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CarnageRacing00

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Sergi

 

But what you can do in GTA is restricted realism. Nobody is talking about f*cking hooker when they say GTA has never been about realism. They're talking about being able to do mass rampages killing thousands of people and not getting caught, being able to fly jetpacks, being able to kill FBI and Army agents and etc.. All of that stuff may be possible but the chances would be like 0.0001%. Those elements are fun and GTA has always been more 95% fun and 5% realism not 55% realism 45% fun.

I can still kill thousands of people in GTA IV without getting caught. Infact I reckon it's more fun, because now the peds react like human beings, instead of standing in the line of fire like a dumbsh*t.

Oh yes the peds are so much better dozingoff.gif The peds do the exact same thing as in any other game. They run and scream and usually run in the directions where you're shooting. They duck down and hide in very visable places. They get guns out and shoot back if they are gangsters. It seems to me that's what they did in all the other GTAs.

 

The only difference this time around in Euphoria and where they get shot is shows cool animations and that's about it.

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SonOfLiberty

Maybe Euphoria has alot to do with it, but it's still more fun. IMO

 

Anyway like I said before fun can't defined universally. If someone finds the realism fun in GTA IV, so be it.

 

Some people here need to learn to respect others' taste in the way they play a game. The "realism= boring" crowd are the main culprits. I've always prefered more realistic games to games that aren't.

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Sergi
Maybe Euphoria has alot to do ith it, but it's still more fun.

 

Anwyay like I said before fun can't defined universally. If someone finds the realism fun in GTA IV, so be it.

 

Some people here need to learn to respect others' taste in the way they play a game. I've always preffered more realistic games to games that aren't.

Don't get me wrong I have no problem with the realism and in numerous threads about IV you'll never see me bash the game because of realism but more because of the lack of "things" to do. By things I'm talking about things that are right infront of you like past GTAs and not things you have to "imagine" where I see so many people saying use your imagination with IV.

 

R* could have easily added people smugglineg because Niko did smuggle people. Actual good side quest like maybe letting Niko perfomr hitman missions throughout the game on just random peds, being the bodyguard at clubs, escorting people etc. It would have easily added to the replay value. Hell you can't even do series tradmarks such as paramedic or taxi in this game. Roman's taxi missions just don't seem as fun as regular missions to me.

 

I mean let's be honest I'm not knocking 4 for what it added(Euphoria even though it looks mediocre compared to Force Unleashed but it'll be expanded on, and other things that were introduced that will be expanded on such as internet and relationships). But things such as cabertes and tv just seemd like added on wastless features. In ll honesty SR, The Godfater and Scarface added more to the free raom genre then IV and it looks like SR 2 no matter how much GTA fanboys hate it and especially the Godfater II are adding more to the genre then IV.

 

R* took too much out and added very little for it.

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SonOfLiberty

 

Hell you can't even do series tradmarks such as paramedic or taxi in this game. Roman's taxi missions just don't seem as fun as regular missions to me.

IMO they were stale. Fun for the first few times, then they got boring.

 

I think it's strange that people bag Bowling, the Caberet club, Comedy club etc yet are quite content to do the same thing over, and over again that had been around from GTA III to VCS? I never pushed myself to complete them, because they lacked variety in each game. I think it was exactly the same for about 5 years.

 

I'm not aiming this at you, but it's just a general thought.

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Drunk Russian 9

. . . because if we argue about this R* will magically implement on what we want into the sequel . . .

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Sergi
Hell you can't even do series tradmarks such as paramedic or taxi in this game. Roman's taxi missions just don't seem as fun as regular missions to me.

IMO they were stale. Fun for the first few times, then they got boring.

 

I think it's strange that people bag Bowling, the Caberet club, Comedy club etc yet are quite content to do the same thing over, and over again that had been around from GTA III to VCS? I never pushed myself to complete them, because they lacked variety in each game. I think it was exactly the same for about 5 years.

 

I'm not aiming this at you, but it's just a general thought.

The cabertes was horrible and pointless. Katt Wiliams is funny in real life but if I never saw him before the game then I'd never ever want to see him in real life. The same goes for that Ricky Gerivas guy. I've never heard of him until IV and after listening to him in IV I'd never want to even hear him again.

 

Also the difference is you can actually interact with side missions such as taxi and paramedic and they add replay value. You can't interact with the caberet.

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colt .45 killer

while i have to agree with the people who want the aliens gone and the jetpacks sent to hell. Note: I say that because while the younger generation wants gangsters and jetpacks and aliens and lots of cool stuff all wrapped into a game where you STEAL CARS, the reality is the game is called GRAND THEFT AUTO: for those who are a bit slow that means veeehikkular wwaaammmppaaaggeeeee. It is the mature audience who want a more realistic game with some grit and a good story line so the game actually attains immersion, see for you young twits you dont remember the days of sh*tty gfx where a game was dictated by its STORY LINE and PLOT, those are the days many 19+ gamers harken back to, when the game had a story line that could keep you up at night thinking about how you were gonna nail that sonofabitch who killed your wingman (WING COMMANDER BABY!). sadly there do seem to be too many of you whinies for common sence to prevail.

 

So perhaps a compromise could be made: A while ago i heard of a game which has since been put on indefinate hold caled Alliance the silent war, the game streched out over 100 years and included 200 + guns, (Amazing i know, google it) but the BEST and most ingenious part of the game was a realism adjuster, as simple as it sounds, low = low realism high = high realism.

 

What if this idea were intergrated into GTA NEXT perhaps two to three settings, all following the SAME STORY, however on lowest things would follow a simple story line, you could race gokarts (how unrealistic is that) while chasing bad guys who were so bad they made sunday school children look like high profile rapists. if you (for example now!) had to sneek into the military base like you do in SA it would be an easy walk in the park for some alien technology.

 

Now for the juicy opponent to easy/ unrealistic mode, is suicide/realism mode. this version contains the same story line but with more depth and much steeper realism. sneeking into that military base would actually require aquiring a proper outfit and actually SNEAKING and the technology would be experimental technology with absolutly NO mention of aliens.

 

Sadly that would mean just about 1.5 X the work for R* so I have this tingling feeling that somehow the next game meant for us 20+ ers will have a story line aimed at you young twats suicidal.gif .

 

OH @ the return of the "gangstas" HELL NO. Face it "gangstas" are very stupid people, they have greed beyond measure that gets them into petty crime and on top of that they fire their guns sideways while atempting to 'push' the bullets at that 'mutha F&*(ka!'. Get into any real fight with a 'gangsta' and assuming you know how to use a weapon he goes down cussing you like a swine, the chance of the story line of gta happening as it did past island one in SA is absolutly IMPOSSIBLE. the mix of government agencies and petty gangsters never happens, IF you want advanced technology and mysteries and myths your character will have to be at the intelligence level and level in society where he would actually GIVE A sh*t about these such things. if there ever is a gangsta gta again, your character should do things which dumb punks do, not end up working for the government on top secret projects, face it CJ would have had an accidental car crash because he knew too much and was a weak link.

 

As for my personal wish for GTA NEXT heres the bucket list

-destructability of buildings

-non linear story

-continuability in single player even after campaign is done

-more modable veichles - change engines - change size of tires - modify body/ remove roof - add nasties like bulletprofing , caltops, oilslicks, smoke screen

-give the police some intelligence *stolen car with licence plate xyz* then that car will always attract attention if police get close

-Alternativly this would also meen police would keep a record of you and being extremely violent might lead them to not liking you as much (perhaps too realistic?)

-please dont make all your friends little sheep that need their hands to be perma held in order for them to survive, im still friends with people i met a few years ago and i havent taken them bowling ONCE!

- the ability to purchase real estate expanded! (I liked being able to keep cars in SA, however i wanted a car collection, now if i could have bought a warehouse to store cars in I would have!)

- as always, more cars!

- oh and should i be cheeky enough to say CHALLENGING MISSIONS?! (or are my car skills just "1337" as the locals would say)

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zeppelincheetah

i think the ideal thing for rockstar to do is have two parallel gta series. one on the ps3/xbox 360 and their successive consoles and another on the Wii and Wii 2. gta on ps3/360 could stay realistic and continue to get more and more realistic, while not adding any cool innovative features. meanwhile the Wii GTA series would go crazy and would use motion control and tons of unique weapons to utilize the Wii's controls and in general the Wii games would feel a lot more loose, with tons of content not seen in the more realistic version. i know i'd buy games from both series if i could.

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CarnageRacing00

Is this Grand Theft Auto or The Sims with guns? What the fu*k do you people want?? Beg and beg for a more realistic GTA after San Andreas, you finally get one and now it's not good enough? Fu*king spoiled little bastards... I bet your mommy's and/or daddies buy you everything you want, don't they? No wonder you're not satisfied unless you get EVERYTHING you want. Seriously... Sergei, just go back to playing with your Wii, that console seems more on the maturity level that you're on.

 

Grow the fu*k up and get over it, GTA IV is a great game and you're not giving it enough credit based on what it IS, you're only focusing on what it is NOT. Dumbasses... you fu*king annoy me to no end.

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But the thing is as i've said over and over, that 'Realism' is not the problem with GTAIV, realism is all well and good. f*ck Jetpacks, f*ck aliens f*ck go karts. Ok fine, i couldn't give a sh*t about them, but i just want lots to do, that's it. Make it realistic that's fine, in fact i don't think IV is realistic enough.

 

I'm f*cking sick of having my hand held through piss easy games where you don't have to think. I want something a little challenging where people will have to (god forbid) use a little bit of intelligence. But 'realism' is ok, just as long as it's done right.

 

And Michigan Muscle, If this annoys you so much then why create yet another thread which is designed for nothing, other than to attack these people, which you see as so f*cking annoying. You knew full well you were going to get these replies, This topic was just an excuse for you to declare, yet again, that you like IV and you think that those who don't appreciate it are immature children. You're not fooling anybody by dressing it up slightly differently, This is the GTA NEXT forum. So how about you add some ideas for discussing the next game, rather than deliberately trying to re-hash the same old arguments about IV. Since these peoples opinions apparently bother you so much, don't create topics which are designed for the sole purpose of antagonizing them

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Sergi

 

Is this Grand Theft Auto or The Sims with guns? What the fu*k do you people want?? Beg and beg for a more realistic GTA after San Andreas, you finally get one and now it's not good enough? Fu*king spoiled little bastards... I bet your mommy's and/or daddies buy you everything you want, don't they? No wonder you're not satisfied unless you get EVERYTHING you want. Seriously... Sergei, just go back to playing with your Wii, that console seems more on the maturity level that you're on.

 

Grow the fu*k up and get over it, GTA IV is a great game and you're not giving it enough credit based on what it IS, you're only focusing on what it is NOT. Dumbasses... you fu*king annoy me to no end.

I'm guessing some of you guys do not understand advancement. If GTA stayed the same as GTA III and added nothing new like VC and SA then SR, The Godfather, Scrafce and other games most definatley would have and they would have been the true evoltuinaries for the free roam genre.

 

All these what some of you guys call "sims" features advance the genre and the sereis all together not to mention it adds more depth and replay value.

 

GTA IV is not realisitc. It's more realistic for a GTA but it's far from realistic. Just because the graphic style changed doesn't make it any more realistic. Realistic would have empire building because that's what most criminals vie for starting their own empire. Realistic would have car and weapon modding. Realsitc would have cars having depth and when you stand in the trunk of a truck you don't unrealistcly fall off when it starts driving. I could go on and on about how unrealistic IV is but that would be long.

 

Point blank IV is no revoltionary game nor a evolutionary game because it hardly added any thing that other studios will want to take from IV and add to their games like studios did with GTA III- SA. IV is just a great game nothing more and nothing less. But while it's a great game it's definatley not a staple game in the GTA universe.

 

And to colt .45 killer shut the f*ck up because your gangsta remark was just as dumb and uneducated as all the other dumb asses who talk nonsense about the whole "gangsta" theme.

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Flesh-n-Bone

Sergi, mate, you know what your talking about, I agree with almost every sentence of yours.

 

And colt 45 killers remarks about 'gangstas'. LOL hilarious!

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Coolyfett
Please,

-No jetpacks

-No aliens

-No go-kart chases through the streets of a ghetto

-No "San Andreas 2010"

 

 

 

 

Jetpacks and Aliens??? Thats funny!

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Coolyfett
while i have to agree with the people who want the aliens gone and the jetpacks sent to hell. Note: I say that because while the younger generation wants gangsters and jetpacks and aliens and lots of cool stuff all wrapped into a game where you STEAL CARS, the reality is the game is called GRAND THEFT AUTO: for those who are a bit slow that means veeehikkular wwaaammmppaaaggeeeee. It is the mature audience who want a more realistic game with some grit and a good story line so the game actually attains immersion, see for you young twits you dont remember the days of sh*tty gfx where a game was dictated by its STORY LINE and PLOT, those are the days many 19+ gamers harken back to, when the game had a story line that could keep you up at night thinking about how you were gonna nail that sonofabitch who killed your wingman (WING COMMANDER BABY!). sadly there do seem to be too many of you whinies for common sence to prevail.

 

 

Preach it!

 

Remember BAD DUDES?

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BoomWorthy

Where the hell where the aliens...?

 

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colt .45 killer

srry I dont remeber bad dudes, my gaming started with a 386 that I had, even then i only had a few games for it, at that time i was more entertained by a sandbox.

 

the aliens were never 'seen' persey in gta sa but you had to go steal some of their green goo, and invade a secret military base where they were reverse engineering alien tech. again you never saw them you just stole some stuff that came around because of the aliens.

 

 

Also, I lol at those who dont like my comments of gangsters, blinded by your own stupid pride are we? so cool to wear your pants down so everyone can see you sh*t yourself when you get scared is it? Hahahaha...... (kiddies, endless entertainment they are; although somehow they feel empowered by the internet)

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Also, I lol at those who dont like my comments of gangsters, blinded by your own stupid pride are we? so cool to wear your pants down so everyone can see you sh*t yourself when you get scared is it? Hahahaha...... (kiddies, endless entertainment they are; although somehow they feel empowered by the internet)

No, the remarks didn't make sense, that's the point. Not everyone who likes the hood-life style are wannabes, you know?

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Gabriel Constantin

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it colt .45 killer? smile.gif

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Sergi
srry I dont remeber bad dudes, my gaming started with a 386 that I had, even then i only had a few games for it, at that time i was more entertained by a sandbox.

 

the aliens were never 'seen' persey in gta sa but you had to go steal some of their green goo, and invade a secret military base where they were reverse engineering alien tech. again you never saw them you just stole some stuff that came around because of the aliens.

 

 

Also, I lol at those who dont like my comments of gangsters, blinded by your own stupid pride are we? so cool to wear your pants down so everyone can see you sh*t yourself when you get scared is it? Hahahaha...... (kiddies, endless entertainment they are; although somehow they feel empowered by the internet)

No you're just stupid and making un educated remarks about "gangstas" that are sterotypical and dumb and can be somewhat racist.

 

Here's some gangstas for you now tell me they were uneducated idiots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Barnes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lucas_(drug_lord)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Team

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Hoover

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangster_Disciples

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_Nation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Nation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chambers_Brothers_(gang)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mafia_Family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mafia

 

And I could go on and on. Now all those are what some would call "Gangsta" but they are extremely orgainzed.

 

Here is even a list of some of the orgainzed crime groups and you'll see some" Gangstas" on there as well. Not to mention that's not all of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_crime

 

So let me ask what exactly is "gnagsta" is it only black and spanish and lation people to you? I mean because you do know alot of todays Coasa NOstra, Russian Mafyia, Triads etc work with these "gangstas" and even adapt some of their traits. You don know certain Tongs like that "gangsta" style and dress like "gangstas". You also do know they have Asian and White Crips and Bloods. What about white street gangs do you consider them "gangsta" as well.

 

What is the diifference between "gangstas" and "gangsters" exactly because last time I checked they all did the same sh*t. Murder, deal drugs, pimp women etc.

 

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Flesh-n-Bone

Sergi, man I gotta give you cookies for saving me from wasting my time with a bunch of crazed people trying to tell me what's right or wrong. cookie.gifcookie.gifcookie.gifcookie.gifcookie.gifcookie.gifcookie.gifcookie.gifcookie.gif

 

There is no difference between "gangster" and "gangsta". Both are criminals, enough said.

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srry I dont remeber bad dudes, my gaming started with a 386 that I had, even then i only had a few games for it, at that time i was more entertained by a sandbox.

 

the aliens were never 'seen' persey in gta sa but you had to go steal some of their green goo, and invade a secret military base where they were reverse engineering alien tech.  again you never saw them you just stole some stuff that came around because of the aliens.

 

 

Also, I lol at those who dont like my comments of gangsters, blinded by your own stupid pride are we? so cool to wear your pants down so everyone can see you sh*t yourself when you get scared is it? Hahahaha...... (kiddies, endless entertainment they are; although somehow they feel empowered by the internet)

No you're just stupid and making un educated remarks about "gangstas" that are sterotypical and dumb and can be somewhat racist.

 

Here's some gangstas for you now tell me they were uneducated idiots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Barnes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lucas_(drug_lord)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Team

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Hoover

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangster_Disciples

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_Nation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Nation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chambers_Brothers_(gang)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mafia_Family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mafia

 

And I could go on and on. Now all those are what some would call "Gangsta" but they are extremely orgainzed.

 

Here is even a list of some of the orgainzed crime groups and you'll see some" Gangstas" on there as well. Not to mention that's not all of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_crime

 

So let me ask what exactly is "gnagsta" is it only black and spanish and lation people to you? I mean because you do know alot of todays Coasa NOstra, Russian Mafyia, Triads etc work with these "gangstas" and even adapt some of their traits. You don know certain Tongs like that "gangsta" style and dress like "gangstas". You also do know they have Asian and White Crips and Bloods. What about white street gangs do you consider them "gangsta" as well.

 

What is the diifference between "gangstas" and "gangsters" exactly because last time I checked they all did the same sh*t. Murder, deal drugs, pimp women etc.

Here we go, throwing down the racism card sarcasm.gif

 

Gangta/Gangster, black, white, latino, asian, I don't CARE, they're all stupid and worthless.

 

There's a difference between Organized Crime and Animalistic Thugs. Organized Crime is like the mafia, a syndicate of criminals who have at LEAST have a code of honor among themselves. They are still criminals and therefore still scum, but when compared to "gangstas"...

 

Gangsters (referring to ghetto dwelling hood rats.. skin color is irrelevant so don't try to pull that racist sh!t again) are typically uneducated and have no honor. They will kill you for your shoes, your car, or just because you crossed them. Want to argue with me on that? Be my guest, but I challenge you to spend a night in my neighborhood and afterward, if you survive, tell me if you still think gangsters are cool.

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srry I dont remeber bad dudes, my gaming started with a 386 that I had, even then i only had a few games for it, at that time i was more entertained by a sandbox.

 

the aliens were never 'seen' persey in gta sa but you had to go steal some of their green goo, and invade a secret military base where they were reverse engineering alien tech.  again you never saw them you just stole some stuff that came around because of the aliens.

 

 

Also, I lol at those who dont like my comments of gangsters, blinded by your own stupid pride are we? so cool to wear your pants down so everyone can see you sh*t yourself when you get scared is it? Hahahaha...... (kiddies, endless entertainment they are; although somehow they feel empowered by the internet)

No you're just stupid and making un educated remarks about "gangstas" that are sterotypical and dumb and can be somewhat racist.

 

Here's some gangstas for you now tell me they were uneducated idiots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Barnes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lucas_(drug_lord)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Team

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Hoover

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangster_Disciples

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_Nation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Nation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chambers_Brothers_(gang)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mafia_Family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mafia

 

And I could go on and on. Now all those are what some would call "Gangsta" but they are extremely orgainzed.

 

Here is even a list of some of the orgainzed crime groups and you'll see some" Gangstas" on there as well. Not to mention that's not all of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_crime

 

So let me ask what exactly is "gnagsta" is it only black and spanish and lation people to you? I mean because you do know alot of todays Coasa NOstra, Russian Mafyia, Triads etc work with these "gangstas" and even adapt some of their traits. You don know certain Tongs like that "gangsta" style and dress like "gangstas". You also do know they have Asian and White Crips and Bloods. What about white street gangs do you consider them "gangsta" as well.

 

What is the diifference between "gangstas" and "gangsters" exactly because last time I checked they all did the same sh*t. Murder, deal drugs, pimp women etc.

Here we go, throwing down the racism card sarcasm.gif

 

Gangta/Gangster, black, white, latino, asian, I don't CARE, they're all stupid and worthless.

 

There's a difference between Organized Crime and Animalistic Thugs. Organized Crime is like the mafia, a syndicate of criminals who have at LEAST have a code of honor among themselves. They are still criminals and therefore still scum, but when compared to "gangstas"...

 

Gangsters (referring to ghetto dwelling hood rats.. skin color is irrelevant so don't try to pull that racist sh!t again) are typically uneducated and have no honor. They will kill you for your shoes, your car, or just because you crossed them. Want to argue with me on that? Be my guest, but I challenge you to spend a night in my neighborhood and afterward, if you survive, tell me if you still think gangsters are cool.

That makes sense....

 

Lets get back on topic fellas, Does GTA 4 suck or not??? Lets hear it

 

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srry I dont remeber bad dudes, my gaming started with a 386 that I had, even then i only had a few games for it, at that time i was more entertained by a sandbox.

 

the aliens were never 'seen' persey in gta sa but you had to go steal some of their green goo, and invade a secret military base where they were reverse engineering alien tech.  again you never saw them you just stole some stuff that came around because of the aliens.

 

 

Also, I lol at those who dont like my comments of gangsters, blinded by your own stupid pride are we? so cool to wear your pants down so everyone can see you sh*t yourself when you get scared is it? Hahahaha...... (kiddies, endless entertainment they are; although somehow they feel empowered by the internet)

No you're just stupid and making un educated remarks about "gangstas" that are sterotypical and dumb and can be somewhat racist.

 

Here's some gangstas for you now tell me they were uneducated idiots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Barnes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lucas_(drug_lord)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Team

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Hoover

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangster_Disciples

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_Nation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Nation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chambers_Brothers_(gang)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mafia_Family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mafia

 

And I could go on and on. Now all those are what some would call "Gangsta" but they are extremely orgainzed.

 

Here is even a list of some of the orgainzed crime groups and you'll see some" Gangstas" on there as well. Not to mention that's not all of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_crime

 

So let me ask what exactly is "gnagsta" is it only black and spanish and lation people to you? I mean because you do know alot of todays Coasa NOstra, Russian Mafyia, Triads etc work with these "gangstas" and even adapt some of their traits. You don know certain Tongs like that "gangsta" style and dress like "gangstas". You also do know they have Asian and White Crips and Bloods. What about white street gangs do you consider them "gangsta" as well.

 

What is the diifference between "gangstas" and "gangsters" exactly because last time I checked they all did the same sh*t. Murder, deal drugs, pimp women etc.

Here we go, throwing down the racism card sarcasm.gif

 

Gangta/Gangster, black, white, latino, asian, I don't CARE, they're all stupid and worthless.

 

There's a difference between Organized Crime and Animalistic Thugs. Organized Crime is like the mafia, a syndicate of criminals who have at LEAST have a code of honor among themselves. They are still criminals and therefore still scum, but when compared to "gangstas"...

 

Gangsters (referring to ghetto dwelling hood rats.. skin color is irrelevant so don't try to pull that racist sh!t again) are typically uneducated and have no honor. They will kill you for your shoes, your car, or just because you crossed them. Want to argue with me on that? Be my guest, but I challenge you to spend a night in my neighborhood and afterward, if you survive, tell me if you still think gangsters are cool.

thankyou for being one person with their head screwed on tight.

 

For the sake of clarity my comments were against "gangster" lowlifes, not organized crime. bring back the story stylus of gta3 anyday.

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srry I dont remeber bad dudes, my gaming started with a 386 that I had, even then i only had a few games for it, at that time i was more entertained by a sandbox.

 

the aliens were never 'seen' persey in gta sa but you had to go steal some of their green goo, and invade a secret military base where they were reverse engineering alien tech.  again you never saw them you just stole some stuff that came around because of the aliens.

 

 

Also, I lol at those who dont like my comments of gangsters, blinded by your own stupid pride are we? so cool to wear your pants down so everyone can see you sh*t yourself when you get scared is it? Hahahaha...... (kiddies, endless entertainment they are; although somehow they feel empowered by the internet)

No you're just stupid and making un educated remarks about "gangstas" that are sterotypical and dumb and can be somewhat racist.

 

Here's some gangstas for you now tell me they were uneducated idiots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Barnes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lucas_(drug_lord)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Team

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Hoover

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangster_Disciples

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_Nation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Nation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chambers_Brothers_(gang)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mafia_Family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mafia

 

And I could go on and on. Now all those are what some would call "Gangsta" but they are extremely orgainzed.

 

Here is even a list of some of the orgainzed crime groups and you'll see some" Gangstas" on there as well. Not to mention that's not all of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_crime

 

So let me ask what exactly is "gnagsta" is it only black and spanish and lation people to you? I mean because you do know alot of todays Coasa NOstra, Russian Mafyia, Triads etc work with these "gangstas" and even adapt some of their traits. You don know certain Tongs like that "gangsta" style and dress like "gangstas". You also do know they have Asian and White Crips and Bloods. What about white street gangs do you consider them "gangsta" as well.

 

What is the diifference between "gangstas" and "gangsters" exactly because last time I checked they all did the same sh*t. Murder, deal drugs, pimp women etc.

Here we go, throwing down the racism card sarcasm.gif

 

Gangta/Gangster, black, white, latino, asian, I don't CARE, they're all stupid and worthless.

 

There's a difference between Organized Crime and Animalistic Thugs. Organized Crime is like the mafia, a syndicate of criminals who have at LEAST have a code of honor among themselves. They are still criminals and therefore still scum, but when compared to "gangstas"...

 

Gangsters (referring to ghetto dwelling hood rats.. skin color is irrelevant so don't try to pull that racist sh!t again) are typically uneducated and have no honor. They will kill you for your shoes, your car, or just because you crossed them. Want to argue with me on that? Be my guest, but I challenge you to spend a night in my neighborhood and afterward, if you survive, tell me if you still think gangsters are cool.

And where do you get that these "ghetto dwelling hood rats" have no code of honor? Because what you like to beleive? Because of what you've seen on tv? I've posted direct evidence of "ghetto hood rats" in your mind earelier that are far from animalistic. You guys are just f*cking dumb and want to beleive that the Mafia is still the top dogs in the US when in all actuality they're not.

 

Now there was a reason I didn't post regualr street gangs in those links such as Bloods or Crips but they are also both heavily organized but just aren't as organized as other orginizations. Where in the hell do you get bullsh*t like they kill over shoes and other non sense like that? Oh yeah you just pull it out your ass along with your other biased, outdated ideals.

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Gangsters are scums. Don't glorify them, no matter how many mobsters movies you've seen or how much music you've listened to. Most of them are just ruthless killers.

 

 

On topic: GTA IV will be appreciated when the next installement is released. This is how it always was. San Andreas was bitten by the fans here, until a few years later they have grown to accept it. Goddamn sheep.

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Gangsters are scums. Don't glorify them, no matter how many mobsters movies you've seen or how much music you've listened to. Most of them are just ruthless killers.

 

 

On topic: GTA IV will be appreciated when the next installement is released. This is how it always was. San Andreas was biten by the fans here, until a few years later they have grown to accept it. Goddamn sheep.

I've been on these forums since 2004 but I actually joined in 2008 and the big majorirty of the SA hate threads were all bullsh*t threads when people were just complaing about being "gangsta" or black.

 

IV is appreciated now but it's way too overhyped by the same few people.

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Gangsters are scums. Don't glorify them, no matter how many mobsters movies you've seen or how much music you've listened to. Most of them are just ruthless killers.

 

 

On topic: GTA IV will be appreciated when the next installement is released. This is how it always was. San Andreas was biten by the fans here, until a few years later they have grown to accept it. Goddamn sheep.

I've been on these forums since 2004 but I actually joined in 2008 and the big majorirty of the SA hate threads were all bullsh*t threads when people were just complaing about being "gangsta" or black.

 

IV is appreciated now but it's way too overhyped by the same few people.

that is correct this game had tooo much hype rampage_ani.gif

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I've been on these forums since 2004 but I actually joined in 2008 and the big majorirty of the SA hate threads were all bullsh*t threads when people were just complaing about being "gangsta" or black.

 

IV is appreciated now but it's way too overhyped by the same few people.

Yeah, a bunch of stupid dickheads have to make threads about their hate towards SA because you play as a black guy and the gang life.

 

 

IV is overrated, not half that good as people make it out to be. Yes I completed it, easy game and it's boring as hell once you complete it.

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Bunch of stupid dickheads have been making threads about their hate towards GTA IV too

 

bunch of stupid dickheads = people who don't agree with us

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Yeah I know, did I even deny the fact there are so many disappointment threads about IV, but they had a valid reason to post it and expressed themselves properly.

 

Unlike this prick: http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=188855

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