moap Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 It's the most chill out GTA game since GTA III. SA was the least chillout, many loud noises, and harsh colors, still a perfect game as well. But yeah, IV and SA - perfect games. Just hope using those cheats doesn't affect sh*t, ya know? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) Anyone who calls a game "perfect" is in denial. I've never played a game, and said "Yeah it's perfect". GTA IV, and SA are fantastic games, but they're not perfect. A perfect game would suit everyone's tastes, but that would be just about impossible to do. Edited June 8, 2008 by Miamivicecity Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Camo Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 No game is perfect. It's a great game, far better than SA IMO, but nowhere near perfect. No matter what all those sites say. I would give it a 8.5/10 at the highest. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger8 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 This game is perfect. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibboniser Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 No its really not, if its perfect, then it should have everything i want in it, so wheres my DODO kamakaze?(Don't know how to spell it, the little propperller one). Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitsbebop Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 It's the most chill out GTA game since GTA III. SA was the least chillout, many loud noises, and harsh colors, still a perfect game as well. But yeah, IV and SA - perfect games. Just hope using those cheats doesn't affect sh*t, ya know? No, I don't know. IV would get a huge make-over if I could re-make it. IV is no where near perfect. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Humboldt Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 IMO it's not perfect but it's still a 10 because nothing on the market (PS3) has given me anywhere near as much fun. Still playing, still loving it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitsbebop Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 IMO it's not perfect but it's still a 10 because nothing on the market (PS3) has given me anywhere near as much fun. Still playing, still loving it. I agree but some motherf*ckers are out their minds if they say IV is perfect and there is not a few changes they would make if they could give the game a make-over. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Humboldt Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I'm not saying anything new here but people had too high expectations mate. SA (which I loved) was the grand achievement of the PS2 and some dumb f*ckers think Rockstar are going to pull another out of their arse. It took years to get from III to SA on the same platform! Jesus man, give them time! Having said that I see the lights of Algonquin reflected in the sea and it makes me want a burger from the 69th. To me,that makes a great game. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasutin Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 You guys don't understand the phrase. GTA IV combines all great things to make the most enjoyable game experience of the last decade. Games that come close would be FF7, Super Mario Kart, and Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. All can be considered perfect games, because they're create the ultimate game experience. Games can be "perfect," as can movies, music, or any kind of entertainment. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitsbebop Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Vice City should had got a 10/10 because it was as good as or better then IV imo. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasutin Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Vice City should had got a 10/10 because it was as good as or better then IV imo. Great story and characters with the best voice acting of the series, but have you played it on Xbox? The controls weren't fined tuned and it made the game nearly unbearable to finish. Luckily, I played it on PS2 first. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illousion Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Vice City should had got a 10/10 because it was as good as or better then IV imo. Hands down hats off mate! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo004 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 You guys don't understand the phrase. GTA IV combines all great things to make the most enjoyable game experience of the last decade. Games that come close would be FF7, Super Mario Kart, and Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. All can be considered perfect games, because they're create the ultimate game experience. Games can be "perfect," as can movies, music, or any kind of entertainment. o yeah cause shooting pidgeons is more fun then collecting packages.... i loved gta since No. 1 came out... before it became as famous as it is today.... but GTA 4 is no way the best perfect or even greatest GTA game to ever arrive... it didnt really bring anything new to the systems but an engine which does look good but gets rather annoying fast. to make such a statment is idiotic to call it a perfect game... just because some person whos being payed by either Take Two or R* gives it a 10/10 doesnt mean its the greatest game (and yes gaming companies do sponser/support reviewers aslong as there game gets a good score) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitsbebop Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) Vice City should had got a 10/10 because it was as good as or better then IV imo. Great story and characters with the best voice acting of the series, but have you played it on Xbox? The controls weren't fined tuned and it made the game nearly unbearable to finish. Luckily, I played it on PS2 first. I have all the last 4 GTA games on PS2 (3, VC, SA, LCS)...I'm gettin a PSP soon for LCS's MP feature. I never had a Xbox1 but I have a 360...got it just for IV...olny games I got for 360 is IV and Crack-Down so I'm kind of a noob. I olny played VCS at my friends house but I think the story was not all that great as the other or maybe it just was not my style of theam...I mean I'm playin a guy who gets killed at the start of Vice City VCS should had been based on Sonny Forelli's mafia or something. Edited June 8, 2008 by blitsbebop Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnorg Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Anyone who calls a game "perfect" is in denial. I've never played a game, and said "Yeah it's perfect". GTA IV, and SA are fantastic games, but they're not perfect. A perfect game would suit everyone's tastes, but that would be just about impossible to do. I spy with my little eye something that starts with an R. REASON!!! Not often you see it around here! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitsbebop Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) 3 should had been a automatic 10/10 too just like Vice City. It came with something completely new to the table, a new style of gameing and the start of a legend. What new things did IV bring to the table ? besides new graphics, sound, take cover, Euphoria and story choices ?...nothing ground-breaking really. In terms of "sand-box" gameing it's not a huge step up...just a few but not like 20 steps away from SA. You still can't enter every building nor do what ever you want. When you think about the other GTA games got cheated out of their scores or R* paid them to give IV a 10/10. Edited June 8, 2008 by blitsbebop Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 You still can't enter every building nor do what ever you want. At the end of the day, it's still a console costing you only a few hundred bucks that's doing all this. You want every building to be enterable (is that a word), you'd need a lot more data. A LOT! As far as not doing what you want... what's stopping you? What do you want to do that you can't do? You can't have sex with a goat. Should they have incorporated that feature into the game? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesizzle Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 A perfect game to me, may be the worst game to you. Why the hell do most of ya'll try to change peoples opinions, seriously? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 A perfect game to me, may be the worst game to you. Why the hell do most of ya'll try to change peoples opinions, seriously? I was more trying to bring some perspective to the situation. Some of the things people are griping about are absurd. For example: I have never seen so much space dedicated to pixellated fingerless gloves.... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfuji Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I somewhat agree with you...but the game is not perfect. It sure did deserve that 10. There are a bunch of people on this forum who don't have any idea how the reviews go and then label the reviewers as sell outs (These people need to get a life instead of worrying about game reviews) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) 3 should had been a automatic 10/10 too just like Vice City. It came with something completely new to the table, a new style of gameing and the start of a legend. What new things did IV bring to the table ? besides new graphics, sound, take cover, Euphoria and story choices ?...nothing ground-breaking really. In terms of "sand-box" gameing it's not a huge step up...just a few but not like 20 steps away from SA. You still can't enter every building nor do what ever you want. When you think about the other GTA games got cheated out of their scores or R* paid them to give IV a 10/10. I reckon this game would've been better recieved if it didn't come out in a time, where there was alot of competition. GTA III had a easy road to success, because it was unique for its time. Say GTA IV came out instead of the GTA III we know, would you really say it didn't bring alot to the table then? If this was the first GTA made, would you still say the same thing? I think it's because it had alot to live up to, because of what the old GTAs achieved. It does seem strange that R* cut back so many things, but there must be a reason for it. I don't see R* blindly cutting back so many things people loved, without expecting a backlash. Maybe they did. I don't know. I will always love the old GTAs, but I can appreciate the direction GTA IV has taken. Maybe it's boring to some people, but the technology has so much potential, it's not even funny. I can see the next GTA to be a real jewel in the crown now R* have a feel for everything, and hopefully they take the compliants into account. Edited June 8, 2008 by Miamivicecity Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT1987 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 You can't even jack a spaceship and go to the moon. What a waste. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 The game has sold millions so it doesnt matter what we say now. We all know which are the flaws of the game. And the best enjoyment you can get from a game is to take it as it is. Every game has its set of rules, its set of available moves and actions, and its set of objectives. You cannot change those, unless you are the developer of the game. To each of the million people who bought it, it represents something different. Not everyone is playing the game for the same reasons. Some just want to see the story of the game. They dont care if you can "freeroam". They just use the cars to get from point A to point B. The city is there just to immerse them and make it feel "real". The basic apeal of GTA I think is the crime movie vibe, with car shootouts, car stealing, crime story etc.... Those aestethics. My ultimate GTA would be: Help of japanese designers (they would make the gameplay world class) Quentin Tarantino written story 150 million production budget a new city 5 years in the making fully licensed soundtrack world class voice actors playtested by best playtesters a game story which is so relevant that you would want to play the game just for it easy to pickup, hard to master accesible to casual gamers, a paradise for hardcore gamers a cultural phenomenon Of those things, GTA was already many of those. It is the biggest entertainment launch in history It is the biggest money earner in the first week It is mentioned in the mainstream news It is showing what the interactive entertainment can do The best thing is that the future is bright for GTA. For those of you who dont find much fun in GTA IV gameplay, try GTASA PC + MTASA + RPG server. It is the best. Definitely fun. You can THINK of the stuff that you want to do. So imagination is working hard when you play it:) Remember when we played old games, and the graphics were not so advanced so you imagined stuff. So its graphical style over technical graphical features. Its the style of the graphics that matters. Look at cell shaded games. The japanese are now making a black and white game, LA Noire will be black and white. For Rockstar I suggest this: The japanese designers make the character and his moves first, then they build the gameworld. So first you should make the characther physics tight, shooting tight, car physics etc..... Then build the world. Good game design needs to consider these things: learning curve easy to pickup, hard to master immersion load times save system scoring system game bosses replayability play motivation (game rewards) moral message of the game story (what does it want to say to us) mission selection mode cutscene viewer (unlockable when finishing the game) When all those things fall into place, the game is great. Golden rules: gameplay over graphics (if the graphics are great, its a bonus) framerate over graphical effects clarity of textures over too blurry textures try not to port the game (separate PS3/x360(windows) dev teams (I know its expensive) try to atleast hit that 720p 30 FPS + AA with no frame drops In the end it gets down to this: an epic, "perfect game" can be made but, it would take many years, much money etc..... Then it would have to sell much copies. Sorry for the long post. Its a collection of random stuff. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitsbebop Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Golden rules: gameplay over graphics (if the graphics are great, its a bonus) I agree and I think alot of gamers and members on this forum need to understand that. I readed alot of reviews on "Gamespot" and they all start with some line like this "GTA4 looks great on my HD TV" wtf ? Retarded reviews XD Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058220941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-RFTS- Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Golden rules: gameplay over graphics (if the graphics are great, its a bonus) I agree and I think alot of gamers and members on this forum need to understand that. I readed alot of reviews on "Gamespot" and they all start with some line like this "GTA4 looks great on my HD TV" wtf ? Retarded reviews XD Well it does!! whats your Point?? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058221463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 A perfect game to me, may be the worst game to you. Why the hell do most of ya'll try to change peoples opinions, seriously? I was more trying to bring some perspective to the situation. Some of the things people are griping about are absurd. For example: I have never seen so much space dedicated to pixellated fingerless gloves.... I don't give a sh*t about the gloves either, but if many people do, then surely a 'perfect game' would have just included them too, you could ignore them. others could wear them. therefore, more equals better. less is not more, that's why it's called less Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058221498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawjaws Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I don't give a sh*t about the gloves either, but if many people do, then surelya 'perfect game' would have just included them too, you could ignore them. others could wear them. therefore, more equals better. less is not more, that's why it's called less I want to keep this as the most stupid GTA IV quote iv'e heard so far! Love it! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058221531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mozzarelli 80 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I don't give a sh*t about the gloves either, but if many people do, then surelya 'perfect game' would have just included them too, you could ignore them. others could wear them. therefore, more equals better. less is not more, that's why it's called less I want to keep this as the most stupid GTA IV quote iv'e heard so far! Love it! Yet another example of how detrimental thinking can be when one tries to undertake it without the correct equipment Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058221544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawjaws Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I don't give a sh*t about the gloves either, but if many people do, then surelya 'perfect game' would have just included them too, you could ignore them. others could wear them. therefore, more equals better. less is not more, that's why it's called less I want to keep this as the most stupid GTA IV quote iv'e heard so far! Love it! Yet another example of how detrimental thinking can be when one tries to undertake it without the correct equipment Have you read what you just said? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/355545-gta-iv-a-1010/#findComment-1058221553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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