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joelzaar

Pink Floyd topic

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Blind Joe Death

 

I also like Obscured by Clouds, but it seems to be one of the least known albums. sad.gif

I have acctually been listening to it quite a bit these last few days and I'll have to agree, it's a great album. I also played through The Final Cut for the first time today and loved it also.

 

I recognized one of the songs from The Final Cut album featured on "The Wall" film.

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I recognized one of the songs from The Final Cut album featured on "The Wall" film.

When The Tigers Broke Free...originally meant to be on the Wall but cut for some reason...turned out to fit nicely in with TFC's theme.

 

The Final Cut is probably one of my favorite albums of all time. so much emotion in that record.

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I am a major, MAJOR PF fan and I thought I'd contribute as well... I bought a good number of bootlegs from the band that grew a detest to such things when The Dark Side Of the Moon was released. Many early 1970s shows featured long improv versions of soon to be standard LP tracks...Like Raving and Drooling, Murderous Woman, and The Violent Sequence.

 

If you follow this band with a passion, you likely have David Gilmour's solo recordings as well as Roger Waters, Maybe one or more of Richard Wright's and Nick Mason's as well. Perhaps even bought Nick Mason's beautiful book on the subject. There are two soundtrack LPs filled with the Floyd... Obscured by Clouds and More...both chosen by director Barbet Schoeder for his films. Both disliked by the Floyd, but loved by me, in particular. They were made to make money, no more, no less. The movie Zabriskie Point featured some rough mixes as well and they are out there if you look.

 

If not, you should... Since they formed in 1965, They turned the music world on it's ear, as coming from the English school of architecture, they approached music in a rather avante garde manner. In a sense, as Mason tells it... constructing their music as if building and designing something of a structure, with their studies in mind.

 

After the success so early on of Dark Side, their internal struggles actually threatened to halt this amazing musical force. They literally struggled over years to put out three more amazing LPs; Wish You Were Here, Animals and The Wall.

 

By the time 1984's Final Cut came out, the band could barely stand to look at each other, and of course, Roger took stabs at Gilmour, and Wright had left early in 1980 during the Wall fiasco.

 

In a major bootleg historical compilation entitled, Total Eclipse.... 4 CDs of rare tracks document the history along with a photo booklet. This booklet gives some very nice insight in short order for those not as familiar... The intro except is as follows...

 

 

 

The impropriety of the Haight-Asbury District of San francisco created the atmosphere where by the International Times and the London Underground sprang to life. As the first British newspaper, the IT or International Times, was developed by Barry Miles, he is known as the man behind Pink Floyd; a Visual Documentary by Omnibus Press) As well as John Hopkins, with the intention of discerning the cultural rise of psychedelia. After pulling together a sizable staff, and gaining a few short term loans, Miles and Hopkins were ready to launch their newspaper. Utilizing North London's The Roundhouse, AND the inexperienced services of a band called The Pink Floyd Sound, IT, was set into motion in October 1966.

Not long after it's first issue, however, IT began to lose money. Sensing an end to the magazine, John Hopkins teamed up with Joe Boyd (who later was keenly tied to the early Floyd and Syd (Barrett)) and opened the Friday night UFO club, which was actually pronounced 'Ew-Foe' by the BBC! Also interesting to note, the UFO club was so famous, the British rock band UFO, who are also mentioned quite a lot by me personally, were named after this very venue in London, where they all came from.

UFO, the club, stood for "Unlimited Freak Out", and resided in West London. It provided John and Barry with funds for IT, and Pink Floyd, then named after Syd's appreciation; Pink Anderson and Floyd Council, two lesser known Georgia Bluesmen.  Billed as London's Farthest out group, Pink Floyd played UFO's opening night to quickly become the House Favorite. That night's extended musical improvisation and experimental light show proceeded to set the stage for a multimedia musical event that would change the world's perception of a performance.

Previously called, Sigma-6, T-set, The Meggadeaths, the Architectural Abdabs and the Screaming Abdabs as well as The Abdabs, Pink Floyd became the chosen name that fit so well and left people wondering Which one's Pink for MANY years.

 

Originally Roger Waters played guitar, then demoted to playing rhythm and then, eventually bass. At first, Rick Wright played guitar before taking up keys..Clive Metcalf on bass and Bob Close had joined the same time as Syd and Roger moving down to bass. Close left soon after, although still around, they had some issues as well, but style is cited here for the leaving. Nick Mason, who wrote the book Inside Out on PF, was always the drummer and tells in his book all about growing up as kids and meeting in school, it's fascinating stuff.

Barrett's LSD intake quickly overtook his ability to perform and tour with a band getting a lot of attention due to a very risque single entitled "Arnold Layne"!

In 1967, fall of that year, Both David Gilmour and Syd Roger Barrett performed in the Floyd. Dave grew up with Syd and was teaching him things on the guitar, in fact. (I'm adding additional info to the book text, to fill out some of it.) Pink Floyd were signed by EMI Records in '67. The aforementioned single was released and drew controversy over it's lyrics, though even today, it stands up as a great song in it's own right. The Magic of Syd infused the band in the same way Hendrix did with his vast output in so few years.

 

Also in 67, Floyd released their second single "See Emily Play", along with their first full record; Piper At the Gates of Dawn. Their first tour of the USA happened in short succession and Syd's declining health became a deterring factor. Many odd stories of his final days as a public artist remain, sadly, he never recovered and PF quietly ousted him from their lineup one day enroute to a gig.

Pat Boone attempted to interview Syd in fall 67, and recieved only a blank stare in return....as one example goes. The day after the infamous American Bandstand performance took place, sadly, Syd was in a drug induced state.

A Saucerful of Secrets came the following year, in 1968. In April, Syd was no longer in the band, but his presence resides in those recordings and attempts he made as a solo artist with two records helped along by Wright and Gilmour in the studio. He also had some BBC sessions released of even more material, and an album entitled Opal.

 

Before Syd left, the managers of PF were split on who to back, Without Barrett, they felt the band was doomed. They soldiered on with Meddle and Atom Heart Mother, as well as Ummagumma, a fan favorite of live and studio solo tracks from each member. The band hated this solo idea, though Roger Waters insisted, in a way, it forced them to think creatively on their own however.

With Ron Geeson, the band forged new territory on Atom Heart Mother, while also joining up with Storm Thorgerson and Hipgnosis... Who, after many years creating amazing artwork, crafted albums that even know hold iconic weight of their own. This happened to include the band UFO's covers as well.

Storm has been a very close friend of the band since their youth.

 

Well, a basis to cover the early Floyd for ya, I collected about all I could afford to get my hands on, including soundtracks like When the Wind Blows from 1986, circa.

That one featured a very nice David Bowie song as well.

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joelzaar

Lets try to keep the drug reference to a low ok, any drug related stories or thought should go to the stoner forum.

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Slamman

Don't get me started on Mr. Digital Evil. He's acting like a total prick, and has about banned me from his thread. I don't care to partake in those discussions. I am laying truth to what little drug use the band was involved with, it didn't effect them the way LSD did Syd. I'd probably see DE saying it wasn't LSD, it was Syd's personal choice of this or that, or he was pre-destined to take massive quantities to reach a new plane of existance. I just don't want to be debating that over and over. It's true everyone who enjoyed access to the RnR lifestyle might have had some libations of some sort.

 

When I had read on the Toxic Twins (Aerosmith) cleaning up their act, Dave Mustaine cleaning up his, I was quietly praising them for it because they DID realize for themselves how it had control of their lives in a bad way.

 

Regardless, get as many Pink Floyd bootlegs as you can, because each one is packed with audible hours of enjoyment and pleasure. I love it to no end!

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I didn't get into Pink Floyd until well after Pulse, but I'm a huge fan and have been ever since. I'm sitting here baking (ahem) in my DSOTM Tshirt. I don't have all the albums, but a heck of a lot. Obscured By Clouds is fantastic. Everything they did is fantastic. I'm more keen on the modern stuff I guess, but I have Piper and Syd is very much part of the legacy of the band.

 

I would say The Wall is my favourite album, because it said so much to me. It helped me get through some tough times. The movie is awesome and every live show they've ever done never disappoints. Fantastic stuff.

 

APF are an awesome tribute band, probably the best. I've seen others, but I believe that APF are so authentic, they insist on using the same speaker cables as the band. Now that's dedication! Their lights are pretty decent too. A must see for any fan.

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I f*cking love that guitar intro to shine on you crazy diamond.

best solo ever

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There's not a lot else to add other than I LOVE Pink Floyd...

 

I've seen the Australian Pink Floyd Show at Dudley Castle last year sometime. Perfect weather, perfect surroundings (the old stone walls made for some really perfect acoustics, slightly echoey and it complimented superbly with the Floyd songs), perfect show note for note AND atmospherics such as pyro, lighting etc.

 

It was an outstanding experience in my life, and being only 22 I'm kinda gutted I perhaps was a bit young to be into PF at their prime... But I can still live the dream through my headphones.

 

Another thing, if you love Pink Floyd, and also love Dream Theater or are just interested in PF cover work, then check out Dream Theater's Dark Side Of The Moon live DVD and CD bootlegs. They covered the entire album live (incidentally recorded the night before I saw them in Worcester), and as PF are such a big influence on them, they made a pretty faithful representation of the album, complete with the videoscreens showing images that were originally screened by PF in their live shows. Sure, there's the occasional standard Dream Theater w*nkery but it is does in a tasteful way imo.

 

In short, I love the DVD. It fuses together two bands I adore. inlove.gif

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Slamman

Did I already mention the hard rock albums you might have seen in record stores?

I wound up buying all of them. Bruce Kulick of KISS fame has a brother named Bob. He helped man the project of an all star tribute. They actually did this same thing for Van Halen and KISS as well.

 

Michael Schenker even plays guitar on Money, if I recall.

 

The OOP release has a great mixed bag with a long artsy title like Storm's work with the Floyd. When they compiled the Wall tracks to remake the album, it was put out as Back To The Wall. Such a winner title, you have to say.

 

The same mix of the various albums was released to 5.1 channel DVD as music with computer aided visuals, though just play the audio in your receiver and you get the intended effect. It really keeps the Floyd vibe fresh.

 

Is the a similar thread like this for Rolling Stones fans??

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Digïtál £vîl

At least Slamman finally found the right topic to post in.

 

You didn't post for a whole day, we thought you might have gone and killed yourself or something. Or maybe tried to go get a job. The latter came to mind only after the former was considered.

 

 

 

On topic: Pink Floyd does kick ass. I have all of their albums, although they have all been digitally converted. I've listened to them every since I was young though. Great music.

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Xo4

Abso-f*cking-lutley Amazing.

 

That is all I need to say.

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Blind Joe Death

Holy sh*t man, I am so f*cking jealous of your signature.

 

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edit: All Pink Floyd fans should know where my signature comes from.

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Holy sh*t man, I am so f*cking jealous of your signature.

 

One of my first signature when I got to the forums....

I still love whoever made it.

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What's people's view on cover versions? I don't mean tribute bands, because obviously they understand what Floyd is about and are trying (some more successfully than others) to bring PF to the new gens like me, who've never seen the boys live.

 

Personally I generally don't like them, but there are some good ones. Scissor Sisters' version of Comfortably Numb is just atrocious and offensive, and no matter what other songs they do (and I grudgingly admit some of them are good songs in their own right) I will never forgive them for what they did to that song.

 

However, Dar Williams' version really deserves to be listened to. I have it on my Ipod. I have no idea who she is, but it's a different take on the song and lovely. Hayseed Dixie's country version is absolutely hilarious and I have that too. So I guess there are some great covers, but Scissor Sisters deserve banishing.

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Blind Joe Death

Easy Star All-Stars did a great cover album of Pink Floyd's DSotM, calling it Dub Side of the Moon and added their reggae touch to it. All Pink Floyd fans should check it out, it's great.

 

I haven't heard Comfortably Numb by Scissor Sisters but something tells me I don't really want to.

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I think I've heard Dub Side, but I can't really remember it. As for Scissor Sisters....try and imagine if the Bee Gees covered it.

 

On second thoughts, don't. smile.gif

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Easy Star All-Stars did a great cover album of Pink Floyd's DSotM, calling it Dub Side of the Moon and added their reggae touch to it. All Pink Floyd fans should check it out, it's great.

 

I haven't heard Comfortably Numb by Scissor Sisters but something tells me I don't really want to.

I can ensure you you don't want to. wink.gif

 

Dub Side of the Moon is pretty cool. I never really heard any other covers/tributes to Floyd though, or maybe I just don't remember...

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I was on the Topica mailing list for Floyd fans when the Scissor Sisters cover was news. I never got the nerve to hear it either. The symphonic Floyd doesn't appeal to me much, preferring the Ron Geesin orchestral touches within the Floyd. You guys should read the back story on Atom Heart Mother, amazing work that was, very original, still love it!!!

 

I would also mention a metallized version of The Nile Song from the late 1980s. The Necros is the band if I recall!! Back when you could by LP single 45s in the store!

 

I rather like it, from memory alone! I forgot the other cover used in the film, The Bank Job or something, with the MiniCooper car chase and featuring Mark Wahlberg.

Hi to Digital Evil, at least you like something we can agree on. I will have to have a job at some point so don't worry too much about it. tounge2.gif

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Breaking Bohan
Did I already mention the hard rock albums you might have seen in record stores?

I wound up buying all of them. Bruce Kulick of KISS fame has a brother named Bob. He helped man the project of an all star tribute. They actually did this same thing for Van Halen and KISS as well.

 

Michael Schenker even plays guitar on Money, if I recall.

 

The OOP release has a great mixed bag with a long artsy title like Storm's work with the Floyd. When they compiled the Wall tracks to remake the album, it was put out as Back To The Wall. Such a winner title, you have to say.

 

The same mix of the various albums was released to 5.1 channel DVD as music with computer aided visuals, though just play the audio in your receiver and you get the intended effect. It really keeps the Floyd vibe fresh.

 

Is the a similar thread like this for Rolling Stones fans??

Slamman,

Hey, do you happen to own "Total Eclipse"? If so is did it come in like a circular box and also contain a T-shirt inside also? I had a friend who purchased this awesome box set of rare pink floyd tracks, but that was at least 10 years ago and I can't remember if that is what it was called. He paid like $150 for it at the time ... (I unfortunately was like 30 bucks short) ... but it was well worth it!

 

Does anyone have "Early Singles" or "Mixed in the Moon" - which are bootleg albums, or they were, if not I would highly recommend for serious fans.

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What's on Total Eclipse? I've got A Treeful of Secrets, which is just amazing. 18 CDs worth of rare stuff. I haven't listened to it all, but it's well worth checking out.

 

Had a listen to a bit of Dub Side over at Amazon today. I don't think I like it to be honest. I see the point they were making, and some of it sounds quite faithful, but man, where's the Gilmour solo? Doesn't really do it for me I'm afraid.

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What's on Total Eclipse? I've got A Treeful of Secrets, which is just amazing. 18 CDs worth of rare stuff. I haven't listened to it all, but it's well worth checking out.

 

Had a listen to a bit of Dub Side over at Amazon today. I don't think I like it to be honest. I see the point they were making, and some of it sounds quite faithful, but man, where's the Gilmour solo? Doesn't really do it for me I'm afraid.

18 disks! WOW - well, it just had a great many live tracks that you couldn't get anywhere else, T shirt, album art, etc. It was rare here - but it may be more common in the UK.

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Did I already mention the hard rock albums you might have seen in record stores?

I wound up buying all of them. Bruce Kulick of KISS fame has a brother named Bob. He helped man the project of an all star tribute. They actually did this same thing for Van Halen and KISS as well.

 

Michael Schenker even plays guitar on Money, if I recall.

 

The OOP release has a great mixed bag with a long artsy title like Storm's work with the Floyd. When they compiled the Wall tracks to remake the album, it was put out as Back To The Wall. Such a winner title, you have to say.

 

The same mix of the various albums was released to 5.1 channel DVD as music with computer aided visuals, though just play the audio in your receiver and you get the intended effect. It really keeps the Floyd vibe fresh.

 

Is the a similar thread like this for Rolling Stones fans??

Slamman,

Hey, do you happen to own "Total Eclipse"? If so is did it come in like a circular box and also contain a T-shirt inside also? I had a friend who purchased this awesome box set of rare pink floyd tracks, but that was at least 10 years ago and I can't remember if that is what it was called. He paid like $150 for it at the time ... (I unfortunately was like 30 bucks short) ... but it was well worth it!

 

Does anyone have "Early Singles" or "Mixed in the Moon" - which are bootleg albums, or they were, if not I would highly recommend for serious fans.

Total Eclipse I think I mentioned in the first post on here,

Green box with handdrawn art, Plastic injection molding, no T-shirt. A mix of live and alternative cuts from Arnold Layne on up to the 1990 Knebworth appearence.

 

I was able to get a similar 4 CD box set of The Rolling Stones studio cuts. There is a companion 4 disc set of live cuts. Haven't seen it recently, but I could stand to own that! These are highly treasured 'boots'.

 

There are a few Zeppelin, Van Halen and Floyd recordings done by fans that I added to my little collection.

One of VH is all little guitar bits that formed into the huge hit songs we all know. From those bits of guitar you can just imagine all the recordings Eddie has in his collection. He admits there are tons.

 

They cleaned out the various Zep boots, but the Floyd ones are still around, some French TV clips came up on YT not long ago, as I recall.

 

Here's how my TE stacks up in terms of tracks;

It's put out by Great Dane who also do the Rolling Stones box, very pro package, best I've EVER seen! (the Stones in this case)

Order number listed in the manual, GRD CD 9320

A. Layne (singles and B-sides)/ Candy and a Currant Bun

See Emily Play/ Flaming / Scarecrow/ the Gnome / Matilda Mother

{mysteriously absent is the much loved "Lucifer Sam" at this point}

Scream Thy Last Scream (Old Woman with a Casket) Syd at his best!

Vegetable Man/ Apples and Oranges / Pow R Toc H (cut too short!)

Jugband Blues / Nick's Boogie from Let's All Make Love in London Tonight (Peter Whitehead film widely found in release)

It Would be So Nice (my favorite of these singles I think!!)

Julia Dream/ Let There Be more Light (Fantastic!!) / Murderistic Woman (early version instrumental)

Massed Gadgets of Hercules/ Point me At the Sky (another Winner!)

Baby Blue Shuffle in D Minor (early jam of a more familiar recording)

 

The Embryo / Green is The Colour (love this too)/ The Narrow Way (Gilmour's added the solo to this in recent live shows)

Biding My Time (Work)/ Oneone / Fingal's Cave (Zabriskie Point Antoniani film) / Rain in the Country

The Violence Sequence demo (Us and Them!!) / If / Cymboline

I'll add that the middle sequence where music stops and footsteps are heard is or has been explained as part of the live show used to demonstrate a 5.1 surround effect staged in various auditoriums. Though I have no idea the visual elements, I never saw it performed either so I was always curious about it.

 

Atom Heart Mother live/ Blues / Breathe/ On the Run/ Great Gig in the Sky

Money (original demo by Waters in acoustic)/ Brain Damage/ Eclipse

Shine on you Crazy Diamond, live with Dick PArry, although not mentioned... I read that Gilmour turned to Parry as the only guy he knew to play sax and come to join in on recording, his famed contribution made him World Famous because of DSOTM.

Raving and Drooling / You've Gotta be Crazy / Echoes

Those first two are demo live works for Animals, of course, very rough too!

Pigs on the Wing with Snowy White adding guitar bridge solo for the 8-track tape mix (used to source this!) / Comfortably Numb ...which is a guitar demo used by Gilmour to build upon, so beautiful, I love this bit of excellence!!!

When The Tigers Broke Free/ Mother

...taken from the Wall Laserdisc as there was no DVD to base it from.

What Shall We Do Now/ Bring the boys back Home/ Outside the Wall

Hero's Return demo alt. version parts 1 / 2

Run Like Hell and Money, RLH taken from Atlanta show in 87.

Noted in the booklet, On The Turning Away was also from this and released as a single, yet was not on these discs, and I miss it, quite frankly. I love that song as well, the highlight of 87's

Momentary Lapse of Reason/Delicate Sound of Thunder.

The live version intro is so memorable.

Also would say that is the strongest post Waters Floyd, but PULSE being live, the better version of old songs. colgate.gifcool.gif

 

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Breaking Bohan

I was curious to know does anyone actually buy physical CD's anymore?

I began purchasing their CD's about 13 years ago (before we could just get everything off the net for free), but in addition to the amazing music, there was generally something cool/charming contained in the case. I wonder if some of this charm would be lost if I had just downloaded everything off the internet ... probably ... but I may still have done it anyways lol.gif

 

Seriously, though, PF seemed to have some talent in knowing how to present their work/art!

I wish someone could find some "lost recordings" or something like that so I could experience some vintage Floyd for the first time ...

 

@Slamman - I may have to search Frostwire for a few of those songs, which I may not have! ( Murderistic Woman (early version instrumental)

Massed Gadgets of Hercules, Vegetable Man, etc.) ... I'm now inspired to experience Floyd anew! icon14.gif

 

 

ASIDE: Does anyone know of a good program to convert WMA files into MP3 files? Thanks!

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I do, but I shop used versus new...no surprise there. I make digital backups for my MDs as an example, or just to play on a laptop or the PSP system.

 

Most of these classic bootlegs exist on LP 12" records, and not CDs, but some made it to CD.

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Easy Star All-Stars did a great cover album of Pink Floyd's DSotM, calling it Dub Side of the Moon and added their reggae touch to it. All Pink Floyd fans should check it out, it's great.

 

I haven't heard Comfortably Numb by Scissor Sisters but something tells me I don't really want to.

Dub Side of the Moon is an amazing record. I love it!

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just another thug

I don't know, but I think of Pink Floyd as like two different bands. Before DSotM and after. Lately, I've been all about the Ummagumma Live album.

 

But uh, watching Live At Pompeii stoned the other night was a treat.

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Having Live at Pompeii and P.U.L.S.E. in ones collection is imperative as a Floyd fan.

Got Remember That Night on BluRay but I only enjoyed part of it because of GTA4 being in my PS3 all the time. It is a real treat as well.

I kind of seperate PF when it comes to Syd fronting the band, they had their own direction via his creativity, then Roger, Dave, and Rick forged shared singing and writing on further albums. They really appeared to work good as whole, despite the internal strife.

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Eh, is this bullsh*t or the real deal? I can't believe I haven't heard about it before.

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The infamous backwards masked message in The Wall?

 

Well, it shows you need to brush up on your Floyd knowledge! It's been known for ages and a day.

 

Roger Waters commented in the 1980s on Rockline that it was "all just a bit of fun in the South of France, one day"

Might have been Gilmour who said that, they both appeared on Bob Colburn's Rockline over the years.

I recorded any interview I could for my collections. I haven't heard a radio interview since Gilmour commented after the break up...before Live8

 

The location is close to a studio owned by Rupert Hines, and he gets bags of mail to this day... that Roger Waters did say.

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My Floyd knowledge is just fine thank you, so no brushing is to be needed over here.

 

On a separate note - I just got back from my mates house and he has just recently bought an incredible stereo system, I think it's BOSE. But anyway, he's also a Pink Floyd fanatic so we played through Dark Side of the Moon and it sounded incredible. I can't stress to you all how crystal clear the sound quality was, we were both totally blown away.

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