fallingpeople2 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Just something I've realized that could be another thing different with GTA IV. In the previous GTAs Claude, as far as I remember, he gets filthy rich. Tommy gets his giant mansion in VC. CJ has a whole gang behind him. And for Nikko, he doesn't really gain an empire or anything, he's still just a man on the streets. Heck, even the last safehouse you get isn't that nice. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Shaw Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 New to GTA IV. I think they made the wrong decision. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Vega-- Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I hate still being a nobody after you beat the game. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himuro Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Wanna be a balla shot caller 20 inch blades on the impala a caller getting laid tonight Swisher rolled tight, gotta sprayed by Ike I hit the HIIIGHWAY, making money the FLYYYY WAY But there's got to be a BETTER WAY! A BETTER WAY, A BETTER WAY, YEAHHHHHHH! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Bohan Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Yes - that is a key point, and it really doesn't make a lot of sense - and it certainly doesn't give you much to do after you beat the game. I think the game could be vastly improved if they would have included the option for you to spend your money on property and other things ... After the mission is complete there is just no sense of purpose left for Nikko (not even superficial ones) - like buying a hotel/house. Balls! It seems like these should have been fairly obvious and relatively easy options to include in the game (they've done it before) - and I think they would've added an additional layer to this game that is badly needed. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamesguru Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 And these don't count? Playboy X's Penthouse, Bernie's Infernus and Three Leaf Clover's $250,000. Some, people will never be happy. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATgoesPOP-pop-POP Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 of corse not Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWC Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 i think GTA4 has the more realistic rewards, its better than in other games, BANG i killed my arch-enemy, oh look a gazilion dollars appear magicly in my pocket Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC. Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Wanna be a ballashot caller 20 inch blades on the impala a caller getting laid tonight Swisher rolled tight, gotta sprayed by Ike I hit the HIIIGHWAY, making money the FLYYYY WAY But there's got to be a BETTER WAY! A BETTER WAY, A BETTER WAY, YEAHHHHHHH! lmao that song cracks me up, I thought it was like "Call her get laid tonight, better get it right if you gon eat steak tonight" anyway I heard that Rockstar was going for a rags to slightly better rags or something; it's kinda like GTA: 3, GTA: LCS and GTA: VCS because you don't get to buy any mansions or property. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitsbebop Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 They made it that way so you can feel like your in the "real world"...nobody would care for a immigrant with no gang...so doing this makes the player feel like he/she is in the real world with real people. It's no fun being in a game world where know you can beat everyone up and your above the law, everything would feel dead if it was that way again. I think they made the right decision. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
comerford Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Just kick the s*it out of anyone who doesn't respect you. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Garcia aka NjNakedSnake Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Well, Rstar made it clear a long time ago IV wasen't a "rags to riches" game. And that's only because IV is a revenge story. Niko came to Liberty to kill someone, not become a success. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fistinface Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 They made it that way so you can feel like your in the "real world"...nobody would care for a immigrant with no gang...so doing this makes the player feel like he/she is in the real world with real people. It's no fun being in a game world where know you can beat everyone up and your above the law, everything would feel dead if it was that way again. I think they made the right decision. But this affects the sandbox element of the game. After you've done everything there's nothing to keep you playing, unless you start a new game. But like i said, a sandbox game should be endless. When you complete all the main/side missions in GTA4 your left with shallow mini games. Now that's not my idea of a sandbox world game... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamesguru Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 But this affects the sandbox element of the game. After you've done everything there's nothing to keep you playing, unless you start a new game. But like i said, a sandbox game should be endless. When you complete all the main/side missions in GTA4 your left with shallow mini games. Now that's not my idea of a sandbox world game... You simply lack the imagination. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fistinface Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 But this affects the sandbox element of the game. After you've done everything there's nothing to keep you playing, unless you start a new game. But like i said, a sandbox game should be endless. When you complete all the main/side missions in GTA4 your left with shallow mini games. Now that's not my idea of a sandbox world game... You simply lack the imagination. Well then enlighten me, oh wise one. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058228903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimsLookLikeCocaCola Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 But this affects the sandbox element of the game. After you've done everything there's nothing to keep you playing, unless you start a new game. But like i said, a sandbox game should be endless. When you complete all the main/side missions in GTA4 your left with shallow mini games. Now that's not my idea of a sandbox world game... You simply lack the imagination. Well then enlighten me, oh wise one. Do what I do. Reenact a real life. When the game loads up hop into your Manana and drive respectivly to a Burger Shot and ask for a McGriddle then go to a building Algonquin and act like you are working as a social worker and then go to the projects and ask for Shamik Taylor and then act like the Black people there are against you and start a shootout. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Just something I've realized that could be another thing different with GTA IV. In the previous GTAs Claude, as far as I remember, he gets filthy rich. Tommy gets his giant mansion in VC. CJ has a whole gang behind him. And for Nikko, he doesn't really gain an empire or anything, he's still just a man on the streets. Heck, even the last safehouse you get isn't that nice. The story in GTA III actually is no different. So Claude gets millions of dollars, than what? He's still a no body, much like Niko is. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himuro Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 But this affects the sandbox element of the game. After you've done everything there's nothing to keep you playing, unless you start a new game. But like i said, a sandbox game should be endless. When you complete all the main/side missions in GTA4 your left with shallow mini games. Now that's not my idea of a sandbox world game... You simply lack the imagination. ahahahha add this to the fanboy list, wayninja Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayninja Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Just something I've realized that could be another thing different with GTA IV. In the previous GTAs Claude, as far as I remember, he gets filthy rich. Tommy gets his giant mansion in VC. CJ has a whole gang behind him. And for Nikko, he doesn't really gain an empire or anything, he's still just a man on the streets. Heck, even the last safehouse you get isn't that nice. The story in GTA III actually is no different. So Claude gets millions of dollars, than what? He's still a no body, much like Niko is. So, in effect, GTAIV is no better than GTAIII in this regard... A shame because IV should be 1 more than III. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himuro Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 The difference is that Rockstar did not advertise that GTAIII wouldn't be a rags to riches story like they did with IV. They said it wouldn't be for IV, and it turned out it was. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Just something I've realized that could be another thing different with GTA IV. In the previous GTAs Claude, as far as I remember, he gets filthy rich. Tommy gets his giant mansion in VC. CJ has a whole gang behind him. And for Nikko, he doesn't really gain an empire or anything, he's still just a man on the streets. Heck, even the last safehouse you get isn't that nice. The story in GTA III actually is no different. So Claude gets millions of dollars, than what? He's still a no body, much like Niko is. So, in effect, GTAIV is no better than GTAIII in this regard... A shame because IV should be 1 more than III. You do realize that in actual fact GTA IV is a proper sequel to GTA III? That's why there are so many similarities. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himuro Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Just something I've realized that could be another thing different with GTA IV. In the previous GTAs Claude, as far as I remember, he gets filthy rich. Tommy gets his giant mansion in VC. CJ has a whole gang behind him. And for Nikko, he doesn't really gain an empire or anything, he's still just a man on the streets. Heck, even the last safehouse you get isn't that nice. The story in GTA III actually is no different. So Claude gets millions of dollars, than what? He's still a no body, much like Niko is. So, in effect, GTAIV is no better than GTAIII in this regard... A shame because IV should be 1 more than III. You do realize that in actual fact GTA IV is a proper sequel to GTA III? That's why there are so many similarities. Except III has more things to do, a better story, more varied, memorable, creative and non linear mission structure. I hate how people compare IV to III. It's not like it at all. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayninja Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Just something I've realized that could be another thing different with GTA IV. In the previous GTAs Claude, as far as I remember, he gets filthy rich. Tommy gets his giant mansion in VC. CJ has a whole gang behind him. And for Nikko, he doesn't really gain an empire or anything, he's still just a man on the streets. Heck, even the last safehouse you get isn't that nice. The story in GTA III actually is no different. So Claude gets millions of dollars, than what? He's still a no body, much like Niko is. So, in effect, GTAIV is no better than GTAIII in this regard... A shame because IV should be 1 more than III. You do realize that in actual fact GTA IV is a proper sequel to GTA III? That's why there are so many similarities. Yep, I realize. My point was that it's shame that with so many years between the sequel and the 'original' this has not remedied. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenFire Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Just something I've realized that could be another thing different with GTA IV. In the previous GTAs Claude, as far as I remember, he gets filthy rich. Tommy gets his giant mansion in VC. CJ has a whole gang behind him. And for Nikko, he doesn't really gain an empire or anything, he's still just a man on the streets. Heck, even the last safehouse you get isn't that nice. The story in GTA III actually is no different. So Claude gets millions of dollars, than what? He's still a no body, much like Niko is. So, in effect, GTAIV is no better than GTAIII in this regard... A shame because IV should be 1 more than III. You do realize that in actual fact GTA IV is a proper sequel to GTA III? That's why there are so many similarities. Except III has more things to do, a better story, more varied, memorable, creative and non linear mission structure. I hate how people compare IV to III. It's not like it at all. More things to do? Like what? Name a list of things I can do in III that can't be done in IV. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayninja Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Just something I've realized that could be another thing different with GTA IV. In the previous GTAs Claude, as far as I remember, he gets filthy rich. Tommy gets his giant mansion in VC. CJ has a whole gang behind him. And for Nikko, he doesn't really gain an empire or anything, he's still just a man on the streets. Heck, even the last safehouse you get isn't that nice. The story in GTA III actually is no different. So Claude gets millions of dollars, than what? He's still a no body, much like Niko is. So, in effect, GTAIV is no better than GTAIII in this regard... A shame because IV should be 1 more than III. You do realize that in actual fact GTA IV is a proper sequel to GTA III? That's why there are so many similarities. Except III has more things to do, a better story, more varied, memorable, creative and non linear mission structure. I hate how people compare IV to III. It's not like it at all. More things to do? Like what? Name a list of things I can do in III that can't be done in IV. 1 word, 2 syllables. RAMPAGE!!!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himuro Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Just something I've realized that could be another thing different with GTA IV. In the previous GTAs Claude, as far as I remember, he gets filthy rich. Tommy gets his giant mansion in VC. CJ has a whole gang behind him. And for Nikko, he doesn't really gain an empire or anything, he's still just a man on the streets. Heck, even the last safehouse you get isn't that nice. The story in GTA III actually is no different. So Claude gets millions of dollars, than what? He's still a no body, much like Niko is. So, in effect, GTAIV is no better than GTAIII in this regard... A shame because IV should be 1 more than III. You do realize that in actual fact GTA IV is a proper sequel to GTA III? That's why there are so many similarities. Except III has more things to do, a better story, more varied, memorable, creative and non linear mission structure. I hate how people compare IV to III. It's not like it at all. More things to do? Like what? Name a list of things I can do in III that can't be done in IV. Rampages, taxi missions, ambulance missions, firetruck missions, rc missions, payphone missions, missions where you take specified cars to the docks - while they're similar to what Brucie offered in his car theft missions, they're far deeper and don't hold the players hand. On top of this, the missions were far more non linear, and open ended and weren't scripted, and the mission variety was absolutely insane. And then there's mastering the Dodo...among other things. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenFire Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Just something I've realized that could be another thing different with GTA IV. In the previous GTAs Claude, as far as I remember, he gets filthy rich. Tommy gets his giant mansion in VC. CJ has a whole gang behind him. And for Nikko, he doesn't really gain an empire or anything, he's still just a man on the streets. Heck, even the last safehouse you get isn't that nice. The story in GTA III actually is no different. So Claude gets millions of dollars, than what? He's still a no body, much like Niko is. So, in effect, GTAIV is no better than GTAIII in this regard... A shame because IV should be 1 more than III. You do realize that in actual fact GTA IV is a proper sequel to GTA III? That's why there are so many similarities. Except III has more things to do, a better story, more varied, memorable, creative and non linear mission structure. I hate how people compare IV to III. It's not like it at all. More things to do? Like what? Name a list of things I can do in III that can't be done in IV. Rampages, taxi missions, ambulance missions, firetruck missions, rc missions, payphone missions, missions where you take specified cars to the docks - while they're similar to what Brucie offered in his car theft missions, they're far deeper and don't hold the players hand. On top of this, the missions were far more non linear, and open ended and weren't scripted, and the mission variety was absolutely insane. And then there's mastering the Dodo...among other things. You're talking about GTA III, right? Or the entire series as a whole? Most of what you just listed there, I don't remember doing with Claude. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himuro Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Well, they're in GTAIII. Go replay it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimsLookLikeCocaCola Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Sing the wanna be a baller song? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355952-nikos-no-baller/#findComment-1058229497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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