't keep up with a fast moving plane

very well.

I think it's the framerate too. I mean the Boeing 767 (GTA SA's AT-400 and the airliners that crashed into the World Trade Center buildings) goes like 6,000-7,600 mph (5,200-6,590 nautical mph) which is about 28 to 36 times faster than the Infernus in which the framerate has troubles keeping up to. San Andreas had flyable planes and bad framerate but the planes only went probably 200-250 mph.

6,000 mph??? Hahahahahahah. What have you been smoking? A Boeing 767's top speed is under 600 mph. Even in a straight down dive it could not achive those speeds. Ever hear of the SR71? It can only hit 2,500 mph.

My bad, I just remembered that the X-43 goes like 9.8 mach which is over 7,000 mph (in which they are working on a variant of it X-43D which they are planning to get at 15 mach). The Boeing 767 doesn't even reach mach speed. Really, WTF was I smoking? I didn't really look at the Wiki page much, it is the range that it can travel (or something like that) is like 5,200-6,590 nautical miles.

[mr_bungle]

The only reason that they dont have planes is coz of the videos theyd be getting. Supposedly they had an airport somewhere else but had to remove it so they didnt have planes. This would only be a sh*tty airport like the one u get on san andreas. The removed it as the games in new york so people would send vids in saying omg its happened again with wids crashing into a building. However the next gta is set in miami/vice city so expect a larger map than the old vice city so there is room for planes and much more.

I don't think they were cut due to 9/11. And where did you read the next GTA is in Vice City again?

Hes all crap. He doesn't know anything about the next GTA. No-one does..

[numdmind]

 

DLC will probably end up adding alot of things.

But planes will not be one of them. When will you people just accept it?

 

And it's never been because of the freaking terrorist attacks. I wish you people would learn to read a bit more instead of making stupid assumptions.

[TheSamurai Hobo]

DLC will probably end up adding alot of things.

But planes will not be one of them. When will you people just accept it?

Never.

[Magic_Al]

It wasn't because of 9/11. Flying a plane into the tallest building in Los Angeles was a real terror plot discovered after 9/11, but that building and planes are in San Andreas anyway.

 

Vice City had one airport but you couldn't fly any planes from there. The only flyable plane was the Skimmer seaplane (which of course doesn't need more airports). It would be equally useful in Liberty City as in Vice City so that's the only one I could see being added.

[BioVirus]

I didn't even know about that Los Angeles terrorist plot until I just read it in your post.

 

Everyone knows 9/11.

 

Big difference.

[polosistealth]

i'll miss the rustler from san andreas

[CryptReaperDorian]

It wasn't because of 9/11. Flying a plane into the tallest building in Los Angeles was a real terror plot discovered after 9/11, but that building and planes are in San Andreas anyway.

 

Vice City had one airport but you couldn't fly any planes from there. The only flyable plane was the Skimmer seaplane (which of course doesn't need more airports). It would be equally useful in Liberty City as in Vice City so that's the only one I could see being added.

And to the people who think it was of terrorist attacks, isn't shooting a mass number of innocent pedestrians and law enforcers terrorism with a weapons? Isn't running over people and crashing into other vehicles to kill the driver and passengers terrorism? Isn't going on suicide bombings terrorism? It's not because of terrorism people, it's most likely because of the city layout, framerate, vehicle physics, or something else that would not work out the greatest. It would of been nice to have a Skimmer (land on water by a dock) and a Dodo (if you really think you can land in the city without trashing it or landing on the beach and thus the Skimmer doesn't move on land) because they are slow and a helicopter can go just about as fast probably.