I think i know why people find Gta 4 boring.

[gta4pc!]

yep niko is quite boring to be honest! he is always sad with no enthusiasm! now take a look at carl johnson he was always cheerfull with his gang in grove street! i hope they make another san andreas . i havent yet played the game but ive seen videos i will be playing the game in bout a months time!

[Capricornus]

 

I think it is Niko because he is god awful imo i think he is a boring hipocrit and while playing he hardly talks and is never happy also in missions he dosen`t like to kill people but yet while you roam around you can kill as many people as you like with out remorse.

 

i know R* wanted to make this realistic but jeez they should of made Niko cheer the f*ck up.

Niko beats every other character , even old f*cking snake.

 

and you're the hypocrite.

That has to be one of the dumbest things that I have heard this week alone.

 

 

It's the truth , live with it.

Your only saying these things because you don't like the MGS series. If you take time out to play it, you'd realize that Snake is a much better character than Niko, and despite how good Niko is, he's nowhere near as half as good as Snake. Michael Hollick (or whatever his name is) can't compare to the legend that is David Hayter. I highly respect your opinion Oldage, but I don't agree. But, to each's own I suppose.

 

JohnnyK, have you still got your copy of GTA IV? Just curious.

[SaintJimmy]

I think it is Niko because he is god awful imo i think he is a boring hipocrit and while playing he hardly talks and is never happy also in missions he dosen`t like to kill people but yet while you roam around you can kill as many people as you like with out remorse.

 

i know R* wanted to make this realistic but jeez they should of made Niko cheer the f*ck up.

Niko beats every other character , even old f*cking snake.

 

and you're the hypocrite.

That has to be one of the dumbest things that I have heard this week alone.

 

 

It's the truth , live with it.

OH GO HOME.

GO HOME, GO HOME, GO HOME.

see how I used caps there?

yeah, that's because,

actually no. i'm not going to explain it to you because if you're dumb enough to think that Niko Bellic, some immigrant that had a bit of a cry because he was in war could own Solid Snake, the, the, well theres too many damn reasons as to why snake = pwnage, then you're too dumb to understand why i used caps.

 

@capricornus, no he doesnt have his copy of gta iv. he made a big rant on why/how he sold it.

[Hart]

I like that they bring the question of God and Heaven into the plot line, though Roman and the peds often exclaim the Lord's name in a state of shock.... it echoes what I think is wrong with society, a bit of lack of respect for religions, in particular... Christianity which is sad, because I grew up in a Church going family, and we are all nice people, bottom line. God as we know him is a God of Love, and that's hardly offensive.

 

With respect to the game, there is war as the seed of all conflict, in the character's background... For others in LC, it's drugs to get out of poverty, and the McRearies? Domestic problems of all sorts, but the characters are all discussing it, which in terms of story line is a good avenue, however, it is disposition (Exposition is the word IIRC??) <sp?> at the end of the day.

Am I missing something? How does God and Heaven tie in with the story? Please explain

[SaintJimmy]

I like that they bring the question of God and Heaven into the plot line, though Roman and the peds often exclaim the Lord's name in a state of shock.... it echoes what I think is wrong with society, a bit of lack of respect for religions, in particular... Christianity which is sad, because I grew up in a Church going family, and we are all nice people, bottom line. God as we know him is a God of Love, and that's hardly offensive.

 

With respect to the game, there is war as the seed of all conflict, in the character's background... For others in LC, it's drugs to get out of poverty, and the McRearies? Domestic problems of all sorts, but the characters are all discussing it, which in terms of story line is a good avenue, however, it is disposition (Exposition is the word IIRC??) <sp?> at the end of the day.

Am I missing something? How does God and Heaven tie in with the story? Please explain

Man, either Slamman's on some serious acid right now, or that was actually this cat:

Who had THIS to say on GTA IV:

 

5.6.2008: (Note: I have not played this game since it is rated "M" and isn't allowed on the Fellowship U campus, so I am basing this mini-review on Secular media reports.) Grand Theft Auto IV is a game designed to brain-wash players into the Atheist worldview. In it you play Nick, an immigrant recently arrived to Liberty City (a copy of New York City) who is tasked with stealing cars and murdering prostitutes. Nick came from a former Communist country where he was brought up in Godlessness and so he sees no problem stealing and murdering. The game touts its ability to let you "go anywhere and do anything you want", the central philosophy of Atheism. It also teaches how to escape from police, instilling in the player the main motivation behind Atheism: avoidance of authority. The underlying game engine is called "RAGE", which is apt since the game is fueled by anger at God. It also uses something called "Euphoria" which treats humans as "rag dolls" who act only in accordance to physics, which is what Atheistic Materialism teaches. The game series (as the title notes, this is the fourth game) has already resulted in murders in real life. This game has no redeemable qualities. Needless to say, all Christians should avoid this game and pray for the people who made it and their victims (murder victims and gamers of all ages who have played it and have been spiritually scarred).

[Machida]

pwnage,

"Get some nuts"

 

I can understand why some people would argue Niko is a better "character" than Solid Snake. Snake takes on the role of the "player's presence" in Metal Gears games. He doesn't have many of his own thoughts in the game, it's mostly left up to the player to decide. Most of his dialogue includes repeating the words that have just been said to him, again to take on the role of the player.

 

Niko has much more of his own personality and there's less room left up for the player to decide what's going on. I'd say that Snake was the best video game character becuase he allows the player to think more for themselves. He's basically a talking version of Claude. But each to their own, I can understand both arguments.

[Hart]

pwnage,

"Get some nuts"

 

I can understand why some people would argue Niko is a better "character" than Solid Snake. Snake takes on the role of the "player's presence" in Metal Gears games. He doesn't have many of his own thoughts in the game, it's mostly left up to the player to decide. Most of his dialogue includes repeating the words that have just been said to him, again to take on the role of the player.

 

Niko has much more of his own personality and there's less room left up for the player to decide what's going on. I'd say that Snake was the best video game character becuase he allows the player to think more for themselves. He's basically a talking version of Claude. But each to their own, I can understand both arguments.

Yeah but Snake has a mullet and wears a bandana.

 

HES BADASS

[SkapeGote]

Now I do not know about Niko, as I have not played GTA4 yeat. but I will stand firm on the Solid Snake is not a very good character. The only metal gear game was on the NES, the rest have always been basically overacted, poorly written games. Game play wise, they are okay, but SS is a badly written character. all Metal Gear games are nowadays are formulated like this:

 

Mission

cutscene

Mission

longer Cut scene

Mission

even longer cut screne

Stealth Mission

long, pointless, overly emotional cuttscene

cuttscene

cuttscene

MORE cutscene

 

And the writting is awful, like porn bad

 

Skape

[SaintJimmy]

K, not going to argue with your other statements about MGS but the fact still remains that Solid Snake could kick Niko's ass ANYDAY, and on the bad-ass-o-meter, snake would BREAK it wheras Niko would be straining to reach some sort of significant part of the meter.

[Hart]

SkapeGote: I'd get rid of all that before YourNeighborhoodKiller comes along..

[oldage]

I think it is Niko because he is god awful imo i think he is a boring hipocrit and while playing he hardly talks and is never happy also in missions he dosen`t like to kill people but yet while you roam around you can kill as many people as you like with out remorse.

 

i know R* wanted to make this realistic but jeez they should of made Niko cheer the f*ck up.

Niko beats every other character , even old f*cking snake.

 

and you're the hypocrite.

That has to be one of the dumbest things that I have heard this week alone.

 

 

It's the truth , live with it.

OH GO HOME.

GO HOME, GO HOME, GO HOME.

see how I used caps there?

yeah, that's because,

actually no. i'm not going to explain it to you because if you're dumb enough to think that Niko Bellic, some immigrant that had a bit of a cry because he was in war could own Solid Snake, the, the, well theres too many damn reasons as to why snake = pwnage, then you're too dumb to understand why i used caps.

 

I'm dumb yes , but if you begin with the childish stuff , you're the dumbass.

 

 

OH GO HOME , GO HOME GO HOME.

 

 

 

childish.

freak.

[SkapeGote]

lol, I think he would kick Niko ass. That I am not even going to question. I guess I never got into the japanese game conventions. For example the last great Japanese RPG I played was SNES FF3, FF6 I think it was in Japan. I prefer a Euro/Yank style game. Like Naruto, Anime, Honda Civics just don't do it for me. I am too old I think. The only anime I liked, ever, was Vampire Hunter D.

 

You can tell that GTA4 was not a Japanese Game, mostly because you cannot jump 35 ft in the air, look like a girl but claim to be a boy, weigh more than 100 lbs, wear anything neon, and there are no decade long cut scenes. That is how Snake got so old, it had nothing to do with what they did to him, they just made him watch his own cutscenes.

 

That being said, the gameplay is pretty fun in the MG games. I just think the story is not all that and a bag of chips. It ranks more along the lines of ShowGirls or Ishtar for writting quality in my opinion

 

Skape

 

 

[oldage]

lol, I think he would kick Niko ass. That I am not even going to question. I guess I never got into the japanese game conventions. For example the last great Japanese RPG I played was SNES FF3, FF6 I think it was in Japan. I prefer a Euro/Yank style game. Like Naruto, Anime, Honda Civics just don't do it for me. I am too old I think. The only anime I liked, ever, was Vampire Hunter D.

 

You can tell that GTA4 was not a Japanese Game, mostly because you cannot jump 35 ft in the air, look like a girl but claim to be a boy, weigh more than 100 lbs, wear anything neon, and there are no decade long cut scenes. That is how Snake got so old, it had nothing to do with what they did to him, they just made him watch his own cutscenes.

 

That being said, the gameplay is pretty fun in the MG games. I just think the story is not all that and a bag of chips. It ranks more along the lines of ShowGirls or Ishtar for writting quality in my opinion

 

Skape

Everyone has his own opinion , and i don't like stealthgames.

 

and the bold: That made me laugh

[Hart]

IMO, I liked watching the cutscenes. Great graphics and lots of action and it helped tell the story. They were like mini films.

[oldage]

IMO, I liked watching the cutscenes. Great graphics and lots of action and it helped tell the story. They were like mini films.

Actually i enjoy watching them too...

and they give more information about the mission (i'm lending game from my nephew)

althought i still like the cutscene of elizabetha's last mission (i think) when she shoots manny and his cameraman =p

[SaintJimmy]

Exactly. It made me play it more, and it made the game last a HELL of a lot longer.

And I said 'go home' because I didnt want to say anything insulting because thats your opinion. if i were to say anything like 'f*ck off' or w/e, i'd just seem dickish as opposed to childish.

[Darrel]

 

I think it is Niko because he is god awful imo i think he is a boring hipocrit and while playing he hardly talks and is never happy also in missions he dosen`t like to kill people but yet while you roam around you can kill as many people as you like with out remorse.

 

i know R* wanted to make this realistic but jeez they should of made Niko cheer the f*ck up.

You try to pick on everything, and you f*cking fail. you're 22 and you're f*cking pathetic mate. Proper loser!

Edited August 11, 2008 by Darrel

[Bad Obsession]

Catalina rapes CJ.

 

 

I dont call that rape, i call it good luck.

[Jaytow]

I think it is Niko because he is god awful imo i think he is a boring hipocrit and while playing he hardly talks and is never happy also in missions he dosen`t like to kill people but yet while you roam around you can kill as many people as you like with out remorse.

 

i know R* wanted to make this realistic but jeez they should of made Niko cheer the f*ck up.

Niko beats every other character , even old f*cking snake.

 

and you're the hypocrite.

the only gta character that is written and voiced a tenth aswell as snake is tommy. face facts people there is f*ck all to do in IV after the story and thats a drag. lets hope we get some good features through dlc

[Raptomex]

If any GTA character is a hypocrite it's Victor Vance. Niko is not an issue.

[Insideman357]

So you dont like Niko i mean thats just your opinion and thats fine your entitled to your opinion but if your going to claim most or all people hate him and makes the game worse you are going to have to present some evidence.

 

I would think that gameplay flaws would cause someone to find the game boring.Think of GTA 3 the guy was a mute he was boring but it still was a successful game.

[.Up&Coming.]

Still trolling the GTA IV boards, I see?

Here's a tip:

 

GTFO.

 

That is all.

[oldage]

Still trolling the GTA IV boards, I see?

Here's a tip:

 

GTFO.

 

That is all.

Damn , you should become teacher.

[.Up&Coming.]

Haha, I don't know if that was a compliment or not.

Anyway, I'm just saying that he's constantly making negative topics about this game...

 

Now you're bashing NIKO? Come on! He's one of the best characters in a video game I've ever seen. He has issues in his life, feelings, concerns, etc.

Niko is damn near perfect if you ask me.

[JayM]

that actually makes scence

But that doesn't.

Now that's signature material right there.

[Gibboniser]

Oh children children, when will will we learn to get along, and you can't beat CJ falling hundreds of feet shouting I hate Gravity!

[chitoryu12]

I think it is Niko because he is god awful imo i think he is a boring hipocrit and while playing he hardly talks and is never happy also in missions he dosen`t like to kill people but yet while you roam around you can kill as many people as you like with out remorse.

 

i know R* wanted to make this realistic but jeez they should of made Niko cheer the f*ck up.

So, you think the game would be less boring if it was like Scarface where Niko would refuse to shoot any innocents if you point a gun at them, and his car magically never kills them?

[Jaytow]

I think it is Niko because he is god awful imo i think he is a boring hipocrit and while playing he hardly talks and is never happy also in missions he dosen`t like to kill people but yet while you roam around you can kill as many people as you like with out remorse.

 

i know R* wanted to make this realistic but jeez they should of made Niko cheer the f*ck up.

So, you think the game would be less boring if it was like Scarface where Niko would refuse to shoot any innocents if you point a gun at them, and his car magically never kills them?

... The whole point of this thread is wanting the character to change, not the game. In every GTA the character needs a certain mentality, Vic vance and Niko lack it, the story was so boring.. it doesnt feel like a GTA story.. the first times I played III, vice and san andreas just felt so much better than when I played GTA IV. Even if Niko was par with other GTA characters the story is still boring.. I keep saying this but GTA IV would have worked if it werent GTA.

 

 

[Horatio Humboldt]

 

I keep saying this but GTA IV would have worked if it werent GTA.

 

You're not the first person to claim this and I really don't understand it. It either works or it doesn't. In my opinion , it works and is VERY GTA.

[burritos]

Shut up sugar tits. That was awfull.

Aww im sorry i didn`t mean to affend your hairy Boy friend.

that was lame