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Here's what I don't get, I understand the idea of Satanism (That it has nothing to do with the Biblical figure, more about loving oneself from what I've read) but do people really worship him in the same way that we Christians worship God? I mean, are there people who seriously worship the Devil?

I can't see how that would give them much pride.

Here's what I don't get, I understand the idea of Satanism (That it has nothing to do with the Biblical figure, more about loving oneself from what I've read) but do people really worship him in the same way that we Christians worship God? I mean, are there people who seriously worship the Devil?

I can't see how that would give them much pride.

As a self-described sadist, I'm sure you can understand how some folks would gain spiritual fulfillment through sexually gratifying torture and other mean and nasty things. The denouncement of the weak aspects of piousness, such as empathy, guilt, or gratitude, provide a platform for a lot of wack-a-doos.

 

Then again, I'm sure there are a lot of pagans who're just searching for an 'alternative'.

 

 

 

but going to church everyday and praying eveyday is to much IMO.

What's wrong with praying? Who does it harm?

Who does it help?

The person who is speaking with God of course.

I truly feel that praying helps. It is just one of the ways that God and man interact with one another. He will help those who call on him. In one way or another. But for some it must feel like calling to the darkness. I can understand that.

 

 

As a self-described sadist, I'm sure you can understand how some folks would gain spiritual fulfillment through sexually gratifying torture and other mean and nasty things. The denouncement of the weak aspects of piousness, such as empathy, guilt, or gratitude, provide a platform for a lot of wack-a-doos.

 

It's not a stretch Otter. Sexuality and faith have went hand in hand for many years. Many of the first religions revolved around matriarchal deities. Because women's sexual functions were tied to the idea of God as the creator of mankind.

Thanks for the explaination, in hindsight it makes a lot of sense smile.gif

Edited by Typhus

 

Both of those stank of stupidity. Im saying he wasnt a true christian and neither were you. If you have something to say then say it instead if giving ecxuses.

Just for you, nuttyboy.

 

1.If God exists he should prove it

-He doesnt need to. He wants to see who will believe without visual confirmation

How do you know all that? You just assume and that's all you can do. Assume. We, atheists, however, rely on facts.

2.If God exists why is there suffering

-Free will.

There is suffering, because there is no god. Majority of people are born poor. No prayers for starving children in Africa are answered and you're talking about free will.

 

3.Religious people only obey God so as not to be punished

-Simply not true. And a very ignorant statement. smile.gif

Well I don't have anything to argue here.

Both of those stank of stupidity. Im saying he wasnt a true christian and neither were you. If you have something to say then say it instead if giving ecxuses.

Just for you, nuttyboy.

 

1.If God exists he should prove it

-He doesnt need to. He wants to see who will believe without visual confirmation

How do you know all that? You just assume and that's all you can do. Assume. We, atheists, however, rely on facts.

2.If God exists why is there suffering

-Free will.

There is suffering, because there is no god. Majority of people are born poor. No prayers for starving children in Africa are answered and you're talking about free will.

 

3.Religious people only obey God so as not to be punished

-Simply not true. And a very ignorant statement. smile.gif

Well I don't have anything to argue here.

If your a strong enough christian God does reveal himself to you. This is what I meant before,If you dont know about it, dont talk about it. Go to a damn testimony. Its takes more than just prayer for God to answer you. You think he should fix all of your problems even if you dont belive in him from the start. You also have to personally attempt what your asking for and God will help you. Good think you didnt argue in the last one... dozingoff.gif

Both of those stank of stupidity. Im saying he wasnt a true christian and neither were you. If you have something to say then say it instead if giving ecxuses.

Just for you, nuttyboy.

 

1.If God exists he should prove it

-He doesnt need to. He wants to see who will believe without visual confirmation

How do you know all that? You just assume and that's all you can do. Assume. We, atheists, however, rely on facts.

2.If God exists why is there suffering

-Free will.

There is suffering, because there is no god. Majority of people are born poor. No prayers for starving children in Africa are answered and you're talking about free will.

 

3.Religious people only obey God so as not to be punished

-Simply not true. And a very ignorant statement. smile.gif

Well I don't have anything to argue here.

If your a strong enough christian God does reveal himself to you. This is what I meant before,If you dont know about it, dont talk about it. Go to a damn testimony. Its takes more than just prayer for God to answer you. You think he should fix all of your problems even if you dont belive in him from the start. You also have to personally attempt what your asking for and God will help you. Good think you didnt argue in the last one... dozingoff.gif

That's just a way of saying "He doesn't help because........uh uh........"

 

Can't you just accept that people have different beliefs? It's not Christianity or Christians as a whole I have a problem with, it's ones that think they have to convert everyone they see.

 

Same goes with Atheists, and any other belief as well. People just don't know how to mind their own business.

Both of those stank of stupidity. Im saying he wasnt a true christian and neither were you. If you have something to say then say it instead if giving ecxuses.

Just for you, nuttyboy.

 

1.If God exists he should prove it

-He doesnt need to. He wants to see who will believe without visual confirmation

How do you know all that? You just assume and that's all you can do. Assume. We, atheists, however, rely on facts.

2.If God exists why is there suffering

-Free will.

There is suffering, because there is no god. Majority of people are born poor. No prayers for starving children in Africa are answered and you're talking about free will.

 

3.Religious people only obey God so as not to be punished

-Simply not true. And a very ignorant statement. smile.gif

Well I don't have anything to argue here.

If your a strong enough christian God does reveal himself to you. This is what I meant before,If you dont know about it, dont talk about it. Go to a damn testimony. Its takes more than just prayer for God to answer you. You think he should fix all of your problems even if you dont belive in him from the start. You also have to personally attempt what your asking for and God will help you. Good think you didnt argue in the last one... dozingoff.gif

I didn't argue with the last one, because the person I quoted, didn't give any valid argument.

Oh and please tell, how god "reveals" himself to you. Like you wake up in the middle of the night, with windows open, wind blowing and god floating in front of your bed, saying "nutboy, you are true, I exist. From now on, your prayers shall be answered."

Both of those stank of stupidity. Im saying he wasnt a true christian and neither were you. If you have something to say then say it instead if giving ecxuses.

Just for you, nuttyboy.

 

1.If God exists he should prove it

-He doesnt need to. He wants to see who will believe without visual confirmation

How do you know all that? You just assume and that's all you can do. Assume. We, atheists, however, rely on facts.

2.If God exists why is there suffering

-Free will.

There is suffering, because there is no god. Majority of people are born poor. No prayers for starving children in Africa are answered and you're talking about free will.

 

3.Religious people only obey God so as not to be punished

-Simply not true. And a very ignorant statement. smile.gif

Well I don't have anything to argue here.

If your a strong enough christian God does reveal himself to you. This is what I meant before,If you dont know about it, dont talk about it. Go to a damn testimony. Its takes more than just prayer for God to answer you. You think he should fix all of your problems even if you dont belive in him from the start. You also have to personally attempt what your asking for and God will help you. Good think you didnt argue in the last one... dozingoff.gif

Jesus says 'Ask and you shall recieve.'

 

I keep asking 'God' to come out but he doesn't. Why don't I recieve?!

Well i believe in God because:

 

1. If you think of the universe and how it was created and how life would be if nothing was created then you will have a huge brain blockage. It's hard to think that far, and God solves those answers.

 

2. I was taught to believe in him

 

3. He is now part of three religions. Two are the biggest in the world, while one is the oldest monotheistic in the world. (Christianity, Judaism, Islam).

 

4. Archaelogists have found artifacts from biblical stories in the Torah

 

5. Unexplained Events

 

Both of those stank of stupidity. Im saying he wasnt a true christian and neither were you. If you have something to say then say it instead if giving ecxuses.

Just for you, nuttyboy.

 

1.If God exists he should prove it

-He doesnt need to. He wants to see who will believe without visual confirmation

How do you know all that? You just assume and that's all you can do. Assume. We, atheists, however, rely on facts.

2.If God exists why is there suffering

-Free will.

There is suffering, because there is no god. Majority of people are born poor. No prayers for starving children in Africa are answered and you're talking about free will.

 

3.Religious people only obey God so as not to be punished

-Simply not true. And a very ignorant statement. smile.gif

Well I don't have anything to argue here.

If your a strong enough christian God does reveal himself to you. This is what I meant before,If you dont know about it, dont talk about it. Go to a damn testimony. Its takes more than just prayer for God to answer you. You think he should fix all of your problems even if you dont belive in him from the start. You also have to personally attempt what your asking for and God will help you. Good think you didnt argue in the last one... dozingoff.gif

I didn't argue with the last one, because the person I quoted, didn't give any valid argument.

Oh and please tell, how god "reveals" himself to you. Like you wake up in the middle of the night, with windows open, wind blowing and god floating in front of your bed, saying "nutboy, you are true, I exist. From now on, your prayers shall be answered."

People get joy in obeying God because it causes him to care for them. So that they may join him in his kingdom someday. I dont have to prove anything to you. What goes on between me and my God is personal. I dont share it with my firends and I sure as heck wont share it with you. I dont care if you belive me or not

To runey : how in anyway is that saying uh....uh. Belive it or not thats just how it is. I can accept other peoples oppinions but when they begin to mock thats when it becomes irritating. I really shouldnt care. whatsthat.gif

 

Well i believe in God because:

 

1. If you think of the universe and how it was created and how life would be if nothing was created then you will have a huge brain blockage. It's hard to think that far, and God solves those answers.

 

2. I was taught to believe in him

 

3. He is now part of three religions. Two are the biggest in the world, while one is the oldest monotheistic in the world. (Christianity, Judaism, Islam).

 

4. Archaelogists have found artifacts from biblical stories in the Torah

 

5. Unexplained Events

1. That's just silly.

 

2. Alright.

 

3. OK.

 

4. OK and so did Pontius Pilate exist, does hit validate every single thing in the Bible?

 

5. How is that relevant to anything?

 

People get joy in obeying God because it causes him to care for them. So that they may join him in his kingdom someday.

You see? Afraid of punishment. Alternative for you would be to "rot in hell".

Could you, please, simply answer me that: If you would be certain that there were no heaven/paradise to go to, after you die, would you still believe in god and worship him?

 

 

I dont have to prove anything to you. What goes on between me and my God is personal. I dont share it with my firends and I sure as heck wont share it with you. I dont care if you belive me or not

 

Oh come on. I just wanna know. People always talk about "god revealing" himself to them. I just wanna know how it seems. If there is no answer, it is simply bullsh*t, believe it or not.

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Oh come on. I just wanna know. People always talk about "god revealing" himself to them. I just wanna know how it seems. If there is no answer, it is simply bullsh*t, believe it or not.

No, it's just bullsh*t tounge.gif.

The only thing I really want to find out from a religious person is why they believe in their god and no other. There has to be a better reason than "because my God is real" or "I've had 'experiences.'" Those reasons are not valid, you only had an experience because you are delusional from your illogical thinking that comes with your non-existent god.

 

So, please, can some religious person please tell me why they dismiss all other gods but their own?

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