Do you think...

[Creed Bratton]

In my country anyone can play any game. As long as they know how. Parents know it is only a game, and kids know that too. We never had a kid shooting or killing for no reason. Actually, we have no child murderers at all unless they die in a traffic accident

[Girish]

I think it's no problem for children who older then 11.

Is it supposed to be some kind of irony that your username ends with a '10'?

 

Frankly speaking, it doesn't matter what age you are as long as you know that it's just a game and anything that happens in the game is not supposed to be recreated in real life.

[--Vega--]

There's no problem with anybody of any age playing GTA. If they think it's real and the game inspires them to commit crimes, then they're weak people.

[HolyGrenadeFrenzy]

 

Do you think there is a problem if children play GTA?

I think it's no problem for children who older then 11.

As long as they can express it with some sort of grammatical sense then I can see no harm in it.

 

But then again......I am looking for the THOUGHT in this thread entitled "Do you think.." and I have found very little.

 

 

I had hoped this was going to be a philosophy topic.

 

Criminal Law mixing it up with Parenting Requirements and a host of other things over video games seems like excuses to put the state in more control of each and every person by controlling the nuclear family.....

 

Even if it is wrong I have seen many far worse things over the decades...far worse and many of the kids found their way and become outstanding people.

 

The trick here is that governements, via elitists everywhere, and "control fanatics" pretend with an air of prententious self righteous indignation that they have a formula for a better way fo raising children when in fact their kids are far worse than anyone else's but what they are really doing is getting off on a power trip over on everybody else but "their own kind".

 

Basically, it is just another method to demonstate the power and control group A can exert over group B.

 

Video games are just one of a long list of excuses and methods of this methodology.

 

It used to be Rock and Roll and girly magazines......and it will be again....and again.....and again ...and again.

Edited August 11, 2008 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy

[Wanted Assailant]

Do you think there is a problem if children play GTA?

I think it's no problem for children who older then 11.

As long as they can express it with some sort of grammatical sense then I can see no harm in it.

 

But then again......I am looking for the THOUGHT in this thread entitled "Do you think.." and I have found very little.

 

 

I had hoped this was going to be a philosophy topic.

 

Criminal Law mixing it up with Parenting Requirements and a host of other things over video games seems like excuses to put the state in more control of each and every person by controlling the nuclear family.....

 

Even if it is wrong I have seen many far worse things over the decades...far worse and many of the kids found their way and become outstanding people.

 

The trick here is that governements, via elitists everywhere, and "control fanatics" pretend with an air of prententious self righteous indignation that they have a formula for a better way fo raising children when in fact their kids are far worse than anyone else's but what they are really doing is getting off on a power trip over on everybody else but "their own kind".

 

Basically, it is just another method to demonstate the power and control group A can exert over group B.

 

Video games are just one of a long list of excuses and methods of this methodology.

 

It used to be Rock and Roll and girly magazines......and it will be again....and again.....and again ...and again.

Pretty much it.

 

 

Welcome to the Dark Age.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's no respawn.

[Slamman]

In reply to HGF, I am more akin to Deep Thoughts with Jack Handy.

Thinking tends to give me a headache, which implies to me that my brain doesn't like it much.

When you/I think of what coders, engineers, and mathematicians do day in and day out...well, my head nearly explodes!!

 

That's why I admit I do gush over the state of console [& computer] games, to me it's hella impressive, considering the beginning and Pong.

No, 11 years old is still too young, sorry guy!

Edited August 12, 2008 by Slamman

[Otter]

I think there's a problem with idiotic or psychotic children playing GTA, for sure. Those kids are going to find something to inspire them eventually, however.

[Slamman]

It's not a great Life instructor teaching tool, that's fer sure.

While growing up, we had alotted TV time, we had board games, we had very early electronic toys like Light Brite and Simon.

[Otter]

You also had Treasure Island, and Barbarella. Don't make your youth sound too much more innocent than today - I see that far too often.

[Slamman]

Compared to today, there's no comparison! Believe me! I like that fact, I have to admit, but I'll admit bad and hard times in the past don't hold up considering the good times one remembers.

 

I can't relate generation gaps that are 10 plus years different... but I see young kids taking interest in what we did, or missed out on for whatever reason. I don't recall much of 1976, as one example...but I lived through the Bicentennial year.

[jedimario]

Should 18 year olds be allowed to f*ck 14 year olds? Should I be allowed to kill you? Should a 4 year old smoke meth?

 

I'd like to say you presented a valid reason as to why children under the age requirement for a game, should be allowed to play. Yet, I see it is severely lacking. The answer is no.

 

I don't give a sh*t if this 8 year old is a well rounded child. The fact remains, games like Manhunt and Grand Theft Auto are not suit nor directed at 8 year olds. Just because your incompetent parents ignore warnings and a self imposed rating system and then blame the game when you maim your cousin, doesn't mean that is responsible.

 

Do you know why there is so much controversy over violence in video games? It isn't because of the violence. It is because children under the age of that game are allowed to play them by neglectful parents. It is abuse when your mom lets you play Grand Theft Auto and Manhunt. She is mentally abusing you. But, she doesn't care.

 

You know how I know she doesn't care? Because she doesn't mother the f*ck up and tell your spoiled little ass 'NO.' No, it isn't your f*cking right either to play them. No, in fact, you are a CHILD, you have no f*cking rights, except a good home, a roof over your head, food on the table, clean clothes, and an education.

 

Don't give me the bullsh*t 'But, I'm mature for my age,' because you aren't. Especially, if you think playing Teen rated games makes you mature. It doesn't.

Go tell you mom and dad that they need to be f*cking responsible and take a goddamn active interest in what you do online, in your video games, at school, etc. And they can start by banning you from this forum dedicated to the very games you are not old enough for.

I would encourage you to define child. My definition for the purpose of this argument is not based on age but rather a state of mind.

 

IRT Svip:

 

There is no "guidline" or "law" or anything in the US when it comes to playing the game, just buying it. Any person of any age can legally watch or play anything they can get their hands on, they just can't buy it themselves.

[Slamman]

It is age based, in terms of legislation and purchasing requirements, and all manner of public, generalized access to ADULT things. There is a reason for having these and young people can't be the ones picking and choosing what they are mature enough to handle, as much as you maybe an exception, it then comes down to parents and supervision in that regard, but society as a whole can't simply rely on that basis alone.

[jedimario]

I understand why from a legal standpoint it must be age-based. It would be impossible to individually evaluate everyone to determine whether or not certain material is appropriate for them, so the legislators have to rely on studies to show them the "average", if you will, age that certain content becomes appropriate.

 

But of course that does not mean that once one turns a certain age he is ready, nor does it mean that you can't be ready before turning that certain age. It's just a law.

 

It's all a farce anyway, the laws are hardly enforced and once the game or video is out of the store it can be viewed by anyone of any age with parental consent. And let's get real, there aren't a lot of parents anymore that actually care.

[Slamman]

Yes, we have a winner and I was going to pinpoint a first page reply in saying that parents of children or adult off spring who finally snap tend to show shock in the matter and that they were blissfully unaware of mental condition of their own children. Why is it when this appears a culture that loves, just LOVES babies!?!?

 

Think about how GTA4 really takes this and puts comic spin to it in it's social satire!

[Jack_Knife]

Do you think there is a problem if children play GTA?

I think it's no problem for children who older then 11.

You're 11 and you're trying to convince your parents to let you play the game, aren't you.

 

I started playing GTA1 when it came out, when I would have been about 9 or 10. I'm a magnificent human specimen, and therefore it's cool for kids to play GTA.

[1235678910]

3 pages, out of my expect

i'm 14 and i play gta for about half year.

i also think if a person to kill and steal car like gta, he/she may not play gta before.

so, you must control yourself and don't do anything illegal, expect playing gta.

 

ps: did you see my flag and i come from hong kong?

i saw many of you came from usa and canada

[Juice By Kayla Marie]

I don't think it depends on the age, It depends on the maturity level..

I'm sixteen, I'm mature.. I don't see why I wouldn't be able to play a Mature game that I bought.

I think this goes for anything, R rated movies, etc.

If you're mature, there shouldn't be a problem.

[1066ant]

 

I don't think it depends on the age, It depends on the maturity level..

I'm sixteen, I'm mature.. I don't see why I wouldn't be able to play a Mature game that I bought.

I think this goes for anything, R rated movies, etc.

If you're mature, there shouldn't be a problem.

Oddly this does not always go to parents, I can watch an over 18 film and play Doom 3 and Quake 4 but not GTA 4.

 

I guess it depends on how the content is delivered, in Doom and Quake you are up against set enemys, in GTA you can go round killing randomly.

[Struff Bunstridge]

Any person of any age can legally watch or play anything they can get their hands on, they just can't buy it themselves.

This is probably the most pertinent point. How much of the age restriction laws are in place to cover the ass of the retailer? Once the game leaves the store, and they're satisfied it been purchased by someone mature enough to handle it (in the eyes of the law, at least), it's not their problem who uses it post-sale.

[Rhoda]

Then that must mean the supplier can get into no trouble at all, despite the fact most retailers rarely check ages were I live. In shops around Manchester I've seen kids half my age in the queue in front of me buying 15 and 18 games. Granted, it's not such a big deal when it comes to 15 games but there must be a call for tighter restrictions if shops are to be stripped of blame entirely.

 

And I don't know about you, but this is getting deep. I call for a move to Debates & Discussion.

[Juice By Kayla Marie]

I remember I bought gta 3 by myself ... no problem.

bought all of them myself actually.

but I look older than I am

[Alick]

To be honest I've done a lot worse things than play Grand Theft Auto underage. I played the first GTA when I was 4, and have played everyone since. There isn't any problem. I hate protective parents, people in organisations trying to ban things, it annoys me to hell.

[Serge.]

I think isn't problem.

Anyway we watch TV, there more violence, cruelty, ect; in the real world.

Children see all this. This prepares them for life in the real world, where there is rape, drugs, murder, terrorizm, and worse than.

[Tony Mozzarelli 80]

To be honest i don't think it's a problem as long as you have the maturity to deal with it. It's only morons who are going to go out and try to re-create this stuff, and the chances are they are dragged up anyway, so their parents will be too busy being self absorbed to stop them from playing it. I think if they spent more time educating people they wouldn't need age restrictions, because parents would know their children well enough to know what kind of material they could be subjected to

[explicitmo]

I watched "Beverly Hills Cop" the first time when I was 6... and I'm a sick individual now with 25. I just play gory games and watch movies like Reservoir Dogs, Scarface or Evil Dead (and comedy) + I smoke weed and drink much liquor all of that younger than allowed.

 

I also got a regular well paid job now, a black beamer, haven't killed anybody yet (only cops, no normal people), and have sex on a regular... stick with Harry Potter or you will grow up to be just like me!!!

 

Edited August 12, 2008 by explicitmo

[Ghost glendale fan 4 live]

I was allowed to play GTA III when I was young, and I dont randomly feel like inflicting violence on people or stealing cars, and I know its very wrong to do these things. I think its ok to play it when your around 11 - 12, as long as you have a talk to your parents about it.

 

I know lots of people will most likley disagree with that but thats my opinion.

I also watched my uncle and his friends play GTA 3 when I was 6, I even played GTA 3 when I was 6,

[PowerPats]

i dont think its a problem, I played gta2 when i was 10 years old

[Spräckta]

I've played GTA for a long long time, since about 5th grade actually (16 now) and I've only murdered four people.

[GTASIX]

Id agree with what people are saying. 11-12 is ok to play GTA with parents OK before hand.

[Seachmall]

It's illegal. That's a bit of a problem.

It's illegal to sell and supply an 18s game to anyone under 18 but I don't think it's illegal for them to play it.

 

I think people are over-cautious about most things including music, films, games, porn etc. Basically most things that provide an escape for teenagers who are feeling stressed out are taken from them leading them to be even more stressed out. Sh*t, masterbation (SP?) used to be looked down upon, can't imagine living in those dark, dark times.