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GTA IV BETA: An In-Depth Look With Pics.

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SovietWarrior42

I'm still a little bummed out about them taking the MP5 out and adding the SW10. Anyways, great topic, there's a lot of things I've missed.

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VickeX

Nice work putting it together, but awful work on the design. Why are the screenshots looking so bad? I assume you used MS paint to do this. That's awful. The whole list should be re-done. tounge.gif

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VickeX

I've just found Jr. Ray's and Jim which proves the "Out of business - The two shops on the left have different signs"-part wrong. Or at least fixes it, kind of.

 

user posted image

 

The shop to the right of JIM has been replaced with another texture though though, as you can see. And then there's some other smaller changes in the background and stuff like that.

 

Now either it's like this, or that beta screenshot was taken some other place and then later on the textures and models were moved to where i found them. I found it most unlikely though.

 

This is the place. You've all been there. http://snapmap.wikigta.org/index.php?map=I...JIM&set=612,260

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pariah87

 

Here's a rarity, if you missed the day it was posted.

 

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As you can see, the health meter was orange. Thors Toys is still there to my knowledge, but I think the stuff outside may have changed a bit.

That place may be beta but it's still in the full game.

 

It's in Alderney, here's a Snap Map Thor's Toy Store

 

 

 

After further investigation, everything in front of the store and beside it are placed the exact same way. Also that black dot you see in the picture is actually just a replacement for the black N dot for North in the full game.

 

 

No wait! There is only one difference.. the white sign in the lower left window is white in the pic and in the game it's a whole new poster that's black... only difference, minus the orange health bar.

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Feral Slug

i remember in one of the earliest screenshots it showed a PMP600 which (correct me if i'm wrong) was less detailed and had different damage modeling.

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GTA_dog

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Let's get some more Beta stuff in here!

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sgt.slaughter

 

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Let's get some more Beta stuff in here!

OK,let me start:in the beta the pool cue was a weapon but was removed.But luckily for PC users,you can get the weapon using a trainer,it has no sound FX for when it hits a solid object,but you can hear it rip through the air if you turn the sound up enough.Also,it even has a slighty different way of hurting someone.Example:With the pool cue,you can hit someone until all their health is gone and they will still be standing up wow.gif ...you have to whack 'em a few more times to get 'em to fall on the ground(unlike the bat).The only thing that doesn't seem to function correctly is the special icon created for it,which doesn't seem to show up sad.gif .

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Sanjeem

I really like This Topic hope the other weapons are included in The NeXt GTA Game.

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GTA_dog
...in the beta the pool cue was a weapon but was removed.But luckily for PC users,you can get the weapon using a trainer,it has no sound FX for when it hits a solid object,but you can hear it rip through the air if you turn the sound up enough.Also,it even has a slighty different way of hurting someone.Example:With the pool cue,you can hit someone until all their health is gone and they will still be standing up wow.gif ...you have to whack 'em a few more times to get 'em to fall on the ground(unlike the bat).The only thing that doesn't seem to function correctly is the special icon created for it,which doesn't seem to show up sad.gif .

The pool cue was in The Lost and Damned DLC though

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sgt.slaughter
The pool cue was in The Lost and Damned DLC though

This one isn't broken,and the icon is different and more San Andreas styled:

 

user posted image

 

The icon style is so radically different that it must've been removed very early in development and then added later as a so-called "new" DLC weapon.

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GTA_dog
The pool cue was in The Lost and Damned DLC though

This one isn't broken,and the icon is different and more San Andreas styled:

 

user posted image

 

The icon style is so radically different that it must've been removed very early in development and then added later as a so-called "new" DLC weapon.

They could've fixed it up for the DLC. Maybe not though.

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NinjaWJ

im pretty pissed off about the silenced pistol thing. i wonder why they had to remove it

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midget2k8

there are birds flying around liberty city ive seen plenty u just dont get many

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sgt.slaughter
there are birds flying around liberty city ive seen plenty u just dont get many

Yeah,but they are not pigeons.

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SLAYERMAGGOT

Alright, i made a little slideshow of beta pics from the ingame tv shows. icon14.gif

 

 

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nellypellit

you missed the different looking michelle. thank god thats not her in the final barf8bd.gif its sick

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Schallerboy20

Those female cops are the exact same models that were used in Max Payne 2, theres also a mod that puts them in SA.

 

Additionaly, there were cops with Short Sleeved Shirts in the beta, in the final, only the fat cops had short sleeves,

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Nillus

Impressive work, nice to see what GTA IV was planned to be. (with the Ferry Terminal etc)

I still want those fingerless gloves. sad.gif

 

EDIT:

Just installed that mod for the gloves, well it's just swapping hand model & texture file with files already in the game, so it's just like a 'tweak'.

They are awesome and I don't know why. happy.gif

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Skyline35

That game gave so much hope, the pictures looked just so unbelieveable, but as it came out, it wasn't so good. I can't say anything bad about it, but still, they changed a lot of stuff and they have that habit "taking out great things" I mean, why not black taxis also? It would be more colorful. A terminal would be great.

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SLAYERMAGGOT

 

Those female cops are the exact same models that were used in Max Payne 2, theres also a mod that puts them in SA.

 

Additionaly, there were cops with Short Sleeved Shirts in the beta, in the final, only the fat cops had short sleeves,

I'm not sure about the female cops, are there any screenshots/videos where you can see them. In the first trailer isn't a female cop, that's just a fat guy cop.

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sgt.slaughter
Those female cops are the exact same models that were used in Max Payne 2, theres also a mod that puts them in SA.

 

Additionaly, there were cops with Short Sleeved Shirts in the beta, in the final, only the fat cops had short sleeves,

I'm not sure about the female cops, are there any screenshots/videos where you can see them. In the first trailer isn't a female cop, that's just a fat guy cop.

I don't know man,the cop in the first trailer looks like a fat red-head lesbian cop to me.But that's just my view on it.

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Dragonex100

Maybe the revolver can be found in BOGT? Nice finds.

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SLAYERMAGGOT

 

Maybe the revolver can be found in BOGT? Nice finds.

Don't think so, it was just seen in some early concepts, with a low poly model and not even with textures.

 

@sgt.slaughter: LOL i really dunno, may someone can prove that mystery of female cops tounge2.gif

 

Alright, i have another beta thing:

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Could that be the beta manana or be the beta buccaneer? Hmm..

Ohh and wtf working car mirrors? wow.gif

 

That comet looks weird

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Some cars i have never seen in the final GTA IV in here:

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For example the blue car on the right or that yellow cabrio with red hardtop.

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Hmmm nice bike
Alright, i have another beta thing:

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Could that be the beta manana or be the beta buccaneer? Hmm..

Ohh and wtf working car mirrors? wow.gif

Yeah, it could be either one of those. It's a bit hard to tell.

 

The working mirror is also interesting, but, to me, the reflection looks a bit "off" on it. If it wasn't edited into this image, then I wonder why they took it out. Maybethey had a problem with what the reflection showed.

 

Also, there are just some slight things with the peds. First, one of them is one I haven't seen before. He's wearing a yellow jacket, is kind of fat, has a messenger bag, and either has long hair or a hood. Second, the guy with the black jacket that is running is in the game (he's the one that calls you a "noob" when bumping into him), but his messenger bag is different in the final version. I think the mailman ped uses that bag now.

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foohy

 

That comet looks weird

CLICK

That's because it's a turismo:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/...A4)_(front).jpg

That's because it's a turismo:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/...A4)_(front).jpg

 

Some cars i have never seen in the final GTA IV in here:

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Some cars i have never seen in the final GTA IV in here:

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For example the blue car on the right or that yellow cabrio with red hardtop.

Well the red hard topped car isn't in the game but the blue car looks like a sentinel:

http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sentinel_(GTA4)_(front).jpg

They were 4-door BMWs in previous games so I bet that it was the beta version of the sentinel! In the final game it is obviously a BMW e46 m3 coupe but in the beta pic it looks like a BMW e36 sedan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M3_E36_Sedan.jpg

(minus the spoiler, of course)

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SLAYERMAGGOT

Rockstar also planned Snow as weather effect, but they scrapped it.

You can find the entry "Snow" in some text files located in Grand Theft Auto IV\common\data\effects. I know there is a snow mod out, but i think it was planned like it could snow, exactly like it can rain in the game. smile.gif

 

@Claude94: Thanks for the info about the peds, it's a bit hard to see, cause of the much blur.

 

@foohy: Well, i think that bright blue car, could be an Feroci.

But i meant the blue car on the rigt side, i think it's a manana, not sure though.

Also in the pic you can see, some peyote's and manana's.

 

On this screen you also can see Stanley Fireproof Doors and different 24/7 Billboard.

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SLAYERMAGGOT

Hey guys, i found cellphones from peds/cutscenes.

I think some were in beta.

 

user posted image

 

user posted image

 

user posted image

 

Notice the whiz theme, it's maybe the beta version of the actual whiz theme.

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Black-hawk

Can the OP update the first post? Those paint comparisons looks excruciatingly painful to look at. Just use thumbnails and tables. Stretched out pixelized images full of jpg artifacts are for people with a geosites account, not gtaf.

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