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Don Garcia aka NjNakedSnake

Next Protagonist Ethnicity?

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Flesh-n-Bone

PSP games DO count even though they were low budget. And we have not had Asian or Hispanic.

 

Both there

GTA LCS = Italian American

GTA VCS = Afro Caribbean

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Don Garcia aka NjNakedSnake

People who are suggesting a Middle Eastern protagonist....you have to know that will never happen.

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Flesh-n-Bone

 

People who are suggesting a Middle Eastern protagonist....you have to know that will never happen.

Who did it? The only 'Asian' ethnicity I can expect is East-Asian, Chinese or Japanese, whatever it'll be (even Korean).

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sloppy joe

i always enjoyed playing as an italian american. i would like to play as a irish american [im irish]. i always thought whites were more brutal than blacks in gta. not trying to sound racist. i am white after all. anyway, if you were irish it should take place during the years of the dead rabbits [a old irish gang who ran the streets of ny].

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Tony Mozzarelli 80
i always enjoyed playing as an italian american. i would like to play as a irish american [im irish]. i always thought whites were more brutal than blacks in gta. not trying to sound racist. i am white after all. anyway, if you were irish it should take place during the years of the dead rabbits [a old irish gang who ran the streets of ny].

Did you know that Capone was a member of one of those Five points gangs when he was kid?

Just a little fun fact there haha

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gta4fanman

Not that I want to sharp shoot anybody but Niko is Southern European. I know my Balkan buddies would agree.

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D- Ice

 

Well R* have never done the same ethnicity/race twice, as long as you don't count the PSP games.

 

GTA III = American most likely.

 

GTA VC = Italian American

 

GTA SA = African American

 

GTA IV = Eastern European

 

We have had people from every continent except Asia (and Oceania, but no one cares about the lands down under). So a Middle Eastern guy would be good. Does anyone know where there are high levels of immigration from Middle Easterners.

 

Guys, you say you want something different but constantly choose overdone places of origin. Remind me the last time you played as a Middle Eastern dude? And not in a bad light such as the antagonist or terrorist, but as the protagonist.

A Middle-Easterner not shown in a bad light would be great, but the thing your forgetting is this is GTA. Not even the protagonist is 'good' - running over innocent NPC's during car chases and having firefights with gangsters. So a Middle-Eastern protagonist will if anything will just further the crime/terrorist stereotype that's haunting us (yeah I am Middle-Eastern ph34r.gif ).

 

Plus the whole situation in the area is f*cked up enough - yet another media production showing us in a bad light will just reinforce the scumbag Ayatollah and Al Qaeda's point that "America is evil/hates Arabs" and gets them even more influence. It will be pretty irresponsible of R* on those counts to put in a Middle-Eastern protagonist.

 

Plus, they also never did either a South-American/Latino protagonist yet, nor an East-Asian either. It's not like they exhausted all other ethnicities and are only left with either Middle-Eastern or repeating an old one. I still say South-American FTW! cool.gif

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Don Garcia aka NjNakedSnake
A Middle-Easterner not shown in a bad light would be great, but the thing your forgetting is this is GTA. Not even the protagonist is 'good' - running over innocent NPC's during car chases and having firefights with gangsters. So a Middle-Eastern protagonist will if anything will just further the crime/terrorist stereotype that's haunting us (yeah I am Middle-Eastern ph34r.gif ).

 

Plus the whole situation in the area is f*cked up enough - yet another media production showing us in a bad light will just reinforce the scumbag Ayatollah and Al Qaeda's point that "America is evil/hates Arabs" and gets them even more influence. It will be pretty irresponsible of R* on those counts to put in a Middle-Eastern protagonist.

That's why it will never happen, right there.

 

Well like I said, hispanic is the place to go. But if Rstar decides to go to London, we may have a Getaway Mark Hammond type character.

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Sergi
Well R* have never done the same ethnicity/race twice, as long as you don't count the PSP games.

 

GTA III = American most likely.

 

GTA VC = Italian American

 

GTA SA = African American

 

GTA IV = Eastern European

 

We have had people from every continent except Asia (and Oceania, but no one cares about the lands down under). So a Middle Eastern guy would be good. Does anyone know where there are high levels of immigration from Middle Easterners.

 

Guys, you say you want something different but constantly choose overdone places of origin. Remind me the last time you played as a Middle Eastern dude? And not in a bad light such as the antagonist or terrorist, but as the protagonist.

A Middle-Easterner not shown in a bad light would be great, but the thing your forgetting is this is GTA. Not even the protagonist is 'good' - running over innocent NPC's during car chases and having firefights with gangsters. So a Middle-Eastern protagonist will if anything will just further the crime/terrorist stereotype that's haunting us (yeah I am Middle-Eastern ph34r.gif ).

 

Plus the whole situation in the area is f*cked up enough - yet another media production showing us in a bad light will just reinforce the scumbag Ayatollah and Al Qaeda's point that "America is evil/hates Arabs" and gets them even more influence. It will be pretty irresponsible of R* on those counts to put in a Middle-Eastern protagonist.

 

Plus, they also never did either a South-American/Latino protagonist yet, nor an East-Asian either. It's not like they exhausted all other ethnicities and are only left with either Middle-Eastern or repeating an old one. I still say South-American FTW! cool.gif

While I don't think we'll get a Middle Eastern main charcter some GTA has to atleast have a Mid Eastern guy play a lrge rold. I mean IV had some of the worst charcters ever in GTA not to mention you hardly got to know nay as you did in past GTAs but LC is based off NY and they represented the gang/criminal orginization/race of gnagsters poorly.

 

Besides the fact that they left out a large majority of ethnic crime groups that are in NY and they gave ethicnic crime groups that are big in NY(mainly Dominicans) very smalland pointless roles. Mid Easterns for example are very big in NY crimeand national crime as well. Alot of Middle Eastern people not olnly own bodegas here in NY( corner store like places that sell legal and illegal things, use your imagination to what they sell) as well as corner stores wich are used as fronts.

 

Also when it comes to Middle Eastern criminals they are heavily involved in gun running, drugs and front business in the US. R* not only represented NY poorly in IV they represented the criminal groups poorly also. While LC somewhat to a small degree resembled NY it didn't truly feel like NY and one of those reasons is because the way they represented areas and the people that inhabit those areas as well as the various gangs.

 

But on subject it all depends on where the game takes place. I personally want a game that takes place in a 4 or 5 city state with smaller areas surrounding it and those cities be based on Baltimore, Philidelphia,D.C and South Virginia where you play a black drug dealer who's building a criminal empire. Or in the Mid West with a city based on Chicago and R* brings back the gan systme and you play as either a black or spanish gang memeber and you're trying to build your gang up and the gane you're in if you're balck is based off the GDs or Vice Lords and if you're Spanish/Latino it's based off the Latin Kings or the Spanish Lords.

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D- Ice

 

SNIP

I'm no crime expert bro, so I'll take your word on that. However, I'm not sure if we can do with anymore antagonising them, especially since Middle-Easterners have since the 1980's been placed as the baddies in almost every movie - and are already in many videogames, so I still think it would be bad of R* to give up there more independant media feel (the make fun of the government in Republican Space Rangers in IV) for more generic 'Kill the Arab baddies' crap.

 

I really wont mind if they portray Middle-Easterners in a good light, as we're severly lacking in that in current media. They did do something like that in IV with Amir Yosuf in a way, but his role was virtually non-existant.

 

However, you must understand that as soon as they allow you to work for a Middle-Eastern gang as an allie, small-minded extreme right-wingers will go up in arms -the already made a big enough fuss with GTA 4, imagine what will happen when the twist it to call it a terror training tool, even if you just go collecting money for the gang. GTA is already a massive global franchise - even in Arab countries, so show the Arabs as respawning baddies, and you'll drive away those youngsters to the side of Iran and Al-Qaeda, which is irresponsible.

 

While I am the biggest supporter of realism, I think it is still vital for R* to make note of current political situations and sensitivities - and the Middle-East is currently at a near Flashpoint, and a hot-pot of controversy that R* really can do without.

 

Besides, they only exhausted the White, Black, Italian American and Eastern European ethnicities. There's still a whole world out there like East/South-East Asian, Indian and ofcourse South American.

Also, I'd really like this game not to be centred around the character's ethnicity like SA for example, as the whole point of GTA is to work and experience the criminal cultures of as diverse a selection of gangs as possible. BTW, I totally agree with you on GTA 4 there man - I blame many of it's poor variety on just that - you mainly just work for either Eastern European gangsters or the Mafia, with very little other gang missions.

 

Take care now my friend.

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Don Garcia aka NjNakedSnake

Rstar is smart enough that they wouldn't even consider a middle eastern character. They know the hell they'd catch, and it seems with every GTA, the heat gets turned up on them a little more.

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Sergi
Rstar is smart enough that they wouldn't even consider a middle eastern character. They know the hell they'd catch, and it seems with every GTA, the heat gets turned up on them a little more.

IV has barley got any media attention past ot's launh week. VC and SA stayed in the news but IV doen't have any controversial things to keep it relavant in the news.

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Stefan.
Not that I want to sharp shoot anybody but Niko is Southern European. I know my Balkan buddies would agree.

The Balkans are south-eastern Europe, and because they used to be communist/socialist, they're still Eastern Europeans. wink.gif

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D- Ice
Rstar is smart enough that they wouldn't even consider a middle eastern character. They know the hell they'd catch, and it seems with every GTA, the heat gets turned up on them a little more.

Very true man - and the last thing we fans need is another Hot-Coffee like scandle where they have to take away or delete content just before release - leaving somewhat of a vacuum in the gameplay, and all us wondering what the beta would have been like. That iw what always ruins GTA for me, when they take away features from the beta due to controversy.

 

Best thing IMO anyways is not to put it in in the first place and focus on something else.

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sammyman88

Another Italian Character, Sicilian.

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Royal Criminal
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D- Ice

 

Rstar is smart enough that they wouldn't even consider a middle eastern character. They know the hell they'd catch, and it seems with every GTA, the heat gets turned up on them a little more.

But R* are smart enough to know two more things.

 

Firstly, controversy sells copies of a game, I wanted to rebuy San Andreas after I heard about Hot Coffee, just to check it out for myself. People want to see what the fuss is about.

 

Secondly, they're smart enough to know that they have the balls. I doubt that suicide bombing idiots knocking on their door even stirs the least bit of fear in them.

 

Just don't make fun of that Muhammed dude and things will be ok. We all remember what happened with the Danish newspaper pictures of Muhammed. By the way, those were funny as hell, especially the one where he comes out of heaven to announce to the suicide bombers that they were out of virgins. lol.gif

 

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I should go before I start a flame war.

 

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It's not suicide bombers who'll be pissed at them making a Middle-Eastern character - if anything they would have done Iran and Hizbollah terrorists a favour by giving them a fun crime simulator where they can go around killing 'infidels'. And besides which, terrorists would love to play an ex-Takavar Middle-Eastern character who goes around blowing up cars to kill innocents.

 

The people who I imagine will be knocking on the doors will be pissed-off far-righters who'll be accusing R* of being with terrorists and helping them out. After which I imagine the government will censor it.

 

And that Muhammed cartoon was insulting to Muslims, not Middle-Easterners. It

protrayed their revered religious character in a bad light, and stereotypes the whole religion as the extremist version brainwashed into terrorists, to convince repressed young men to blow themselves up for 77 virgins. That is not mainstream Islam, and needless to say such extremist versions are made for the benefit of hate-mongerers such as Iran and Al Qaeda.

 

Anyway, I still found that cartoon a bit funny - I always wondered what they were about. Thanks for posting.

 

Ok, political rant over. biggrin.gif

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Ph3L1z14n0
I'd like another Sicilian character... I got no problem with another one of them at all.

The theme of foreigner fits well into the game because of R*'s parody to America, but i'm not sure about another italian, it's just TOO MUCH, wiseguys these days are like cowboys, we've had indeed TOO MUCH of them, let's move on!!!

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blankoff101

how about a scottish highlander forced to the mainland or how about a mafia esque 1930/40's america or lc,vc and sa all in one game and u hav to fly around to each city

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MobBG

another eastern european

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Don Garcia aka NjNakedSnake

^ Ya, I'll pass on that.

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fishermanGTA

I wouldnt mind an asian character. To work for the yakuza would be sweet!

If not asian then Italian. I think the one I would

like least is a black character. The "hood" thing got old fast in SA.

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Ph3L1z14n0
I wouldnt mind an asian character. To work for the yakuza would be sweet!

If not asian then Italian. I think the one I would

like least is a black character. The "hood" thing got old fast in SA.

It could be black and not be a gang-banger, why not?

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Flesh-n-Bone

I want it to be black and a ghetto guy. The least thing I want to see again is an Italian mobster.

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DanManUtd

I think, either, a Jamaican, a Japanese or an Englishman cool.gif

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Ph3L1z14n0
I think, either, a Jamaican, a Japanese or an Englishman cool.gif

decent choices at least

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Wanted Assailant

Swedish anyone? sly.gif

 

Watch a Swedish guy pop a guy in the face because he refused a cup of coffee!

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donkeyfunker

I got a feeling it's gonna be a Canadian, or someone from the UK.

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