Breaking Bohan Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 What's the deal with the metric system? Does anybody in the USA feel comortable with it or not? (and not just from buying dope) And for those others who are accustomed to the metric madness ... does it really help you in your day-to-day life? DO you think others "backwards" for not adopting it? Personally. my feelings are mixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makeshyft Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Well, it's the system I was raised with, and I find it to be a practical and easy to follow system of measurements. Imperial just seems... confusing to me. 1000 millimetres in a metre; 100 centimetres in a metre; 1000 metres in a kilometre. It's all pretty straight-forward. I don't expect the United States to jump on the metric wagon any time soon, but I think it will inevitably happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'm not used to the Imperial units. We have been taught metric units since school and I find it way easier to interpret. Although foot, pound and seconds isn't tough either. If I use it more often, I'll get a hold of it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Bohan Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 I guess I don't find the system itself so baffling --- I was taught it in school and college (especially in science) --- yet, I really wish the US would adopt it, I think it would be much simpler. The Imperial units ... that sounds about right! Why!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 What we are taught at a young age, is always easier to grasp as an adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swolo yaggins Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I lived in Spain for 3 years and I love the Metric system. Never got used to Celsius, but I've got a rough idea of it. km -> m -> cm. Just get rid of zero's. No 16 ounces in a pound and 2000 pounds in a ton (1000kg). 1L of water = 1kg of water. how easy? How much does a gallon of water weigh in pounds? Who the f*ck gives a sh*t? Science is easier in metric. Imagine using imperial for science. NIGHTMARE. I still don't know pints, quarts, etc. 5192:12.3.02LM/SSHmkl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iminicus Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I dislike the metric system in relation to speed and distance. To me 100 kilometers is week compared to 100 miles. Same with 100 kilometers per hour doesn't sound anywhere near as fast as 100 miles per hour, well because it isn't. Also, I hate being weighed in kilograms and measured in meters and centimeters. They don't sound as cool as 6 feet 2 inches or 220 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Bohan Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 I lived in Spain for 3 years and I love the Metric system. Never got used to Celsius, but I've got a rough idea of it. km -> m -> cm. Just get rid of zero's. No 16 ounces in a pound and 2000 pounds in a ton (1000kg). 1L of water = 1kg of water. how easy? How much does a gallon of water weigh in pounds? Who the f*ck gives a sh*t? Science is easier in metric. Imagine using imperial for science. NIGHTMARE. I still don't know pints, quarts, etc. You're not alone man - that pint and quart sh!t is a total mess ... I thought it was invented by the British for some reason, and their logic totally escapes me. I didn't know it was called "Imperial" system .... it's a royal clusterfuK is what it is! @Iminicus - you're right - when it comes to longer distances, i'm totally fine w/o the metric system. Miles works just great for me ... speed as well - nice point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlow Chatterbox Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I love the Metric system when I am playing games knowing I am going at 360 Kph than about 200 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Bohan Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 I love the Metric system when I am playing games knowing I am going at 360 Kph than about 200 mph. I bet you do ... you cheeky bastard. This is probably why we don't adopt the metric system! Shame on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Metric is measurement for dummies. It's awesome. Imperial measurements are just archaic complications for something that really should be simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iminicus Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Metric is measurement for dummies. It's awesome. Imperial measurements are just archaic complications for something that really should be simple. Are you too stupid for Imperial? Seriously, I always have to ask that. Simplicity can suck sometimes and metric is the time it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkerBoh Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I like measuring things in animals. Like I have 4 and a half lizards. Lizards are gallon. 5 dollar a lizard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I agree with something Svip has spoken about, for over two decades I have believed it, duodecimal is superior to metric and the entire base 10 system of things and the rest of mathmatics would benefit from coverting tremendously. Converting the zero placement to the twelves position is not such a difficult thing if you do it for everything.....most of the rest of the metric system will convert if you just alter your definitions but it might be better if called the Duodecimal System and just covert everything. The great thing is that all of the other equasions that are discounted by the metric propostioners will be viable and convertable in a direct sense. Inches to duodecimal and even feet to Duodecameters will be much easier and the long term benefits will be great after a few centuries. Base Ten only seems great because of the human tradition of counting on your hands. Before you disagree, I suggest you read A History of Mathmatics by Carl B. Boyer or any of several other histories on the topic. Duodecimal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I agree with something Svip has spoken about, for over two decades I have believed it, duodecimal is superior to metric and the entire base 10 system of things and the rest of mathmatics would benefit from coverting tremendously. Converting the zero placement to the twelves position is not such a difficult thing if you do it for everything.....most of the rest of the metric system will convert if you just alter your definitions but it might be better if called the Duodecimal System and just covert everything. The great thing is that all of the other equasions that are discounted by the metric propostioners will be viable and convertable in a direct sense. Inches to duodecimal and even feet to Duodecameters will be much easier and the long term benefits will be great after a few centuries. Base Ten only seems great because of the human tradition of counting on your hands. Before you disagree, I suggest you read A History of Mathmatics by Carl B. Boyer or any of several other histories on the topic. Duodecimal! "Base Ten" only seems so good because it's been the traditional numbering system for thousands of years now. I really doubt that it has anything to do with counting on your fingers; unless people were accustomed to chopping off portions of digits for rational computation. I really prefer the metric system when it comes to equations, measuring, and that sort of thing. It's much easier to do complex math involving several equations with metric than with Imperial. With imperial, you often have to use other equations to convert things such as inches into feet, because we are so used to "Base Ten", we have to use equations like that. On the other hand with metric, it's pretty simple to convert centimeters into meters, or even millimeters into kilometers, because it's all based on tens and is more natural. That's why I find it weird that we still even teach Imperial, but it's probably only still taught because it's conventional here. You know, kids are pretty much setup thinking in "feet" and "inches" before they get to school. I don't really care to speculate about what kind of numbering system is the best, but convention is probably what things should be based off of, yet people are being taught measurements that don't even coincide with their numbering system. Kind of silly. Anyway, I've been slowly training myself to be able to think in metric. I'm pretty good with estimating distances up to meters, but I'm terrible with kilometers. Fairly good at Celsius temperatures, although I do have to look a few up on occasion. Imperial measurements of volume have never made sense to me, so thinking in liters is much easier. And of course I'm a pot head, some I'm accustomed to metric weight/mass measurements. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Metric is measurement for dummies. It's awesome. Imperial measurements are just archaic complications for something that really should be simple. Are you too stupid for Imperial? Seriously, I always have to ask that. Simplicity can suck sometimes and metric is the time it sucks. More like apathetic. You'd rather date a simple woman than a head case, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-hawk Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Metric ftw, it's also more accurate. Also, -20 Celsius is how much in Fahrenheit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brz59 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I've been using metric system and Celsius all of my life, though I'm sure I would get used with Imperial and Fahrenheit, should I move to US. It all takes getting used to. Nothing so freaking hard in either system. Metric ftw, it's also more accurate. Also, -20 Celsius is how much in Fahrenheit? Google Calculator ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 (edited) @Sag>Instead of doing a break up of long division, I just altered my quotation of your post, slightly. "Base Ten" only seems so good because it's been the traditional numbering system for thousands of years now. I really doubt that it has anything to do with counting on your fingers; unless people were accustomed to chopping off portions of digits for rational computation. I really prefer the metric system when it comes to equations, measuring, and that sort of thing. It's much easier to do complex math involving several equations with metric than with Imperial. With imperial, you often have to use other equations to convert things such as inches into feet, because we are so used to "Base Ten", we have to use equations like that. On the other hand with metric, it's pretty simple to convert centimeters into meters, or even millimeters into kilometers,because it's all based on tens and is more natural. Firstly, I agree that anyone on these GTAForums who count on their fingers at any time should chop them off just like Sag refers to in his post! Secondly, I have a smidgen more to say about the second area of quotation. I agree only because of the of the habbits of humanity with the statements of what is easier and not because it is better...........lazy humans! Your sentence betrays you! I bet (you can count on it) that even figures of speach are based in the bodily references of such counting and reliance. Off Topic Number Trivia>>VV Oh yeah, one more thing to slip in here, real quick. Technically the first number is not one....it is two, according to definitives on the topic of numbers, a singularity is not a number unless something separate from the singularity exists and thus a number can not exist unless there is a secondary something thus TWO is the first number. There are several ways to explain this yet it is very interesting to consider while reading it from near the beginning of A History of Mathmatics by Carl B. Boyer. Edited July 17, 2008 by HolyGrenadeFrenzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tequeli Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Being Canadian I use a confusing mix of metric and imperial on different things. I will fully admit that imperial is illogical compared to metric but I don't think I'll ever measure my height in centimeters. They teach metric in school but they really should teach us to convert between the two, the school board is a little idealistic to think that we can just get by on metric, being right next to the US makes it necessary to know both. More importantly in trade industries they use all Imperial measurements so really I have no idea what Canada was thinking not teaching us anything on imperial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picolini Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'm going to school for a mechanical CAD degree, so I work with metric dimensions a LOT, so I'm quite used to it. The two are kind of blended together for me, since I use them both here and there. Although it'd be better to have one worldwide method of measuring, that's not the way it is so knowing both just the same helps greatly. I'm sure the same can be said for those where the metric system is their primary one, although I'm sure they use primary, just to a lesser extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Being Canadian I use a confusing mix of metric and imperial on different things. I will fully admit that imperial is illogical compared to metric but I don't think I'll ever measure my height in centimeters. They teach metric in school but they really should teach us to convert between the two, the school board is a little idealistic to think that we can just get by on metric, being right next to the US makes it necessary to know both. More importantly in trade industries they use all Imperial measurements so really I have no idea what Canada was thinking not teaching us anything on imperial. Amen to that. Ever since the UKs currency was decimalised, the metric system has really been the dominant system here in the UK...still, all 5'8", 11st 4lbs (yes I'm a fat bastard) of me drinks pints at the pub. Mind you, over here we measure our fuel economy in miles per gallon, yet pay for fuel in litres. f*cked up eh? I guess it's just what we're used to. As said earlier in the topic, it's what I've grown up with. I can tell you when someone's 6ft, roughly how far a mile away is, but I also can tell when something weighs a kilo or is about a litre in volume. Nothing to do with learning one system, just upbringing. It's like I can't tell you what 20 degrees Celsius is in Fahrenheit, but I can't tell you what 6ft is in cm. Bleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paigey Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I've been using metric in school ever since I started and I still haven't a clue what my height is in CM or how my i weigh in KG's. Nor so i know how to convert km/h to mph, yet i prefer Celcius when it comes to temperatures. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saget Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I dislike the metric system in relation to speed and distance. To me 100 kilometers is week compared to 100 miles. Same with 100 kilometers per hour doesn't sound anywhere near as fast as 100 miles per hour, well because it isn't. Also, I hate being weighed in kilograms and measured in meters and centimeters. They don't sound as cool as 6 feet 2 inches or 220 pounds. You can't compare stuff like that. It's just dumb to say you feel "cooler" by weighing 220 pounds. Change that to kilos and suddenly you weight "less", value-wise. That's what it is in the end, just a value change. Different systems are just a matter of getting used to them. I have a pretty good idea of what 300km are in a map, for instance. We use the metric system, so all this miles, feet, inch, thumb, head, whatever doesn't make much sense to me. And Fahrenheit can just die, I mean, what the hell is up with that. Even temperature measured in kelvin is easier to understand. |DeviantArt|Flickr|YouTube|#amf| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. H. Hunter III Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I really wish that the US (and other non-metric countries as well) would try to adopt the Metric system. Measuring/ weighing objects makes a lot more sense to me. Now the Fahrenheit does make general sense to over Celsius. Like the temp today is going to be 90 degrees F over 32ish degrees C and now again Celsius makes more sense with the freezing vs. boiling temps. but MPH does sound better than metric units and for the record i do like being measured in feet/inches versus metric as well La famiglia è tutto The strength of a family, like the strength of an army is in its loyalty to each other.~ Mario Puzo ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Bohan Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 "Miles" - is epic! The system makes little to no sense - how did M.Headhunter change his mind so quickly? Who is out there working on behalf of the metric system? It's like a damned conspiracy or something .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. H. Hunter III Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 "Miles" - is epic! The system makes little to no sense - how did M.Headhunter change his mind so quickly? Who is out there working on behalf of the metric system? It's like a damned conspiracy or something .... i didn't change my opinion on the systems. both have there own pros and cons. It's just in my opinion the metric system makes more sense to me. with a few minor pros going to imperial system. La famiglia è tutto The strength of a family, like the strength of an army is in its loyalty to each other.~ Mario Puzo ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Hayden says: (13:08:58) Imperial is f*cked. Hayden ays: (13:09:04) Learn Metrics you silly twits. PAUL says: (13:09:08) it surely is I've grown up with Metric but I understand some Imperial, like 60miles/h is roughly 100km/h, and 98.6°F is 36.7°C. I like Metric better because it's just so simple, 10mm^2 = 10mL (at least I think that's right). Units: Metre (distance) Litre (capacity) Gram (weight) Plus almost everything's measured in multiples of thousands, so for example: Milimetre 1mm (0.001m) Centimetre 1cm (0.01m) Metre 1m Kilometre 1km (1000m) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 And Fahrenheit can just die, I mean, what the hell is up with that. Even temperature measured in kelvin is easier to understand. Of course Kelvin is easier to understand, it's just Celsius + 273.15. If you know the Celsius scale it's a walk in the park. Agreed that Fahrenheit is harder to work out though, then again we're just used to it. I can tell you to within a few degrees Celsius what the temperature feels like, but in Fahrenheit, not a bloody clue. It's not that hard to work out the difference anyway... (5/9)*(Fahrenheit-32) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelly Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 I can't be bothered learning imperial units. Nope, just can't. Google does that for me whenever I need to go back to the middle ages. I'm not like the French, I don't bother others if they don't care for it but I sure like my metric. Watch the irony as svip comes in here and defends the metric system while using insane Danish numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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