jjcoolj91 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 My computer is a little oboslete and can only support AGP Video Cards so I was wondering what is the best one around that would support GTA IV and Mercs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H4milton Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Please refer the Minimum System Requirments topic. And one thing and thats fo sure, GTA IV will require a PCI-E Video Card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak2121 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Please refer the Minimum System Requirments topic.And one thing and thats fo sure, GTA IV will require a PCI-E Video Card. Not really, the 7800GS is AGP and a PS3 has a 7900 so it should run it at similar settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjcoolj91 Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 Please refer the Minimum System Requirments topic.And one thing and thats fo sure, GTA IV will require a PCI-E Video Card. Not really, the 7800GS is AGP and a PS3 has a 7900 so it should run it at similar settings. So I should be good on that and thanks for helping me out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak2121 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Please refer the Minimum System Requirments topic.And one thing and thats fo sure, GTA IV will require a PCI-E Video Card. Not really, the 7800GS is AGP and a PS3 has a 7900 so it should run it at similar settings. So I should be good on that and thanks for helping me out Well it's a maybe, if R* does a good job with porting and optimizing you shouldn't have a problem running it at mid settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC2 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Please refer the Minimum System Requirments topic.And one thing and thats fo sure, GTA IV will require a PCI-E Video Card. I have AGP card (X1600PRO 512 MB) and I play CoD4 on high settings.I even play Crysis on pretty good settings.So I don't think that GTA IV will work only on PCI-E cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exkabewbikadid Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I believe the Radeon X1950 Pro has an AGP version. It's similar to what's in the Xbox 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I think the last AGP card was the Radeon 3850 which is a pretty decent card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan87 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I think the last AGP card was the Radeon 3850 which is a pretty decent card. And the HD 2600 too. @OP: Please be aware that if you have a slow CPU it will bottleneck your graphics card. Which means that the graphics card won't be able to use its full potential. Better save up for a new PC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pacproducer2 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I dont care of that, because soon I m buying 9600GT 512 mb, so I dont need to wory. But i thing something like 7900 should run the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnorg Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I dont care of that, because soon I m buying 9600GT 512 mb, so I dont need to wory. But i thing something like 7900 should run the game. Why go for the 9600? I hear the 8800 is better. I'm gonna get an HD4750 once I get my new PC, but I'll be able to run most games on the 8600 I get with PC. Crysis doesn't interest my, and I can't tell the difference betweed 8xAA and 16xAA. It'll beat the sh*t out my X1600 that I'm stuck with now, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topeira Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 ן second the idea to save for a complete update. if your mobo supports only AGP cards that it has a slo CPU on it, and if u have a slow CPU than GTA4 will probably not run that well, and more importantly, neither will other future games. may saving up 500$ and buying a new computer (new mobo, new cpu, new ram, new gpu) will be more worth while. SC2 says he runs COD4 on high (probably low rez though) but i think that COD4 doesnt require dual cores, or at least doesnt benefit that much from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I dont care of that, because soon I m buying 9600GT 512 mb, so I dont need to wory. But i thing something like 7900 should run the game. You should go for a HD4850 or if you want the high end version a HD4870 ! They're are the best price/performance card on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[BoBO] Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I believe the Radeon X1950 Pro has an AGP version. It's similar to what's in the Xbox 360. That's the same graphics card I have and it works fine. I run Call of Duty 4 with all settings on Max at 1280x1024. The card works very well and I can play most of the new games , even though my CPU is incredibly outdated (3 ghz P4 yuck) . I'd definitely recommend x1950 Pro for all AGP users Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riahc4 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 We aren't at the point where PCI-E is required. It will get you better preformence yes but not required. Problably DirectX 11 will required PCI-E in its spec (I hope it does and this is my personal opinion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solway Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 these are the highest spec cards you can get with the AGP slot ATI cards http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist....id=56&subid=403 Nvidia cards http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist....id=56&subid=411 and to be honest, even though the PS3 has a "nvidia 7900 spec" graphics chip, the interface bandwidth is not bottlenecked on the ps3, and it also has the cell CPU to balance adding a powerful graphics card into a AGP slot, there is going to be a bottleneck on the bandwidth. not to mention if you CPU is outdated more than the graphics card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUDOU Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 any SM3 AGP card, sure maybe SM2 AGP card (if the game isn't SM3 only, and even if it is, remember bioshock, maybe someone will mod it SM2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomica7 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 oh god i havent heard AGP in so long. and dude for like 100 bucks you can get a pretty decent card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEnd Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 why AGP? PCI are better, and for the guy that wants a 9600 series GPU, get a 8800 series one, i recommand a 8800GT+ or a 8800GTS (i owe a 8800GTS and can tell you itsa great..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt .45 killer Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 go and grab yourself an ati 3850, its the best ever agp card. my buddies got one and he can play crysis on respectiable frame rates for a single core 3 gig agp system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 As much as I sympathise with the TC's situation and yes there are decent AGP cards out there I can't help feel that it just isn't worth it. Any money you spend on an AGP card is dead money, you will not be able to take that card with you when you finally upgrade to a PCI-E capable board. But if it is your only option I would say don't go too crazy and spend too much money on a AGP card. However ideally you should look into the option of upgrading the whole PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 jjcoolj91 what are you entire system specs? CPU,MB,RAM,GPU,HDD,CASE and PSU Also what version of windows! Depending on your system i recommend a HD3650 or 3850 512MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 why AGP? PCI are better, and for the guy that wants a 9600 series GPU, get a 8800 series one, i recommand a 8800GT+ or a 8800GTS (i owe a 8800GTS and can tell you itsa great..) Because he hasn't got a PCIe slot(not PCI two different things), anyway it doesn't matter as his best course of action is to save money for a worthwhile upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjcoolj91 Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 jjcoolj91 what are you entire system specs? CPU,MB,RAM,GPU,HDD,CASE and PSU Also what version of windows! Depending on your system i recommend a HD3650 or 3850 512MB HDD 16 GB, 10 GB CPU 1.16 GHZ 512 MB RAM AMD ATHLON XP 1800 motherboard 64 MB RAM NVIDA GeForce 1600 GPU pretty old school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKlorox Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I concur with everybody saying you'll benefit most from a new PC as nothing on your current rig is likely to fit the minimum requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEnd Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 why AGP? PCI are better, and for the guy that wants a 9600 series GPU, get a 8800 series one, i recommand a 8800GT+ or a 8800GTS (i owe a 8800GTS and can tell you itsa great..) Because he hasn't got a PCIe slot(not PCI two different things), anyway it doesn't matter as his best course of action is to save money for a worthwhile upgrade. i know, i have a PCIe, he better save up money and buy an upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnorg Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 jjcoolj91 what are you entire system specs? CPU,MB,RAM,GPU,HDD,CASE and PSU Also what version of windows! Depending on your system i recommend a HD3650 or 3850 512MB HDD 16 GB, 10 GB CPU 1.16 GHZ 512 MB RAM AMD ATHLON XP 1800 motherboard 64 MB RAM NVIDA GeForce 1600 GPU pretty old school A new PC is what you need. How can you play anything on that? And I though I was screwed with my X1600. Does GTAIII run on that? At all? The one I'm gonna get isn't too powerful, but it's 1,200 dollars or I think, you get an 8600GT, Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 4GBs of RAM. I'm just hoping the HD48** will fit in there. If not, I'll settle for the 8600GT. The difference'll be huge either way. For you, even more so. I bet you could save a few hundred dollars by building it yourself, but it's not worth the hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Taboga Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 (edited) I have got an HD3850 AGP and it´s only 2-3% slower than the PCI-E Version it was tested i several Benchmarks. I can run every Game with full details (even Crysis) on it so far until Today so there will be no Problems with AGP cards like 7800 GTX, 7900 GS, HD2600 XT and HD3850. The fastest will even run GTA 4 with everything Maxxed Out. I know i must Upgrade in some time to PCI-E but as long as i can play everything really smooth with full Details (with Athlon 64 X2 2.6GHz and 2GB RAM) i have no Reason to spend so much money on a New System as i would have to buy everything new. So i would definitively say an HD3850 AGP would be the best choice by far. Edited August 18, 2008 by Ron Taboga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnorg Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I have got an HD3850 AGP and it´s only 2-3% slower than the PCI-E Version it was tested i several Benchmarks. I can run every Game with full details (even Crysis) on it so far until Today so there will be no Problems with AGP cards like 7800 GTX, 7900 GS, HD2600 XT and HD3850. The fastest will even run GTA 4 with everything Maxxed Out. I know i must Upgrade in some time to PCI-E but as long as i can play everything really smooth with full Details (with Athlon 64 X2 2.6GHz and 2GB RAM) i have no Reason to spend so much money on a New System as i would have to buy everything new. So i would definitively say an HD3850 AGP would be the best choice by far. It would be useless for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Taboga Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I have got an HD3850 AGP and it´s only 2-3% slower than the PCI-E Version it was tested i several Benchmarks. I can run every Game with full details (even Crysis) on it so far until Today so there will be no Problems with AGP cards like 7800 GTX, 7900 GS, HD2600 XT and HD3850. The fastest will even run GTA 4 with everything Maxxed Out. I know i must Upgrade in some time to PCI-E but as long as i can play everything really smooth with full Details (with Athlon 64 X2 2.6GHz and 2GB RAM) i have no Reason to spend so much money on a New System as i would have to buy everything new. So i would definitively say an HD3850 AGP would be the best choice by far. It would be useless for him. You´r right i just now see he has got a AMD Athlon 1800+ so it would really make no sense to get a newer AGP card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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