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Why does GTAIV involve debt or loaning?


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I love this game, and don't get me wrong it's definately one of the best out there, but why does almost every mission involve killing a person in debt or getting money for someone? Discuss your opinions and please don't flame me, it's my first day here so forgive me if this has been posted

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No I know how Niko needs money, but when you do missions for other people, they always want you to get rid of someone because of debt, or they want you to go get them money from someone, btw I'm talking about the majority of the missions, I know not all of them are like this, I'm on mission #60 so I'm not judging early on

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because you work for loansharks a lot, loansharking is one of the main money making activities for most criminal organizations. most murders in the criminal underworld are because of money/drugs, not jet packs or grove street.

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AntiPersonnel

maybe they are trying to make social commentary on the state of american economy

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because you work for loansharks a lot, loansharking is one of the main money making activities for most criminal organizations. most murders in the criminal underworld are because of money/drugs, not jet packs or grove street.

cookie.gif good answer, I didn't look at it that way

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Simple, because all immigrants to the US are criminals. At least since about 1920 anyway.

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Simple, because all immigrants to the US are criminals. At least since about 1920 anyway.

I'm an immigrant - legal and law-abiding. We don't have a lot of money, but we aren't exactly struggling to feed ourselves, either. We have perfect credit, too - if that matters. I speak 2 languages, understand 3 more, am working on being fluent in a third language, make better grades than you make/made, have better prospects for my future than your entire family has had since the aforementioned year, have visited more countries, look better, have a better girlfriend, more friends, and I'm better than you at GTA IV. I'm also not fat and I don't like fast food.

 

I f*cking hate stereotypes.

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Simple, because all immigrants to the US are criminals.  At least since about 1920 anyway.

I'm an immigrant - legal and law-abiding. We don't have a lot of money, but we aren't exactly struggling to feed ourselves, either. We have perfect credit, too - if that matters. I speak 2 languages, understand 3 more, am working on being fluent in a third language, make better grades than you make/made, have better prospects for my future than your entire family has had since the aforementioned year, have visited more countries, look better, have a better girlfriend, more friends, and I'm better than you at GTA IV. I'm also not fat and I don't like fast food.

 

I f*cking hate stereotypes.

So... you hate stereotypes and then go on to stereotype legal US citizens? So you are a hypocrite then?

 

Take a f*cking joke and relax, chico.

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Simple, because all immigrants to the US are criminals.  At least since about 1920 anyway.

I'm an immigrant - legal and law-abiding. We don't have a lot of money, but we aren't exactly struggling to feed ourselves, either. We have perfect credit, too - if that matters. I speak 2 languages, understand 3 more, am working on being fluent in a third language, make better grades than you make/made, have better prospects for my future than your entire family has had since the aforementioned year, have visited more countries, look better, have a better girlfriend, more friends, and I'm better than you at GTA IV. I'm also not fat and I don't like fast food.

 

I f*cking hate stereotypes.

So... you hate stereotypes and then go on to stereotype legal US citizens? So you are a hypocrite then?

 

Take a f*cking joke and relax, chico.

Who says I'm not a legal US citizen? smile.gif

 

If I said that all native-born Americans don't know what sarcasm is, would you understand the irony if immediately afterwards I said I don't like stereotypes?

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Who says I'm not a legal US citizen? smile.gif

 

If I said that all native-born Americans don't know what sarcasm is, would you understand the irony if immediately afterwards I said I don't like stereotypes?

I don't know... who said you werent? A bit defensive?

 

Irony doesn't make you any less a hypocrite. It just makes your hypocrisy ironic.

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Who says I'm not a legal US citizen? smile.gif

 

If I said that all native-born Americans don't know what sarcasm is, would you understand the irony if immediately afterwards I said I don't like stereotypes?

I don't know... who said you werent? A bit defensive?

 

Irony doesn't make you any less a hypocrite. It just makes your hypocrisy ironic.

But ironic hypocrisy tends to be the most entertaining. Dennis Miller made a fortune off of this.

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Who says I'm not a legal US citizen? smile.gif

 

If I said that all native-born Americans don't know what sarcasm is, would you understand the irony if immediately afterwards I said I don't like stereotypes?

I don't know... who said you werent? A bit defensive?

 

Irony doesn't make you any less a hypocrite. It just makes your hypocrisy ironic.

But ironic hypocrisy tends to be the most entertaining. Dennis Miller made a fortune off of this.

A good point... but anyone watching Dennis Miller for than a few minutes quickly develops the urge to assassinate him.

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Back on topic, and to the both of you, I'm pretty sure none of you meant any offense, keep it cool smile.gif

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Who says I'm not a legal US citizen? smile.gif

 

If I said that all native-born Americans don't know what sarcasm is, would you understand the irony if immediately afterwards I said I don't like stereotypes?

I don't know... who said you werent? A bit defensive?

 

Irony doesn't make you any less a hypocrite. It just makes your hypocrisy ironic.

But ironic hypocrisy tends to be the most entertaining. Dennis Miller made a fortune off of this.

A good point... but anyone watching Dennis Miller for than a few minutes quickly develops the urge to assassinate him.

Odd that you mention it, as I get the same feeling being forced to endure George Carlin's routine.

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because you work for loansharks a lot, loansharking is one of the main money making activities for most criminal organizations. most murders in the criminal underworld are because of money/drugs, not jet packs or grove street.

Actually gangbangin(grove street) do cause murders

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Back on topic, and to the both of you, I'm pretty sure none of you meant any offense, keep it cool smile.gif

You're wrong. blush.gif

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Umm... maybe because it wouldn't make sense killing a person not in debt? that's just bad business and would make the missions even less believable.

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because you work for loansharks a lot, loansharking is one of the main money making activities for most criminal organizations. most murders in the criminal underworld are because of money/drugs, not jet packs or grove street.

Actually gangbangin(grove street) do cause murders

i f*ckng know that!

 

but GTA IV is more about organized crime than gangbanging

 

the murders are motivated by money from rackets not about neighbourhood and colours

 

although i bet most gang killings are more related to drug turf ie. to make money

 

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I loved those missions where you do somethin like "sneaky" Final Interview for example the way you pretend you want a job and then you go and kill the lawyer dude

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Simple, because all immigrants to the US are criminals.  At least since about 1920 anyway.

I'm an immigrant - legal and law-abiding. We don't have a lot of money, but we aren't exactly struggling to feed ourselves, either. We have perfect credit, too - if that matters. I speak 2 languages, understand 3 more, am working on being fluent in a third language, make better grades than you make/made, have better prospects for my future than your entire family has had since the aforementioned year, have visited more countries, look better, have a better girlfriend, more friends, and I'm better than you at GTA IV. I'm also not fat and I don't like fast food.

 

I f*cking hate stereotypes.

Sit down Belgie and play your games-playing movie machine.

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illadelph0808
I loved those missions where you do somethin like "sneaky" Final Interview for example the way you pretend you want a job and then you go and kill the lawyer dude

yeah i like those type of missions. but it kinda pissed me off when you were sent to kill someone and as soon as you get there, niko gets up in their face, i want to put one in the back of their head and sneak away! sneaky2.gifsuicidal.gif

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yea, too bad they didn't have mroe of it, I wanted more interactive missions like in SA you used that cement truck to put the guy in the go can in the hole and cover it with cement just an example, I loved doing interactive missions instead of just killing people, you get me?

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LAUGH_INSURANCE
what do Jew's have to do with this lol

The other day at Helitours, I started a fight with a jew and he started punching back and I kicked him and he fell off the giant helipad and fell in the sea.

 

I've also seen a man walking about with a sausepan on his head.

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Lol, yea hobo's wear home appliances for some reason, but how'd you know the guy you fought was Jewish, I can't even tell the Chinese people in the game lol

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LAUGH_INSURANCE

 

Lol, yea hobo's wear home appliances for some reason, but how'd you know the guy you fought was Jewish, I can't even tell the Chinese people in the game lol

You can see his jewish hat. He has a large beard and a big black gown.

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O, I think I killed one once, he said some weird Hebrew stuff, then I killed him devil.gif

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