mcstupidfun Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 For those who complain about the replay value, lack of things, etc., how did those things add to replay value for you and what are you doing without them? On GTA, after I beat it, I drive around, cause havoc, and do a few task or take people out. VC, SA, and IV have been the same thing for me when I wasn't doing missions so I don't understand what all people are complaining about or how no tattoos, or less clothing makes the game worth not playing anymore. So what all did you do in past games that made things so fun for you and how does the 'lack' of them make GTA 4 suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockteur Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Uhh.... Jetpack, duel guns, not another one of these topics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcstupidfun Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Uhh.... Jetpack, duel guns, not another one of these topics... The question is how did those add to the game for you. Yes they were there and yes I used them, but I wouldn't have cared or noticed if they weren't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockteur Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Murder..... variety of murder. This game is a murder simulator, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_bungle Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Murder..... variety of murder. This game is a murder simulator, period. More of a Crime Simulator... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyessorc Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 For those who complain about the replay value, lack of things, etc., how did those things add to replay value for you and what are you doing without them? On GTA, after I beat it, I drive around, cause havoc, and do a few task or take people out. VC, SA, and IV have been the same thing for me when I wasn't doing missions so I don't understand what all people are complaining about or how no tattoos, or less clothing makes the game worth not playing anymore. So what all did you do in past games that made things so fun for you and how does the 'lack' of them make GTA 4 suck? Excellent points. Yes, there were things (different weapons, dual wield, etc.), but when I think back to SA, VC, etc., those weren't the things that enhanced. I ended up doing the same I am doing now for replay on IV, however I DID NOT have the online, which I think is very fun on IV. To each their own. I understand they could have more varied stuff to do though so I see both sides. Your post brings up a good point, though, in that the things people are arguing for were not what caused "massive replay" like people are attesting to. I am hard pressed to see how tattoos, the marathon, etc. caused endlesss hours of replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) In every GTA the way I have fun is causing havoc. That's what I've been doing for 10 years. It never gets old. IV does it the best IMO, and coupled with Euphoria, it makes it much more enjoyable. Just before I was driving a Comet around, and jumping out of it, to see all the different ways Niko can get hurt, and last night I had an awesome shootout with the cops, at one of the Clukin' Bells. Plus running over peds is so funny. Stuff like this is fun to me. I don't really need features at all to be honest. I mean yeah I use them when I'm desperate to enjoy myself, but most of the time I just try to be creative as possible. Edited August 10, 2008 by Miamivicecity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopHat01 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 IV has a more 'clean' feeling more me, a LOT less animated/cartoon version, and when I drive around or run someone over or even look at a car it all seems so realistic, I feel like I'm doing it in R/L. Coupled with the minimalistic HUD, the game just feels stunning. Aside from that, after you finish the story, or even beat it, you're left with Multiplayer, which is countless hours of fun, free roaming around, jumping off buildings, driving cars off buildings, creative suicides, running over pedestrians, etc. it all adds up. IV feels/seems extremely real for me...then again, I'm fairly new to the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Theft Columbo Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Bouncin' a dune buggy and a monster truck, and quad around the countryside. Air raid on Area 69, dive bombing busy intersections. Jet packin' to Las Venturas, bicycling, base jumping off a mountain, hot coffee, organized gangs, the list goes on and on like a rollin' stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcstupidfun Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Bouncin' a dune buggy and a monster truck, and quad around the countryside. Air raid on Area 69, dive bombing busy intersections. Jet packin' to Las Venturas, bicycling, base jumping off a mountain, hot coffee, organized gangs, the list goes on and on like a rollin' stone. Do you not like VC or III either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machida Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Murder..... variety of murder. This game is a murder simulator, period. More of a Crime Simulator... Don't let Jack Thompson see daft comments like this. The previous features in GTA games never gave them any more playability than IV, for me. If anything IV has more playbility because of the game's storyline and the numerous ways you could carry out the same mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 For those who complain about the replay value, lack of things, etc., how did those things add to replay value for you and what are you doing without them? On GTA, after I beat it, I drive around, cause havoc, and do a few task or take people out. VC, SA, and IV have been the same thing for me when I wasn't doing missions so I don't understand what all people are complaining about or how no tattoos, or less clothing makes the game worth not playing anymore. So what all did you do in past games that made things so fun for you and how does the 'lack' of them make GTA 4 suck? Ok i think i see what you're trying to say. What made the old games so fun for us that you can't do in IV? Well firstly your question is to those who find it lacking, and later goes on to presume that those same people must think it sucks. Allow me to clear up this matter, I find the game lacking, but it does not, by any stretch of the imagination, suck. What the old games provided was more variety. There was lots to do such as the stadium missions, bike races, checkpoint races, driving schools, paramedics, vigilante, i really can't be bothered to list them all as i'm sure you already know what was in there. So what you're saying is, generally we all just went killing. Well even if we assume you're right about that, the fact that the old games didn't provide something is no good reason for this 'next gen' leap not to provide it. let us not forget that this game was four years in the making. It was natural to assume that we would be getting at least as much as we used to. I was expecting, no dead space, tons of interactivity, lots of crime to commit. Sure i still enjoy driving around killing everybody i see, but it is time that GTA moved above and beyond that, but instead it takes a step backwards...... Yeah i know detailed city, sweet graphics and physics. This is all very welcome indeed, but when they have not advanced the actual game any, then i find myself disappointed. I now lack purpose in the game and i no longer have the variety of acttivities i once had in order to break up the play like the old games offered. Of course i can't answer for anyone else, but i hope that helps answer your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 What the old games provided was more variety. There was lots to do such as the stadium missions, bike races, checkpoint races, driving schools, paramedics, vigilante, i really can't be bothered to list them all as i'm sure you already know what was in there. Yeah, but GTA IV still has Assassination missions (One of my favourites that was in VC), taxi missions, vigilante, most wanted, races, Brucie's cars, Stevie's cars, the drug missions, and random character missions. Really there's no excuse for not being to find something to do while off main story missions. It's all there, but I believe some people don't try very hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 What the old games provided was more variety. There was lots to do such as the stadium missions, bike races, checkpoint races, driving schools, paramedics, vigilante, i really can't be bothered to list them all as i'm sure you already know what was in there. Yeah, but GTA IV still has Assassination missions (One of my favourites that was in VC), taxi missions, vigilante, most wanted, races, Brucie's cars, Stevie's cars, the drug missions, and random character missions. Really there's no excuse for not being to find something to do while off main story missions. It's all there, but I believe some people don't try very hard. But once you've finished the game you can't do any of that except vigilante, which is fine, and Brucies races which are so easy you may as well not bother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 But once you've finished the game you can't do any of that except vigilante, which is fine, and Brucies races which are so easy you may as well not bother Fair enough, but what's the point in doing the same activity over, and over again after you've finished the game? That's why I like the side missions in IV. They get cut off before they become tedious, and a chore to do. Taxi, paramedic, pizzaboy, firetruck missions etc in past renditions were fun for the first few times, but then they felt like a chore to do. Sometimes I would only do them, because I was short on cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 But there were so many in the last game that they didn't get too tedious, because there was plenty of other things to do with it, so it broke the game up a bit. But even so, it doesn't mean that IV couldn't have provided something better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasta Jacob Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I just play online Free Roam or a few games of DM or TDM. Never gets boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) But even so, it doesn't mean that IV couldn't have provided something better Online multiplayer? I've only ever used it once, but if I started using it (If PSN wasn't so gay lol) it would increase playing time even more. As you can see though, I'm a fairly easy person to please. I can only speak for myself, but honestly what is in GTA IV atm is enough to keep me occupied. If other people need alot on their table to keep them amused, each to their own I guess. Edited August 10, 2008 by Miamivicecity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Yeah well i would agree with you on the MP but it's just not quite implemented well enough. It does add to replay value there's no doubt. GTA race mode is excellent and so is Mafiya work. Trouble is you get dis-connected frequently, and just liitle things annoy you like having to get a billion kills to unlock a shiny helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Yeah that's annoying. I've only used free mode. I really want to try the others, but as you say the internet connection is a big problem. I think to get a true online multiplayer experience, we would need the PC version. Speaking of the PC version, I reckon alot of people will get interest back in the game, for stuff like mods you can do to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Oh yeah, undoubtedly the mods and stuff will make it awesome. I just hope my laptop can run it, which it probably can't haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper39 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 This was the first game in the GTA series that I have played and since brought Vice City. I only wish that Niko could buy houses, strip clubs etc. I'm sitting on 1.7 million dollars and can't do anything with it but die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarnageRacing00 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Once I completed San Andreas, I never used the jet pack again (except to get to high roof tops just to sky dive from them). I never went to the barber, never went to get a tattoo, never went to the gym... I just drove around blowing up cars on the highway with satchel charges and watching them fly, racing around the countryside, off roading in farmlands, or get in a plane and try to fly under overpasses. That was it, really. The only things I truly miss from San Andreas are: -A suppressed weapon and the ability to sneak. Seriously, that added a new dimension to the gameplay, even though you would only able to really use it in designated sneaking missions. Take for example the mission in IV where you have to steal the truck from the triads at the fish market. The option to snipe from the room, go balls out rambo and get in a major gun fight, OR sneak in the back and steal the truck, driving out in a hail of gun fire would've been awesome. -Parachute. I still don't know why they took this out. Base jumping in the new Liberty City would be so much fun. Niko was a soldier, he has to have at least some basic knowledge of how to use a parachute... it'd make more sense for him to have that ability than for Carl Johnson, some punk from the ghetto to know how. -Semi Trailers. Maybe they had a problem with the physics of it all, but I think hooking onto a trailer would've been a fun addition to the game. Either that or causing a truck to jack knife on the highway. -...well, that's it, really. I don't miss anything else. Anything else missing from SA has been replaced with something even better, IMO. People always complain that there's just nothing left to do in IV, but really, what EXACTLY are they referring to? Hair cuts? Tattoos? OH MY GOD IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 The fact that there is little to do in IV has very little to do witth any features that were in SA beyond the fact that that was the last game we had and is seen as a benchmark. I mean you say they replaced it all with something better, but they haven't, they've just removed it and replaced it with nothing. Nobody gives a sh*t about haircuts or tattoos, it's just the fact that there's less to do. Despite it being 'next gen', having taken twice as long to develop, it's smaller and there's less content, that's why people are disappointed because they didn't expect that. we all knew the map wouldn't be as big, but nobody knew there would be less to do, i repeat nobody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigTheNoodle Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 In every GTA the way I have fun is causing havoc. That's what I've been doing for 10 years. It never gets old. IV does it the best IMO, and coupled with Euphoria, it makes it much more enjoyable. Just before I was driving a Comet around, and jumping out of it, to see all the different ways Niko can get hurt, and last night I had an awesome shootout with the cops, at one of the Clukin' Bells. Plus running over peds is so funny. Stuff like this is fun to me. I don't really need features at all to be honest. I mean yeah I use them when I'm desperate to enjoy myself, but most of the time I just try to be creative as possible. im curious, what does IMO mean?(you cant be born knowing everything you know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hart Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 In every GTA the way I have fun is causing havoc. That's what I've been doing for 10 years. It never gets old. IV does it the best IMO, and coupled with Euphoria, it makes it much more enjoyable. Just before I was driving a Comet around, and jumping out of it, to see all the different ways Niko can get hurt, and last night I had an awesome shootout with the cops, at one of the Clukin' Bells. Plus running over peds is so funny. Stuff like this is fun to me. I don't really need features at all to be honest. I mean yeah I use them when I'm desperate to enjoy myself, but most of the time I just try to be creative as possible. im curious, what does IMO mean?(you cant be born knowing everything you know) In My Opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarnageRacing00 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 The fact that there is little to do in IV has very little to do witth any features that were in SA beyond the fact that that was the last game we had and is seen as a benchmark. I mean you say they replaced it all with something better, but they haven't, they've just removed it and replaced it with nothing. Nobody gives a sh*t about haircuts or tattoos, it's just the fact that there's less to do. Despite it being 'next gen', having taken twice as long to develop, it's smaller and there's less content, that's why people are disappointed because they didn't expect that. we all knew the map wouldn't be as big, but nobody knew there would be less to do, i repeat nobody. ...what is it missing, then? I've only heard people whine and complain about the missing RPG elements... if we're not talking about hair cuts and tattoos, then besides airplanes, what is really missing? I personally haven't noticed a lack of things to do, other than not having a silenced weapon and not being able to fly the planes. What else is missing? Ambulance/Firetruck missions? Vigilante missions are just the same they've always been, yet people complain about the cops coming after you when you take out a perp... that's a GTA thing, not a IV thing. Ambulance missions? I never played them. Firetruck missions? Yeah, never did those either. The taxi missions are present, if only for a short while... not sure why you can't do them through the entire game, doesn't make any sense... but whatever. So what's missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 There's a many things, i'm sure you've read GTAaddictforever's list by now, but to name a few of the top of my head Stadium events Marathons Checkpoint races Turf Wars Many fun vehicles Many fun weapons Countryside Firetruck/paramedic/taxi (Ok you didn't use them, some people did) There are more but it's all irrelevant anyway. The fact is that there's less to do, despite the fact it's 'next gen'. I can appreciate that graphics and physics are awesome, but besides that the game took a step back As i've said many times though, i couldn't give a sh*t about any of San Andreas' activities specifically, they could have removed them all and i wouldn't have batted an eyelid, provviding they had replaced them with something else, but they haven't. Besides i've rarely heard anyone complain about the RPG elements. What you've actually heard is other people whining at them for wanting Pink mohawks and tattoos, despite the fact that they haven't said that at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcstupidfun Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 As i've said many times though, i couldn't give a sh*t about any of San Andreas' activities specifically, they could have removed them all and i wouldn't have batted an eyelid, provviding they had replaced them with something else, but they haven't. Besides i've rarely heard anyone complain about the RPG elements. What you've actually heard is other people whining at them for wanting Pink mohawks and tattoos, despite the fact that they haven't said that at all Ok, but that sounds like just being there to say they are there, but you don't really care about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 As i've said many times though, i couldn't give a sh*t about any of San Andreas' activities specifically, they could have removed them all and i wouldn't have batted an eyelid, provviding they had replaced them with something else, but they haven't. Besides i've rarely heard anyone complain about the RPG elements. What you've actually heard is other people whining at them for wanting Pink mohawks and tattoos, despite the fact that they haven't said that at all Ok, but that sounds like just being there to say they are there, but you don't really care about them No i just want plenty to do, and removing eveerything without replacing it does not make a game better. Less is not more. I liked some SA features, i disliked others. But the fact is there was variety, and something for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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