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I wanted to bring this up for discussion because I live in Melbourne and from what I've seen, this city and it's surrounds can be quite violent.

 

The most outstanding piece of evidence to show this is the gangland killings, 34 major crime figures killed in the space of eight years with some of their "thugs" shot, stabbed or bashed in the same period.

 

People outside Australia may not know some of these names, but for Australians, they were/are major figures. The following people could provide a base for Rockstar to create some amazing characters.

 

Victor Brincat

  • Carried out over forty armed robberies.
  • Shot career criminal Jason Moran in front of over twenty children at a youth football clinic.
  • Shot drug dealer Michael Marshall with a shotgun at daylight in the middle of a street, in front of Marshall's young son.
Andrew "Benji" Veniamin
  • Involved in drive-by shootings and various road-rage incidents.
  • Assosciate of drug dealer Dino Dibra before being paid to kill him.
  • Shot Dino Dibra at least six times, including at least three shots after Dibra was already dead.
  • A suspect in the murders of other career criminals Victor Peirce, Frank Benvenuto, Nik Radev and Paul Kallipolitis.
Carl Williams
  • Worked with the Moran family before breaking off and leading his own gang.
  • Shot in the stomach by Jason Moran after the Morans discovered he was working against them.
  • Connected with at least ten killings.
  • Killed Mark Moran with a shotgun at close range.
Jason and Mark Moran
  • Jason carried a gun from the time he was a teen until his death.
  • Jason was involved in a road rage incident in which when cut off by another motorist, used a wheel brace to smash the other driver's windscreen and then beat him severely.
  • Jason was Alphonse "The Black Prince" Gangitano's right hand man until the two had a falling out.
  • Jason murdered Gangitano in his home with a handgun. Gangitano was found by his wife in the laundry. He had been shot numerous times in the face.
  • Mark was involved in the bashing murder of an assosciate after the man had made a remark about a female remark of Mark and Jason's.

You think of the United States as the gang capital of the world, but Australia, especially Melbourne has some bad stuff. Although the men listed above are members of the organized crime families of Melbourne, there are so many different groups, it proves multiculturism is not such a great idea. Vietnamese, Sudanese, Aussies, Lebanese, Tongans, Samoans, Kiwis, Italians, Irish and the rest.

 

 

 

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Great idea mate, I live about 3 hours from Melbourne.

Somebody needs to send Rockstar Underbelly, the TV series. Could be the best game around.

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London or GTFO.

They've already done London. I'm hoping to god that they don't repeat a city, even if London was ages ago.

 

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' date='May 29 2008, 11:01'] Bah no not Australia.

 

 

Manchester FTW

Manchester? Why?

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London or GTFO.

They've already done London. I'm hoping to god that they don't repeat a city, even if London was ages ago.

London has never been done in 3D. Please don't mention "The Getaway" as that game is a smear on gaming history.

 

 

A R* version of London just makes sense. It's one of their historical locations. It's one of, if not THE most culturally diverse cities in the world. It has crime levels comparable to New York and L.A.. It has gangs. Our armed police carry machine guns.

 

What could be better than that?

 

Plus, and this is the key, why would R* want to make a game about the only country in the world that chooses to censor them?

 

EDIT: Plus, they've already repeated LC, VC and SA, from the original top-down game. You seem quite content to play THOSE repeated cities tounge.gif

Signatures are dumb anyway.

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,May 29 2008, 11:01] Bah no not Australia.

 

 

Manchester FTW

Manchester? Why?

MANCHESTER! LOL. I've been to Manchester, and there's nothing scary about it. It would remind me too much of Getaway.

 

 

Melbourne is such a good place to have a new GTA. I think the ignorance towards the city (and country for that matter) is too big.

P.S. Don't bring up that Kangaroo, koala sh*t please. That steriotype sh*t is just f*cked up.

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What would be the name of Melbourne in the GTA universe?

GTA: Piranha City.

 

 

If anyone knows about the gangland murders, they would know what that means.

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all us Aussies (and damn proud of it) will agree and everybody else will dissagree

 

 

 

 

ITS A GREAT IDEA tounge.gif

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I'm going to break up your post so I can respond to it better.

 

 

London has never been done in 3D. Please don't mention "The Getaway" as that game is a smear on gaming history.

 

Never has Melbourne or any other non-American city. sarcasm.gif

 

 

A R* version of London just makes sense. It's one of their historical locations. It's one of, if not THE most culturally diverse cities in the world. It has crime levels comparable to New York and L.A.. It has gangs. Our armed police carry machine guns.

 

The crime level in London, what does that actually mean? Petty thefts and vandalism notify.gif ? Armed police carrying machine guns is pretty much a global thing.

 

 

Plus, and this is the key, why would R* want to make a game about the only country in the world that chooses to censor them?

 

Think of all the spoofing tounge2.gif opportunities.

 

 

EDIT: Plus, they've already repeated LC, VC and SA, from the original top-down game. You seem quite content to play THOSE repeated cities

 

True, but IV is the first GTA game I've played since the top down ones and the only other option is Saints Row mercie_blink.gif .

 

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What would be the name of Melbourne in the GTA universe?

GTA: Piranha City.

 

 

If anyone knows about the gangland murders, they would know what that means.

Isn't it spelt 'Purana'? Google didn't help.

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A R* version of London just makes sense. It's one of their historical locations. It's one of, if not THE most culturally diverse cities in the world. It has crime levels comparable to New York and L.A.. It has gangs. Our armed police carry machine guns.

 

The crime level in London, what does that actually mean? Petty thefts and vandalism notify.gif ? Armed police carrying machine guns is pretty much a global thing.

Petty theft and vandalism?

 

You do know that we have Yardies, carrying machetes and automatic weapons on the streets of London, don't you?

You do know that we have Russians, carrying guns on the streets of London, don't you?

You do know that katana-wielding Triads are prevalent in London's Soho area, don't you?

 

We have "comparable crime" to New York.

 

There's nothing special about Melbourne. There's less there to parody than there is in London.

 

I mean, most Australians in America are asked if they're from England, because most Yanks don't even know the accent.

Signatures are dumb anyway.

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I agree,

I Live in Melbourne and its had its fair share of violence. These days you cant even go to a club without some hero trying to start a fight. Its dangerous and GTA london please...... I know you said not to mention the getaway but have you seen anything on the new getaway, its looks awesome, and the graphics are pretty sick, if rockstar do GTA london it would be copying the new ' Getaway' its not worth it for rockstar to do it. Would be like EA or some other developer doing a free roam game of new york, with good graphics, whats the point if rockstar has already done that.

Melbourne all the way, you can do so much with it underbelly gangland wars, triads, hells angels biker gang,

places like the MCG Stadium or telstra dome crown casino, eureka tower, docklands, st kilda, it has everything you can have in a gta game.

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You do know that we have Yardies, carrying machetes and automatic weapons on the streets of London, don't you?

You do know that we have Russians, carrying guns on the streets of London, don't you?

You do know that katana-wielding Triads are prevalent in London's Soho area, don't you?

 

You do know that we have Italian and Irish mobsters carrying rifles and handguns, don't you?

You do know we have Lebanese and Asians carrying machetes around, don't you?

You do know that Islanders (Maori, Samoan, Tongan) carry bats, knives and god knows what else around, don't you?

 

You do know that the teenage gangs of London seem petty to the stuff I have personally seen in the western suburbs of Melbourne? Football games are crawling with rival gangs from the suburbs of each team. I was playing for a team on Friday night and an all in brawl involving machetes and bats broke out, causing the game to be halted, players sent into the rooms and police to be called?

 

 

I mean, most Australians in America are asked if they're from England, because most Yanks don't even know the accent.

 

Maybe not, but how do you explain the prevalent stereotypes that occur with Americans AND British alike, that every Aussie must say G'day. I know that isn't accent, but think of the parodys on the Australian culture?

 

 

hells angels biker gang

 

Thank you! I knew I was forgetting something. The biker gangs of Australia, not just Melbourne are involved in some of the biggest drug trades going around, as well as having a bigger presence than the police!

 

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You do know that we have Yardies, carrying machetes and automatic weapons on the streets of London, don't you?

You do know that we have Russians, carrying guns on the streets of London, don't you?

You do know that katana-wielding Triads are prevalent in London's Soho area, don't you?

 

You do know that we have Italian and Irish mobsters carrying rifles and handguns, don't you?

You do know we have Lebanese and Asians carrying machetes around, don't you?

You do know that Islanders (Maori, Samoan, Tongan) carry bats, knives and god knows what else around, don't you?

 

You do know that the teenage gangs of London seem petty to the stuff I have personally seen in the western suburbs of Melbourne? Football games are crawling with rival gangs from the suburbs of each team. I was playing for a team on Friday night and an all in brawl involving machetes and bats broke out, causing the game to be halted, players sent into the rooms and police to be called?

 

 

I mean, most Australians in America are asked if they're from England, because most Yanks don't even know the accent.

 

Maybe not, but how do you explain the prevalent stereotypes that occur with Americans AND British alike, that every Aussie must say G'day. I know that isn't accent, but think of the parodys on the Australian culture?

OK, I see your point, but you've just failed to acknowledge mine.

 

The Yardies, Russians, Triads, Nigerians, Rastas etc etc that we have in London... They're NOT teenagers. For god's sake.

 

We have serious crime here. Just so you know. The reason London is more likely than Melbourne to ever happen in GTA is BECAUSE it already exists. It's a city they obviously hold in high enough regard to make a game out of. I don't remember a top down Melbourne... wink.gif

Signatures are dumb anyway.

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I wanted to bring this up for discussion because I live in Melbourne and from what I've seen, this city and it's surrounds can be quite violent.

 

The most outstanding piece of evidence to show this is the gangland killings, 34 major crime figures killed in the space of eight years with some of their "thugs" shot, stabbed or bashed in the same period.

 

People outside Australia may not know some of these names, but for Australians, they were/are major figures. The following people could provide a base for Rockstar to create some amazing characters.

 

Victor Brincat

  • Carried out over forty armed robberies.
  • Shot career criminal Jason Moran in front of over twenty children at a youth football clinic.
  • Shot drug dealer Michael Marshall with a shotgun at daylight in the middle of a street, in front of Marshall's young son.
Andrew "Benji" Veniamin
  • Involved in drive-by shootings and various road-rage incidents.
  • Assosciate of drug dealer Dino Dibra before being paid to kill him.
  • Shot Dino Dibra at least six times, including at least three shots after Dibra was already dead.
  • A suspect in the murders of other career criminals Victor Peirce, Frank Benvenuto, Nik Radev and Paul Kallipolitis.
Carl Williams
  • Worked with the Moran family before breaking off and leading his own gang.
  • Shot in the stomach by Jason Moran after the Morans discovered he was working against them.
  • Connected with at least ten killings.
  • Killed Mark Moran with a shotgun at close range.
Jason and Mark Moran
  • Jason carried a gun from the time he was a teen until his death.
  • Jason was involved in a road rage incident in which when cut off by another motorist, used a wheel brace to smash the other driver's windscreen and then beat him severely.
  • Jason was Alphonse "The Black Prince" Gangitano's right hand man until the two had a falling out.
  • Jason murdered Gangitano in his home with a handgun. Gangitano was found by his wife in the laundry. He had been shot numerous times in the face.
  • Mark was involved in the bashing murder of an assosciate after the man had made a remark about a female remark of Mark and Jason's.
You think of the United States as the gang capital of the world, but Australia, especially Melbourne has some bad stuff. Although the men listed above are members of the organized crime families of Melbourne, there are so many different groups, it proves multiculturism is not such a great idea. Vietnamese, Sudanese, Aussies, Lebanese, Tongans, Samoans, Kiwis, Italians, Irish and the rest.

no it will never happen at all next gta is gonna be somthing like miami some country that is well known

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OK, I see your point, but you've just failed to acknowledge mine.

 

I was trying to get my own point across and didn't make much of yours, sorry.

 

 

The Yardies, Russians, Triads, Nigerians, Rastas etc etc that we have in London... They're NOT teenagers. For god's sake.

 

I can understand that, but all of the above have been covered in previous GTA games. Yardies in GTA III, Russians in GTA IV, Triads in all 3D GTAs, Nigerians I'm not too sure about and Rastas in GTA IV (Little Jacob).

 

 

We have serious crime here. Just so you know. The reason London is more likely than Melbourne to ever happen in GTA is BECAUSE it already exists. It's a city they obviously hold in high enough regard to make a game out of. I don't remember a top down Melbourne...

 

There is part of my point in your own post. There hasn't been a top-down Melbourne. I'm sure lots of people would love to see something COMPLETELY NEW.

 

 

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I'm sure lots of people would love to see something COMPLETELY NEW.

I beg to differ. From what I've seen in the last month, it would seem that people just want a prettier version of San Andreas.

Signatures are dumb anyway.

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Plus, and this is the key, why would R* want to make a game about the only country in the world that chooses to censor them?

 

 

 

I pity your ignorance. You're negating Germany, the UAE and dozens of other countries. One or two elements censored from the AU release of any given GTA game is far from deal breaking. Besides that, you're grabbing at semantics because regardless of censorship Australia would be ideal for a GTA game. I can't see how the censorship status of GTA would make a difference in the slightest. It's just a pity so many foreigners such as yourself are down right ignorant of the outside world.

 

Mate get a reality check; The UK is boring, condensed, droopy and full of nothing. Nobody gives a sh*t about it because GTA London and The Getaway both sucked. Face it.....London is a sh*t city to set a game in.

 

If you're going to embarrass yourself by retorting with kangaroo and desert jokes then think before you press SUBMIT POST because you're only going to prove your ignorance even further.

 

End of discussion Pom.

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I beg to differ. From what I've seen in the last month, it would seem that people just want a prettier version of San Andreas.

 

I think Rockstar is growing with it's audience. That's why I believe they created the more "realistic" GTA IV. I've seen varied responses from people. They want it kept in Liberty City, they want to go back to the stupidly unrealistic San Andreas, they want something new. Lots of people fall into each category.

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,May 29 2008, 11:01] Bah no not Australia.

 

 

Manchester FTW

Manchester? Why?

MANCHESTER! LOL. I've been to Manchester, and there's nothing scary about it. It would remind me too much of Getaway.

 

 

Melbourne is such a good place to have a new GTA. I think the ignorance towards the city (and country for that matter) is too big.

P.S. Don't bring up that Kangaroo, koala sh*t please. That steriotype sh*t is just f*cked up.

Something tells me you haven't been through Mosside. If you had been, you probably wouldn't come out alive it's that bad. It's full of immagrents, people walk around with guns and knifes, there are stabbings there weekly. Also there are quite a few landmarks there...

 

The huge spiky ball for instance:

 

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Or the Manchester United Football Arena:

 

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GTA: Melbourne?, Is it possible?

NO THANKS suicidal.gif

And what exactly would be wrong with it?

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GTA: Melbourne?, Is it possible?

NO THANKS suicidal.gif

And you think a boring, condensed, droppy deluded sh*t hole like London is any better? Reality check please. There's a reason thousands of Brits migrate to Australia each year.

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NO THANKS

 

Do you think you could even provide an argument for your statement or just posting something? BTW, is your caps lock key jammed?

 

 

Something tells me you haven't been through Mosside. If you had been, you probably wouldn't come out alive it's that bad. It's full of immagrents, people walk around with guns and knifes, there are stabbings there weekly. Also there are quite a few landmarks there...

 

Sorry, never heard of Mosside. I've also never heard of that spiky ball, though I have heard of the football arena.

 

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GTA: Melbourne?, Is it possible?

NO THANKS suicidal.gif

And you think a boring, condensed, droppy deluded sh*t hole like London is any better? Reality check please. There's a reason thousands of Brits migrate to Australia each year.

I don't remember saying I wanted it in London. That's what The Getaway is for.

 

They should stick with the US of A.... And luckily they will biggrin.gif

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