Samutz Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) If you want an increase speed, I would recommend this set: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820141212 However, as old as your system is, the difference from 333 to 400 might not be noticeable. Otherwise, the single PQI stick that Loman posted looks good. Edit: had wrong link, fixed Edited June 17, 2008 by Samutz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPD Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 If you want to know what types of RAM will be compatible with your machine, you'll need to post your motherboard brand and model like others have said. All my specs can be found here. Also, what would you suggest from these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 All my specs can be found here. Also, what would you suggest from these? The max FSB clock speed that can be supported by your Intel 845PE chipset is 533MHz, so I suggest you go for a 2x512MB DDR 533MHz. I'm unable to find anything relevant on ebay. The search is coming up with DDR2 RAMs which are of no use to you. It has some 400MHz modules, but as said earlier, those will hardly give you any noticeable difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPD Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) Any of these any good? Edited June 17, 2008 by CCPD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Any of these any good? That's the problem. They are all DDR2 whereas you need DDR modules. It's kinda surpirsing to know that ebay doesn't have DDR RAMs, but I guess you'll have to try some other online shopping site for better results. Btw, DDR2 is much faster than DDR. So, if you're looking forward to upgrade your motherboard, you can grab anything from that link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Deuce Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Any of these any good? DDR, PC2700, 333MHz is what you're looking for. Anything within those specs should be fine. Generally you can mix brands so long as they're the same speed and type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPD Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 I guess two of these should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I guess two of these should be fine. It will work, but I don't see the FSB clock speen anywhere. If it's the same as your current RAM module (333MHz), then there's no point in buying two of them. Just buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 @Girish, First of all, even though most P4 processors can support upto 2GB of RAM, since his motherboard doesn't support it, the RAM won't be detected, even if the processor can handle it. Also, just because his processor's bus speed is 533 MHz, again, it doesn't mean it'll work because the motherboard too has to support it. So, since the motherboard supports a max of 1GB DDR333 RAM, if you get 533 MHz RAM, the RAM will only work underclocked to 333 MHz, so you're just wasting money. @CCPD, I highly recommend you go with two 512MB DDR333 RAM sticks of the same brand and model, or you could get a single 1GB DDR333 stick. Its recommended to mix same brand and model RAM as you might face stability problems if you mix different sticks together. Also, you won't be able to overclock them (an option that's always nice to have for a nice boost of speed). The RAM in that link you provided is exactly what you're looking for. Buy two of them and you're set . @Girish, The RAM speed is shown on the page, check again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 @Girish, First of all, even though most P4 processors can support upto 2GB of RAM, since his motherboard doesn't support it, the RAM won't be detected, even if the processor can handle it. Well, the last time I checked the Intel 845PE chipset supported 533MHz modules. But, anyways, Dell has confirmed that 533MHz modules aren't guaranteed to work with his sytem, so CCPD will have to settle for 333MHz modules. Also, since he already has a similar 512MB module, it'd be better to just buy one more of the similar type. And yeah, I saw the RAM speed at the bottom of the page. Must have missed it the first time I read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPD Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 I think I'll go with one of these (the red square shows the best deals). Which one would you people recommend and do I really need to but the two new ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 As said earlier, since you already have a 512MB DDR333 module, you'll just need another of the same type. So, yeah, go for any one of those best deals in that pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Well, you don't have to pair two of the same sticks, but its generally recommended to do so as you might face some stability problems. You also won't be able to overclock them, and your RAM timings will also probably mess up, causing your RAM to run at the timings of the stick of RAM with the worst timings, which would have a performance hit on the PC. Out of those RAM sticks, I say go with either the Samsung, the Infineon or the Viking sticks mainly because they're quite popular and reliable brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPD Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 Should I just get Samsung 1GB 333MHz RAM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Deuce Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Should I just get Samsung 1GB 333MHz RAM? I wouldn't have hesitated in just getting another 512MB stick, but a fresh 1GB definitely wouldn't hurt. Go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Should I just get Samsung 1GB 333MHz RAM? Well, if you don't have any monetary limitations, then it's not a bad choice at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Yep, that 1GB stick is a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPD Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 (edited) It's the cheapest branded 1GB 333MHz RAM stick I could find on eBay. I keep getting told that I might get problems if I will use unbranded and mismatched RAM sticks. In my opinion single RAM stick with the maximum of what my PC can handle is the way to go. Also, it’s not more expensive than most of 512MB ones. Plus I get a "free" cooler for it (I know its price already included in the total and it’s not free). From experience I know that it’s best to pay a bit more once, in order to get good quality item, than keep buying crap which in the end will end up to be more expensive. Am I wrong in this case? Edited June 18, 2008 by CCPD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I don't see any way that you can go wrong. It's very easily a best buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 From experience I know that it’s best to pay a bit more once, in order to get good quality item, than keep buying crap which in the end will end up to be more expensive. Very true, I think like you as well. The Samsung 1GB stick is a great choice, better to buy one stick than to pair up different sticks of RAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumster Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 can't be a ram problem because 512mb is more than enough to run 3 programs even stuff like photoshop source: me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loman Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 On the motherboard's specs it says "Memory capacities: 128-, 256-, and 512-MB non-ECC DDR SDRAM" so are you guys sure a 1GB stick would work? If it would, it would undoubtedly be the best way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPD Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 Yes, on the website that I posted, which has all the specs of my PC, and Dell themselves confirmed that I can handle the maximum of 1GB 333Mhz DDR PC2700 SDRAM. Thanks very much to everyone for their help and suggestions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loman Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I know, but I meant, can it handle a 1GB stick, or do you have to use two 512MB to get to 1GB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPD Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 Dell’s technical support said either way is fine as long as I don’t use anything more powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loman Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Oh, cool, I just wanted to make sure you didn't buy anything you couldn't use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPD Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 It looks like I couldn’t use it after all. I inserted it instead of the old one, and after the loading Windows XP logo I get the error message saying something about failed endpoint format. The error message was generated by lsass.exe, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star-Lord Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Memory Management or Boot.ini Corrupted: CAUSE: Your computer may had run out of available system page table, entries causing it to crash when loading to destop or before. To work around this issue, restart your computer in Safe Mode.(F8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management To add this registry entry, follow these steps: Log on by using an account that has administrative credentials. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK. In Registry Editor, locate and then click the following registry subkey: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click DWORD value. Type SystemPages, and then press ENTER. On the Edit menu, click Modify. Click Decimal, type 31000, and then click OK. Quit Registry Editor. RESTART THE COMPUTER If you don't want to fiddle with the registry you can either repair or install from scratch. But this method should work for you. If this doesn't work then the problem may be caused by the type of Ram you are inserting they may be a chance where your motherboard will support two sticks that make one gig instead of 1 stick that makes 1 gig. And something else's that you can't rule out is that you might have a bad memory module. Good Luck! CCPD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Is the RAM you installed detected fine in the BIOS? It should display it while the PC is booting up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPD Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 When I changes the stick and turned my PC on, the black screen appeared. I saw my PC technical information and below it said that the memory size been changed. Then it’s started to boot and the Windows XP logo with loading bar at the bottom appeared. After few seconds it took me to the plain black screen, after which the desktop supposed to load, but in my case it didn’t. After about a minute or so of the black screen the error message appeared saying something about problem with the end point format. I tried both RAM slots and no luck. I checked every single technical detail on RAM before purchasing it, and I contacted Dell technical support numerous times. I was reassured that the RAM I’m buying is totally compatible with my system. I guess I need to buy 512MB RAM and try to use 2 sticks of 512MB each. Anybody have spare 512MB RAM stick from their old Dell4550? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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