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Lt. Dan

Guitar Hero: Friend, foe, or fad?

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Lt. Dan

First off I didn't put this in Game chat because there are GH threads and this involves discussing more than just the game.

 

Ever since Guitar Hero came out in 2005, Y-list musicians and anonymous Youtube commenters have been crying foul. "LEARN TO PLAY A REEL GEETAR fa**ot LOLOLOLOLOL" has been the prevailing sentiment.

 

Believe it or not, many people have been inspired by these games to pick up a real instrument. I actually learned the riff to Misty Mountain Hop yesterday. Guitar Hero and Rock Band are Godsends to me. Before GH1 came along, I only listened to radio pop and rap, now I listen to rock exclusively and learn of a new band almost every day. Guitar Hero and Rock Band opened me up to a whole new world of music. If it weren't for internet fanboys suggesting Heartbreaker by Led Zeppelin every day for GH, I wouldn't never bought Mothership. If it weren't for GH, I'd probably be listening to Flo-Rida or something (no offense to those who do).

 

However, GH has some negatives. First off, it has become a fad. Everybody and their mother has heard of Guitar Hero, and thanks to Guitar Hero Aerosmith and On Tour the market is becoming over-saturated with rhythm and music games. Also, the phenomenon of "one-song fans" has been created. You know them, the ones who say they are fans of DragonForce and have only heard Through the Fire and Flames (which actually makes sense since all of their songs sound alike).

 

What do you guys think this? Will Guitar Hero just fade away, or will it stay?

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1066ant

Well I never needed a "Piano Hero" or "Accordian hero" to learn to play my instruments.

 

I fail to see how GH helps you learn any guitar for real, I agree it might inspire people to play a real guitar and learn that. Although if you bought "Guitar" Hero you must want to play a guitar to some ammount... confused.gif

 

I'm confused now.

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Otter

Guitar Hero is to playing the guitar as Ninja Gaiden is to actually being a ninja. Now, I don't see the "just become a real ninja!" argument leveled at players of the latter, so I fail to see why it holds water when it's said about Guitar Hero.

 

And yes, I think it does inspire, and if anything, helps your timing.

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*MURDOC*

I know a lot of guitarists that play GH because, well, it's fun and challenging.

 

But I'm sure it helps with rythym/timing, definitely finger stretching/agility, and for the younger set, finger strength.

 

 

I like playing it for fun, but it also helps to loosen up the digits before I attack the bass.

 

Rock Band I love, it actually does help you learn to control your voice better, plus, I like hearing myself singing with some of my favourite bands master tracks!

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Helps your timing.

Nah, I don't see this game honing a person's timing, because so much of the timing is visual, and the other part is usually based on the beat of the drum. So I mean, unless you're use to playing to the beat of your drummer, it's not going to help; and even then, the fact that most of the timing is based on visual queues, I doubt it would do much.

 

 

I think guitar players are probably just jealous of Guitar Hero. I've played guitar for about five years now, and I think the only thing that really bothers me about Guitar Hero is how it's taken all of the "cool" factor out of playing guitar. I mean, you might be able to play the whole guitar track to some great song, but then some chump will pick-up the Guitar Hero guitar, and play a song with the whole musical backing, and people will invariably appreciate that more unless they themselves are a musician.

 

Aside from that I don't really have many opinions on it. It's a fun game, but I kind of feel like most of the "guitar" aspects of it are just kind of silly, it's just your average rhythm game with a different controller. After a while it becomes a bit trivial, though. Perhaps it's because I'm so used to trying to keeping time, that it's a lot easier for me if I actually try to be serious about it; but it's much more fun to just fool around, try to do whammy bar things when you shouldn't, see how far you can get the crowd to hate you, and then save it, etc. I've even played a couple of songs with it behind my head or with my eyes closed for the hell of it, otherwise it's just not really that much fun to play it perfectly. ( I can play the intro to All Along the Watchtower behind my head in real life, which deserves more bragging rights in my opinion )

 

 

In any case, I just think the whole sentiment that a lot of people have of, "Go learn how to actually play a guitar," can just be chalked up to cynicism or jealousy really. I mean, most people that can play a guitar, worked really hard to be able to make music with it. Then all of the sudden comes this game which anyone can play, and have this idea that they're somehow making music. I think some of them realize how ridiculous that notion is and have to say something about it, and I think others are just egocentric pricks that need to flaunt the fact that they can play a real guitar to people who probably don't care.

 

 

 

I have to say though, the one thing that bothers me about people that play Guitar Hero, but not a real guitar, is that they seem to think the two co-relate way, way too much. Not necessarily the classic, "Oh, I'm good at Guitar Hero, so I'd probably be good with a real guitar," even though that's not unheard of, I'm actually talking about the people that know someone who plays or has played a little themselves, and thinks that will actually give them an edge. You have to sit there and listen to them explain the concepts of "timing" and "rhythm", listen to them get sh*t wrong, I just can't help but feel embarrassed for them.

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*MURDOC*

Now if you could play a real guitar while reading tabliture scrolling at you of a song youve never heard, then you can be a real-life 'Guitar Hero', because that would be f*cking insane!

 

Oh, and for the 'timing' bit, it could help IRL, but only to each specific song.

 

Having trouble staying in rythym with "Jessica"? Play it a few times on GH, I've noticed people doing better using this method.

 

But it's not necessary if you can just play along with the actual song.

 

 

 

GH was never intended to be a learning tool, just a game, and I see it as a fun one of those.

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And yes, I think it does inspire, and if anything, helps your timing.

I beg to differ. It does give you a better sense of rhythm on the whole, but not enough to help your playing ability with a real guitar. Although, I think that any guitarist will find it easier to play the game than non-guitarists. I did.

 

I do hate how some people think they're simply hot sh*t because they can do, say, through the fire and flames on hardest (or whatever it's called). If you hold the same attitude and you're able to play it consistently on a real guitar, brag all you want. It just angers me that people can say such things having not even picked up a real guitar.. confused.gif

 

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Lt. Dan
And yes, I think it does inspire, and if anything, helps your timing.

I beg to differ. It does give you a better sense of rhythm on the whole, but not enough to help your playing ability with a real guitar. Although, I think that any guitarist will find it easier to play the game than non-guitarists. I did.

 

I do hate how some people think they're simply hot sh*t because they can do, say, through the fire and flames on hardest (or whatever it's called). If you hold the same attitude and you're able to play it consistently on a real guitar, brag all you want. It just angers me that people can say such things having not even picked up a real guitar.. confused.gif

 

/rant

Herman Li can't even play the real song.

 

Of course it doesn't help with playing a guitar, the only similar thing is the shape of the controller. There's a video of Rush playing Rock Band somewhere, and you can see Alex Lifeson looking for strings on the neck and failing horribly. biggrin.gif

 

And by "inspire" I think he meant that it would encourage players to try out a real instrument.

 

And it's true, people that think they're hot sh*t are annoying, but they would be annoying without the game if they have that type of personality.

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Having trouble staying in rythym with "Jessica"? Play it a few times on GH, I've noticed people doing better using this method.

 

I love that song, shame I only know 3 guitar chords! biggrin.gif

And by "inspire" I think he meant that it would encourage players to try out a real instrument.

 

 

And by "inspire" I think he meant that it would encourage players to try out a real instrument.

 

Didn't he say that in the first post... whatsthat.gif

 

 

 

 

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WhittyC

Im not a big fan of guitar hero, I think that real guitar is way better, it's not the same to me, does anyone know if they use actual tabs or not? Because I can play "Dead!" on guitar and the first couple of chords were similar to real guitar, would be neat if they do.

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Tony Mozzarelli 80

Yeah well it's just a game really, but if it motivates people to learn a new skill or even piques their interest in new types of music, then i guess it can't be a bad thing

 

Interestingly i think being a guitar player, puts you at a disadvantage when you try to play guitar hero, it's just so radically different that what i've previously trained my fingers to do almost automatically, i now have to re-programme in order to play the game

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Yes, by 'inspire,' I was, in fact, agreeing with the sentinment in the first post that the game will inspire those uninterested in music to pick up an instrument, and that is in any case a good thing.

 

As for timing, I've found that, personally, it has helped my timing - though I've had no professional training, so I'm coming from a 'self-trained' position, and therefore I'm going to find a little help in all but the oddest of sources. In Guitar Hero, I find that counting as I play actually helps, and that has translated to a better understanding of counting out notes and reading music in 'real life,' so to speak.

 

However, as this is probably the most fundamental basis for music, once you've got it, you've got it, and a game like Guitar Hero is not going to improve anything.

 

Finally, being able to beat Dragforce on Hard, or god forbid the Expert setting, is definitely something to brag about. Probably one of the geekiest things you could ever brag about short of winning a Magic The Gathering standard tourney with a Kithkin deck, but definitely an achievement in its own right.

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hick

I actually found it hard, being a musician myself it felt wierd not playing to the same rhythm as the guitar, in guitar hero you play a simplified sort of rhythm, it's hard to get used too. I suppose it's good for summin to do at parties and get togethers, can be fun colgate.gif

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I actually found it hard, being a musician myself it felt wierd not playing to the same rhythm as the guitar, in guitar hero you play a simplified sort of rhythm, it's hard to get used too. I suppose it's good for summin to do at parties and get togethers, can be fun colgate.gif

From what I could see while waiting for my turn, you generally strike the first beat of a new measure, and let the background notes fill in the rest. Or in other words, you hit the button once, and the song progresses 'n' more beats, n depending on the timing of the measure itself.

 

For example, if the measure was in 4/4 timing, and a song had some power-notes, it was kind of easy to anticipate hitting the button for every other beat and letting the drum fill in the rest.

 

 

 

Aside from that, I suppose when you have a lot of experience dissecting rhythm ( play mostly rhythm guitar too ), a simple rhythm based game like this just won't really be the same type of challenge that other ones do. I've played Dance Dance Revolution ( with a controller ), and I f*ckin' suck at it. However, with Guitar Hero, it's almost so easy that after a while of playing, it I was just going through the songs to hear them.

 

That's not really that bad, but I don't know, I would have to be drunk or stoned and in a party environment to be able to enjoy it. I do think that the fact it inspires people to pick up an instrument is also instrumental ( pun intended ) in the false-ego people get when playing the game. It's not as if people come right out and say, "Man, I'm so good at this, I bet I could really play the song," but after a while it just gets kind of tedious listening to people analyze it in that sort of way, trying to come up with complex reasoning why it might or might not help timing.

 

If you want to improve your music skills, play real music. It's not so much the idea that I think, "Oh, why don't you go play a real guitar," I just think it's kind of funny to use something like Guitar Hero for rhythm training or "inspiration" where for the cost of the game and controller, you can go buy a metronome, and a few audio cables to hook your real guitar up to a CD player and play along with the actual music. Of course it's not as fun because Guitar Hero is simpler, automatically adjusts timing and tempo, and of course will predict what you're going to play instead of you having to remember it.

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Lt. Dan

 

If you want to improve your music skills, play real music.  It's not so much the idea that I think, "Oh, why don't you go play a real guitar," I just think it's kind of funny to use something like Guitar Hero for rhythm training or "inspiration" where for the cost of the game and controller, you can go buy a metronome, and a few audio cables to hook your real guitar up to a CD player and play along with the actual music.  Of course it's not as fun because Guitar Hero is simpler, automatically adjusts timing and tempo, and of course will predict what you're going to play instead of you having to remember it.

Then again, most casual players of the game wouldn't have the desire to learn the real thing in the first place.

 

And also, learning the real thing isn't very fun (not to take away anything from guitar playing). If you can find four of your friends who are proficient at singing, drums, guitar and bass guitar in the first place you are probably the luckiest person ever. At parties, people don't break into jam sessions, they just want to rock out to songs they know.

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WhittyC

 

And also, learning the real thing isn't very fun (not to take away anything from guitar playing). If you can find four of your friends who are proficient at singing, drums, guitar and bass guitar in the first place you are probably the luckiest person ever.

Learning is never fun, but it's what you have to do if you want something. And I guess Im the luckiest person ever cause two of my friends are learing guitar and bass and my cousin plays drums and Im playing guitar and singing biggrin.gif but you dont really have to have friends that can do it, just find people that can, and hopefully you wont hate each other.

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If you want to improve your music skills, play real music.  It's not so much the idea that I think, "Oh, why don't you go play a real guitar," I just think it's kind of funny to use something like Guitar Hero for rhythm training or "inspiration" where for the cost of the game and controller, you can go buy a metronome, and a few audio cables to hook your real guitar up to a CD player and play along with the actual music.   Of course it's not as fun because Guitar Hero is simpler, automatically adjusts timing and tempo, and of course will predict what you're going to play instead of you having to remember it.

Then again, most casual players of the game wouldn't have the desire to learn the real thing in the first place.

 

And also, learning the real thing isn't very fun (not to take away anything from guitar playing). If you can find four of your friends who are proficient at singing, drums, guitar and bass guitar in the first place you are probably the luckiest person ever. At parties, people don't break into jam sessions, they just want to rock out to songs they know.

Well of course, and I think that's why people like it over a real guitar, and while so many real guitar players look at it with spite.

 

Part of the joy of learning how to play the guitar comes from finally getting something right. After a while you generally become good enough to come up with a riff off of the hip, but even then, to remember it, and play it perfectly over and over again is an accomplishment.

 

With Guitar Hero, there's really no challenge to jump in and start "rocking out", and I think that's both the appeal and the reason why some don't like it. Some guitar players might sit there and think, "Man, I have to hang out with my band, filled with people I probably don't like, to play this song, and barely anyone wants to listen to us," when there's some high-school kid playing the same exact song with 4 other virtual players, and having the whole party cheering for him.

 

 

What I'm talking about though is people that already have a guitar or access to one, that play Guitar Hero with the notion that it will give them some sort of edge for playing the real guitar. I mean, the idea behind helping timing is great; but if you're really interested in helping your skills, use a metronome. Obviously Guitar Hero is a lot more fun than a metronome, but I don't know, I guess as a person who can easily pick up a guitar, and make a song in a matter of minutes, the idea of Guitar Hero being more fun just sort of dissipates. I suppose when I was first beginning, I would have liked to take a break from not being able to play something well on the real thing, and just practice the timing on Guitar Hero for fun, but I kind of fail to see how it's "inspiring" or how it would in any way simulate the "music making" experience.

 

In one way I think that people who are inspired by Guitar Hero to learn an instrument might be selling themselves short. They play this game and they get this nice feeling of creating music and playing the songs, and they think, "Well, I want to learn how to actually do this on the guitar." However, in my opinion, if the inspiration wasn't already there, the amount that Guitar Hero offers isn't going to be enough in my opinion to keep a person dedicated. I was originally inspired by Metallica and other kids I knew getting into it; I use to have a preconceived notion that, "No one can really play the guitar," so the idea of actually being able to reproduce the songs perfectly, as the people that played themselves had done, felt almost the same as if I had been pulling off the same spells that some wizard had done or something equally as fantastic. After a while though, when I realized how difficult it was to really do that, I lost interest somewhat; after that my dedication became not learning to play other people's songs, but making my own. I'm not sure that when the feeling of accomplishment is as easy as picking up the Guitar Hero controller, many people will want to dedicate themselves to the guitar for as long as it really takes.

 

I suppose in a much simpler way of saying: You won't get from a guitar what you get from Guitar Hero for a long time, so I kind of see a lot of people that started or were inspired to play by Guitar Hero, probably won't dedicate themselves to the guitar for that long.

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hick

I was born into a musical family so i had the privilage of having someone to goto whenever i didn't get something (my dad). Alot of people don't have that privilage or even the money to buy a guitar so they look at guitar hero as an easier option, it's cheaper, easier to learn and you can just get straight to it, no frett buzz like when you first pick up a guitar and stuff.

Hehe i'm sh*tting myself, this friday i gotta get up with my dads band and sing and play guitar, the rooms gonna be full of people nervous.gif

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Lt. Dan

 

If you want to improve your music skills, play real music.  It's not so much the idea that I think, "Oh, why don't you go play a real guitar," I just think it's kind of funny to use something like Guitar Hero for rhythm training or "inspiration" where for the cost of the game and controller, you can go buy a metronome, and a few audio cables to hook your real guitar up to a CD player and play along with the actual music.   Of course it's not as fun because Guitar Hero is simpler, automatically adjusts timing and tempo, and of course will predict what you're going to play instead of you having to remember it.

Then again, most casual players of the game wouldn't have the desire to learn the real thing in the first place.

 

And also, learning the real thing isn't very fun (not to take away anything from guitar playing). If you can find four of your friends who are proficient at singing, drums, guitar and bass guitar in the first place you are probably the luckiest person ever. At parties, people don't break into jam sessions, they just want to rock out to songs they know.

Well of course, and I think that's why people like it over a real guitar, and while so many real guitar players look at it with spite.

 

Part of the joy of learning how to play the guitar comes from finally getting something right. After a while you generally become good enough to come up with a riff off of the hip, but even then, to remember it, and play it perfectly over and over again is an accomplishment.

 

With Guitar Hero, there's really no challenge to jump in and start "rocking out", and I think that's both the appeal and the reason why some don't like it. Some guitar players might sit there and think, "Man, I have to hang out with my band, filled with people I probably don't like, to play this song, and barely anyone wants to listen to us," when there's some high-school kid playing the same exact song with 4 other virtual players, and having the whole party cheering for him.

 

 

What I'm talking about though is people that already have a guitar or access to one, that play Guitar Hero with the notion that it will give them some sort of edge for playing the real guitar. I mean, the idea behind helping timing is great; but if you're really interested in helping your skills, use a metronome. Obviously Guitar Hero is a lot more fun than a metronome, but I don't know, I guess as a person who can easily pick up a guitar, and make a song in a matter of minutes, the idea of Guitar Hero being more fun just sort of dissipates. I suppose when I was first beginning, I would have liked to take a break from not being able to play something well on the real thing, and just practice the timing on Guitar Hero for fun, but I kind of fail to see how it's "inspiring" or how it would in any way simulate the "music making" experience.

 

In one way I think that people who are inspired by Guitar Hero to learn an instrument might be selling themselves short. They play this game and they get this nice feeling of creating music and playing the songs, and they think, "Well, I want to learn how to actually do this on the guitar." However, in my opinion, if the inspiration wasn't already there, the amount that Guitar Hero offers isn't going to be enough in my opinion to keep a person dedicated. I was originally inspired by Metallica and other kids I knew getting into it; I use to have a preconceived notion that, "No one can really play the guitar," so the idea of actually being able to reproduce the songs perfectly, as the people that played themselves had done, felt almost the same as if I had been pulling off the same spells that some wizard had done or something equally as fantastic. After a while though, when I realized how difficult it was to really do that, I lost interest somewhat; after that my dedication became not learning to play other people's songs, but making my own. I'm not sure that when the feeling of accomplishment is as easy as picking up the Guitar Hero controller, many people will want to dedicate themselves to the guitar for as long as it really takes.

 

I suppose in a much simpler way of saying: You won't get from a guitar what you get from Guitar Hero for a long time, so I kind of see a lot of people that started or were inspired to play by Guitar Hero, probably won't dedicate themselves to the guitar for that long.

That's if they start practicing and have the pre-concieved notion that they will be as good as Jimi Hendrix after practicing for a day or two, which makes them a jackass with or without Guitar Hero.

 

I was one of the people to be inspired by GH to learn a bit of guitar, and I found that it was obviously more hard than it looked (I was always told if a musician makes it look like what they do is easy, they're a good musician). I eventually learned the riff to Heartbreaker and The Ocean and gave up afterwards, not because I didn't have the drive, but because I couldn't go beyond that point. I can only teach myself so much before having to rely on an instructor to help me, and guitar lessons are far away and don't work out with the work schedules of my parents.

 

Edited by Lt. Dan

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Otter

Some of you may get a kick out of Guitar Pro, if you haven't been using it for tabs already. Basically, you can set it after the same sort of fashion as Guitar Hero, (displaying either tabs or sheet music, or both) and play along with it. I've found it super helpful... and super fun. Additionally, thousands of songs are out there for download.

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To me, the people that say, "I'd prefer playing REAL guitar." Don't understand what Guitar Hero is. Or they just like to think they are hot sh*t because they own a real guitar, or they want to impress people. These are the same people, usually macho assholes, that think more of their image than their enjoyment of life.

 

But like Otter said, It's just a game. To me, it's not a choice between playing guitar or Guitar Hero. Guitar is much more satisfying, yes. And I would pick my guitar up over Guitar Hero any day of the week. But I never see them as being close to the same activity as each other, let alone getting the same satisfaction.

 

In other words, when I feel like playing guitar, I'll do that. And when I feel like playing a video game that challenges the reflexes, I'll play Guitar Hero. I mean, you wouldn't ask the average Madden fan, "Why do you play Madden? Why don't you play real football?"

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Struff Bunstridge

 

And also, learning the real thing isn't very fun (not to take away anything from guitar playing). If you can find four of your friends who are proficient at singing, drums, guitar and bass guitar in the first place you are probably the luckiest person ever.

Yeah, because then you could form a band, and God knows that never happens. sarcasm.gif

 

I've never played GH, but I've seen it played, and it seems to me to bear little or no resemblance to actually playing the guitar. I'm waiting for an adapter enabling you to plug a real guitar into a PS3 or whatever, and then play along that way. Until then, the only musical benefit I can see is improving one's timing, which is obviously vital if you're playing with other musicians. If it inspires anyone to pick up the guitar and start writing songs, then so much the better, but it is just a game.

 

I've been playing for a while, but can't read sheet music or tabs, so everything I've learned has been by ear or watching others. A friend of mine moved in about three weeks ago, and he's a ridiculous shredder; learning scales from him seems to me to be infinitely more interesting than pressing buttons in time with a pre-recorded track.

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Tony Mozzarelli 80

Learning to play the guitar is definitely more fun, but GH is still a fun game to play, and that's all it is. It's not really supposed to be anything like the real thing. It will work as a decent finger exercise though, and when all's said and done it;s just a fun game.

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Lt. Dan
And also, learning the real thing isn't very fun (not to take away anything from guitar playing). If you can find four of your friends who are proficient at singing, drums, guitar and bass guitar in the first place you are probably the luckiest person ever.

Yeah, because then you could form a band, and God knows that never happens. sarcasm.gif

I mean close friends. Like friends from school, the ones I play Rock Band with.

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Ronnyboy

I think Guitar Hero is a game, but is also helping out the guitar industry. Most kids think that, since they can play expert, can play a real guitar. This is what then causes the back handed advertising.

 

When a kid beats through the Fire and Flames, he thinks he/she can truly play the guitar. After showing off to his younger friends, they say he can really play a guitar, because of him being an expert of a fake guitar. He then goes to his parents begging for a guitar. He says he mostly knows how to play because he beat expert, and knowing his parents are idiots, that means he gets the guitar because he is an "Expert". Then they go to a guitar shop, where the salesman swindles them into buying an expensive guitar, he doesn't need.

 

He then gets home, and finds out he can't play anything. He then proceeds to tell his parents he needs lessons to play it. The parents then send him to classes to learn how to play, he never practices, stops caring, and the expensive guitar is forgotten.

 

The parents money is wasted, but the guitar companies have just gained a large profit, all because of Guitar Hero making it seem easy to play guitar. It's no wonder that Rock Band came out, because now, I bet drum companies are seeing an influx of buyers.

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I think Guitar Hero is a game, but is also helping out the guitar industry. Most kids think that, since they can play expert, can play a real guitar. This is what then causes the back handed advertising.

 

When a kid beats through the Fire and Flames, he thinks he/she can truly play the guitar. After showing off to his younger friends, they say he can really play a guitar, because of him being an expert of a fake guitar. He then goes to his parents begging for a guitar. He says he mostly knows how to play because he beat expert, and knowing his parents are idiots, that means he gets the guitar because he is an "Expert". Then they go to a guitar shop, where the salesman swindles them into buying an expensive guitar, he doesn't need.

 

He then gets home, and finds out he can't play anything. He then proceeds to tell his parents he needs lessons to play it. The parents then send him to classes to learn how to play, he never practices, stops caring, and the expensive guitar is forgotten.

 

The parents money is wasted, but the guitar companies have just gained a large profit, all because of Guitar Hero making it seem easy to play guitar. It's no wonder that Rock Band came out, because now, I bet drum companies are seeing an influx of buyers.

And then i buy the guitar off them at a really cheap price because they have no idea of how great the guitar really is...

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Cubanwhip

Three months, I think it's been. Yeah, three months. With a real guitar I mean. A year or two for guitar hero.

 

Whenever I listened to music, before guitar hero, I would always play air guitar and was completely absorbed by the music. I always wanted to play guitar, but of course I was somewhere around eleven and my mom thought it best to concentrate on school and forget such silly things.

 

Flash forward a few years to this point where I was walking around EBX, with my mom coincidentally and I saw Guitar Hero 2 for PS2. I always heard great reviews about the game and the memories of my yearning to play guitar flooded back. I begged my mom to buy it, and with an exasperated sigh, she agreed but stated that I would probably get bored and never use it again.

 

Quite the contrary. I played the game, starting on easy and working my way up to hard. My mom was impressed, not by the fact that I moved up difficulties, but by the fact that I dedicated myself to something instead of just dumping it off. This lead her to buying Rock Band and Guitar Hero 3 because she knew that it wasn't something I would just abandon and forget about. I was truly dedicated.

 

Forward to a three months ago when my brother pulled an acoustic guitar out of his ass (my sister's bedroom (she went to college and left it behind)). I asked if I could have it, and after some arguing he gave it up to me. I plucked the strings and I knew something was there. Looked up and learned the tab to "Space Oddity" by David Bowie, and I knew for a fact I was gonna learn guitar.

 

I still balanced my time. I played guitar hero, but I never correlated the game to an actual guitar. The game was a game in my head. Like DDR. This one friend on mine was always like "Dude, you should play a real guitar, you're really good at this game" but I always laughed it off because there was no f*cking way that playing guitar hero meant you could play an actual guitar.

 

So I played the acoustic for a month and learned cords, on my own, using the internet and some charts. I learned more riffs and taught myself. So I decided I can finally make the step to electric. I was on Ebay and I found the guitar I had always wanted. A Stratocaster. Going for $299 and it was purple, and I was in love.

 

I appraoched my mom and told her I would pay her back, but I needed this guitar. She looked at me, and it was like deja-vu for real because it was the same look I got in EBX the day I asked for guitar hero 2, and she gave the same response.

 

Now, my 360 is broken, I have no TV, no guitar hero, just my purple Strat and a computer full of tabs. I don't thank guitar hero for the fact that it's taught me anything, because it hasn't, but proving to my mom that if I like something I will dedicate myself. And now I'm starting to form a band, slowly with me being lead. And it's f*cking awesome. [/end of cliche story]

 

tl;dr Guitar Hero doesn't teach you sh*t. I play guitar because I want to and guitar hero helped in proving to my mom my dedication to guitars.

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Struff Bunstridge

Yeah, because then you could form a band, and God knows that never happens.  sarcasm.gif

I mean close friends. Like friends from school, the ones I play Rock Band with.

That's how bands get formed dude. It's not like some kind of miracle.

 

Why don't you and the guys you play with get some cheap-ass real instruments together and give it a shot? I'm reliably informed by a work colleague that in order to play the upcoming Rock band release, you'll have to have spent around £500 on the game, instruments and the console; you could kit out a real band with that. Just a thought.

 

Ronnyboy: That sounds a pretty extreme scenario. I don't know about you, but there's no way I'd buy my kid a musical instrument without knowing anything about it, and definitely no way I'd do it based on their skills at a game. Also, no-one starts out playing super-expensive guitars. Quite apart from anything, they only sound any good in the hands of someone who knows how to play them properly.

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That's how bands get formed dude. It's not like some kind of miracle.

 

Why don't you and the guys you play with get some cheap-ass real instruments together and give it a shot? I'm reliably informed by a work colleague that in order to play the upcoming Rock band release, you'll have to have spent around £500 on the game, instruments and the console; you could kit out a real band with that. Just a thought.

Not always. The members of Led Zeppelin didn't know eachother until they recruited Robert Plant and John Paul Jones from advertisements. That's just one example.

 

Um, what if we don't want to? We don't really give a sh*t about making music, we're happy with listening to music that's already out. That, and without lessons (which you failed to mention) we would sound very good.

 

Here's just a thought: you're getting screwed by EA because you live in Europe. Rock Band 2 is $60 here, $170 for the bundle.

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Ronnyboy
Ronnyboy: That sounds a pretty extreme scenario. I don't know about you, but there's no way I'd buy my kid a musical instrument without knowing anything about it, and definitely no way I'd do it based on their skills at a game. Also, no-one starts out playing super-expensive guitars. Quite apart from anything, they only sound any good in the hands of someone who knows how to play them properly.

Well, the salesman might go either way. He could be the good salesman and give them the cheap one. Or the salesman could go bad, and try and sell him the greatest guitar in store. A parent could also see how well there child could go, with all those skills he has learned from Guitar Hero. That would give them more to buy a guitar for there kids.

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