aidan87 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Why put it on PC? The graphics will suck frame-rates will suffer X360 and PS3 versions never hit over 30 FPS. And PC hardware is 3 years ahead of consoles' one. AT WORST the graphics will be the same as console one. Don't feed the troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer2359 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Why put it on PC? The graphics will suck frame-rates will suffer X360 and PS3 versions never hit over 30 FPS. And PC hardware is 3 years ahead of consoles' one. AT WORST the graphics will be the same as console one. don't worry mcfc probably doesn't even know what a video card is LOL and the reason why he is trynna ruin this thread is because under his name it says punk-ass bitch and he is the 3rd word out of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCFC Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Why put it on PC? The graphics will suck frame-rates will suffer X360 and PS3 versions never hit over 30 FPS. And PC hardware is 3 years ahead of consoles' one. AT WORST the graphics will be the same as console one. 360 can get 34 FPS [rounded down to nearest .0] -----| Official tests conducted by Eurogamer PS3 can get 29 FPS [rounded up to nearest .0] -----| Official tests conducted by Eurogamer PC will top 4-5 fps i think... And why do you think PC hardware is 3 years ahead of consoles? ... BECAUSE CONSOLES WERE RELEASED THREE YEARS AGO!!! DERRR!! HAHAHHAHAH.. PC version will just be a port Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer2359 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 (edited) Why put it on PC? The graphics will suck frame-rates will suffer X360 and PS3 versions never hit over 30 FPS. And PC hardware is 3 years ahead of consoles' one. AT WORST the graphics will be the same as console one. 360 can get 34 FPS [rounded down to nearest .0] -----| Official tests conducted by Eurogamer PS3 can get 29 FPS [rounded up to nearest .0] -----| Official tests conducted by Eurogamer PC will top 4-5 fps i think... And why do you think PC hardware is 3 years ahead of consoles? ... BECAUSE CONSOLES WERE RELEASED THREE YEARS AGO!!! DERRR!! HAHAHHAHAH.. PC version will just be a port Uhhh PC can top easily above 200fps if you have the right hardware which leaves 360/ps3 out in the desert getting owned by pc. Pc games do not lag with proper hardware and we are 3 years ahead of 360/ps3 so we will be getting wayyyyyyy better framerates than console players. You are just mad because it's coming to pc well too bad for you Edited August 15, 2008 by flyer2359 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelly Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Don't feed the troll. How hard can it be? This is the second time I've had to post in here to stop people from replying to blatant trolls. You're just helping their cause. They want to bait you into replying to their mindless drivel and derail the thread, and you're helping them. Please think before you post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Come on guys ignore him. He has been justly banned so lets get back to discussing why the PC is the best platform for GTA 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhatz Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Come on guys ignore him. He has been justly banned so lets get back to discussing why the PC is the best platform for GTA 4. this topic should get locked in the beginning and serve as black on white(white on blue) declaration of truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_to_view Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 The PC is the best for this type of game. The handling is just A+. You have the best of both worlds. If you like the keyboard and mouse for easy use its there, if you like to play with a controller like a console, you have that too. But the keyboard and mouse gets the for me. The FPS on a pc is much faster on the PC, thats why the console version is normally known as a down-graded version. Before the multiplayer on GTAIV, there was no multiplayer but then we got SA-MP add-ons mod which can't be done on the console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xygtaxy Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Actually The PC GTA versions are the worst to play because of PC controls, but when you have a controller it's ok but it's a game ment for consoles. But the pc versions can look better if your pc is good. And yes mods. So GTA 4 on PC will be better but like I said it's more of a console game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 (edited) Actually The PC GTA versions are the worst to play because of PC controls, but when you have a controller it's ok but it's a game ment for consoles.But the pc versions can look better if your pc is good. And yes mods. So GTA 4 on PC will be better but like I said it's more of a console game. That is a matter of opinion, I actually find playing GTA 4 with a joypad a retarded and frustrating experience. The mouse and keyboard is ideally suited for this kind of game because of the aiming aspect of GTA 4. However it is of course personal preference, but hey you have the choice on the PC, YOU DON'T on the console. I just need to look at the fragfx thread and look at all the joypad owners bitching and whining about fragfx users, to KNOW that the mouse and keyboard is a better control system for this game. Now please tell me why GTA is a "game meant for consoles", I mean it started out on the PC, it was a PC franchise before Sony stepped in and shoved a shed load of cash under Rockstars nose. It has also been proven that the PC userbase is a much more MATURE and adult population which is what the GTA franchise is targetting. So I do not understand why you think this game is "suited" to consoles. I will of course agree the consoles have held back the GTA franchise and it could have been so much BETTER on the PC if they had developed it for the PC. In an ideal world we would see GTA developed on the PC and ported to consoles, that would show you which platform best suits GTA. Instead we have to make do with the console port limitations. Thankfully the PC can remove some of these limitations because of it's raw power but the PC version will always be held back thanks to the consoles. Edited August 16, 2008 by CharmingCharlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_Godfather Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Of course you're right, Charlie. When you boil it all down, it comes done to freedom, choices, and control. It can be as great or weak as you want it to be. Assuming your machine meets the minimum requirements (assuming you're on a tight budget), it should never be worse than the console version. At best, it will look better than anything that will be seen on a console in the next 7-10 years at least (Top-end CPU, 8GB GDDR3 ram, Nvidia GTX 280s in SLI, etc. running it in 2560x1600 res [30" widescreen], maxed everything)! I should say that you will NEVER see on the console, because being able to improve the way GTA IV runs or looks will NEVER be an option, especially considering how MS and Sony are not fond of making their toys backwards compatible. If the PC platform got get a fair shake with GTA, I think we'd see a lot of converts. I'm talking about NO delay, SAME marketing budget, NO bad mouthing the PC, NO embargo on PC talk, proper reporting of sales numbers, equal coverage by the gaming press, etc. The added upside is that kids would be encouraged to exercise their brains a little more and it would teach them a thing or two about computing. Much more useful than anything that could learned from a dopey console. Perhaps then they wouldn't be so ignorant when talking about game platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Exactly GTA_Godfather if the PC was treated on the same level as the consoles then the consoles wouldn't stand a chance. This is why Sony and MS have to throw their money around and keep things off the PC as long as possible. I like to think gamers want to experience their hobby at it's finest and that can only be done on the PC. This is the thing that bugs me though when I see someone go "oh GTA is a console game". Well as far as I am aware a console is a "cut down" PC built with the cheapest parts they can get to keep the cost down. So if a game is a "console" game that must mean it is automatically a PC game. The fact of the matter is time and time again the PC has PROVED it is the superior format for playing GTA or any other game for that matter. There is a reason why I don't play with my 360 anymore. It's because playing games on the PC is BETTER. Let me tell you this, if I had a PC that was playing games at the same quality as the 360 I would have upgraded it LONG ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Of course you're right, Charlie. If the PC platform got get a fair shake with GTA, I think we'd see a lot of converts. Of course it would, i remember having a similar line of conversation in the GTA IV for PC ? thread M$ wants to keep gaming focus on the consoles right now, as does $ony N!ntendo because they all want their consoles to sell. If people rediscovered how good PC gaming is then it would be 2000 all over again, its why the ports of their games are kept under such low profile and reviews lean towards the console iterations because of market pressure generated by the fanboi's and company marketing. If you notice most PC ports of popular console games score lower then the console version just because they are on PC. IGN even went so far as to rate GoW for Windows lower because "New content doesnt fit" so their essentially complaining for getting something for nothing. Inexcusable ass licking if you ask me. Back on topic. PC is the best platform for GTA:IV because it allows the game to fully operate. Visuals, Controls and sound is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikothetheBellic Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 (edited) PC will top 4-5 fps i think... PC version will just be a port This is the most hillarious of all the posts I've ever ever seen on GTA forums. Its so bad I don't even wanna comment on the fps part of it(cause man do i have to be a noob to say something like that or what) As for it just being a port. Always keep in mind you console junkies... GTA is a truly and originally PC game... any other versions are just ports!! Remember london? or GTA1? eh EDIT: Would just like to add... IV runs on a pc with a 360 emulator with about 16 fps... lol take that... the entire stupid console can be EMULATED on the mighty PC!! Edited August 16, 2008 by NikothetheBellic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak2121 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 PC will top 4-5 fps i think... PC version will just be a port This is the most hillarious of all the posts I've ever ever seen on GTA forums. Its so bad I don't even wanna comment on the fps part of it(cause man do i have to be a noob to say something like that or what) As for it just being a port. Always keep in mind you console junkies... GTA is a truly and originally PC game... any other versions are just ports!! Remember london? or GTA1? eh EDIT: Would just like to add... IV runs on a pc with a 360 emulator with about 16 fps... lol take that... the entire stupid console can be EMULATED on the mighty PC!! There are 360 emulators now?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matija442IsBack Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 PC will top 4-5 fps i think... PC version will just be a port This is the most hillarious of all the posts I've ever ever seen on GTA forums. Its so bad I don't even wanna comment on the fps part of it(cause man do i have to be a noob to say something like that or what) As for it just being a port. Always keep in mind you console junkies... GTA is a truly and originally PC game... any other versions are just ports!! Remember london? or GTA1? eh EDIT: Would just like to add... IV runs on a pc with a 360 emulator with about 16 fps... lol take that... the entire stupid console can be EMULATED on the mighty PC!! YO!!!DUDE!!! did you just say that GTA IV can be emulated on the PC????umm afaik there are no emulators for xbox360 and ps3.....but yea that 4-5 fps is hilarious...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LV] Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 better graphic,higher and more steady fps,higher resolution,more convenient mouse+key board control(they are suitable for shooting game),faster loading,various modding...... GTA was made for console therefore it should have stayed with the console but no you f*ckers had to bitch about wanting a PC version just so you can have your dumbf*ck mods. I mean what im about to say I HOPE AL LYOUR PC'S EXPLODE WHEN YOU INSERT GTA. Cmon if u dont like PC then just dont come in PC Chat... U are realy jelaouse coz we get better grphix, framrate and cuz ur PS3 sux anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt .45 killer Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 hopefully the act will be together and GTA V will by a PC first console second game, or they could do the unthinkable and make it for BOTH at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCLASS Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 PS3 was a good taster of what the game is - whenver I get a decent PC, il enjoy it all the more. Just need Flashpoint 2 - and il never leave me desk !....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhatz Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Actually The PC GTA versions are the worst to play because of PC controls, but when you have a controller it's ok but it's a game ment for consoles.But the pc versions can look better if your pc is good. And yes mods. So GTA 4 on PC will be better but like I said it's more of a console game. the fact that consoles are meant for games doesn't mean a game is meant for consoles. It may be controllers,like wii with it's wiimoote. which is absolute nonsense with TPS/driving which is GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_Godfather Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 If people rediscovered how good PC gaming is then it would be 2000 all over again, its why the ports of their games are kept under such low profile and reviews lean towards the console iterations because of market pressure generated by the fanboi's and company marketing. If you notice most PC ports of popular console games score lower then the console version just because they are on PC. IGN even went so far as to rate GoW for Windows lower because "New content doesnt fit" so their essentially complaining for getting something for nothing. Inexcusable ass licking if you ask me. Back on topic. PC is the best platform for GTA:IV because it allows the game to fully operate. Visuals, Controls and sound is all [email protected], you're so right about the gaming press. They're almost worthless anymore. You'd think they would have some higher standards, but the way they write they're not much better than the console fanboys on here. Charlie, you bring up a good point about the more mature PC audience. I'd like to add that games like this that are obviously developed to push console hardware to their limits and it's also obvious when they reach that limit when you see frame rates dropping like a rock, disappearing bullet holes, poor controls, etc. The issues have been duly chronicled. They spend so much in resources doing their best to make it work, but it's clear it's being held back. Only in November will we see GTA IV with the gloves off (somewhat...depending on what R* "unlocks" and based on that fact the the console was the LEAD platform, not the PC). This is where consoles fail. They are pretending to be replacements for the PC, which they will never be. The consoles sweet spot is where the Nintendo Wii is (casual games if you will). It doesn't try to be something it's not. Consoles should stick to games like Super Mario Cart and leave the serious stuff to the PCs. Just last month in North America the Wii sold 555k units vs. the PS3 and X360's 224k and 221k units respectively. It's been like this the Wii hit the shelves back in November 2006. This is evidence enough that they have a successful console formula. I think number of controls is another area where GTA falls flat with the consoles. You can only have limited number of buttons assigned to tasks with the consoles' gamepad. Consequently, the PC version can be as good as these gamepads allow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkapeGote Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I have to give Nintendo credit. the Wii is the little console that could. I bought one for my daighter st Christmas, I love the damn thing. I admit the graphics are not the best of the bunhc, but it is the on real "Next Gen" system. The control scheme was a great idea, and I think Nintendo deserves alot of respect for creating such a pop culture phenom. I wonder what they will do next?. Skape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicity² Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I love the Wii. When I'm not playing more serious games like Crysis or Half-Life 2, it's nice to play Mario Kart Wii or Zelda. The Wii is the only real "next-gen" console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalkertr Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I just read this topic and i saw so many Console fan fags crying about PC version ... Why are you doing this ? Did you bored playing without mod , under 25 fps , no AA GTA IV ? lol this is so immature w/e GTA IV PC will rock i just know it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shat_kat Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Hi, just my opinion, but i remember waiting for gta3 to be released for pc, ive always been a pc gamer, well amiga then pc gamer. When gta3 was released for pc, it was a major funk up, i remember reading these forums where almost every post was a complaint at the lazy coding and stupidly low frame rates on high end systems for the time. Then some people released d3d hacks and an opengl mod (i think it was anyhow) to fix rockstars game, as the patch they released was to fix a bug that not many people were suffering from. Anyhow it was thanks to those 2 hacks/mods that i actually got to play gta3, but i took it back, then when i found out about these hacks around 3 months later, i re-purchased it. Vice city and san an didn't seem to suffer from these problems, but they also had their own probs. Im not just holding any faith in rockstar producing an amazing port, hopefully il be proven wrong... Anyway, dont mean to be a sh*tter, im hoping for a good gta port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NecroViolator Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Im thinking... They had tons of people working on this game... From what Ive heard somewhere over 1000 peeps... I think they made a copy of GTA IV ON the PC and didnt port anything at all... This is what Im hopeing... IF they didnt port and made the game engine on the PC then this game will run extremly smooth and grand for us PC users... This is what Im hopeing for... PC RULES !!!... Amiga as well...he he... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackmackg Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 you people talk about consoles like they are a new thing, when really there been consoles along with pc's sense both of there beginnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shat_kat Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Haha, yes amiga does rule aswell haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matija442IsBack Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 you people talk about consoles like they are a new thing, when really there been consoles along with pc's sense both of there beginnings. Ummmm not really....first computer game was in the 1950 as far as i know while first arcades and consoles appeared in the 70's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shat_kat Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Necroviolator, yea i think a lot of people would like to see rockstar have built the pc version from the ground up, instead of doing a port, it would be nice if they put as much attention on the pc market as they do with consoles, but i dont think this is the case =[. After what happened with me and a lot of people who bought gta3 for pc when it came out put a damper on my opinion of rockstar, i think they make awesome games, but they seem to mainly be after the console market primarily, pc secondary. I was just suprised when i had a pc X amount of times faster than a ps2 and yet gta3 ran as if the hardware in my pc was sub ps2 standard... Im being pessimistic now, because with vc and sa, it was the same engine, so they ironed out most of the bugs. But this is the rage engine, which to my knowledge hasn't been thoroughly play tested on pc's, makes me a tad nervous to think we might have a repeat of 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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