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Short answer: No.

What!? Short answer: Partially. OK so there is only one airport...that never stopped R* before! Vice City and Vice City Stories both had one airport and planes...GTAIII had them but the wings were taken off after 9/11. R* said they took planes out because it's only one city and i'm sure that played a part! But you can't deny that the thought of 9/11 videos never crossed their minds...and what would they say? We have a game where you can kill people in many ways but we don't want a plane crash to be a part of that voilence? That would have gone over REAL well...

 

Besides CharmingCharlie has the most plausible idea...

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I honestly can't believe this is actually still in debate.  You need to give it a rest.  It never had anything to do with 9/11.  But you people are so stuck on this "tragedy" that you have to associate it with everything that happens in the world.  Never mind the fact that we as a country were not by any means innocent.  We're not untouchable as so many of you seem to think.

 

Now, before you go off and tell me how insensitive I am, think for a moment and you'll see that we're not a faultless nation.  Yeah, it sucked.  So what.  It's no worse than what we've been doing to other countries for years.  And how about the fact that we terrorized the Native Americans when we moved here and pretty much took over their homes?

 

Yeah, America isn't innocent.  Get over your egos.

Give it a rest?!? Are you serious you loser? You're not worthy to even live in this great nation, let alone worth the life you have you scumbag. Don't you dare badmouth this nation, and don't you dare start a flame war about 9/11 on purpose over a videogame. We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11. What we do is fight back, we don't start wars. We DO protect this world for the most part, and we play a MUCH bigger role in the world then you can obviously comprehend. People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers. And the indians?!? I'm native american and I'll tell you what buddy, it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that, so f*ck you and your warped mentality. I am begging that a mods ban you. You better watch your back talking like that in this country too. You're on my disrespect list now.

If anybody is interested in an interesting movie regarding 911 look here:

 

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

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I honestly can't believe this is actually still in debate.  You need to give it a rest.  It never had anything to do with 9/11.  But you people are so stuck on this "tragedy" that you have to associate it with everything that happens in the world.  Never mind the fact that we as a country were not by any means innocent.  We're not untouchable as so many of you seem to think.

 

Now, before you go off and tell me how insensitive I am, think for a moment and you'll see that we're not a faultless nation.  Yeah, it sucked.  So what.  It's no worse than what we've been doing to other countries for years.  And how about the fact that we terrorized the Native Americans when we moved here and pretty much took over their homes?

 

Yeah, America isn't innocent.  Get over your egos.

Give it a rest?!? Are you serious you loser? You're not worthy to even live in this great nation, let alone worth the life you have you scumbag. Don't you dare badmouth this nation, and don't you dare start a flame war about 9/11 on purpose over a videogame. We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11. What we do is fight back, we don't start wars. We DO protect this world for the most part, and we play a MUCH bigger role in the world then you can obviously comprehend. People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers. And the indians?!? I'm native american and I'll tell you what buddy, it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that, so f*ck you and your warped mentality. I am begging that a mods ban you. You better watch your back talking like that in this country too. You're on my disrespect list now.

 

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@ NPC-hunter :- What the f*ck has iraq ever done to harm americans pre (that means before) operation iraq freedom? what gives you the right to march into other countries to steal their resources, just as the first settlers did to america?

 

The ironic thing is, i love america, i love americans and american culture. i hate your foreign policy. i hate your 2 party system which has the illusion of democracy but is in actuality a dictatorship. kerry and bush were frat brothers for f*ck sake, how many warning signs do you need?

 

but most of all i hate ignorant, uninformed morons that inhabit xbox live who don't have the ability to think for themselves. some label all americans of being like this, i know they aren't and unfortunately this is what happens when 12 year olds get a platform to broadcast their mental inablilties to the world

 

planes are great, too, just to keep on topic

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we don't start wars.

 

Erm.............

Yeah, that's basically what I said when I read it.

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The planes were nerfed in SA too, to try and prevent pop-up, they have a 168mph speed limit.

 

you know GTA 4 runs off a different game engine than sa did.

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why are there not any rockstare employs on tease forms. confused.gif

Because this is just an unofficial fansite. It has no affiliation with Rockstar.

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I honestly can't believe this is actually still in debate.  You need to give it a rest.  It never had anything to do with 9/11.  But you people are so stuck on this "tragedy" that you have to associate it with everything that happens in the world.  Never mind the fact that we as a country were not by any means innocent.  We're not untouchable as so many of you seem to think.

 

Now, before you go off and tell me how insensitive I am, think for a moment and you'll see that we're not a faultless nation.  Yeah, it sucked.  So what.  It's no worse than what we've been doing to other countries for years.  And how about the fact that we terrorized the Native Americans when we moved here and pretty much took over their homes?

 

Yeah, America isn't innocent.  Get over your egos.

Give it a rest?!? Are you serious you loser? You're not worthy to even live in this great nation, let alone worth the life you have you scumbag. Don't you dare badmouth this nation, and don't you dare start a flame war about 9/11 on purpose over a videogame. We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11. What we do is fight back, we don't start wars. We DO protect this world for the most part, and we play a MUCH bigger role in the world then you can obviously comprehend. People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers. And the indians?!? I'm native american and I'll tell you what buddy, it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that, so f*ck you and your warped mentality. I am begging that a mods ban you. You better watch your back talking like that in this country too. You're on my disrespect list now.

are you kidding? he was being perfectly fair. you are obviously so far up your own ass and you contires for that matter to see the truth. america is the most hated nation in the world. and be world i mean earth, not america as it seems that is what most americans believe the world to be. because of american soldiers in irag, thousands of innocent people ahve been killed because of your contries refusal to just leave. and there was no reason to even go to war in the first place, you even ignored the UNs advice which is just ridculous. however i do support the war in iraq as it is completely reasonable, as they have caused much pain for so many families.

and before you start calling me an anti-patriotic so and so, im british. so yeh. and dont start calling us brits useless and stupid. if it wasnt for us your country would not have been so "successful". and before i go, everybody is entitled to their own opinions!

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I honestly can't believe this is actually still in debate.  You need to give it a rest.  It never had anything to do with 9/11.  But you people are so stuck on this "tragedy" that you have to associate it with everything that happens in the world.  Never mind the fact that we as a country were not by any means innocent.  We're not untouchable as so many of you seem to think.

 

Now, before you go off and tell me how insensitive I am, think for a moment and you'll see that we're not a faultless nation.  Yeah, it sucked.  So what.  It's no worse than what we've been doing to other countries for years.  And how about the fact that we terrorized the Native Americans when we moved here and pretty much took over their homes?

 

Yeah, America isn't innocent.  Get over your egos.

Give it a rest?!? Are you serious you loser? You're not worthy to even live in this great nation, let alone worth the life you have you scumbag. Don't you dare badmouth this nation, and don't you dare start a flame war about 9/11 on purpose over a videogame. We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11. What we do is fight back, we don't start wars. We DO protect this world for the most part, and we play a MUCH bigger role in the world then you can obviously comprehend. People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers. And the indians?!? I'm native american and I'll tell you what buddy, it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that, so f*ck you and your warped mentality. I am begging that a mods ban you. You better watch your back talking like that in this country too. You're on my disrespect list now.

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It's not that the rest of the world hates America or Americans, it's the actions of the government. My best mate is from California and he is one of the most rational, humourous and anti-war people I've met. Don't judge a people by there leaders. That goes for Iraq too. The problem is that probably up to Vietnam the world respected the US for its ideals of democracy and fairness as well as its achievements... sure they f*cked up a few times but ALL nations do.

 

Since then though we have unjust (and illegal) invasions of several countries ( I believe over 20 countries have been invaded since Vietnam) as well as more underhand (CIA backed) attempts to topple any foreign government that doesn't 'play ball'. This is why the US GOVERNMENT is the most hated in the world and it's a shame as it could have been a real force for good.

 

It doesn't help that the president is a muppet either.

 

911 was a terrible tragedy. It was not acceptable but (and forgive me) It was not entirely surprising. There were NO links between 911 and Iraq nor has there been any proof of WMD found since the invasion. A lot of US companies have become very rich though and that US oil problem is a little less worrying. As a down side a lot of American, British (and other allies) and Iraqis are now dead for that cause. And that was/is the cause. Not 'liberation', not 'freedom', not 'war on terror' but greed, pure and simple. That tends not to make a county popular. Look at the British Empire.

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pretend its Iraq or something... I see you changed your mind now eh?

A war isnt terrorism!

If its a small group of people attacking an enemy who doesn't know they're being attacked, its called terrorism. If its 100,000 people flying over to completely destroy a nation, its acceptable and called a war.

 

Just like if I got 10 people together who believed my ramblings it'd be called a cult.. but if I got 100,000.. thats a religion and they'll build churches for me.

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I honestly can't believe this is actually still in debate.  You need to give it a rest.  It never had anything to do with 9/11.  But you people are so stuck on this "tragedy" that you have to associate it with everything that happens in the world.  Never mind the fact that we as a country were not by any means innocent.  We're not untouchable as so many of you seem to think.

 

Now, before you go off and tell me how insensitive I am, think for a moment and you'll see that we're not a faultless nation.  Yeah, it sucked.  So what.  It's no worse than what we've been doing to other countries for years.  And how about the fact that we terrorized the Native Americans when we moved here and pretty much took over their homes?

 

Yeah, America isn't innocent.  Get over your egos.

Give it a rest?!? Are you serious you loser? You're not worthy to even live in this great nation, let alone worth the life you have you scumbag. Don't you dare badmouth this nation, and don't you dare start a flame war about 9/11 on purpose over a videogame. We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11. What we do is fight back, we don't start wars. We DO protect this world for the most part, and we play a MUCH bigger role in the world then you can obviously comprehend. People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers. And the indians?!? I'm native american and I'll tell you what buddy, it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that, so f*ck you and your warped mentality. I am begging that a mods ban you. You better watch your back talking like that in this country too. You're on my disrespect list now.

Wow....just wow confused.gif

 

"We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11..."

"...we don't start wars."

"We DO protect this world..."

This is so outrageous it's almost funny, but then ridiculously frightening at the same time.

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I honestly can't believe this is actually still in debate.  You need to give it a rest.  It never had anything to do with 9/11.  But you people are so stuck on this "tragedy" that you have to associate it with everything that happens in the world.  Never mind the fact that we as a country were not by any means innocent.  We're not untouchable as so many of you seem to think.

 

Now, before you go off and tell me how insensitive I am, think for a moment and you'll see that we're not a faultless nation.  Yeah, it sucked.  So what.  It's no worse than what we've been doing to other countries for years.  And how about the fact that we terrorized the Native Americans when we moved here and pretty much took over their homes?

 

Yeah, America isn't innocent.  Get over your egos.

Give it a rest?!? Are you serious you loser? You're not worthy to even live in this great nation, let alone worth the life you have you scumbag. Don't you dare badmouth this nation, and don't you dare start a flame war about 9/11 on purpose over a videogame. We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11. What we do is fight back, we don't start wars. We DO protect this world for the most part, and we play a MUCH bigger role in the world then you can obviously comprehend. People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers. And the indians?!? I'm native american and I'll tell you what buddy, it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that, so f*ck you and your warped mentality. I am begging that a mods ban you. You better watch your back talking like that in this country too. You're on my disrespect list now.

now lets quote some of the best lines

 

1)You're not worthy to even live in this great nation.

That reminds me on germans in ww2 and their feel of superiority

 

 

2) What we do is fight back, we don't start wars.

So when have iraq attacked usa?

 

 

3)We DO protect this world for the most part.

Iraqis can thank you for protecting them from horrible Sadam and giving them prosperity and peace

 

4)People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers.

2993 were killed in WTC,the population of america is over 300 hundred millions look at the posibility..

 

 

4)And the indians?!?.... it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that

So your future grangrandson can say the same for WTC

 

u brainwashed american

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I honestly can't believe this is actually still in debate.  You need to give it a rest.  It never had anything to do with 9/11.  But you people are so stuck on this "tragedy" that you have to associate it with everything that happens in the world.  Never mind the fact that we as a country were not by any means innocent.  We're not untouchable as so many of you seem to think.

 

Now, before you go off and tell me how insensitive I am, think for a moment and you'll see that we're not a faultless nation.  Yeah, it sucked.  So what.  It's no worse than what we've been doing to other countries for years.  And how about the fact that we terrorized the Native Americans when we moved here and pretty much took over their homes?

 

Yeah, America isn't innocent.  Get over your egos.

Give it a rest?!? Are you serious you loser? You're not worthy to even live in this great nation, let alone worth the life you have you scumbag. Don't you dare badmouth this nation, and don't you dare start a flame war about 9/11 on purpose over a videogame. We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11. What we do is fight back, we don't start wars. We DO protect this world for the most part, and we play a MUCH bigger role in the world then you can obviously comprehend. People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers. And the indians?!? I'm native american and I'll tell you what buddy, it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that, so f*ck you and your warped mentality. I am begging that a mods ban you. You better watch your back talking like that in this country too. You're on my disrespect list now.

are you kidding? he was being perfectly fair. you are obviously so far up your own ass and you contires for that matter to see the truth. america is the most hated nation in the world. and be world i mean earth, not america as it seems that is what most americans believe the world to be. because of american soldiers in irag, thousands of innocent people ahve been killed because of your contries refusal to just leave. and there was no reason to even go to war in the first place, you even ignored the UNs advice which is just ridculous. however i do support the war in iraq as it is completely reasonable, as they have caused much pain for so many families.

and before you start calling me an anti-patriotic so and so, im british. so yeh. and dont start calling us brits useless and stupid. if it wasnt for us your country would not have been so "successful". and before i go, everybody is entitled to their own opinions!

Iraqe didnt cause 9/11 Saddam did, stop sitting whit your head up your ass and get back to school.

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I honestly can't believe this is actually still in debate.  You need to give it a rest.  It never had anything to do with 9/11.  But you people are so stuck on this "tragedy" that you have to associate it with everything that happens in the world.  Never mind the fact that we as a country were not by any means innocent.  We're not untouchable as so many of you seem to think.

 

Now, before you go off and tell me how insensitive I am, think for a moment and you'll see that we're not a faultless nation.  Yeah, it sucked.  So what.  It's no worse than what we've been doing to other countries for years.  And how about the fact that we terrorized the Native Americans when we moved here and pretty much took over their homes?

 

Yeah, America isn't innocent.  Get over your egos.

Give it a rest?!? Are you serious you loser? You're not worthy to even live in this great nation, let alone worth the life you have you scumbag. Don't you dare badmouth this nation, and don't you dare start a flame war about 9/11 on purpose over a videogame. We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11. What we do is fight back, we don't start wars. We DO protect this world for the most part, and we play a MUCH bigger role in the world then you can obviously comprehend. People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers. And the indians?!? I'm native american and I'll tell you what buddy, it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that, so f*ck you and your warped mentality. I am begging that a mods ban you. You better watch your back talking like that in this country too. You're on my disrespect list now.

are you kidding? he was being perfectly fair. you are obviously so far up your own ass and you contires for that matter to see the truth. america is the most hated nation in the world. and be world i mean earth, not america as it seems that is what most americans believe the world to be. because of american soldiers in irag, thousands of innocent people ahve been killed because of your contries refusal to just leave. and there was no reason to even go to war in the first place, you even ignored the UNs advice which is just ridculous. however i do support the war in iraq as it is completely reasonable, as they have caused much pain for so many families.

and before you start calling me an anti-patriotic so and so, im british. so yeh. and dont start calling us brits useless and stupid. if it wasnt for us your country would not have been so "successful". and before i go, everybody is entitled to their own opinions!

Iraqe didnt cause 9/11 Saddam did, stop sitting whit your head up your ass and get back to school.

Proof please?

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I heard that the reason they didint have planes in gta 4 is because people making 9/11 videos with san andreas and posting it to youtube. so the gov told them they cannot put planes in IV.

 

Is this true?

you can still do that with helicopters, has anyone tried a terrorist attack on the bridges with grenades, good fun...

i cant believe a fellow american finds terrorism fun confused.gif

america funded most of the biggest terrorists in the world and they are terrorising iraq for oil right now, so you should find it funny

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US 'interventions' since viet-nam (to give it it's correct name)

 

Cuba, 1963–today.

US blockades island for 39 years. Numerous assassination attempts against leader. Continued actions condemned by Human Rights Groups and the United Nations General Assembly.

 

Australia, 1973–75.

CIA interferes and manipulates free election process.

 

Chile, 1973.

CIA backed coup ousts elected president, installs military Gen. Pinochet. Decades of human rights abuses follow.

 

Portugal, 1974.

CIA funnels millions to destabilize and sabotage NATO ally.

 

Angola, 1976–92.

CIA assists South Africa-backed rebels.

 

Afghanistan, 1979–82.

US supports, arms, trains Mujahadeen rebels including rebel leader Osama bin Laden.

 

El Salvador, 1980–92.

US aids government condemned for gross human rights violations.

 

Nicaragua, 1981–92.

US directs and illegally supports contra war, mines harbor. Allows open flow of narcotics into US. US actions condemned by the United Nations World Court.

 

Chad, 1982.

US supports overthrow of government. CIA supported secret police kill and torture tens of thousands.

 

Libya, 1982.

USA shoots down two Libyan jets.

 

Honduras, 1982–90.

US builds bases near borders, supports government that uses Death Squads against it’s citizens.

 

Lebanon, 1982–84.

US bombs and shells Muslim positions, expels PLO from territory.

 

Grenada, 1983–84.

US military invades tiny island. 400 Grenadians killed. “Gross violation” of international law condemned by United Nations.

 

Iraq, 1987–88.

US supports and arms Saddam Hussein’s Iraq in war against Iran.

 

Iran, 1988.

US shoots down Iranian passenger airliner, killing 290 civilians. Claims it was an “accident.”

 

Libya, 1989.

US bombs capitol Tripoli killing 55 civilians. Calls it “collateral damage.”

 

Philippines, 1989.

US supports corrupt govt of Ferdinand Marcos against citizen uprising.

 

Panama, 1989.

US invades with 27,000 soldiers. Kills 3000+ Panamanians, kidnaps it’s own installed drug-dealing leader and CIA asset. Illegal US actions condemned by nearly unanimous United Nations and Organization of American States.

 

Kuwait, 1991.

US invades Middle East, contradicting its position by intervening in inter-Arab affairs. Returns Kuwaiti Monarchy accused of human right abuses to throne.

 

Iraq, 1990. today.

US randomly bombs civilian areas. Blockades Iraqi ports, allows no humanitarian or medical aid. est. 10,000 Iraqi’s starve/die monthly as result.

 

Bulgaria, 1991.

CIA funnels millions to destabilize one of the first freely elected governments.

 

Somalia, 1992–94.

US sends in humanitarian aid. Becomes involved in civil war, takes sides attacking one Mogadishu faction. Kills 500+ Somalis.

 

Peru, 1992–01.

US provides military support, millions of dollars to corrupt Fujimori government. Drug kingpin Vladimir Montesino on CIA payroll while serving as Intelligence Chief. Involved directly in shooting down missionary aircraft, killing American woman and her infant child.

 

Colombia, 1992–present.

US supports Colombian military, heavily involved in drug trafficking. 1,640 pounds of cocaine lands in Ft. Lauderdale Florida hidden inside Colombian Air Force cargo plane. Nearly 20,000 people killed by US supported military and para-military so far.

 

Bosnia, 1993.

US naval blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.

 

Haiti, 1994.

US blockades island government, CIA supports military coup to remove elected President Aristide, then forcibly re-installs Aristide as President after he agrees to US conditions of rule.

 

Sudan, 1998.

US bombs Aspirin Factory in Khartoum killing civilians.

 

Afghanistan, 1998.

US missiles kill 28 civilians

 

Yugoslavia, 1999.

US laser-guided bombs destroy Chinese Embassy in Belgrade killing three Chinese journalists.

 

Afghanistan, 2001–?

 

Iraq 2003 - ?

 

 

 

 

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I honestly can't believe this is actually still in debate.  You need to give it a rest.  It never had anything to do with 9/11.  But you people are so stuck on this "tragedy" that you have to associate it with everything that happens in the world.  Never mind the fact that we as a country were not by any means innocent.  We're not untouchable as so many of you seem to think.

 

Now, before you go off and tell me how insensitive I am, think for a moment and you'll see that we're not a faultless nation.  Yeah, it sucked.  So what.  It's no worse than what we've been doing to other countries for years.  And how about the fact that we terrorized the Native Americans when we moved here and pretty much took over their homes?

 

Yeah, America isn't innocent.  Get over your egos.

Give it a rest?!? Are you serious you loser? You're not worthy to even live in this great nation, let alone worth the life you have you scumbag. Don't you dare badmouth this nation, and don't you dare start a flame war about 9/11 on purpose over a videogame. We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11. What we do is fight back, we don't start wars. We DO protect this world for the most part, and we play a MUCH bigger role in the world then you can obviously comprehend. People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers. And the indians?!? I'm native american and I'll tell you what buddy, it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that, so f*ck you and your warped mentality. I am begging that a mods ban you. You better watch your back talking like that in this country too. You're on my disrespect list now.

I am more of an American than you are if you honestly believe we are innocent. You are a fool. I'm sorry that you've made it as far as you think you have in life. People like you should have died out long ago. We are the world terrorists, and you're too stupid to see it, because nothing your beloved country does can ever be wrong.

 

Jello Biafra said it best:

"Tell me who's the real patriots? The Archie Bunker slobs waving flags, or the people with the guts to fight for some real change.

Our land I love it too, I think I love it more than you. I care enough to fight the stars and stripes of corruption."

 

Wake up you tool. You're too ignorant to be alive. Ever heard of freedom of speech? Yeah, it applies to everything I said. You're the one who doesn't deserve this country. Your kind isn't welcome. I'll say whatever I want about this country to whoever I want. Marine Corp pricks came to my high school years ago and tried to intimidate me into turning my upside down flag right-side up, and if I didn't cow to their pathetic threats, I'm sure not going to back down from an internet wate of life like you.

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I heard that the reason they didint have planes in gta 4 is because people making 9/11 videos with san andreas and posting it to youtube. so the gov told them they cannot put planes in IV.

 

Is this true?

you can still do that with helicopters, has anyone tried a terrorist attack on the bridges with grenades, good fun...

i cant believe a fellow american finds terrorism fun confused.gif

So what you're saying is that it's ok for us to kill the same amount of npc's in GTA as people who died during 9/11 as long as we don't do it with a plane.

 

Have you ever crashed a plane into a building in any game in the GTA series. When this happens, no one in the buildings die. Because there is no one in the damn buildings.

 

So before you get all upset over 9/11 reinactments in a video game, maybe should think about all of those families that lost a loved one during a carjacking, shootout, hold up, hit and run, and all of the other ways npc's die in GTA.

 

Relax it's just a video game. suicidal.gif

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US 'interventions' since viet-nam (to give it it's correct name)

 

[Endless sh*t]

Man the US government is f*cked up.

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Thank you itsdandaney. That must have taken some time and every American patriot should read it.

 

You could also add prior to Vietnam:

Only country that launched a nuclear attack on a civilian city resulting in mass destruction still felt today (Hiroshima)

 

Twice (Nagasaki)

 

Oh and they attacked Canada twice in the 19th century. Did they teach you that at school NPC? thought not.

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You're right freak, the US government is f*cked up. White house intimidation and CIA intimidation and NSA intimidation and FBI intimidation and just plain intimidation don't help Congress make the right decisions. They help them make right-wing decisions. But, with that said. Every government has done f*cked up sh*t. It happens when someone has power. No matter how limited, they'll find a way to abuse it.

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Thats true but Bush's election was highly suspect (trust me im not into conspiricy theory) plus, what happened to referendums?

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I honestly can't believe this is actually still in debate.  You need to give it a rest.  It never had anything to do with 9/11.  But you people are so stuck on this "tragedy" that you have to associate it with everything that happens in the world.  Never mind the fact that we as a country were not by any means innocent.  We're not untouchable as so many of you seem to think.

 

Now, before you go off and tell me how insensitive I am, think for a moment and you'll see that we're not a faultless nation.  Yeah, it sucked.  So what.  It's no worse than what we've been doing to other countries for years.  And how about the fact that we terrorized the Native Americans when we moved here and pretty much took over their homes?

 

Yeah, America isn't innocent.  Get over your egos.

Give it a rest?!? Are you serious you loser? You're not worthy to even live in this great nation, let alone worth the life you have you scumbag. Don't you dare badmouth this nation, and don't you dare start a flame war about 9/11 on purpose over a videogame. We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11. What we do is fight back, we don't start wars. We DO protect this world for the most part, and we play a MUCH bigger role in the world then you can obviously comprehend. People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers. And the indians?!? I'm native american and I'll tell you what buddy, it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that, so f*ck you and your warped mentality. I am begging that a mods ban you. You better watch your back talking like that in this country too. You're on my disrespect list now.

ur such a idiot u dont start wars ur stupid fight in iraq is about oil for gods sake. im aussie im not proud to be part american.

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Thats true but Bush's election was highly suspect (trust me im not into conspiricy theory) plus, what happened to referendums?

whats worse is, this year in america they are scrappping paper ballots - its going to have no permanent physical record of how you have voted. and a study of these machines by an ivy league university has proven that it is incredibly simple to upload a virus that can rig the votes. can't remember what the machine is called but do a search on youtube for more info.

 

i hate the fact that i believe in these conspiracy theories, but to me the evidence is conclusive

 

seacrh for Bilderberg group for more on world domination.

 

Take the red pill...

 

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What do chads and black Americans getting taken out of the re-vote in Florida have to do with GTA4, because it seems thin, at best!

 

 

I sure as hell didn't vote for our idiot president!

Ever watch the Great Moments in Presidential Speeches on Late Night TV???

I believe it's Letterman on CBS

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I honestly can't believe this is actually still in debate.  You need to give it a rest.  It never had anything to do with 9/11.  But you people are so stuck on this "tragedy" that you have to associate it with everything that happens in the world.  Never mind the fact that we as a country were not by any means innocent.  We're not untouchable as so many of you seem to think.

 

Now, before you go off and tell me how insensitive I am, think for a moment and you'll see that we're not a faultless nation.  Yeah, it sucked.  So what.  It's no worse than what we've been doing to other countries for years.  And how about the fact that we terrorized the Native Americans when we moved here and pretty much took over their homes?

 

Yeah, America isn't innocent.  Get over your egos.

Give it a rest?!? Are you serious you loser? You're not worthy to even live in this great nation, let alone worth the life you have you scumbag. Don't you dare badmouth this nation, and don't you dare start a flame war about 9/11 on purpose over a videogame. We don't do anything to other nations like what happened on 9/11. What we do is fight back, we don't start wars. We DO protect this world for the most part, and we play a MUCH bigger role in the world then you can obviously comprehend. People here lost their mothers, fathers, grandparents, spouses, and friends in those towers. And the indians?!? I'm native american and I'll tell you what buddy, it's nobody that's alive today's fault for that, so f*ck you and your warped mentality. I am begging that a mods ban you. You better watch your back talking like that in this country too. You're on my disrespect list now.

Like somebody else said, stfu and watch this

Zeitgeist

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What do chads and black Americans getting taken out of the re-vote in Florida have to do with GTA4, because it seems thin, at best!

 

 

I sure as hell didn't vote for our idiot president!

Ever watch the Great Moments in Presidential Speeches on Late Night TV???

I believe it's Letterman on CBS

nothing, unless you read the NY state thread.

 

i feel that it is imoprtant that everyone is privvy to this information, thats why it was brought up.

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