Erados Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 What is with EVERYONE on PSN making games that have this in them: AA on. Powerful Weapons. Near Respawn at 1 second. I swear 99% of all the games have this setup. Is it really that fun? You can't do good in games like that. You can win, but you can never do good with a kill:death ratio. Spawnshields and instant-lock-on and a powerful weapon the second you respawn? I wouldn't be bitching like people do about AA, but this is EVERY SINGLE GAME. I've been trying all afternoon and evening to find a TDM that did not have these exact settings and I've only... found... two. Then when I host my own game with the settings I want (Standard, AA off, Med 5s) nobody joins. They all look, but they all leave eventually. I have cycled through literally dozens of games now and it's nothing but AA Powerful 1sN. Which to me is the worst POSSIBLE game you could make. Why is everyone fascinated with it? Even if it lets everyone get 50 kills in a game, your deaths are horrible and they're unavoidable. There is literally no skill - just an AA game I could understand, I'm not one of those idiots who think AA is something only noobs use, but having near 1 second respawn is just the worst combination ever. I think the people who make those games, not AA games in general, are the biggest losers and worst players on the goddamn network. And yes, I'm f*cking pissed at this. I wouldn't bitch so much if people would at least join my games, but I get 3 joins before they start trying to kick me for being "idle" when I'd like a game with 10+ people. Which is quite literally impossible on these settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Up&Coming. Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I'll join your games don't worry. I swear I'm not stalking you, but I always seem to come across you in a thread. I obviously agree. The only issues I really have is Near+1s respawn together. The rest I can deal with every so often. There really aren't enough AA off games, though. Hmm, you know what would help? A f*cking lobby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZskep Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 yeah, come on R* is it really that hard to implement a lobby with a filter so you can view the different available games based on criteria you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erados Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 I'll join your games don't worry.I swear I'm not stalking you, but I always seem to come across you in a thread. I obviously agree. The only issues I really have is Near+1s respawn together. The rest I can deal with every so often. There really aren't enough AA off games, though. Hmm, you know what would help? A f*cking lobby! Yeah, the AA on and powerful works for me too - those are easy games... but when you add 1sN to it, it makes it impossible to stay alive. Literally impossible. Every single person you kill has a 3 second head start on you... and they appear half a block away with a weapon that has the range to get you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31st Funk Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I don't know, they just want quick, easy matches to boost exp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Up&Coming. Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I'll join your games don't worry.I swear I'm not stalking you, but I always seem to come across you in a thread. I obviously agree. The only issues I really have is Near+1s respawn together. The rest I can deal with every so often. There really aren't enough AA off games, though. Hmm, you know what would help? A f*cking lobby! Yeah, the AA on and powerful works for me too - those are easy games... but when you add 1sN to it, it makes it impossible to stay alive. Literally impossible. Every single person you kill has a 3 second head start on you... and they appear half a block away with a weapon that has the range to get you. I guess it's for the people who like fast-action games. I prefer to take it slow...hide out near an enemy so they're dumb enough to creep up where you usually steal my kill, but that's ok. I'm just in it to get more skill. It's the best. I'm almost never the first to come after them. They always come to me. I would like some type of categories...I don't know. "AA OFF" and "AA ON" should be separated completely. Those are big factors. Then you can have the little statistics or whatnot for each game like the respawn distance and speed. PS3 is my first multiplayer experience, so I wouldn't know crap about what lobbies are supposed to look like. I do know they usually have some type of organization unlike GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erados Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 I don't know, they just want quick, easy matches to boost exp? EVERYONE? A full hour of cycling through games and literally 19 out of 20 games are with the hated settings? What the hell is so fun about it anyway... I see those games fill up so fast, and it's just a massive orgy of bullets and nobody lasts more than 30 seconds. What's the point? And Panz, I steal your kills because they're usually shooting at me. You can't expect me to sit back and take bullets just because you take a long time to line up a headshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Face Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 i come back and play good ol Vice City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZskep Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I don't know, they just want quick, easy matches to boost exp? EVERYONE? A full hour of cycling through games and literally 19 out of 20 games are with the hated settings? What the hell is so fun about it anyway... I see those games fill up so fast, and it's just a massive orgy of bullets and nobody lasts more than 30 seconds. What's the point? is it because they are default and a lot of people are too retarded to know how to change them when they are the host? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Up&Coming. Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 i come back and play good ol Vice City I saw my brother playing that the other day. I can't stand to play the old generation GTA's anymore. I loved them so much...put more hours into SA than I probably ever will in IV. But, everything is so dull and undetailed that I just can't play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erados Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 I don't know, they just want quick, easy matches to boost exp? EVERYONE? A full hour of cycling through games and literally 19 out of 20 games are with the hated settings? What the hell is so fun about it anyway... I see those games fill up so fast, and it's just a massive orgy of bullets and nobody lasts more than 30 seconds. What's the point? is it because they are default and a lot of people are too retarded to know how to change them when they are the host? Nah. AA on, All weapons, Medium, and 5 seconds are default. They change them on purpose to be like this. Not to mention these games also usually have midday and clear weather, high cars and peds, and so on. They know how to change the settings and they know what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31st Funk Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I don't know, they just want quick, easy matches to boost exp? EVERYONE? A full hour of cycling through games and literally 19 out of 20 games are with the hated settings? What the hell is so fun about it anyway... I see those games fill up so fast, and it's just a massive orgy of bullets and nobody lasts more than 30 seconds. What's the point? Again, exp. They're experience whores. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erados Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 I don't know, they just want quick, easy matches to boost exp? EVERYONE? A full hour of cycling through games and literally 19 out of 20 games are with the hated settings? What the hell is so fun about it anyway... I see those games fill up so fast, and it's just a massive orgy of bullets and nobody lasts more than 30 seconds. What's the point? Again, exp. They're experience whores. Haha. Experienced, with a d, you mean? NOOSE is faster than any TDM. 4500 in 3-4 minutes. And these random noobs can't get 45 kills in 3 or 4 minutes whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamikazeCanadian Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I actually enjoy games like this, but only in moderation. I do believe some skill is involved, but only in shooting. Last time I played like this I had 68:7 kill death ratio, which I think is very good considering the settings. Most people think auto aim is just lock on and fire consistently. This mentality makes them easy to beat. But again, I would never choose these settings for my own game, it's not what GTA IV was meant to be, and even noobs get more kills then they rightfully deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo_Panaflex Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I don't mind playing these games...but yes, in moderation. If you can scurry away from the carnage and get yourself some armour, you can clean up. I played one last night. 15 mins Colony Island AA on Spawn: near Weapons: Rocket Launchers Traffic: High Peds: High I don't think I have laughed so much playing a game ever. Bodies flying left right and centre..cars blowing up. It was a lot of fun....isn't that what games are about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonThummel Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 R* better Fking implement a lobby for the pc version, cause this sounds like crap! Honestly a lobby isn't that difficult to set up, all they need is a main server to run the lobby on and Boom your in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explicitmo Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) I hate that sh*t too! If you got really bad or good luck, you can take out the same guy like 6 times in row or spawn infront of someones assault-rifle 6 times, best with ur back to the rifle! It sucks!! But I also like games with blips off (at least only blips on far) more than when you can be seen on the radar... it's just not right to have a radar in a deathmatch i.m.o. at least if ur not playing in the whole city! And I can't really understand what's so funny about the match Lazlo mentioned. To me it would be funny like 2 min. and then it would get daaaaaamn annoying. Damn, I'm a hater! Edited June 3, 2008 by explicitmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJude™ Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I take these games for what they are, an easy way to grab cash and rank up. It gets annoying when you can't find cover and just end up fighting battles of attricion. Of course, with so many n00bs, I tend to get a decent 3-1 or 4-1 kill ratio unless I find cover in which case I can maybe nail off a few more. I just don't worry about dying, only killing. I was just in this exact game yesterday, TDM with some n00b who was freaking out (there were 2 of us against 2 big teams) and yet we came in second, mainly because of my 70 kills. Now, given my CHOICE in the matter, I like something more challenging than "hide in the bushes, autotarget and shoot in short bursts" or "run around Algonquin, dodge traffic, get to destination 2 wasted minutes later, kill a couple guys and die because 4 dudes who had no CLUE where the f*ck you were autolock, only to die when you respawn behind them". lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Up&Coming. Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Actually, I might actually enjoy a game or two of AA on with blips on far, but respawn needs to be at least medium. I don't like AA much, but it's fun once in awhile if you want to be lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explicitmo Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I really don't care if auto-aim is on or off! I like to play both of it and JUST PLAY whatever the host chose. Lately I'm doing better with auto-aim off as it seems... but I guess it's caus you don't get killed as often as with AA on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsrule247 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Who cares about your kill death ratio? It doesn't help you with money at the end so don't worry about it. You stats people are so annoying, you just can't live without having a good ratio, can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explicitmo Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Who cares about your kill death ratio? It doesn't help you with money at the end so don't worry about it. You stats people are so annoying, you just can't live without having a good ratio, can you? Abso-f*ckin-lutely! I don't care about killing 70 people when I got killed like 69 times... money ain't everything. Especially not when you loose it every now and then due to server problems and everything you can do with it is buy some f*cked up clothes that all look the same!! You don't earn my respect when ur at level 10 but play like a bitch! All that it is telling me about you is that you ain't got sh*t to do with ur life caus you hang 24/7 infront of ur console in the summer... Edited June 3, 2008 by explicitmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJude™ Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Here's why dying matters to me: you lose valuble time! On TDM you also put money in the pockets of the other team. In this style match the thread is talking about, it's true, you can't worry. That was my advice for the kid freaking out yesterday when we were way outgunned, don't worry about dying, worry about killing and enjoy as much as you can. I agree with Erados, more and more I'm seeing the same settings to the point I got happy when I saw I was in a disallow game, 20 minutes, 1 second spawn medium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riotkittie Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I wouldn't be bitching like people do about AA, but this is EVERY SINGLE GAME. I've been trying all afternoon and evening to find a TDM that did not have these exact settings and I've only... found... two. 1 sec/near doesn't phase me in Dukes/Broker or the larger areas, and I'll normally spawn outside of the action there (in TDM at least. DM and Free Mode are iffy), but I cannot understand what possesses people to use those settings in places like the prison, industrial area, docks, the smaller islands when AA is also on. I was in a game like that earlier this morning, and it was especially awful because the room was also full & weapons were set to powerful. AA off, 5 sec or medium+ respawn games are pretty common when I play (late night/early am EST). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronG Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Who cares about your kill death ratio? It doesn't help you with money at the end so don't worry about it. You stats people are so annoying, you just can't live without having a good ratio, can you? Id see it like a game of football or something? would you rather win 5 - 4 or 5 - 1 Dont it show who is better in a match? skill wise i mean fk the money.... we want heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eamonhonda Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 also why does everyone want blips on even in the small islands does no1 agree its way more exciting with the blips off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootricky Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 also why does everyone want blips on even in the small islands does no1 agree its way more exciting with the blips off? Blips far is the best. I haven't tried "off" yet, but might tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eamonhonda Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 also why does everyone want blips on even in the small islands does no1 agree its way more exciting with the blips off? Blips far is the best. I haven't tried "off" yet, but might tonight. well yes blips far is grand. butt there always set to all. charge island powerful wepons no blips! love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronG Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 blips off in a small area or u`ll be running around n might not even see anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erados Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 I care about my ratio. My goal in any game is to get a better than 3:1 kills to death ratio, OR if I'm on the winning team, to personally (just me, not even including my teammembers) have a higher score than the entire score of the second-place team combined. So if my team has 5000, and I have 3000 personally, I consider it a loss if the second-place team has anything over 3000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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