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Considering someone has bombed China also, including this, I believe this could be a potential WW3.

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so we can continue tounge.gif

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Lioshenka

Where were we?

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OMG THE THREAD GOT LOCKED WW3!!!!

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Hart

Last post, excluding jallar was Psychs

 

 

There's one sh*tty little pipeline in Russia that's near Georgia...

 

The big pipeline is what everyone is talking about aren't they??

 

 

Thats where we were.

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http://www.reuters.com/news/archive/worldNews?date=today

 

Forked from here. Given that it's a Gen Chat thread it's basically a pile of sh*t. Now that it's here, anyone who can't behave themselves like a normal person while discussing will be shot.

Yeah, There aren't any decent topics in General chat anyway.

 

I think the Bombs in China topic should be moved as well considering it is also covering a major news story.

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We were talking about Georgia being in NATO and Georgian pipelines that Russia wants/not wants/whatever else.

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I will stress again, there weren't any problems before. At least not enough to start a war. Andthis picture proves you wrong anyway.

 

 

Problems have to start from somewhere, why not now? Olympic games are a perfect cover up and the upcoming NATO meeting... It's like an opportunity of a lifetime to Russia (or should I say Putin?)

 

And I really didn't get much about this picture. What I said, I read from the news.

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Hart
We were talking about Georgia being in NATO and Georgian pipelines that Russia wants/not wants/whatever else.

It seems Russia is to the world as Jeremy Clarkson is to Top Gear. POWAHH!!

 

They seriously shouldnt mess with NATO, they're being very clumsy about this "operation"

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http://www.reuters.com/news/archive/worldNews?date=today

 

Forked from here. Given that it's a Gen Chat thread it's basically a pile of sh*t. Now that it's here, anyone who can't behave themselves like a normal person while discussing will be shot.

lol lets gid rid of general chat. It is a pice of sh*t afterall.

 

 

I cant see this topic being any differint, ecept maybe more people will get warnings/bans.

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Typhus
Considering someone has bombed China also, including this, I believe this could be a potential WW3.

I don't think it will be as bad as that. As I said in the other thread, we won't go to war because we're already bogged down. Why would we start fighting on three fronts? And there just isn't the public support for such action.

I mean, the subject of military intervention is already very touchy around here. I heard some soldiers got stabbed by a mob of people calling them "squaddie murderers".

It's just not the right climate for a fresh war. Especially against an enemy that can effectively fight back or even launch counterattacks on our country.

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Lioshenka

http://osinform.ru/foto/7343-zhertvy-obstr...ojj-osetii.html

 

haven't posted photos from Ossetia for a while.

 

Warning for those who doesn't like blood. Many dead people there and flesh. They were killed in the Georgian invasion on 1st of August.

 

More photos from Reuters proved to be fake

http://k.img.com.ua/img/gallery/756/3d75fe...d75e0e27b82.jpg

http://k.img.com.ua/img/gallery/756/e6ba2d...02be1f4447d.jpg

Notice where the "dead" georgian is on both photos. Necrophiles have dragged his 5 meters away, just to make a second picture, it seems.

Edited by ˸øåíüêà

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Hart

 

http://osinform.ru/foto/7343-zhertvy-obstr...ojj-osetii.html

 

haven't posted photos from Ossetia for a while.

 

Warning for those who doesn't like blood. Many dead people there and flesh. They were killed in the Georgian invasion on 1st of August.

 

More photos from Reuters proved to be fake

http://k.img.com.ua/img/gallery/756/3d75fe...d75e0e27b82.jpg

http://k.img.com.ua/img/gallery/756/e6ba2d...02be1f4447d.jpg

Notice where the "dead" georgian is on both photos. Necrophiles have dragged his 5 meters away, just to make a second picture, it seems.

They could have at least used different people, thats just stupid. The first picture made me laugh, the woman.

 

Also, im pretty sure the guy on the ground is alive, so they're not necrophiles either way, if he was dead, they aint f*cking him. Or am I getting words confused?

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Considering someone has bombed China also, including this, I believe this could be a potential WW3.

I don't think it will be as bad as that. As I said in the other thread, we won't go to war because we're already bogged down. Why would we start fighting on three fronts? And there just isn't the public support for such action.

I mean, the subject of military intervention is already very touchy around here. I heard some soldiers got stabbed by a mob of people calling them "squaddie murderers".

It's just not the right climate for a fresh war. Especially against an enemy that can effectively fight back or even launch counterattacks on our country.

I don't think it's a good reason to let Russia do what they want. confused.gif

 

I support the war against Russia in this case!

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Breaking Bohan
http://www.reuters.com/news/archive/worldNews?date=today

 

Forked from here. Given that it's a Gen Chat thread it's basically a pile of sh*t. Now that it's here, anyone who can't behave themselves like a normal person while discussing will be shot.

lol lets gid rid of general chat. It is a pice of sh*t afterall.

 

 

I cant see this topic being any differint, ecept maybe more people will get warnings/bans.

Yes, I'm also somewhat confused ... should the chat become more philosophical now? Assuming it is, I don't understand why Russia wants to kill people ... don't they realize that people don't like to have soldier's swinging vodka-covered balls in their faces! They may fight back, and if the US trained the Georgians better than the Iraqies then they may be able to hold out for a little while ... but Georgia should get ready to grab their ankles - - - really, its only a matter of time if no other parties get involved, no?

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Hart
Considering someone has bombed China also, including this, I believe this could be a potential WW3.

I don't think it will be as bad as that. As I said in the other thread, we won't go to war because we're already bogged down. Why would we start fighting on three fronts? And there just isn't the public support for such action.

I mean, the subject of military intervention is already very touchy around here. I heard some soldiers got stabbed by a mob of people calling them "squaddie murderers".

It's just not the right climate for a fresh war. Especially against an enemy that can effectively fight back or even launch counterattacks on our country.

I don't think it's a good reason to let Russia do what they want. confused.gif

 

I support the war against Russia in this case!

While I dont agree with starting a war, I agree that Russia is in the wrong.

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Lioshenka

 

They could have at least used different people, thats just stupid. The first picture made me laugh, the woman.

 

Also, im pretty sure the guy on the ground is alive, so they're not necrophiles either way, if he was dead, they aint f*cking him. Or am I getting words confused?

You are correct, I used necrophiles word because the guy is supposed to be dead. It is not necessary that necrophile is f*cking dead people colgate.gif its just a person who feels strong sympathy towards them. [/clever guy mode off]

 

We all see that Reuters is trying to show that Georgia was attacked by Russia, and although I have a completely different opinion, I just can not believe that such a big company uses such a bad photographer... I mean why would you post photos in pairs, where you can easily spot the difefrences? There was on esoldir as well, he was features in 4 or 5 photos in completely different locations. (Unless Georgians looks alike to me)

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why didn't the last topic get moved instead of locked? thats how it is always done.oh well, i cant complain, that topic became overly popular too fast. Im sure there will be much more input in this secton of the forums considering how well monitored it is. now every post is even more relevent in this new and improved topic.

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Typhus
Considering someone has bombed China also, including this, I believe this could be a potential WW3.

I don't think it will be as bad as that. As I said in the other thread, we won't go to war because we're already bogged down. Why would we start fighting on three fronts? And there just isn't the public support for such action.

I mean, the subject of military intervention is already very touchy around here. I heard some soldiers got stabbed by a mob of people calling them "squaddie murderers".

It's just not the right climate for a fresh war. Especially against an enemy that can effectively fight back or even launch counterattacks on our country.

I don't think it's a good reason to let Russia do what they want. confused.gif

 

I support the war against Russia in this case!

While I dont agree with starting a war, I agree that Russia is in the wrong.

Even if Russia wins it will still be a defeat. They're picking on a smaller country and that's all anyone will ever see.

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Hart

 

why didn't the last topic get moved instead of locked? thats how it is always done.oh well, i cant complain, that topic became overly popular too fast. Im sure there will be much more input in this secton of the forums considering how well monitored it is. now every post is even more relevent in this new and improved topic.

Because D&D is more civilised than Gen Chat.

 

@ Breaking Bohan: Can we avoid the stereotypes of Russians please? confused.gif

 

EDIT: @ Typhus: Yeah, I suppose you're right, but in terms of least casualtys etc, Russia will win.

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why didn't the last topic get moved instead of locked?

I'm sure the forum moderators will have no problem locking the other news stories which were inappropriately placed in the general chat forum.

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=366749

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=366692

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=365706

 

 

Just to name a few current valid discussions...

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brz59

 

http://osinform.ru/foto/7343-zhertvy-obstr...ojj-osetii.html

 

haven't posted photos from Ossetia for a while.

 

Warning for those who doesn't like blood. Many dead people there and flesh. They were killed in the Georgian invasion on 1st of August.

 

So you are saying, that Georgians shouldn't kill the opponents in a state of war?

 

You always seem to post people killed by Georgian army, but why not post Georgian people killed by Russian military?

 

 

 

E: Seems that some Russian news site claims that Turkish ships are already waiting for the Russian navy...?

I wonder how much truth is in it sigh.gif

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...TF8&sl=ru&tl=en

Edited by brz59

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Considering someone has bombed China also, including this, I believe this could be a potential WW3.

I don't think it will be as bad as that. As I said in the other thread, we won't go to war because we're already bogged down. Why would we start fighting on three fronts? And there just isn't the public support for such action.

I mean, the subject of military intervention is already very touchy around here. I heard some soldiers got stabbed by a mob of people calling them "squaddie murderers".

It's just not the right climate for a fresh war. Especially against an enemy that can effectively fight back or even launch counterattacks on our country.

I don't think it's a good reason to let Russia do what they want. confused.gif

 

I support the war against Russia in this case!

While I dont agree with starting a war, I agree that Russia is in the wrong.

Well Russia started it so nobody would have to start it.

 

The reason why it was moved because general chat is a UNMODERATED area and this is HIGHLY MODERATED area. smile.gif

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Lioshenka

 

http://osinform.ru/foto/7343-zhertvy-obstr...ojj-osetii.html

 

haven't posted photos from Ossetia for a while.

 

Warning for those who doesn't like blood. Many dead people there and flesh. They were killed in the Georgian invasion on 1st of August.

 

So you are saying, that Georgians shouldn't kill the opponents in a state of war?

 

You always seem to post people killed by Georgian army, but why not post Georgian people killed by Russian military?

 

 

 

E: Seems that some Russian news site claims that Turkish ships are already waiting for the Russian navy...?

I wonder how much truth is in it sigh.gif

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...TF8&sl=ru&tl=en

There WAS NOT a war on the 1st of August.

 

And I only posted, pictures, without saying good a bad it is.

Edited by ˸øåíüêà

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jelly
why didn't the last topic get moved instead of locked?

I'm sure the forum moderators will have no problem locking the other news stories which were inappropriately placed in the general chat forum.

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=366749

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=366692

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=365706

 

 

Just to name a few current valid discussions...

This discussion was moved here due to the rampant racism, flamebaiting and off-topic crap occurring in the previous one. Rather than trying to put it back on track I moved it here where there can be no slack. Yeah, it's lazy, I'm tired of dealing with children who can't behave, that's all.

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Hart

 

http://osinform.ru/foto/7343-zhertvy-obstr...ojj-osetii.html

 

haven't posted photos from Ossetia for a while.

 

Warning for those who doesn't like blood. Many dead people there and flesh. They were killed in the Georgian invasion on 1st of August.

 

So you are saying, that Georgians shouldn't kill the opponents in a state of war?

 

You always seem to post people killed by Georgian army, but why not post Georgian people killed by Russian military?

 

 

 

E: Seems that some Russian news site claims that Turkish ships are already waiting for the Russian navy...?

I wonder how much truth is in it sigh.gif

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...TF8&sl=ru&tl=en

Thanks, that was a good, albiet slightly frightening read.

 

 

At the moment, to assess the Russian military, naval forces of Turkey surpass Russia Black Sea fleet by more than 2 times.

Seems like Russia going to have its hands full.

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Breaking Bohan

Maybe Russia thinks they're doing the right thing, even if it looks bad over here due to terrible reporting (CNN). Check out what Putin said:

In a meeting with refugees, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin characterized Georgia's actions as "complete genocide," according to his office's Web site. Putin also said Georgia had effectively lost the right to rule the breakaway province — an indication Moscow could be preparing to fulfill South Ossetians' wish to be absorbed into Russia.

 

The risk of the conflict setting off a wider war also increased Saturday when Russian-supported separatists in another breakaway region, Abkhazia, also targeted Georgian troops by launching air and artillery strikes to drive them out.

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I guess we have no idea if this is really true or not, but maybe some more insight will be available soon. After all doesn't Bush trust Putin? And if its good enough for him it should be good enough for us proles, no?

 

Edit: stopping genocide is a good reason to use military force, generally

Edited by Breaking Bohan

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why didn't the last topic get moved instead of locked?

I'm sure the forum moderators will have no problem locking the other news stories which were inappropriately placed in the general chat forum.

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=366749

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=366692

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=365706

 

 

Just to name a few current valid discussions...

This discussion was moved here due to the rampant racism, flamebaiting and off-topic crap occurring in the previous one. Rather than trying to put it back on track I moved it here where there can be no slack. Yeah, it's lazy, I'm tired of dealing with children who can't behave, that's all.

Fair enough, I was doing my best to stop such nonsense earlier, but unfortunately I was strapped for time.

 

Now for an update:

 

 

Georgia and Russia Nearing All-Out War

GORI, Georgia — The conflict between Russia and the former Soviet republic of Georgia moved toward all-out war on Saturday as Russia prepared to land ground troops on Georgia’s coast and broadened its bombing campaign both within Georgia and in the disputed territory of Abkhazia.

 

The fighting that began when Georgian forces tried to retake the capital of South Ossetia, a pro-Russian region that won de facto autonomy from Georgia in the early 1990s, appeared to be developing into the worst clashes between Russia and a foreign military since the 1980s war in Afghanistan.

 

Georgia’s president, Mikheil Saakashvili, declared that Georgia was in a state of war, ordering government offices to work around the clock, and said that Russia was planning a full-scale invasion of his country...

 

 

The rest of the story is here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/world/eu.../10georgia.html

 

 

Earlier the United States said that they could not risk getting involved in a conflict with Russia, them including many other countries are dependent on Russia. Unless some other NATO country gets militarily involved or if Russia forces opposition to the US we won't have an earth-shattering conflict.

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Maybe Russia thinks they're doing the right thing, even if it looks bad over here due to terrible reporting (CNN). Check out what Putin said:

In a meeting with refugees, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin characterized Georgia's actions as "complete genocide," according to his office's Web site. Putin also said Georgia had effectively lost the right to rule the breakaway province � an indication Moscow could be preparing to fulfill South Ossetians' wish to be absorbed into Russia.

 

The risk of the conflict setting off a wider war also increased Saturday when Russian-supported separatists in another breakaway region, Abkhazia, also targeted Georgian troops by launching air and artillery strikes to drive them out.

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I guess we have no idea if this is really true or not, but maybe some more insight will be available soon. After all doesn't Bush trust Putin? And if its good enough for him it should be good enough for us proles, no?

 

Edit: stopping genocide is a good reason to use military force, generally

But then you believe other possibly terrible reporting.. ;/

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