dannyhull Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) Do think GTA Should be a 18+ game? Do you think people should let under 18's have the game? Do you think it makes them turn in to bad people? (eg want to carry knives, guns, drugs etc...) What do you think to these questions I got 1 of my mates telling me it should be band coz of kids getting the game but I don't thinks it's bad on kids as long as they reailise the differance between the game. I was about 10 I think well it was primary school when I 1st went on the 1st GTA Edited June 5, 2008 by dannyhull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTASIX Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I think it should. Its got everything in it, violence, drugs & sex. Thats just about everything on the check list. I dont think it turns people into killers or anything like that. Thats just the media trying to blame games for peoples actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I've always said that maturity is measured by attitude, not age. Someone could be 17, and be more mature than say a 25 year old. They shouldn't be handicapped due to their age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdZ767 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Yes it should be 18+ for obvious reasons. When i was much younger before games had ratings, i watched 18 rated films all the time, so id be a hipercrite if i didnt say why not let kids play it if the parents are ok with it. I dont think it turns them into bad people (unless they are seriously mentally disturburbed anyway), i blame society and their upbringing, whether it be bad parenting or so called friends who lead you astray, trust me i know. Games imo are a good distraction from the sh*t i mentioned and keeps them off the streets, GTA IV feels very anti drug which is good cuz ive been there done that & have suffered the consequences, and now am over it, so i dont want that crap in my face again as a constant reminder of those times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZorro Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I've always said that maturity is measured by attitude, not age. Someone could be 17, and be more mature than say a 25 year old. They shouldn't be handicapped due to their age. That is actually what you would expect a minor would say just to justify for them to play the game. Just read it says 18+ minors just need to except that not everything is free for them yet. they have to grow up first. 18 + is 18+ accept it, and live on. And these boards really should do something about those 13 year old playing this game, or else remove those damn rating. and quite bitching about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) Yeah that is true, but people don't just grow up over night. I know when I turned 18 I wasn't any different to when I was in high school. Even now I'm 22, I can be immature at times. Now I wouldn't expect a 10 year old to show enough maturity to understand right from wrong in a game like this, but it's more the people who are closer to 18. The way the logic works is if you're 17, you're an immature little sh*t, but at your 18th birthday you just transform into a mature adult. Nah sorry I think it's flawed. Some people take years to grow up, even if they're over 18. It's quite hypocritical when you think about. Who here that is over 18 first played GTA when they were over 18? I played GTA 1 when I was 12. Edited June 4, 2008 by Miamivicecity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0MN4G Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I've a friend who are 12 years old and are playing GTA IV... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmellyBobIV Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 GTA makes me want to go murder people, in fact i have just stabbed my neighbours, robbed a bank, and kidknapped a small child from my street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Last I knew, it already was an 18 game. *head in hands etc* Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasutin Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I'm 21, so I'm no minor. Maturity is about attitude, not about age. This game is very marketable to the teenage demographic, and I believe a 15-year-old is absolutely able to handle violence, blood, sex, drug use, and foul language. This isn't 1950, we don't get our entertainment in a chapel anymore. Our society grows up on sex and violence. We can clearly see that anything we see on TV and film, or play in a video game is fiction. Nobody is going to go out and rob a drug dealer after seeing it on Grand Theft Auto. Even a child can make the connection to fiction. The only issue with someone under 15, and especially elementary-aged children, is they're very impressionable, and boys especially as they're aggressive. The reason I would swiftly take this game, or a movie with similar undertones, out of the hand of anyone under 15 is because I don't want to hear a kid tell their mom to "go f*ck herself" because they don't get their way. And I don't want to see two brothers rough-housing turn into a bar brawl with makeshift weapons because they have become overly aggressive. I know for a fact a young person can handle this game, but it's not wise to make a generalization. The parent has to step in and decide if their 15-year-old is mature enough to handle it. If their kid is already in a lot of trouble before playing any video games, Grand Theft Auto isn't a good choice. Maybe start him off on Wii Fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yatesyz Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I don't think it's fair that the game is an 18+ because most people in-between 15 and 18 could handle the game fine. It's not right to give it to someone under 15 as they might copy what happens in the game. It should be up to the parents if they want the child to have the game anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItWasntMe Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Its down to the (often irresponsible) parents to decide. I caught my nephews playing GTa3 when they were about 12 and had a word with my sister to ask her to take it away, as it was not appropriate, esepecially when the younger nephew who was only 7 was watching and playing sometimes too. Apparently, my sister bought it for them not knowing what it was, and just believing them when they said it was just a fun game that wasn't really an 18. She didn't take an active interest in it. And thats the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpunk Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I was sat playing Liberty City Stories on my mate's son's PSP, he's 7. I was giving them commentary on what I was doing. Just off to buy some drugs for so and so, ooooh shot some hookers. His wife was like "What?!?!?!?", had no idea that that was what the game was about. Thing is though, the kid hadn't played any of the missions. It was all about just wandering about stealing cars and driving around for him. But it still wound me up that the parents didn't have a clue. On the whole, I don't think the 18 tags about impressionable kids getting the wrong idea and then going out and being criminals. I think it's more to do with the exposure to adult themes. Like kids shouldn't learn about drugs through GTA. They shouldn't learn about sex through GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shak_4 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 some no-brain ass clowns say that gta makes people murderers. but what about the other 99.9% of killers and gang bangers who never touched a game controller in their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 some no-brain ass clowns say that gta makes people murderers.but what about the other 99.9% of killers and gang bangers who never touched a game controller in their life. I agree with 99.9% of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinPotRay Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Yeah exactly... What those hysterical critics of GTA (also Manunt etc.) need to realise is that these games are ART IMITATING LIFE, or even Art exaggerating life. People carried knifes and shot guns long before video games. Add to that list stolen cars, carried out hits, got with hookers... In fact the only "crime" that has been created by the gaming industry, is the manufacture and selling of pirated games. Ironic isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarquin biscuitbarrel Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I've always said that maturity is measured by attitude, not age. Someone could be 17, and be more mature than say a 25 year old. They shouldn't be handicapped due to their age. what are you suggesting? when you hand over GTAIV to the shop attendant, he's obligated to say something like "bum" and if you laugh he's not allowed to sell the game to you? imo GTAIV should be 18+, if parents think their kids are mature enough to play - they can buy it. movies have been age flagged for decades, it's exactly the same as games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatertotts Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 when you hand over GTAIV to the shop attendant, he's obligated to say something like "bum" and if you laugh he's not allowed to sell the game to you? I dunno, but that made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truplaya Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I was sat playing Liberty City Stories on my mate's son's PSP, he's 7. I was giving them commentary on what I was doing. Just off to buy some drugs for so and so, ooooh shot some hookers. His wife was like "What?!?!?!?", had no idea that that was what the game was about. Thing is though, the kid hadn't played any of the missions. It was all about just wandering about stealing cars and driving around for him. But it still wound me up that the parents didn't have a clue. On the whole, I don't think the 18 tags about impressionable kids getting the wrong idea and then going out and being criminals. I think it's more to do with the exposure to adult themes. Like kids shouldn't learn about drugs through GTA. They shouldn't learn about sex through GTA. This is why the 18 certificate is there though, so people who dont know what the game is about can make a decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dackiiweed Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I know when I turned 18 I wasn't any different to when I was in high school. Even now I'm 22, I can be immature at times. Everyone! I mean everyone has there immature side, from children to adults everyone can be immature at time, if they aren't well, what a boring sod that person is. But being immature doesn't mean you can't play video games. I totally agree with what you said in your other post about a 17 year old being more mature than a 25 year old. Its just the way it is sometimes. Maturity doesn't come with age! Also what i'd like to say about the first post (posted by the topic starter), i don't think 18+ violent games cause people to carry guns, knifes, or any other sort of weapon, i think its possible that the game could trigger something off in there head, like unleashing the beast, lol, its no one else's fault apart from that person who is playing the game, at the end of the day its there choice to go out and get violent, just means there f*cked in the head.. Plain and simple really! I don't like it when you hear these stories about when someones got violent and then they blame the game, its like "WTF?! Is up with that!?" because after they've done this random act of violence there totally alright, nothing wrong with them, just the crying and putting on an act like they didn't know what they was doing bullsh*t.. I'm talking about stuff like the kid that killed over Manhunt (another R* title).. Thats my opinion anyway, hope it made sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix6APlix Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I never hurt anyone in my life, then after 13 minutes of playing GTA IV I was parading down my street with my sawn off with a survival knife clenched in my teeth. So, as your attorney, I recommend that every man woman and child should have to play GTA IV or SA for at least one hour a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bblancobrnx Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 In my opinion, over 18 is too strict of a rating. At least the game should be rated for 17 and older. Any younger than that, and I think the parents need to be made fully aware of the contents of the game and then decide whether or not to buy it for their kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennenlerner Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Video games do NOT influence people at all. Did Hitler play GTA? No. Did Jack the Ripper play Saints Row? No. There was murder and violence way before video games were even thought possible. So all this "Video games create killers" is pretty much bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpunk Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Why won't people discuss young people's exposure to adult themes? Pretty sure that's why films are rated, so it's why games are rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bblancobrnx Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) Video games do NOT influence people at all. Did Hitler play GTA? No. Did Jack the Ripper play Saints Row? No. There was murder and violence way before video games were even thought possible. So all this "Video games create killers" is pretty much bullsh*t. Vidoe games do not influence MOST NORMAL, RATIONAL people at all! However, they COULD contribute to a person's warped views on society (just like any media COULD) Edited June 4, 2008 by bblancobrnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nealmac Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Of course it should be over 18's. What a ridiculous thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bblancobrnx Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Of course it should be over 18's. What a ridiculous thread. I don't know about that. I don't think it is any worse than an 'R' movie. 17 and older gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nealmac Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 R = 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bblancobrnx Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 R = 18 Huh? since when? I thought that R was 17 and under admitted with an adult? You are thinking of 'X'... Over 18 ONLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Apple Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I think San Andreas prolly shoulda been 18 but GTAIV is pretty tame by GTA standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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