Deathmatch

[theonlym12]

i have a few issues i need solved....

 

1. auto-aim- what the hell does it matter if its on or off...

 

2. campers- why would you spend more time hiding around a corner or on top of a building than you would running around killing people

 

3. respawn- why do people use the entire liberty city map and then set the spawn for medium 5sec and have about 4 or 5 people in the room.

 

4. reason to kick- honestly people have tried to kick me because i got to many kills. people have tried to kick me for no reason. people try to kick other people for no reason at all...

 

 

now if any one has any opinion on any of the things above please leave your feedback....

Edited June 12, 2008 by theonlym12

[tootricky]

1. People have preferences.

2. Some people (like me) get a warm fuzzy feeling from NOT getting killed. In TDM this is as much an important skill as killing people is.

3. Laziness? They've not played the game much? Who knows.

4. Most people kick for griefing.. Do you teabag people? Take the piss down the mic? If you do that's why you get kicked. In our gang, if one kicks the others kick.

 

You can't count.

[krammer]

1. People have preferences.

2. Some people (like me) get a warm fuzzy feeling from NOT getting killed. In TDM this is as much an important skill as killing people is.

3. Laziness? They've not played the game much? Who knows.

4. Most people kick for griefing.. Do you teabag people? Take the piss down the mic? If you do that's why you get kicked. In our gang, if one kicks the others kick.

 

You can't count.

that is the smartest post i have read in the entire forums. no joke

[Lazlo_Panaflex]

with regards to this one....

 

Sometimes a best offense is a good defense.

 

I have played games where people run around like a crazed badger on acid...and I just sat there and picked off players one at a time.

 

The aim of DM is to kill as many people as possible, is it not?

[derelix]

I am not one of those jerks who say auto aim takes no skill but i do not join auto aim games because i just do not have fun in them

[Greslin]

1. Turning off autoaim makes it almost a completely different game, both in single player and multi. But I disagree that AA takes the skill out of the game - it just shifts the skill needs around. Most AA shots go wide or are just plain imbalanced and miss, so to get good at AA you still have to know how to manually aim and zoom and sharpshoot. Without AA, it's a slow and sneaky stalking game.. kinda like the sniper boss battle in MGS3, IMO. Just two different ways to play, neither one better than the other.

 

(Aside, I love the AA guys who figure that since they're playing with AA on and have an assault rifle, they can't lose. So they run around blasting full on anything they can lock on, not getting that they're not hitting anything because the shots are going wide as they can't lay off the damned trigger. If they zoomed and actually watched what they were shooting, they'd see that the reticule isn't often actually ON their target. So they come here and complain that the other guys must be cheating. Hilarious.)

 

2. Because running around like an idiot means you get killed early and often and some folks don't enjoy that.

 

3. The same reason people launch $50K-win pistol-only TDMs. Some people are retarded. A lot of people, actually.

 

4. See #3.

 

[derelix]

1. Turning off autoaim makes it almost a completely different game, both in single player and multi. But I disagree that AA takes the skill out of the game - it just shifts the skill needs around. Most AA shots go wide or are just plain imbalanced and miss, so to get good at AA you still have to know how to manually aim and zoom and sharpshoot. Without AA, it's a slow and sneaky stalking game.. kinda like the sniper boss battle in MGS3, IMO. Just two different ways to play, neither one better than the other.

 

(Aside, I love the AA guys who figure that since they're playing with AA on and have an assault rifle, they can't lose. So they run around blasting full on anything they can lock on, not getting that they're not hitting anything because the shots are going wide as they can't lay off the damned trigger. If they zoomed and actually watched what they were shooting, they'd see that the reticule isn't often actually ON their target. So they come here and complain that the other guys must be cheating. Hilarious.)

 

exactly

[Leftcoast]

 

You can't count.

 

Yah, I think this pretty much explains why Bush got "elected".

 

 

[Coltrane's Muse]

 

i have a few issues i need solved....

 

1. auto-aim- what the hell does it matter if its on or off...

 

2. campers- why would you spend more time hiding around a corner or on top of a building than you would running around killing people

 

3. respawn- why do people use the entire liberty city map and then set the spawn for medium 5sec and have about 4 or 5 people in the room.

 

5. reason to kick- honestly people have tried to kick me because i got to many kills. people have tried to kick me for no reason. people try to kick other people for no reason at all...

 

 

now if any one has any opinion on any of the things above please leave your feedback....

1.) Simple: it separates the "men" from the "boys". Any idiot can lock onto an opponent and manage an easy head/torso shot; not many can do the same when a target that is in constant motion bobs and weaves in between parked vehicles and they must train the cursor on them the entire time this is transpiring sans the aid of the CPU. Disagree? Try it sometime....you'd be amazed at the difficulty.

 

2.) Because this, in my opinion, is the safest option available to the less skilled, myself included. If I'm out in the open (even if constantly moving) without any sort of cover whatsoever, I'm a dead duck. Plain and simple. "Camping out" gives those such as myself an advantage I wouldn't otherwise have.

 

3.) This I wouldn't have a clue as to how to effectively respond to. I've never had the displeasure of playing a city-wide death match, and to be honest, I never plan to. It is bad enough that I rarely play the mode to begin with, unless invited to do so. So, in short, I have no earthly idea.

 

4.) Skills? How so? Unchecked hubris will get you nowhere, and nine times out of ten it will only lead to thorough embarrassment.

[Tower47]

You can't count.

 

Yah, I think this pretty much explains why Bush got "elected".

Now it all makes sense!

[Coltrane's Muse]

The concept of "voting" is a complete and utter joke considering our species' propensity for stupidity.

[Lazlo_Panaflex]

3.) This I wouldn't have a clue as to how to effectively respond to. I've never had the displeasure of playing a city-wide death match, and to be honest, I never plan to. It is bad enough that I rarely play the mode to begin with, unless invited to do so. So, in short, I have no earthly idea.

 

 

I played an hour long city-wide DM last night with 14 or so players. Respawn was set to medium...so players usually spawned within a close proximity of each other.

 

It did enable most players to get decent weapons and armour which made for some pretty darn good firefights. I really enjoy taking on a couple of players when we all have assault rifles, RPG's, SMG's and grenades in our arsenal.

 

The fight started off in Alonquin but ended up in Bohan due to player stalking each other.

 

It was actually quite a bit of fun

[derelix]

i have a few issues i need solved....

 

1. auto-aim- what the hell does it matter if its on or off...

 

2. campers- why would you spend more time hiding around a corner or on top of a building than you would running around killing people

 

3. respawn- why do people use the entire liberty city map and then set the spawn for medium 5sec and have about 4 or 5 people in the room.

 

5. reason to kick- honestly people have tried to kick me because i got to many kills. people have tried to kick me for no reason. people try to kick other people for no reason at all...

 

 

now if any one has any opinion on any of the things above please leave your feedback....

1.) Simple: it separates the "men" from the "boys". Any idiot can lock onto an opponent and manage an easy head/torso shot; not many can do the same when a target that is in constant motion bobs and weaves in between parked vehicles and they must train the cursor on them the entire time this is transpiring sans the aid of the CPU. Disagree? Try it sometime....you'd be amazed at the difficulty.

 

no it just makes it a different game

i could say that any idiot can strafe but it takes skill to avoid and take cover against somebody who is locking on you.

[nealmac]

i have a few issues i need solved....

 

1. auto-aim- what the hell does it matter if its on or off...

 

2. campers- why would you spend more time hiding around a corner or on top of a building than you would running around killing people

 

3. respawn- why do people use the entire liberty city map and then set the spawn for medium 5sec and have about 4 or 5 people in the room.

 

5. reason to kick- honestly people have tried to kick me because i got to many kills. people have tried to kick me for no reason. people try to kick other people for no reason at all...

 

 

now if any one has any opinion on any of the things above please leave your feedback....

1. Yes. Exactly. What does it matter? Agree 100%

 

2. The reason people camp, is so that they don't get killed, or more to the point, lose that RPG, or AK47 that they went to the trouble of finding. Even body armour gets lost when you die.

 

3. I hate multiplayer on the entire map, because there are retards that set the game for $10000 limit, or an hour long, and people get bored and end up having a free roam session. I rather a small closed environment, with short games.

 

5. No idea. I have never voted to kick anyone yet, and no one has ever voted to kick me either, and I intend to keep it that way if I can.

[nealmac]

 

1.) Simple: it separates the "men" from the "boys". Any idiot can lock onto an opponent and manage an easy head/torso shot; not many can do the same when a target that is in constant motion bobs and weaves in between parked vehicles and they must train the cursor on them the entire time this is transpiring sans the aid of the CPU. Disagree? Try it sometime....you'd be amazed at the difficulty.

 

You are a retard. Yes, turning off auto aim makes aiming more difficult, but guess what? It makes it more difficult for everyone else too. When AA is on, it's not just a case of "Any idiot can lock onto an opponent and manage an easy head/torso shot" as you say. You have to remember anyone else can do the same to you. So things are still evenly matched. It has nothing to do with the "men and the boys". It makes a different type of game.

Edited June 11, 2008 by nealmac

[theonlym12]

ok in response to everyone...

 

auto aim- nealmac got it pretty much got it.. regardless if its on everyone has the same advantage of being able to lock on to each other and it would take more skill to outrun someone that has a perfect lock on to you than it would to manually aim at someone thats running around

 

camping- I DONT CAMP!!! I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT!!! even though i dont camp AT ALL i still end up in the end with the least amount of deaths and the most kills... why? because i have skill.... anyone one can hide and kill people like a punk but it take some kind of skill to run around that corner when you know that other person is waiting for you.

 

respawn- theres just some idiots out there... we can drop this subject

 

kicking- ^^same reason^^

[Lazlo_Panaflex]

I don't camp as much as sneak around like a peeping tom with an M4.

 

Depending on the skill levels of the people I am playing I'll either seek them out (playing n00bs) or hide and ambush (more experienced players).

 

Camping can lead to predictability which leads to BANG!

 

Am I alone in the fact I hate snipers and getting sniped?

[theonlym12]

I don't camp as much as sneak around like a peeping tom with an M4.

 

Depending on the skill levels of the people I am playing I'll either seek them out (playing n00bs) or hide and ambush (more experienced players).

 

Camping can lead to predictability which leads to BANG!

 

Am I alone in the fact I hate snipers and getting sniped?

i hate snipers 2 cuz they ARE the definition of a camper and i love killing snipers...

[Lazlo_Panaflex]

When I get sniped...I go out of my way to find the sniper and hunt him down.

 

There's also something satisfying about blasting a sniper out of his hiding place with a well placed RPG.

[tj11]

When I get sniped...I go out of my way to find the sniper and hunt him down.

 

There's also something satisfying about blasting a sniper out of his hiding place with a well placed RPG.

Yeah, same here!...Or an M4.

I hate snipers too!

[SuperJude™]

AA - my only qualm now with it is that after a few AA games, I'm comletely retarded for the first 5 minutes of a non-AA game. Totally different skill set. AA is all about timing, non-AA is all about patience. By that I mean, even in the midst of a gun battle, the calm guy usually wins. Kind of the same with AA cept hiding spots don't count for much. I have to wonder how many n00bs did a self high-five after killing me because they hit the AA button and it locked onto me

 

Still and all, if AA was easy, everybody would be averaging 40-60 kills. They don't, 'nuff said. I sure wish the SOCOM people would STFU already about the "right" way to play a game where the whole goddamn point is there is no right way to do it.

 

Camping - unless you have a high kill ratio spot, I'd rather run to the action and rack up kills, plain and simple. My buddy likes to creep/camp even in AA games. He gets 25-35 kills, I get 40-60 (in a regular game with at least 8 players). So yeah, who cares about dying as long as your kill ration is up there.

 

Respawn - yup, idiots out there with no clue how to set up a fun game. I mean...5 minutes Liberty City respawn medium 5 seconds, what's the poin? None, I leave the room.

 

Kicking - who knows, been kicked for killing too many people, for having AA off, for having blips far. Almost got kicked tonight because I hadn't turned my bluetooth on yet

[theonlym12]

AA - my only qualm now with it is that after a few AA games, I'm comletely retarded for the first 5 minutes of a non-AA game. Totally different skill set. AA is all about timing, non-AA is all about patience. By that I mean, even in the midst of a gun battle, the calm guy usually wins. Kind of the same with AA cept hiding spots don't count for much. I have to wonder how many n00bs did a self high-five after killing me because they hit the AA button and it locked onto me

 

Still and all, if AA was easy, everybody would be averaging 40-60 kills. They don't, 'nuff said. I sure wish the SOCOM people would STFU already about the "right" way to play a game where the whole goddamn point is there is no right way to do it.

 

Camping - unless you have a high kill ratio spot, I'd rather run to the action and rack up kills, plain and simple. My buddy likes to creep/camp even in AA games. He gets 25-35 kills, I get 40-60 (in a regular game with at least 8 players). So yeah, who cares about dying as long as your kill ration is up there.

 

Respawn - yup, idiots out there with no clue how to set up a fun game. I mean...5 minutes Liberty City respawn medium 5 seconds, what's the poin? None, I leave the room.

 

Kicking - who knows, been kicked for killing too many people, for having AA off, for having blips far. Almost got kicked tonight because I hadn't turned my bluetooth on yet

AA- so are u an anti-AA person or do you care if its on or off?

 

camping- the way i see it camping isnt an acceptable way of gameplay. like you said there is no right way to play but theres a limit. idk if the developer had in mind that when people play this game we want them to sit in one place and attempt to pick people off one by one. theres so much map to use why just sit in one spot. for all the games ive ben in, the people that camp NEVER win. they always end up with the least deaths in the end but at the same time they also end up with the least kills too.

 

respawn- that issue can be put to rest.... there are some idiots that just dont learn...

[SuperJude™]

I play AA and non AA games, pretty much whichever room is somewhat active I'm down for unless it's rocket launchers. I enjoy the f*ck out of AA games just like I do non-AA games. Methinks some gamers confuse which game their playing, but gaming has always been this way online: those who do it one way think it's the only way. Some of us just enjoy the fact we can kill people in multiplayer, regardless.