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dont read this if you get bored easily..

(note that i also would like to discuss about the human mind or exactly what it is in this topic)

 

i´ve have (for some reason) been thinking about the future and what will there be in say 70 years when im old.

but one thing has been in my mind for a long time. the ability to live longer.. maybe forever.

i think it will be possible in the near future.. for the rich. the human body gets old. mechanics dont.

well they do but you can replace them easier. so what if most of your body would be mechanics. you would live longer. "but then you wouldnt be completely your self if you would replace sh*t with mechanics and electronics"

yes i would. you know how some people say that they recognise new smells after they´ve got a new kidney or so.. because they have a part of another human in them and now they would smell that humans smells.

no they dont. they just think they do. its a placebo. kidneys or other organs dont store memories of smells.

we all know that. and if you would get a new brain well you wouldnt. see as i said in the beginning i also

like to share my thoughts of the human mind. i think its the brain. more specific: the memory. see if you

would get a new brain you really wouldnt. the new brain would get a new body. since the brain is the person.

no matter what transplants you get you will still stay the same person. as long as you wont replace your brain=your self. and now for the robotics. what if every part of your body would be mechanic or electronic

exept your brain. the brain would need blood. now you might think that you need a heart. no you wouldnt.

everything else can be replaced with something better than organic exept the brain. you could have an

artificial heart (some people have them already) to pump the bood. and some weird gadget to collect oxygen from the air and so on.. since the most amount of deaths are caused by something else than a brain injury..

i think you would live longer. when old people die these days.. they die in stuff like heart attack or a cancer.

soi think that if you would be a cyborg (the official name for being part machine and part human) you would be able to live as long as something doesnt happend to your brain.

 

then i had an idea. what if the human mind is the memory. what we go thrue in life change us.

those events make us who we are. if someone experiences something traumatic.. they´ll go crazy.

because that event changed them. now they are a different person than what they were before the trauma.

so therefore we change all the time. you are not the same person as you were when you started reading this

topic. but the change is so little that no one would notice. if you go thrue a traumatic event you become a way

different person. different enough to see the difference. get it?

then i thought about people with split personality. maybe the have just two "folders" where the memories go.

normal person would just have one. because those "folders" would have different memories they would be two different persons. (forgetting where i was supposed to go with this)...

 

i remember in one conan o brien show there was the worlds first cyborg. Doctor something..

and he said that in the future we would have chips in our brains that we could use to send thoughts wirelessly

to other brains with the same kind of chip. that would be called telepathy. cool huh? we will have telepethy in the future. so i thought that would it be possible to "fish" other things from the brain than just thoughts?

like memories..

 

scenario: two people. both have a chip in theyre brain that would make it possible for a doctor of

soeme sort to fish out theyre memories, and switch theyre place. then they would be the same people in eatch

others bodies. but you know there is artificial memory too. what if you would be all robotics exept your brain

and then you would "transplant" your memories (=you) to an artificial memory. then you would be you but in a completely mechanic body. now you could (in theory) live forever.

 

but wouldnt then every piece of artificial memory be a "living thing"? i dont know..

but a memory storage (memory card etc..) wouldnt live. it wouldnt feel anything because it cant see hear taste etc.. just blank. but if you would make a robot that would have eyes ears and other sences.

and make up some memories for the robot. wouldnt it then be a living thing?

 

(damn this is long)

 

so if a memory isnt alive would you be? if you would be in the completely machine body.

the brain isnt just a memory. it is also like computer. so you would need the rest of the brain to live.

but the thing is.. computers have commands and stuff. if this happends then do this. and if this then that.

that is just very complicated programming. not artificial intelligence.

 

so would you then live or would have your memories been tranferd into a robot witch now

reacts to the world besed on your memories? exactly like you would. no one could answer that

question since to every one else the robot would look and act exectly like you and you wouldnt be able

to answer because you wouldnt be in the robot or in your body.. you would be dead. you wouldnt exist aymore. (i think that this kind of stuff is easier to understand for an atheist like me because i dont believe in

any of that "soul" sh*t)

 

so now that you have waisted a proportion of your life reading this i would really really want to hear

your thoughts about all of this and also say if i should be officially the best philosophist of the year biggrin.gif

 

P.S. im 16. if i can understand or think to understand this. then the most of the people that would read this can understand it too.

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Tony Mozzarelli 80

If the brain is what defines a person, then why do we all refer to it as 'my brain' instead of 'me' ? perhaps the brain, is also just a part of the machine, and it is the consciousness therein which is actually you. Maybe that's what a soul is.

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DaSanAnThug
If the brain is what defines a person, then why do we all refer to it as 'my brain' instead of 'me' ? perhaps the brain, is also just a part of the machine, and it is the consciousness therein which is actually you. Maybe that's what a soul is.

no im prettty sure that the brain is the person and that there is no soul.

but that is what i belive in and you belive in a different thing.

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Tony Mozzarelli 80
If the brain is what defines a person, then why do we all refer to it as 'my brain' instead of 'me' ? perhaps the brain, is also just a part of the machine, and it is the consciousness therein which is actually you. Maybe that's what a soul is.

no im prettty sure that the brain is the person and that there is no soul.

but that is what i belive in and you belive in a different thing.

Well i'm not saying i believe that necessarily. But i must confess i wish i had the benefit of certainty that you seem to possess

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DaSanAnThug

opinnions from other people..?

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beavis

I wonder what you would experience if someone drove a long stileto knife through your brain. Do you experience pain first or do you slowly black out?

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Struff Bunstridge

Debates & Discussion, dude. If you want serious answers, you're more likely to get them there.

 

There's an awful lot to address there, my friend. Cybernetics, robotics, neurology, psychology, ethics... The list goes on. My main interest here was this:

 

 

but wouldnt then every piece of artificial memory be a "living thing"? i dont know..

but a memory storage (memory card etc..) wouldnt live. it wouldnt feel anything because it cant see hear taste etc.. just blank. but if you would make a robot that would have eyes ears and other sences.

and make up some memories for the robot. wouldnt it then be a living thing?

 

 

This depends on your definition of alive. If you could somehow replicate human senses, and implan memories, that'd be a step towards creating life, but what about the ability to form new memories? Isn't that a staple part of being alive? A memory card can't form new files, it can only store what it's told to store.

 

I'm a little hazy on this, but (from eight years ago, in Biology) I vaguely remember MRS GREN:

 

Movement

Respiration

Sensitivity

Growth

Reproduction

Excretion

Nutrition

 

As I remember it, for something to be alive, it has to satisfy all of the above functions: movement, breathing, feeling/nerve response, growth, reproduction, sh*tting, and eating. Basically.

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DaSanAnThug

 

This depends on your definition of alive. If you could somehow replicate human senses, and implan memories, that'd be a step towards creating life, but what about the ability to form new memories? Isn't that a staple part of being alive? A memory card can't form new files, it can only store what it's told to store.

 

 

As I remember it, for something to be alive, it has to satisfy all of the above functions: movement, breathing, feeling/nerve response, growth, reproduction, sh*tting, and eating. Basically.

well i just forgot to mention that. of course it would save its experiences into its memories.

 

and that mrs gren is bullsh*t.

just because evolution has produced things like breathing

for the creatures on this planet does not mean that every single

living creature on light years away needs to breath. that is just one way

of getting your "food" or what ever. our bodies and organs have been

"made" to use oxygen for energy. that doesnt mean that everything else needs

oxygen.

 

most likely not everything breathes.

but that doesnt mean that it wouldnt be alive.

 

and pretty much all of those other "requirements" only describe

the living beings on this planet.

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Struff Bunstridge

Well, if you're throwing extraterrestrials into the mix as well, we're leaving the realms of scientific debate and pretty much wandering off into the unknown. Life as we know it on this planet is dictated by the seven rules above. It doesn't mean it's bullsh*t, it just means it accounts for every living being humankind has ever firmly recorded an encounter with. Sure, there could be aliens that breathe argon through their arseholes and reproduce by blinking, but why even debate that? We've no way of knowing, so we'll just end up going round in circles.

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Well, if you're throwing extraterrestrials into the mix as well, we're leaving the realms of scientific debate and pretty much wandering off into the unknown. Life as we know it on this planet is dictated by the seven rules above. It doesn't mean it's bullsh*t, it just means it accounts for every living being humankind has ever firmly recorded an encounter with. Sure, there could be aliens that breathe argon through their arseholes and reproduce by blinking, but why even debate that? We've no way of knowing, so we'll just end up going round in circles.

Bah, sounds like you're just full of hot argon to me.

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Seachmall

 

most likely not everything breathes.

but that doesnt mean that it wouldnt be alive.

By our definition, yes it would. We can only make definitions based on what we know, we don't know if there are any 'living' organisms out there that are made of lego so we don't include that in our definition. MRS GREN is an accurate definition based on our current knowledge.

 

Our definition living and all the definitions that make up the definition of living, i.e. MRS GREN, are limited to organisms made up of tissue, they can't be metal so by todays standards, no. You cannot call a robot living, a cyborg... I don't know, maybe

 

Also, MRS GREN has past away. The Characteristics of life are from what I learned (last year so I'm assuming they aren't already outdate tounge2.gif ),

 

Organisation

Nutrition

Excretion

Response

Reproduction

 

EDIT -

I've been googling to see how many of characteristics of life there are and apparently everyone has an opinion on it, it ranges from 5 to 8 so if we continue on this discussion we'll need to agree on how many there are and what they are.

 

Organisation - The way an organism is structured (Cell -> Tissue -> Organ -> Organism -> Population).

Nurition - The way an organism obtains its food.

Excretion - The removal of the waste of metabolic reations from the organism (this doesn't include sh*tting, thats egestion)

Response - The way an organism reacts to changes in its enviroment (Homeostatisis)

Reproduction - The production of an organism from one or more organisms (I can't remember, thats a guess suicidal.gif)

 

So post yours and we'll decide, or continue on the discussion regardless...

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What I wish the most is that we could live like plants,that is we could make up food from the sunlight,God ,this is the Heaven biggrin.gif

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DaSanAnThug

life doesnt need reproduction to exist.

a species does. if the animals (or what ever thay are) from a specific

species wont be able to reproduce the the species will die on extinction.

but if they wouldnt be able to reproduce then there would have not even been those animals.

 

but just because an animal or any other life form hasnt been made by reproducing

doesnt mean that its not alive.

 

and just because we dont know yet how to make living things other than reproducing

doesnt mean that it cant be done.

 

in the past people thought that the only way to have a man on the moon

was to blast him there with a cannon. just because we didnt know how to get to the moon then

didnt mean that it could never be done.

 

EDIT: i was thinking that we could also be reacting t this world just like a robot that would react to the

world based on its memories.

if this then that. if i see my friend, i will go talk to him because i have info about him on my memory that say

that he is nice. then i would see somone i didnt like and i would not go talk to him because the info in my memory says that he is an a hole...

 

NO now i get it..

when we have reactions (someone scares you and you will scream)

we do not control them. they hppend by them selves. we do not decide to scream it just happends.

so if the robot would just act on "if this then that" bases it would not think by it self.

they would just be artificial reflexes. so if theyd put your memories into a robot body

it would not be you living in the body. but then again something as dumb as a cockroach

doesnt think by it self. it just goes from reflex to a reflex.

 

dammed i have no idea where im going with this anymore.. biggrin.gif

 

EDIT: so a simple thing would determine if something would be alive or not.

does it have the capability to make a decision. not by if this then that but by judging and valueing things.

these days if a robot would be put through a maze and it would be given an image of a map and

it would decide what way to go to get to the finish.

 

it wouldnt really decide. it would just calculate what route would be most succesfull

and if one route is more succesfull than others it will choose that one. if thi sthen that.

 

but will we ever be able to make something artificial that would be able to really decide things?

and remember.. just because we have no clue on how it could be done does not mean that we

cant do it in the future.

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Seachmall

 

life doesnt need reproduction to exist.

a species does. if the animals (or what ever thay are) from a specific

species wont be able to reproduce the the species will die on extinction.

but if they wouldnt be able to reproduce then there would have not even been those animals.

Well a species is just a group of organisms that share characteristics so species must follow the same definition of life/living.

but just because an animal or any other life form hasnt been made by reproducing

doesnt mean that its not alive.

By our definitions that is exactly what it means.
and just because we dont know yet how to make living things other than reproducing

doesnt mean that it cant be done.

True but to make something you need ingredients. The ingredients for an organism are cells. If those cells divide it is reproducing. Metal can't divide, it can't reproduce.
in the past people thought that the only way to have a man on the moon

was to blast him there with a cannon. just because we didnt know how to get to the moon then

didnt mean that it could never be done.

True but there is a difference in the two.
EDIT: i was thinking that we could also be reacting t this world just like a robot that would react to the

world based on its memories.

if this then that. if i see my friend, i will go talk to him because i have info about him on my memory that say

that he is nice. then i would see somone i didnt like and i would not go talk to him because the info in my memory says that he is an a hole...

 

NO now i get it..

when we have reactions (someone scares you and you will scream)

we do not control them. they hppend by them selves. we do not decide to scream it just happends.

so if the robot would just act on "if this then that" bases it would not think by it self.

they would just be artificial reflexes. so if theyd put your memories into a robot body

it would not be you living in the body. but then again something as dumb as a cockroach

doesnt think by it self. it just goes from reflex to a reflex.

Everything we do is based on if...else... conditions, we just do it without recognising it.
EDIT: so a simple thing would determine if something would be alive or not.

does it have the capability to make a decision. not by if this then that but by judging and valueing things.

these days if a robot would be put through a maze and it would be given an image of a map and

it would decide what way to go to get to the finish.

Other then guessing that is the only way to get through a maze, and robots can 'guess' too.
but will we ever be able to make something artificial that would be able to really decide things?

and remember.. just because we have no clue on how it could be done does not mean that we

cant do it in the future.

Robots think the way we do they just do it to a finite limit. We decided based on past experiences, robots can do this too. Its called AI but there memory is finite and ours, arguably, isn't.

 

Example, getting threw a maze.

 

Human,

If I go route A1 it'll come to a dead end so I better not go that way.

If I go route A2 it'll open two other routes, B1 and B2.

If I go route B1 it'll open another two routes, C1 and C2.

If I go route C1 it'll come to a dead end so I better not go that way.

If I go route C2 it'll come to a dead end so I better not go that way.

If I go route B2 it'll open another two routes, C3 and C4.

If I go route C3 I'll exit the maze.

 

Robot,

 

if($A1_exit == NULL){exit();}else if($A2_exit == NULL){$B1 = TRUE;$B2 = TRUE;if($B1_exit == NULL){ exit();}else{ $C1 == TRUE; $C2 == TRUE;  if($C1_exit == NULL){ 	exit(); }else{...}  if($C2_exit == NULL){ 	exit(); }else{...}  exit();}if($B2_exit == NULL){ exit();}else{ $C3 = TRUE; $C4 = TRUE;  if($C3_exit == NULL){ 	exit(); }else{ 	win();	//	THIS IS WHERE YOU END UP } if($C4_exit == NULL){ 	exit(); }else{...} exit{}}lose();}

 

 

Notice all the if..., we need to see what the results will be.

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Machida

We're always intriqued by a more "futuristic" sounding future. What we're actually seeing is technology slowing down. It has to to suit our lifestyles and to avoid creating a technological gulf. I suggest the future is going to be much the same as the present, both in ourselves as humans and the enviroment around us. We'll probably just be wearing a different pair of jeans.

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We're always intriqued by a more "futuristic" sounding future. What we're actually seeing is technology slowing down. It has to to suit our lifestyles and to avoid creating a technological gulf. I suggest the future is going to be much the same as the present, both in ourselves as humans and the enviroment around us. We'll probably just be wearing a different pair of jeans.

Apparently we have the technology for hover cars. Its expensive and bulky but so were computers 20-30 years ago. We have the technology to have TVs in our clothes (on the sleeves for example) but I'm not why that hasn't taken off, no support? We have the technology to create artifical eyes and have created artifical eyes, they're currently being tested on a blind women in the states. We have unmanned fighter planes, guns with the ability to identify humans, mines with the ability to identify and detonate on tanks etc.

 

Technology is flying with no signs of slowing down.

 

This isn't the car I was thinking of but its cool none the less

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DaSanAnThug

the future is here.

well.. it has always been..

we´ve just had to wait awhile.

 

EDIT: i think that i´ve got the human mind thing out of my ..mind by now.

and since this topics name is "future" i think that we should post sh*t

about future inventions or in another words inventions on development.

what will the future be like?

 

i think that in the future we will have the ability to purchase "super powers"

imagine if you would have artificial eyes that could change the view between

normal vision, zooming, night vision, infra red vision, and things like that.

 

 

and ive had an idea..

wings! not anything that would be attached to your body

but more like a backpack.

then you would pull out two err... things that would have handles in the end and

you would grab those handlels with your hands (surprise surprise)

and then.. from those things that youve just pulled out of your special

backpack.. there would come out these long metal things and when all of them are out they would

form wings. they would come out in the same as a.. i dont know the english word for it

but it look like this

user posted image

and i know that this sounds a bit weird so i drew this picture of the "design"

user posted image

the wings would be bigger but i didnt have the patience to draw more crappy ms paint stuff.

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Machida
We're always intriqued by a more "futuristic" sounding future. What we're actually seeing is technology slowing down. It has to to suit our lifestyles and to avoid creating a technological gulf. I suggest the future is going to be much the same as the present, both in ourselves as humans and the enviroment around us. We'll probably just be wearing a different pair of jeans.

Apparently we have the technology for hover cars. Its expensive and bulky but so were computers 20-30 years ago. We have the technology to have TVs in our clothes (on the sleeves for example) but I'm not why that hasn't taken off, no support?

Lack of support? No, it's actually because we have no need for these things in our current lifestyles. The hovercar is a good example, it serves no purpose, it's un-practical and completely usless to us. A good example of how technology has to, and is slowing down to suit our lifestyles.

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Lack of support? No, it's actually because we have no need for these things in our current lifestyles.

You're right, like who needs a T.V. on their mobile, or a video recorder on their mobile? That'll never catch on. People believed that there was no use for a computer in the house, it was solely a business invention.

 

The hovercar has more uses then a car does today, its not just getting around town. It can be used as a town car but it can go off road and on snow, it can even go over swamp land. Then you have the recreational uses for it, imagine a race in a hover car going 50mph!

 

There are tons of 'future' techonologies being used today, off the top of my head;

  • Refigerator that alerts you when you are low on a specific product and can even order it.
  • Glasses with Internet, Sat Nav and even the T.V. on them.
  • Robot Soldiers
  • Guns that shoot around corners
  • Offline software being put online (graphics editors for example, take a $1000 product and place it online for a cheap monthly fee)
  • Laser Keyboards
  • Guns with Thumb-print ID.
  • Fixed Wing to rotary wing (they can vertically lift off and go at the speed of planes)
and the list goes on, technology will never slow. Perhaps in a recession but that won't stop it for long as technology is often seen as the way to get out.

 

I can't even imagine a world where people stop inventing stuff, it'd be mad.

 

EDIT -

Regarding the wings, perhaps metal might be a bit heavy, plus you're arms would get sore and then you have the whole gravity thing holding you back. I can't see personal flight getting that 'personal' too soon, I imagine we'll take the hover concept, cheapen it, make it more powerful (Moore's law) while its also getting smaller.

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DaSanAnThug

i agree with seachmall.

 

i dont think its going to slow down at all.

and even though there would be these new inventions

they wouldnt change our world into the "futuristic silvery space stuff" world.

 

some

interesting

nano

tech

sh*t

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Lack of support? No, it's actually because we have no need for these things in our current lifestyles.

You're right, like who needs a T.V. on their mobile, or a video recorder on their mobile? That'll never catch on. People believed that there was no use for a computer in the house, it was solely a business invention.

 

The hovercar has more uses then a car does today, its not just getting around town. It can be used as a town car but it can go off road and on snow, it can even go over swamp land. Then you have the recreational uses for it, imagine a race in a hover car going 50mph!

 

There are tons of 'future' techonologies being used today, off the top of my head;

•Robot Soldiers

•Guns that shoot around corners

 

Ex Royal Marine talking here, you've been watching too much MGS4.

 

The point is technology has to and is slowing down because of our needs. Very few of us go "over swamp land" to get to work in the morning. Technology may be able to design a hovercar that can do this, but there is no way it will fit into our daily lives. Therefore it's unjustifiable to make such a thing. This forces the slow down of technoogy.

 

You could for instance, design a machine that buids fences. This would however make the people who build fences redundant. As the population grows more jobs are needed, the practical uses that technology offers in our daily lives is limited to the way we live.

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Seachmall

 

•Robot Soldiers

•Guns that shoot around corners

 

Ex Royal Marine talking here, you've been watching too much MGS4.

Unmanned Fighter Plane

Gun shoots around corner

Robot Soldier

The point is technology has to and is slowing down because of our needs.
Manufacturers and employers just want to get the job done as cheaply as possible and unless a law passes that you cannot have a completly robotic work force technology will not slow. Even if that does happen techonology for reactreational uses won't slow.
Very few of us go "over swamp land" to get to work in the morning.Technology may be able to design a hovercar that can do this, but there is no way it will fit into our daily lives. Therefore it's unjustifiable to make such a thing. This forces the slow down of technoogy.
You use roads right? Roads are dangerous, they have pot-holes, black ice, water etc. on them. None of that affects this machine. Marsh land was an example, you could use it as a dune buggy, go over snow, long grass etc. that your more standard machines couldn't all handle, you'd need an array of them to do what this machine can do. Its small at the moment because its for personal use, take the same concept and put it in commercial vehicles
You could for instance, design a machine that buids fences. This would however make the people who build fences redundant. As the population grows more jobs are needed, the practical uses that technology offers in our daily lives is limited to the way we live.
As I've said before, employers don't care. If its efficient they want it. As populations grows more people buy these products. Edited by Seachmall

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wow a page 2!

my very first officially popular topic.

 

P.S. watch the videos in my last post.

 

oh and the wings.. metal was just the first thing that came to my mind.

of course they can be something else that is light and bendable.

 

bendable.. witch reminds me.

 

for example: a news paper. you would have one of those kind of sheet screens and you would be able to

download any newspaper on it. imagine the amount of trees that wouldnt be cut to make paper.

 

fabrig screen

 

 

 

kiss your computer an early goodbye.

 

 

 

HEZUZ f*ckING CHRITS IN THE SKY

IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER!!!!!

 

 

 

 

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The point is technology has to and is slowing down because of our needs.
Manufacturers and employers just want to get the job done as cheaply as possible and unless a law passes that you cannot have a completly robotic work force technology will not slow. Even if that does happen techonology for reactreational uses won't slow.
Very few of us go "over swamp land" to get to work in the morning.Technology may be able to design a hovercar that can do this, but there is no way it will fit into our daily lives. Therefore it's unjustifiable to make such a thing. This forces the slow down of technoogy.
You use roads right? Roads are dangerous, they have pot-holes, black ice, water etc. on them. None of that affects this machine. Marsh land was an example, you could use it as a dune buggy, go over snow, long grass etc. that your more standard machines couldn't all handle, you'd need an array of them to do what this machine can do. Its small at the moment because its for personal use, take the same concept and put it in commercial vehicles
You could for instance, design a machine that buids fences. This would however make the people who build fences redundant. As the population grows more jobs are needed, the practical uses that technology offers in our daily lives is limited to the way we live.
As I've said before, employers don't care. If its efficient they want it. As populations grows more people buy these products.

Society rests on it's working population. Not individual employers. Society benifits when everyone works, not when jobs are done quicker/cheaper or better by technology.

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Society rests on it's working population. Not individual employers.

Thats not going to stop the individual employers buying cheaper and more effecient technology. There was a time when cars were constructed by men and women, there was a time when labourers lugged materials around, there was a time when nothing was done by technology but now adays technology does alot of stuff and aslong as employers are willing to purchase it people will be willing to build it.

Society benifits when everyone works, not when jobs are done quicker/cheaper or better by technology.
What society benefits from has nothing to do with the profits businesses want. We constantly hear about people being laid off because companies have found more efficient ways be it by using technology or moving the business to a different country with a cheaper work force.

 

Even if a law is passed that you cannot have a 60+% robotic/technological workforce technology will still be developed for recreational and military use. I can't think of a single industry that develops technolgy faster then the military and I can't see why they'd stop.

 

Also, the point about the T.V. in clothing was more about the actual technology, a flexible T.V. screen. There are numerous uses for this with advertising being the first thing I can think of, no longer are you limited to flat areas to promote goods.

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Well it is a known fact the the human brain is basicaly in infancy in terms of use. We only use like what 20%-25% of our barin power? That leaves 75%-80% of untapped power so maybe somewhere in our brain is a thing that makes us live longer. Not to mention humans living way longer is a certainty. Mainly because as time passes more and more things affect how we live and the humna life rate has gone up over the years.

 

Also in the next 50-100 years or so when space travle may be possible to a certain extent time travels differntly in most places in space andon planets so maybe on Earth somebody would have lived 25 years in Earth time but sayb we colononized a planet in another solar systme and a year there is 50 days then we'd be like 7 years older then a human on Earth every time a Earth yer passed so we'd technicly be living much longer then a Earth person but that would also affect how we live so altogether it would be possible for us to outlive a Earth human regardless.

 

The future opens up numerous windows for us both good and bad but its always fun to wonder about the future.

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Well it is a known fact the the human brain is basicaly in infancy in terms of use. We only use like what 20%-25% of our barin power? That leaves 75%-80% of untapped power so maybe somewhere in our brain is a thing that makes us live longer. Not to mention humans living way longer is a certainty. Mainly because as time passes more and more things affect how we live and the humna life rate has gone up over the years.

 

We use 10-12% of our brain at a time, we use 100% of our brain throughout the day. Most of it while sleeping strangely enough. We know plenty more about the brain then is commonly realised.

 

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=people...ercent-of-brain

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Well it is a known fact the the human brain is basicaly in infancy in terms of use. We only use like what 20%-25% of our barin power? That leaves 75%-80% of untapped power so maybe somewhere in our brain is a thing that makes us live longer. Not to mention humans living way longer is a certainty. Mainly because as time passes more and more things affect how we live and the humna life rate has gone up over the years.

 

We use 10-12% of our brain at a time, we use 100% of our brain throughout the day. Most of it while sleeping strangely enough. We know plenty more about the brain then is commonly realised.

 

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=people...ercent-of-brain

But it's entirely possible o use more then that 10%-12% of our brain at any givne time. It is possible to be able to use 100% of our brain power all day. It hasn't happened but it's possible

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Well it is a known fact the the human brain is basicaly in infancy in terms of use. We only use like what 20%-25% of our barin power? That leaves 75%-80% of untapped power so maybe somewhere in our brain is a thing that makes us live longer. Not to mention humans living way longer is a certainty. Mainly because as time passes more and more things affect how we live and the humna life rate has gone up over the years.

 

We use 10-12% of our brain at a time, we use 100% of our brain throughout the day. Most of it while sleeping strangely enough. We know plenty more about the brain then is commonly realised.

 

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=people...ercent-of-brain

But it's entirely possible o use more then that 10%-12% of our brain at any givne time. It is possible to be able to use 100% of our brain power all day. It hasn't happened but it's possible

Its possible. Your brain is divide up into sectors, each sector handles a specific function such as recieving pain/emotion, releasing various chemicals, using logic and memory etc. If you use 100% of your brain at a time it would be similar to being in a firefight with 2 broken legs, holding your dying mother, eating a Big Mac and doing a maths test.

 

Your brains sectors are built (have evolved) specifically for their function, using all of it would probably shut down your system, you wouldn't have enough energy to support it.

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Well it is a known fact the the human brain is basicaly in infancy in terms of use. We only use like what 20%-25% of our barin power? That leaves 75%-80% of untapped power so maybe somewhere in our brain is a thing that makes us live longer. Not to mention humans living way longer is a certainty. Mainly because as time passes more and more things affect how we live and the humna life rate has gone up over the years.

 

We use 10-12% of our brain at a time, we use 100% of our brain throughout the day. Most of it while sleeping strangely enough. We know plenty more about the brain then is commonly realised.

 

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=people...ercent-of-brain

But it's entirely possible o use more then that 10%-12% of our brain at any givne time. It is possible to be able to use 100% of our brain power all day. It hasn't happened but it's possible

Its possible. Your brain is divide up into sectors, each sector handles a specific function such as recieving pain/emotion, releasing various chemicals, using logic and memory etc. If you use 100% of your brain at a time it would be similar to being in a firefight with 2 broken legs, holding your dying mother, eating a Big Mac and doing a maths test.

 

Your brains sectors are built (have evolved) specifically for their function, using all of it would probably shut down your system, you wouldn't have enough energy to support it.

Then maybe it's possible that in the far future or possibly earlier when people look back at us as ancestors and we are like the stone age to them maybe humans will have become emotionless and painless brick walls lol. Maybe not to that extent but I don't know if this is true or not but years ago it was said because of untapped power in the brain it was possible for humnas to learn how to fly and things like that.

 

In all actuality though no body knows what is really possible. Scientist make theories about things in our univeres that at this current time nobody can possibly know somaybe all the theories scientist have about our brain is not correct.

 

 

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