Question for those w/ issues about lack of things

[mr_bungle]

Firetruck/paramedic/taxi (Ok you didn't use them, some people did)

 

There are Taxi missions? At the start Roman rung me and said I could do jobs for him etc..

[Tony Mozzarelli 80]

Firetruck/paramedic/taxi (Ok you didn't use them, some people did)

 

There are Taxi missions? At the start Roman rung me and said I could do jobs for him etc..

Yeah but they are limited. I no longer have the option to do them.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Whenever I play IV I don't even think about the stuff in the older games.

 

People honestly need to start looking at IV on its own, instead of constantly comparing it to the old GTAs. Yeah, yeah I know they "existed", but IMO IV is a game by itself, with the potential of future titles adding onto what it has layed out.

 

Sure I miss some of the things in the older GTAs, but if I feel nostalgic there's no stopping me from putting in my copies of GTA III, VC, SA, LCS and VCS in my PS2 is there?

 

GTA IV is still a fun game, in its own way. Well I think it is.

Edited August 11, 2008 by Miamivicecity

[Tony Mozzarelli 80]

Whenever I play IV I don't even think about the stuff in the older games.

 

People honestly need to start looking at IV on its own, instead of constantly comparing it to the old GTAs.

 

Sure I miss some of the things in the older GTAs, but if I feel nostalgic there's no stopping me from putting in my copies of GTA III, VC, SA, LCS and VCS in my PS2 is there?

 

GTA IV is still a fun game, in its own way. Well I think it is.

I agree it is still fun, but it's still notable for what it doesn't offer. I appreciate that it's a different game, but it still feels largely empty, and a lot of space is dead. Don't get me wrong, i still find it fun, and i still play it, but it could have ... no should have, been so much better

[NinjaJones]

 

Bouncin' a dune buggy and a monster truck, and quad around the countryside. Air raid on Area 69, dive bombing busy intersections. Jet packin' to Las Venturas, bicycling, base jumping off a mountain, hot coffee, organized gangs, the list goes on and on like a rollin' stone.

And this adds replay value how exactly? GTA haters say it over and over but now i'll use it..."once you've done it once you've done it all" sure I did all that stuff you mentioned but once I did it a few times it got old. In GTAIV euphoria makes everything different. In San Andreas you shot one ped and then you shot another and they both died the same way. In GTAIV you shoot a gangster in the foot and he hobbles over and starts a fight with you. You can then fight him or call the cops and get him arrested. One thing that's fun is baining out of a helicopter on the main roads in algonquin. In San Andreas CJ would just fall straight down or parachute. In IV you bounce off cars, hit buildings/peds/decorations all while your pilotless helicopter is sliding through the traffic running things down and causing explosions! In San Andreas once you've killed one ped you've killed them all...in IV each one is different! The same goes for car crashes, stunts, bails, shootouts, explosions, etc. It's different every time! I spent 3 hours with a friend of mine just bailing out of the same helicopter on the same road in almost the same place but it was wildl different every time and never got old!

 

 

Stadium events

Marathons

Checkpoint races

Turf Wars

Many fun vehicles

Many fun weapons

Countryside

Firetruck/paramedic/taxi (Ok you didn't use them, some people did)

 

Maybe i'm just weird but I just simply can't wrap my head around this! I found all of that so boring and annoying in San Andreas. That's why I have never gotten 100% in a GTA. I got to 88% in SA but it was out of boredom and not actual fun. I did the taxi missions, the stadium races, the marathons but only to get 100%. It was more addicting than fun in retrospect. I just do the missions so everything is open and avaliable throughout the map. I know this is just my opinion and i'm not dissing yours or anything. I'm just saying is all...I don't get it.

Edited August 11, 2008 by fishing4monkeys

[Tony Mozzarelli 80]

Ok but wouldn't you have preffered it if they replaced them all with something else, rather than just axe everything?

[CarnageRacing00]

Ok but wouldn't you have preffered it if they replaced them all with something else, rather than just axe everything?

But they did replace it with other things, it's just that everything is less structured. You really have you use your own imagination this time around.

 

For example... go on a robbery spree. Visit a [email protected] Internet Cafe, rob it, then move on to a Modo, rob it as well, so on and so forth. See how much money you can make, or how many stores you can rob before you finally get caught/killed by the police, without saving and without replenishing your health, also without the use of heavy weapons - just a pistol and a baseball bat/knife.

 

That provides hours of game play right there.

 

How about making up your own scenario for stealing bonus cars for Stevie? See that Patriot being driven by the gang members? Jack it and get it to Stevie's garage. No different than any other car theft mission.

 

Starting gun fights with the gangs?

 

Clock tower sniper?

 

Bar fights?

 

Robbing taxi drivers then stabbing them to death? (wait...)

 

There is plenty to do in the game, the difference is that Rockstar didn't script particular events for you to take place in, instead they let you experience the world they've created on your own which is a much better way of doing it... problem is, people just lack imagination these days, what with toys that are all battery operated now and cartoons that are half a step away from causing brain hemorrhages.

[Tony Mozzarelli 80]

We could do all that stuff before, and no matter how vivid my imagination is, i just can't find dipping into the till at the [email protected] cafe fun, especiially not for hours, there's just no way you're going to get caught. All this other stuff is just incidental stuff that you can do, and you could do in all the old games. It's not about not having a good imagination, it's the fact that they haven't put enough content in the game to facilitate your imagination. I have no idea what toys or cartoons are into these days, nor is it relevant to me

[motorforum]

In SA, I personally modded many cars and bought/changed clothes whilst not doing missions. It fleshes it out and it does get boring only killing/crashing/fighting.

[Cr4z3y]

GTAIV is a fun game no doubt. But people want features, features, and guess what? More features.

[grapetrap]

OK....so I dug out my old copy of Vice City. WTF...I thought that it was running on a NES. Choppy and flat. No variety in landscape. Crappy car models. I cannot belive that this used to be State of the Art back when it came out. I sold my SA a long time ago so I could not play that one again. I even tried to go rent it at my local game shop and they did not have a copy (not rented....they don't have a rental copy, oh well).

 

Anyway shut it off and had to put GTA4 back in right away, quickly go into MP play. I was lucky enough to get in a Free Mode with friendly fire turned off....what a blast. As soon as people figued out they could not just snipe it turned into a whole new thing. Blowing up parked cars to blast the other guy, crashing them into flaming wrecks in the hopes that they would catch on fire. We even had a longest jump contest and other creative and fun ways to kill time in LC.

 

My point is is that mayby R* knew what they had when they created this world. Maybe R* though their fans were imaginative enough to find their own things to do. Generate new ideas for there end game fun. Maybe as I have said befor R* is counting on DLC to spice things up for those who need to be told how to play the game.

 

Anyway, without trying to be a a**h*le here maybe people just need to start making their own fun. There is an old saying the goes somthing like...Intelligent people are never bored....

 

 

[Jimbo85]

IMO the people who hate GTAIV are people either without Multiplayer or people who like the Sims or guys too ashamed to admit they want to be stylists and makeup artists.

 

The first GTA was wicked... And I can't remember being able to change the little mans clothes and hairstyles. I can't even remember if there were any features except for killing Haricrishnas and stealing cars, still it was the best game i had EVER played at the time.

 

 

 

 

[Tony Mozzarelli 80]

Look if i want to use my intelligence to keep me amused, i will do so for f*cking gratis. I pay for a video game in order for my imagination to be enhanced. Sure i can still have fun with the game. But it's not as fun as it would be if they gave us plenty of things to do, this is why games traditionally progress. This is the reason you were unable to enjoy Vice City, because the technology was not up to date. You could have imagined that the graphics were pretty and shiny couldn't you?

But you have become acustomed to better. If the next game cuts even more content? will this please you further? Will you be sitting there trying to stretch yourself to find fun things to do, all the while basking in the intelligence you think you possess?

 

Yes probably.. but i have another saying for you. 'Simple things please simple minds'

[grapetrap]

 

Look if i want to use my intelligence to keep me amused, i will do so for f*cking gratis. I pay for a video game in order for my imagination to be enhanced. Sure i can still have fun with the game. But it's not as fun as it would be if they gave us plenty of things to do, this is why games traditionally progress. This is the reason you were unable to enjoy Vice City, because the technology was not up to date. You could have imagined that the graphics were pretty and shiny couldn't you?

But you have become acustomed to better. If the next game cuts even more content? will this please you further? Will you be sitting there trying to stretch yourself to find fun things to do, all the while basking in the intelligence you think you possess?

 

Yes probably.. but i have another saying for you. 'Simple things please simple minds'

Very nice. I am always afraid that I will get the old "gtfo noob" or "go DIAF". You even bested me on the "old saying".... You sir..../bow

 

Crap, I am gonna have to wait to get home from work to give you a post back that you deserve.

 

And here is an old saying for you right now.

 

K.I.S.S - Keep It Simple Stupid. (just a saying ...not name calling or anything)

 

 

[Tony Mozzarelli 80]

Look if i want to use my intelligence to keep me amused, i will do so for f*cking gratis. I pay for a video game in order for my imagination to be enhanced. Sure i can still have fun with the game. But it's not as fun as it would be if they gave us plenty of things to do, this is why games traditionally progress. This is the reason you were unable to enjoy Vice City, because the technology was not up to date. You could have imagined that the graphics were pretty and shiny couldn't you?

But you have become acustomed to better. If the next game cuts even more content? will this please you further? Will you be sitting there trying to stretch yourself to find fun things to do, all the while basking in the intelligence you think you possess?

 

Yes probably.. but i have another saying for you. 'Simple things please simple minds'

Very nice. I am always afraid that I will get the old "gtfo noob" or "go DIAF". You even bested me on the "old saying".... You sir..../bow

 

Crap, I am gonna have to wait to get home from work to give you a post back that you deserve.

 

And here is an old saying for you right now.

 

K.I.S.S - Keep It Simple Stupid. (just a saying ...not name calling or anything)

DIAF? i'm not familiar with that one?

[Algonquin Assassin]

 

IMO the people who hate GTAIV are people either without Multiplayer or people who like the Sims or guys too ashamed to admit they want to be stylists and makeup artists.

 

The first GTA was wicked... And I can't remember being able to change the little mans clothes and hairstyles. I can't even remember if there were any features except for killing Haricrishnas and stealing cars, still it was the best game i had EVER played at the time.

Just before IV came out I re-bought GTA 1, and GTA II. Despite those two games being old, they were still fun to play. I have many fond memories of those two back in 1998/1999. That's before features starting spoiling people.

 

I'm sorry, but to me a great game is more then the features it offers. I've always seen them as a bonus really.

 

Actually some of the best games I've ever played are usually the ones that are quite simple in design, and don't have much in game content at all. Yet they're still fun. GTA IV is one of those.

[mmm chocolate]

I must admit...in SAN ANDREAS, one of the funnest things to do (for me) was to get 5 stars and try to make it to the building in downtown Los Santos with the parachute on top of it...get to the top of the building, run straight at the parachute and take a running jump off the edge.

 

Or maybe shoot down a few helicopters before grabbing the parachute.

 

..so yeah...I'll admit there's a few things I miss.

 

But not much.

 

ACTUALLY...there's one more thing..in SAN ANDREAS, when you run out of money in the casinos..and the mob chases you down and takes you out...THAT is one thing they could've incorporated in GTA 4.

 

Random scenarios like that...where you have to watch your back....something to that nature.