Toxicity² Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Motherboard - ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 - $269.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131284 CPU - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield - $194.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115017 RAM - OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 - $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820227298 Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS - $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136218 Video Card - EVGA 01G-P3-1280-AR GeForce GTX 280 -$449.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130365 I'm building a new PC as my current PC is outdated, do you think the 550w PSU I use now could support this? Or should I get a 700w+ PSU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picolini Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 It should do ok, the 280 needs a minimum of 550W PSU, so it should just hang in there. But it would probably be safe to go with something higher. 700W might be a little unnecessary, so if you're on a tight budget a 600W-650W should do fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Fozborne Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Keep in mind that PSU's degrade in their wattage output by 5-15% each year. So it will be OK for now, but you're going to want to upgrade soon before it fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicity² Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 Keep in mind that PSU's degrade in their wattage output by 5-15% each year. So it will be OK for now, but you're going to want to upgrade soon before it fails. That might be a problem because I've had this PSU since 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 You should probably just get a 650-750 watt one, they're pretty cheap now days. $20-$40 QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star-Lord Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 (Fozzy Fozborne @ Aug 10 2008, 18:06) Keep in mind that PSU's degrade in their wattage output by 5-15% each year. So it will be OK for now, but you're going to want to upgrade soon before it fails. True that I've replaced two of them already and they were practically new. Toxicity² Posted on Aug 10 2008, 20:17 That might be a problem because I've had this PSU since 2005. confused.gif Yea! it would be best to upgrade the PS now that you are in the process of upgrading you can save more cash if you get it all on the same order. BTW: Great system it's going to be sweet as hell. GTAIV will run like a race car on that rig Here's an excellent review with full detail of the MOBO http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardw...ard-review.html OT: SagaciousKJB: I happen to come across that Linux code you posted we'll and: The follow code you posted is for the use of creating new process with it's own ID and to duplicate the 'Parents file descriptors' each childs descriptors obtain makes a new copy and that copy makes a new copy whereas the main parent points to the the same open window. File locks will be set by Parent process and shall not be inherited by the child process. Set of signals pending for the child process shall be initialized to the empty set. System time clock will be reset to zero once execution takes place. This is not the code for memory Optimization it's more like some sort of replicator almost like 'Trojan on steroids' Besides all memory allocations are done through 'MAP_PRIVATE mappings' which is nowhere in the code you provided so it's definitely going to bog your system down to a complete halt. I knew it was bad news the moment I saw the 'FORK' command within the code. Nice One..your a a dignified Geek and I mean it with all good intentions. BTW: a min would be too much time I would say 25-30 secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 OT: SagaciousKJB: I happen to come across that Linux code you posted we'll and: The follow code you posted is for the use of creating new process with it's own ID and to duplicate the 'Parents file descriptors' each childs descriptors obtain makes a new copy and that copy makes a new copy whereas the main parent points to the the same open window. File locks will be set by Parent process and shall not be inherited by the child process. Set of signals pending for the child process shall be initialized to the empty set. System time clock will be reset to zero once execution takes place. This is not the code for memory Optimization it's more like some sort of replicator almost like 'Trojan on steroids' Besides all memory allocations are done through 'MAP_PRIVATE mappings' which is nowhere in the code you provided so it's definitely going to bog your system down to a complete halt. I knew it was bad news the moment I saw the 'FORK' command within the code. Nice One..your a a dignified Geek and I mean it with all good intentions. BTW: a min would be too much time I would say 25-30 secs. Heh, that's interesting, I was just looking at the Random Questions post to see if anyone had responded. Anyway, good eye, but I wonder if t could fool the more novice code compiler/programmer. I think anytime you see "fork()" in a while loop, it's time to stay away. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democrab Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Save some money on the Graphics, get a Radeon HD4870, its very close to the GTX 280, and you'll be able to spend money elsewhere to end up faster, Try and get a Penryn/45nm Quad Core (Q9xx0 series) and a DFI motherboard, ASUS sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazymodder Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Save some money on the Graphics, get a Radeon HD4870, its very close to the GTX 280, and you'll be able to spend money elsewhere to end up faster, Try and get a Penryn/45nm Quad Core (Q9xx0 series) and a DFI motherboard, ASUS sucks. or a 4870X2. that might be faster but costy on electric bills. get a normal 4870 is better than a dual GPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statutory Ray Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 You don't need anything higher than a 500w, ever, if even that. The main thing you want to look for is the amperage on the 12v rails, which is what the CPU and graphics card use. A higher wattage power supply (for example, they sell 1KW power supplies) is just a waste of money, in terms of power used and total cost. Unless you're running 4+ harddrives, multiple optical drives, 2+ processors, SLI, etc. you WON'T need more than 500w, and you could probably get by with 430w as long as the amperes on the 12v rail(s) add up. Wattage is NOT the most important thing in regards to power supplies. Buy a well-priced, moderately powerful and well-reviewed PSU from newegg, and you will most likely always get a quality choice. There's a reason people don't buy PSUs much higher than 500w. I'm sure your 550w power supply will be perfectly fine. Keep in mind that PSU's degrade in their wattage output by 5-15% each year. So it will be OK for now, but you're going to want to upgrade soon before it fails. PSU's never "degrade in their wattage output." They lose efficiency, which means they use more power to convert to get the needed amperes, and will continue to power the components until it fails. Over-loading is a large problem with this. A lower-wattage power supply will support more than it seems, but it will fail quicker because it's going beyond it's capacity. Basically, it will overheat and fry before it simply stop giving power to any component. On the other hand, an over-powered PSU is less efficient if it's not used to it's capacity, and will cost more money and fail quicker than a PSU fit for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak2121 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 You should probably just get a 650-750 watt one, they're pretty cheap now days. $20-$40 What!?!?!?!!?Aren't they like 200 dollars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statutory Ray Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 You should probably just get a 650-750 watt one, they're pretty cheap now days. $20-$40 What!?!?!?!!?Aren't they like 200 dollars? Yes. If they are that cheap, they're probably crappy quality and don't output the advertised wattage. As I said, a good priced, moderately powerful (450-550w) and well-reviewed PSU on Newegg is the best bet if you want a new one. Since you already have a 550w, it's most likely enough to handle what you're planning on using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak2121 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 You should probably just get a 650-750 watt one, they're pretty cheap now days. $20-$40 What!?!?!?!!?Aren't they like 200 dollars? Yes. If they are that cheap, they're probably crappy quality and don't output the advertised wattage. As I said, a good priced, moderately powerful (450-550w) and well-reviewed PSU on Newegg is the best bet if you want a new one. Since you already have a 550w, it's most likely enough to handle what you're planning on using. Uhh I think I have a 250W PSU. Or am I mistaking it cause I have: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Geforce 8500GT 512MB 4GBs of DDR2 RAM 750GB hard drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picolini Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 You should probably just get a 650-750 watt one, they're pretty cheap now days. $20-$40 What!?!?!?!!?Aren't they like 200 dollars? Yes. If they are that cheap, they're probably crappy quality and don't output the advertised wattage. As I said, a good priced, moderately powerful (450-550w) and well-reviewed PSU on Newegg is the best bet if you want a new one. Since you already have a 550w, it's most likely enough to handle what you're planning on using. Uhh I think I have a 250W PSU. Or am I mistaking it cause I have: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Geforce 8500GT 512MB 4GBs of DDR2 RAM 750GB hard drive I know that Dells that have the Q6600 with OUT a separate graphics card run 350W PSUs, I doubt they'd put in a higher wattage one then they'd need (do to costs), so I'm assuming to safely run what you've got you'd need more than 250w. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Fozborne Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 You don't need anything higher than a 500w, ever, if even that. The main thing you want to look for is the amperage on the 12v rails, which is what the CPU and graphics card use. A higher wattage power supply (for example, they sell 1KW power supplies) is just a waste of money, in terms of power used and total cost. Unless you're running 4+ harddrives, multiple optical drives, 2+ processors, SLI, etc. you WON'T need more than 500w, and you could probably get by with 430w as long as the amperes on the 12v rail(s) add up. Wattage is NOT the most important thing in regards to power supplies. Buy a well-priced, moderately powerful and well-reviewed PSU from newegg, and you will most likely always get a quality choice. There's a reason people don't buy PSUs much higher than 500w. I'm sure your 550w power supply will be perfectly fine. Keep in mind that PSU's degrade in their wattage output by 5-15% each year. So it will be OK for now, but you're going to want to upgrade soon before it fails. PSU's never "degrade in their wattage output." They lose efficiency, which means they use more power to convert to get the needed amperes, and will continue to power the components until it fails. Over-loading is a large problem with this. A lower-wattage power supply will support more than it seems, but it will fail quicker because it's going beyond it's capacity. Basically, it will overheat and fry before it simply stop giving power to any component. On the other hand, an over-powered PSU is less efficient if it's not used to it's capacity, and will cost more money and fail quicker than a PSU fit for the job. Really? I remember when looking at one of the PSU calculators to add 5-15% to the total wattage number if you plan on using it more than one year to account for loss in capacity. Sorry for the misinformation. This Corsair 750 watt power supply has 60 amps and is of excellent quality. I'd recommend that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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